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Eric Stoner
11-24-2020, 01:19 PM
There's also no comparison between Obama and Trump. Obama wasn't making racist comments on a regular basis, and inciting violence against certain people because of their ethnicity or race. He didn't have thousands of children forcibly removed from their parents and thrown in cold, overcrowded, lice-infested detention centers for weeks or months at a time. People who helped enable these policies do not deserve to be able to go out to eat in peace. Being asked to leave a restaurant is very minor compared to having your children forcibly removed from you and never seeing them again, which is the case for hundreds of families, thanks to Trump's cruel policies.


No there isn't. Only conspiracy theories.


There's nothing that excuses an old man with a radio audience of millions, from calling a young lady a slut and a prostitute on the air.


He was specifically asked to not include any political commentary on the air, which obviously includes racist statements. Rush can't help himself.


No she wasn't. One has nothing to do with another. The private server she was using, was being used for her government work as SoS, not her campaign. It doesn't matter if he was hacked by clicking on an unverified link. It was still against the law. Why would someone on Clinton's staff send an unverified link to Podesta, to gain access to her email? That is something a professional hacker would do, not some random member of her staff.


Trump publicly called John McCain, a veteran who made great sacrifices for our country, a loser. What we he think differently of any other member of the military?

Trump is not pro-military. Your views of Trump, and the views of most other Trump supporters, are based on an imaginary figure, who is not the stupid, selfish, thoughtless ignoramus that Trump is. Trump has no concern for anyone but himself and his friends and family. When he spoke to a widow of an army soldier who died in service, he left her in tears, because he didn't even know her name.


What does any of this have to do with Trump? His sister said he had someone take his SATs for him. There's no reason to believe what she said was untrue. Why would she lie about this to her niece? Again, your views of Trump are based on an imaginary figure, rather than the ignoramus Trump is in real life.


and if the state legislatures pass a law that the electoral votes are chosen by the people, then that is how they're chosen.



What you're posting is very dishonest. As I said before, you're basing your views of Obama, strictly on his first year or two in office. I will assume it's because you don't know better, and are repeating what you've heard from dishonest sources, rather than you being the one who is dishonest. Please tell me if you understand the difference between the following:

When Obama took office, the deficit was > $1 trillion, the unemployment rate was 9%, the economy was losing 700,000 jobs each month.

When Trump took office, the deficit was approximately $660 billion, the unemployment rate was 4.5%, and more than 2 million jobs were being created annually.

Do you understand the difference between the two? If you don't understand the difference, and believe there was no difference between the state of the economy when Obama took office, and the state of the economy when Trump took office, then it's a waste of time discussing this.

First of all , Obama STARTED the policy of detaining children and separating them from their parents. What do YOU suggest be done with children who cross the border illegally ? Take them to Disney World ? How much bad behavior are you willing to reward ? While not perfect, those children were TEMPORARILY confined in relatively humane conditions.

Read your own post. Now YOU get to decide on norms of decent behavior and civility ? And just how does viciously rude behavior advance the causes you would like to promote ? You wail and gnash your teeth about Trump and Rush and then condone similar if not worse behavior by their critics. I am trying to follow the logic of that so please go slower. I advocate for civil discourse and more civility and respect from EVERYONE. Trump , Rush , the left , the Dems , the media, everybody. Why don't you and the Dems go first and show us all how it ought to be done ?

Tucker Carlson had a one hour interview with Hunter's former business partner. Watch it FIRST and then tell me that. So far Hunter has NOT denied a word of content from HIS laptop which was legally obtained. There was no theft and no hacking. Dorsey admitted it and that Twitter was wrong to suppress reporting as it did.

Rush is just as entitled to his opinions as you are to yours. I think the woman in question was able to withstand the name-calling.

Who increased the defense budget ; including pay and benefits ? Trump.
Who improved conditions in the Veterans Hospitals ? Trump.
Who has donated and supported Wounded Warriors ? Trump.
Who has withdrawn troops from overseas and wants to withdraw more ? Trump.
Who killed Solemani ? Trump

I judge folks like Teddy and "Sheets" Byrd by the same standard you are calling for with Trump.

If Trump was never treated with respect by certain Dems and media outlets then how exactly is he expected to be respectful towards everyone at all times ? That's not who he is . He's a New York down in the gutter street fighter. Not a class act like the Bushes or Reagan. In any event he is leaving . Laura Ingraham just said : "Trump Lost ".

What are you going to do with No Trump to kick around for the next four years ? Oh that's right , you will blame all the problems of 2021 , 2022 , 2023 and 2024 on Trump.

You are correct about state legislation. If that's what the legislature said. In any event it is moot. No state legislature is going to try and overturn their state's result.

Stop calling me dishonest ! If you don't like the facts and figures please take it up with the Federal agencies that post the numbers. I have a different opinion of Obama than you do. To me he was and is an economic ignoramus. His policies did not work imho BASED ON THE NUMBERS ! He did not post a single year (YEAR not quarter) of 3% or better economic growth.

Obama had to deal with the after effects of the Financial Crisis. No doubt. He gave us the slowest and shallowest recovery from a recession in U.S. history. Trump had to deal with Covid and all the shutdowns.

The numbers I have cited are a matter of public record. Anyone interested can look them up and make up their own minds.

miss.a.p1600
11-24-2020, 08:08 PM
^Send those kids to Uncle Erics house! Force them to watch Tucker Carleson, listen to trumps rants, binge on politics, read this thread till their eyes bleed.

eagle2
11-24-2020, 10:53 PM
First of all , Obama STARTED the policy of detaining children and separating them from their parents. What do YOU suggest be done with children who cross the border illegally ? Take them to Disney World ? How much bad behavior are you willing to reward. While not perfect, those children were TEMPORARILY confined in relatively humane conditions.

No he did not. Obama did not have a policy of forcibly removