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miss.a.p1600
10-06-2020, 04:28 PM
I agree. The first time I contracted the flu I ended up in the ER- I was in no way prepared for how hard it was on my body.

Unfortunately Trump holds himself to some strange and somewhat toxic masculine ideals so he'd rather suffer in public than pay attention to his health. Let him do his thing. It's morbidly interesting, from a scientific standpoint.

Suffering or Theatrics?

Will we ever know the actual truth?

Eric Stoner
10-07-2020, 08:07 AM
He clearly said disinfectant, as in disinfectant used to clean houses. It's on video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33QdTOyXz3w

Your view of Trump seems to be based on this imaginary figure, who is a normal person with a normal person's intelligence; rather than the stupid, ignorant, racist narcissistic sociopath that he actually is. You assume he didn't actually suggest injecting disinfectant because you refuse to believe he's stupid and ignorant. As long as you're unable to see this, it is pointless to try and discuss anything related to Trump with you.

He was clearly discussing medical POSSIBILITIES and clearly said that the doctors would have the last word. There ARE UV light treatments ; there ARE disinfecting substances that are used medically to treat lots of things. What do you think our little puppies and kittens are given to kill worms ? It is a POISON designed to kill the worms without harming the pet. Did you SEE the parts where Trump continually turned his head and addressed Dr. Birx while discussing various possible treatments that should be looked at , explored , discussed ? Not one time did he suggest that anyone ingest anything that was unproven or do so other than under medical supervision.
I'm sorry but I think you need a serious case of TDS to look at the tape and then say : "Trump is telling us to swig Mr. Clean ".

Do you even know the differences among disinfectants , antiseptics and antibiotics ? Disinfectants KILL germs or other other microbes. Some, repeat SOME can and are taken internally in controlled doses to kill things like dysentery causing amoebae. Antibiotics do NOT kill anything. They inhibit bacterial reproduction to get the levels down to where the body's own immune system can handle the infection load as the bacteria cells die off.
It's similar for most anti-viral drugs. They prevent the virus from entering and taking over cells and thus the virus cannot reproduce itself.

Eric Stoner
10-07-2020, 08:33 AM
This issue isn't having different views. It's being respectful to other members of the forum.

You are much better now but there were times IN THE PAST where your intellectual intolerance of ideas and facts that you disagreed with and/or didn't like caused YOU to be disrespectful. To put it mildly. I lost count of how many times you called me and others " ignorant , intolerant" and all sorts of other nice things when all we did was disagree with you. Or point out flaws in your reasoning ; or incomplete information ; or just have a different way of looking at things..
And there have been several times where I quietly ( only to myself , NOT in a post ) had questions concerning your reading comprehension. I've concluded that like most people ( including ME ) that you just try and ignore facts that don't fit your argument. It gets a little challenging when those facts are contained in YOUR posts but whatever. Your link to Trump's Press Conference is a perfect example. You claim it proves he advocated ingestion of disinfectant. He NEVER said that. He clearly was discussing areas he thought were worth scientific and medical exploration and continually checked with Dr. Birx who was seated right next to him.

I have continually tried to attack ideas and NOT those who hold them. And I've encouraged others to do likewise. And I've tried not to take disagreement personally. If we all try to do the same then there would be no need to call each other out for disrespect or any other rule violation.

As for Rick, he has his own style. I think a LOT of the ill will towards him has to do with some politically incorrect soul searching war stories he shared in another forum. Some people reacted like he somehow behaved like Jeffrey Epstein because he supposedly met several dancers OTC ( GASP ! The Dog ! ).
That alone rubbed several members of this board the wrong way. If it is really all that terrible, why not just delete the offending posts ? Why this campaign to try and ban him simply because some don't like his ideas ?

Raziel
10-07-2020, 08:43 AM
I met one Dancer OTC. She had a toothache, so I brought her some Vicodin. Wasn't a date. Just wanted her to not be in pain. It was quick.

Djoser
10-07-2020, 10:13 AM
He was clearly discussing medical POSSIBILITIES...

Why then did he claim he was 'just being sarcastic' the very next day?

He wants his cake and to eat it. Not possible, especially in the case of a worldwide epidemic.

Djoser
10-07-2020, 10:20 AM
You had better believe that he's going to milk this for all it's worth, using it as an inspirational story about not letting COVID prevent people from living.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

That's his way for sure. I still think it's going to backfire on him though.

Eric Stoner
10-07-2020, 10:28 AM
Why then did he claim he was 'just being sarcastic' the very next day?

He wants his cake and to eat it. Not possible, especially in the case of a worldwide epidemic.

The short answer ( and it is a MAJOR flaw with Trump ) is that he can NEVER admit a mistake. He sees it as a sign of weakness. The irony is that he was not mistaken.
In this case all he had to do was EXPLAIN what he was talking about. He was NOT being sarcastic and everyone knows it.
I have repeatedly said that I do not like Trump. I don't think he is a particularly good person. But that's irrelevant. Until Covid he was a successful President whose policies were working and helping the country.

Raziel
10-07-2020, 12:28 PM
How can you possibly say that his policies were helping this country. We HATE each other now!!!

I gotta say, between the two of them, I didn't like Hillary, either, but this guy takes the cake. I'm fucking exhausted with him.

eagle2
10-07-2020, 12:55 PM
I have repeatedly said that I do not like Trump. I don't think he is a particularly good person. But that's irrelevant. Until Covid he was a successful President whose policies were working and helping the country.

No they weren't. He just happened to take office during an economic expansion, that continued after he took office. His tax cuts led to massive increases in the deficit, while at the same time, gdp growth declined. Under Obama, we had multiple quarters of gdp growth > 4%, and one quarter where it reached 5%. Under Trump, gdp growth never exceeded 4%. Under Obama, manufacturing grew every year for his last 6 or 7 years. Under Trump, manufacturing went into recession his third year.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-industrial-production-slumps-in-second-quarter-2019-07-16

The trade wars Trump started, that he said were "easy to win", resulted in our trade deficit reaching a 14 year high.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-global-trade-north-america-china-united-states-c6d5a4d935d8d3bca966d2395deee68d


The only reason the economy did well during Trump's first 3 years is because he started out with an unemployment rate of 4.5% and a growing economy. The economy wasn't doing poorly, but there was nothing extraordinary about his economic figures. Economic trends were about the same as they were before he took office. There were fewer jobs created during Trump's 1st three years than during Obama's last 3 years.

Raziel
10-07-2020, 01:29 PM
BTW, i didn't hate Hillary because she's a Woman. I didn't like her because she had twenty-five years of political baggage. Most of it not too good.

lynn2009
10-07-2020, 03:56 PM
I love Hillary Clinton. I think she lost because she was too good for us.

jack0177057
10-07-2020, 04:27 PM
I love Hillary Clinton. I think she lost because she was too good for us.

She is a smart lady and would have probably made a great president, but, toward the end of her campaign, she was acting like a cocky rock star while Trump was acting (and I emphasize the word "acting") like a simple man (no major stars at his events, because, they wanted nothing to do with him) who was genuinely concerned with the plight of the uneducated laid off white people in the rust belt.

I think the poor uneducated racist white people in this country freaked out that we had a black president and they felt threatened of losing their white privilege. So, when Obama left office, the pendulum had to swing the other way to put in the white house a right-wing white racist

I'm not saying that everyone that voted for Trump was poor uneducated white racist. 40% of people in this country are staunch Republicans and will vote the Republican ticket no matter what. Gun-rights and pro-life people will vote for satan himself before voting for Hillary Clinton.

lynn2009
10-07-2020, 04:32 PM
She is a smart lady and would have probably made a great president, but, toward the end of her campaign, she was acting like a cocky rock star while Trump was acting (and I emphasize the word "acting") like a simple man (no major stars at his events, because, they wanted nothing to do with him) who was genuinely concerned with the plight of the uneducated laid off white people in the rust belt.

I think that's fair.

jack0177057
10-07-2020, 04:40 PM
Oops. Duplicate post.

jack0177057
10-07-2020, 05:21 PM
I don't think he is a particularly good person. But that's irrelevant. Until Covid he was a successful President whose policies were working and helping the country.

As a former moderate Republican, I might agree with some of his economic policies. However, I disagree that his character is irrelevant.

We are not talking about adultery which is immoral, but, only affects him and his family. We are talking about a man that fuels racism and emboldens white supremacy groups across this nation; a man that has 0% empathy for non-whites. If anyone resents the diversity that exists in this country, they should move to Iceland, which is at least 96% white. The U.S. is diverse and multi-racial and that is not changing any time soon. The best thing a President can do on race issues in this nation is try to unite, rather than divide.

We are also talking about a man whose narcissism and arrogance has made him (and the entire U.S. by extension) the laughing stock of European countries.

He trust our enemies more than our allies, because, our enemies know how to pull the strings with just some flattery.

He is supposed to be the embodiment of ultra masculinity, but, he is really just a little bitch (using this word in a non-gender-specific way) desperately in need of flattery and validation.

Raziel
10-07-2020, 05:35 PM
I love Hillary Clinton. I think she lost because she was too good for us.

I don't hate her. But I don't like her, either. She'd been through shit since the early '90's, some of it brought on by her Husband (who couldn't keep his fucking dick in his pants). By and large I don't mind her, and I'd WAY rather have her than the Monster we currently have in the White House. I voted for her, after all. And I don't normally tell you whom I voted for. I just wish there had been a viable third option.

Raziel
10-07-2020, 05:42 PM
As a former moderate Republican, I might agree with some of his economic policies. However, I disagree that his character is irrelevant.

We are not talking about adultery which is immoral, but, only affects him and his family. We are talking about a man that fuels racism and emboldens white supremacy groups across this nation; a man that has 0% empathy for non-whites. If anyone resents the diversity that exists in this country, they should move to Iceland, which is at least 96% white. The U.S. is diverse and multi-racial and that is not changing any time soon. The best thing a President can do on race issues in this nation is try to unite, rather than divide.

We are also talking about a man whose narcissism and arrogance has made him (and the entire U.S. by extension) the laughing stock of European countries.

He trust our enemies more than our allies, because, our enemies know how to pull the strings with just some flattery.

He is supposed to be the embodiment of ultra masculinity, but, he is really just a little bitch (using this word in a non-gender-specific way) desperately in need of flattery and validation.

You can't read me, but that's about right.

miss.a.p1600
10-07-2020, 06:14 PM
I don't hate her. But I don't like her, either. She'd been through shit since the early '90's, some of it brought on by her Husband (who couldn't keep his fucking dick in his pants). By and large I don't mind her, and I'd WAY rather have her than the Monster we currently have in the White House. I voted for her, after all. And I don't normally tell you whom I voted for. I just wish there had been a viable third option.

I hope this doesn't sound too callous, just my opinion..............

She's a smart woman

80% of the time that comes with the territory when marrying men with high wealth n status.

If she went through shit because of that.....that is kind of what she signed up for.

miss.a.p1600
10-07-2020, 08:41 PM
Trump says Covid was a blessing in disguise

https://www.ibtimes.com/twitter-reacts-donald-trump-calling-covid-19-diagnosis-blessing-disguise-how-dare-you-3058456

Twitter has mixed reactions

eagle2
10-07-2020, 09:35 PM
As if Trump wasn't bad enough already... we now have Donald Trump on steroids.

miss.a.p1600
10-07-2020, 09:43 PM
People who foolishly took L's for Donald Trump n caught covid

Herman Cain (RIP)
Melania
Kellyanne Conway
McEnany
and more

Add Stephen Miller

Raziel
10-07-2020, 09:54 PM
I hope this doesn't sound too callous, just my opinion..............

She's a smart woman

80% of the time that comes with the territory when marrying men with high wealth n status.

If she went through shit because of that.....that is kind of what she signed up for.

Maybe, but I wouldn't do it. I have no need to sink my Penis into strange flesh. I am a faithful Man. I'd NEVER cheat on my girl.

And I never said she wasn't smart. Just that she was a hated figure due to her husband, that Bengasi nonsense (Though i don't know why she catches that crap), and that STUPID Monica Lewinsky shit her Husband put her through in the '90's. That shit is HIS fault, not hers. People act like SHE'S the one fucking that girl!

THAT's why I didn't like her. Well, maybe i shouldn't say i didn't like her. I just thought Trump could WIN against her. And that scared me. And i was right.

miss.a.p1600
10-07-2020, 10:32 PM
^loyalty is a great quality to have

Trump not isolating himself as required by cdc https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-returns-to-oval-office-while-sick-contagious-with-covid-19-2020-10

kimbe
10-08-2020, 12:49 AM
^Why am I not surprised...

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 07:51 AM
How can you possibly say that his policies were helping this country. We HATE each other now!!!

I gotta say, between the two of them, I didn't like Hillary, either, but this guy takes the cake. I'm fucking exhausted with him.

Then don't vote for him. Cast a vote for senility.

SnuffleUffleGrass
10-08-2020, 07:53 AM
As if Trump wasn't bad enough already... we now have Donald Trump on steroids.


:frown: *shudders*

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 07:53 AM
No they weren't. He just happened to take office during an economic expansion, that continued after he took office. His tax cuts led to massive increases in the deficit, while at the same time, gdp growth declined. Under Obama, we had multiple quarters of gdp growth > 4%, and one quarter where it reached 5%. Under Trump, gdp growth never exceeded 4%. Under Obama, manufacturing grew every year for his last 6 or 7 years. Under Trump, manufacturing went into recession his third year.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-industrial-production-slumps-in-second-quarter-2019-07-16

The trade wars Trump started, that he said were "easy to win", resulted in our trade deficit reaching a 14 year high.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-global-trade-north-america-china-united-states-c6d5a4d935d8d3bca966d2395deee68d


The only reason the economy did well during Trump's first 3 years is because he started out with an unemployment rate of 4.5% and a growing economy. The economy wasn't doing poorly, but there was nothing extraordinary about his economic figures. Economic trends were about the same as they were before he took office. There were fewer jobs created during Trump's 1st three years than during Obama's last 3 years.

This is stale. We have argued this issue back and forth for months. You have your opinion based on the facts you like and I have mine. Wishing well.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 07:56 AM
I love Hillary Clinton. I think she lost because she was too good for us.

She lost because too many people in crucial states did not like her or trust her. For me, it was her phony laugh, her shrill voice (and manner) not to mention her hideous taste in clothes. I'm being half serious .

SnuffleUffleGrass
10-08-2020, 08:02 AM
She lost because too many people in crucial states did not like her or trust her. For me, it was her phony laugh, her shrill voice (and manner) not to mention her hideous taste in clothes. I'm being half serious .


Her and Bill were loathed by a very vocal and hateful number of people in government and media.

Some of this was during the infancy of Internet news, so people didn't fly their anti-Clinton flags high unless in sympathetic company. But yeah, the baggage from her time in the White House was an albatross for her. Which is too bad. I would have taken 4 years of another Clinton in the White House versus this botch up we've been living with for the past few years.

lynn2009
10-08-2020, 08:09 AM
For me, it was her phony laugh, her shrill voice (and manner) not to mention her hideous taste in clothes. I'm being half serious .

Laugh, "shrill" voice, taste in clothes...never hear anyone mention these things regarding male politicians do we.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 08:09 AM
As a former moderate Republican, I might agree with some of his economic policies. However, I disagree that his character is irrelevant.

We are not talking about adultery which is immoral, but, only affects him and his family. We are talking about a man that fuels racism and emboldens white supremacy groups across this nation; a man that has 0% empathy for non-whites. If anyone resents the diversity that exists in this country, they should move to Iceland, which is at least 96% white. The U.S. is diverse and multi-racial and that is not changing any time soon. The best thing a President can do on race issues in this nation is try to unite, rather than divide.

We are also talking about a man whose narcissism and arrogance has made him (and the entire U.S. by extension) the laughing stock of European countries.

He trust our enemies more than our allies, because, our enemies know how to pull the strings with just some flattery.

He is supposed to be the embodiment of ultra masculinity, but, he is really just a little bitch (using this word in a non-gender-specific way) desperately in need of flattery and validation.

I actually agree with one or two of your points about Trump. He is a narcissist and he is arrogant. He has been on a life long search for adulation and validation.
That being said , the race based accusations against him are unfair and not based on facts. He HAS condemned white supremacist groups. Repeatedly. As recently as his last debate with Biden. When he said there were "good people on both sides " he was talking about the debate over removal of Confederate statues. I think his position was wrong but not necessarily racist. Just foolish and insensitive.
He did more to support HBCU's than Obama ever did. He has promoted school choice; the prime beneficiaries of which are minority children. Under Trump , black unemployment hit record lows .
Bush the Dumber was called racist too. Yet he did more to conquer AIDS in Africa than Clinton ever did.
Reagan was called racist. In his case it was mostly ignorance. The man never had a single black friend.
Nixon was definitely racist yet he promoted Affirmative Action, school busing and the Fair Housing Act .
Johnson used the N-word all the time yet pushed through the Civil Rights Act and Voting
Rights Act.

Obama and Biden had eight ( 8 ! ) years it make our society more "just" and address "white privilege". They never lifted a finger.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 08:14 AM
Laugh, "shrill" voice, taste in clothes...never hear anyone mention these things regarding male politicians do we.

Joe Biden is a snappy dresser. Whoever picks out his clothes is doing a fine job.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 08:17 AM
Her and Bill were loathed by a very vocal and hateful number of people in government and media.

Some of this was during the infancy of Internet news, so people didn't fly their anti-Clinton flags high unless in sympathetic company. But yeah, the baggage from her time in the White House was an albatross for her. Which is too bad. I would have taken 4 years of another Clinton in the White House versus this botch up we've been living with for the past few years.

I never loathed Bill. Didn't like his behavior. Never trusted him but I sorta liked his style and his economic policies ( on balance ) were pretty good.
Hillary I never liked. A fake , phony and fraud from the get go imo. On top of everything else, she had a lousy sense of humor. So does Trump btw.

SnuffleUffleGrass
10-08-2020, 08:21 AM
I never loathed Bill. Didn't like his behavior. Never trusted him but I sorta liked his style and his economic policies ( on balance ) were pretty good.
Hillary I never liked. A fake , phony and fraud from the get go imo. On top of everything else, she had a lousy sense of humor. So does Trump btw.

Well it's pointless to dwell on their personalities....politicians get elected to do a job (lead and represent.) Bill (and Hillary) were weird but so what? That's not a crime.

I'm dreaming of the day where I don't have to be horrified by what is coming out of the President's mouth. Trump has really hurt the public image of Americans in general, trust me.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 08:52 AM
Well it's pointless to dwell on their personalities....politicians get elected to do a job (lead and represent.) Bill (and Hillary) were weird but so what? That's not a crime.

I'm dreaming of the day where I don't have to be horrified by what is coming out of the President's mouth. Trump has really hurt the public image of Americans in general, trust me.

Is it better for this country to be loved or feared ? I don't care if other countries like us or Trump. It is good if they fear us. And respect us.

Obama tried to get everyone to love us and it didn't work.

Djoser
10-08-2020, 08:59 AM
It is good if they fear us. And respect us.

Well right now the entire world is laughing at Trump.

And the US for actually electing him.

kamiliam
10-08-2020, 09:17 AM
We are not feared. Our military spending which will still exist with Biden is what they consider.

eagle2
10-08-2020, 10:26 AM
Is it better for this country to be loved or feared ? I don't care if other countries like us or Trump. It is good if they fear us. And respect us.

Obama tried to get everyone to love us and it didn't work.

We're not respected or feared by other countries. We're pitied.

Trump is an international joke. World leaders have literally laughed at him.

Your view of Trump is based on an imaginary person who is not an ignorant moron, like the real Trump is. That's why you refuse to believe he seriously suggested injecting disinfectant to cure covid.

eagle2
10-08-2020, 10:26 AM
Well right now the entire world is laughing at Trump.

And the US for actually electing him.

Especially Putin and Kim Jong-Un.

eagle2
10-08-2020, 10:38 AM
She lost because too many people in crucial states did not like her or trust her. For me, it was her phony laugh, her shrill voice (and manner) not to mention her hideous taste in clothes. I'm being half serious .

She lost because Russia illegally hacked her emails and had them posted on Wikileaks, and because James Comey defied DOJ rules and announced she was being investigated 2 weeks before the election.

You find her laugh and her voice worse than the video of Trump bragging about grabbing women by the pussy without even asking them? Something multiple women have accused Trump of doing to them.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 11:24 AM
Well right now the entire world is laughing at Trump.

And the US for actually electing him.

Israel isn't. Neither is the U.K. Neither are Taiwan, The Philippines , Thailand , Vietnam , Australia , South Korea and other countries threatened by China.
Cuba isn't or if they are it is to keep from crying. Ditto for Maduro in Venezuela. The UAE , Bahrain and most of the Middle East are not laughing. They are grateful. Except for the Iranians and Syrians of course.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 11:26 AM
We are not feared. Our military spending which will still exist with Biden is what they consider.

You wanna bet ? Our enemies are drooling at the thought of having a senile , gutless pushover like Biden in the Oval Office. With his successor hating this country more than they do.

SnuffleUffleGrass
10-08-2020, 11:27 AM
Is it better for this country to be loved or feared ? I don't care if other countries like us or Trump. It is good if they fear us. And respect us.

Obama tried to get everyone to love us and it didn't work.

I don't want to threadjack but Obama just did his job and dealt with the aftermath of G W Bush going to war with Iraq. Not a tiny feat.

Even lifelong Republicans want to get back to where the most scandalous news day for an Presidential Administration is the wearing of a tan suit. Any given voter could admit to feeling a lot of fatigue and irritation with the past 4 years.


On that note....VOTE!!!!!!!! Seriously. Get out there and be heard.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 11:29 AM
I don't know where you folks are getting your info about how the rest of the world sees Trump and the U.S. ? The Washedup Post ? The New York Slimes ? Their foreign counterparts ? If that is all you read and listen to then it is understandable that you think as you do. If you actually TALK to and LISTEN to people in other countries then you would probably get a much different view.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 11:31 AM
She lost because Russia illegally hacked her emails and had them posted on Wikileaks, and because James Comey defied DOJ rules and announced she was being investigated 2 weeks before the election.

You find her laugh and her voice worse than the video of Trump bragging about grabbing women by the pussy without even asking them? Something multiple women have accused Trump of doing to them.

Where are her e-mails ? She ILLEGALLY erased them after having them on an illegal unauthorized server.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 11:37 AM
We're not respected or feared by other countries. We're pitied.

Trump is an international joke. World leaders have literally laughed at him.

Your view of Trump is based on an imaginary person who is not an ignorant moron, like the real Trump is. That's why you refuse to believe he seriously suggested injecting disinfectant to cure covid.

I watched and LISTENED to Trump speaking that YOU helpfully posted. Now you say he suggested " injecting disinfectant ". First of all that is NOT what he said but even if he did it is NOT as off the wall as you would like people to believe. Not unless you want to pull a number of successful treatments as I have previously discussed and explained. A disinfectant kills microbes. There are such substances in medicine. Some are drunk in liquid form. Some are injected.
Some are given in enemas. Some go in IV's , depending on the disease or condition.

eagle2
10-08-2020, 11:57 AM
Where are her e-mails ? She ILLEGALLY erased them after having them on an illegal unauthorized server.

She didn't "ILLEGALLY" erase any emails or have them on an "illegal unauthorized server". At worst, she inadvertently placed several classified emails on a private server. One of them was in regard to a banquet for the leader of an African country.

Do you know what IS illegal? Breaking into someone's private email account is illegal. Seeking help from a foreign government in a political campaign. Trump publicly asked Russia to illegally break into Hillary Clinton's email account, which they did, shortly after Trump asked them to do it.

Raziel
10-08-2020, 12:02 PM
Not fighting, but Donald Trump uses a private server for emails.

Eric Stoner
10-08-2020, 12:02 PM
She lost because Russia illegally hacked her emails and had them posted on Wikileaks, and because James Comey defied DOJ rules and announced she was being investigated 2 weeks before the election.

You find her laugh and her voice worse than the video of Trump bragging about grabbing women by the pussy without even asking them? Something multiple women have accused Trump of doing to them.

Actually I think it is only one (1) woman who has accused Trump of an actual sexual assault. And she's suing him for libel because he called her a liar.
Trump was obviously speaking figuratively.
Btw, there is a Laundry List of women who accused Bill of sexual assault. You do believe them don't you ? What about Biden's accuser ? Tara Reid ?
Biden's the one who likes to cuddle with children other than his own ( it's ON TAPE ! ) and sniff their hair ( again, ON TAPE ! ). Or are you arguing for a double standard ? i.e. accuse a conservative (like Clarence Thomas , Brett Kavanaugh , Trump , any male college student ) and you are automatically entitled to credibility ; accuse a liberal like Biden or Clinton then you are lying ; or mentally ill ; or a political pawn or just a goldigger ?

Raziel
10-08-2020, 12:05 PM
Trump publicly asked Russia to illegally break into Hillary Clinton's email account, which they did, shortly after Trump asked them to do it.

Yeah, he did it in a goddamned SPEECH. WTF is this guy thinking? At the very LEAST keep that shit to yourself. Use your head! Vladimir Putin probably shook his head at that.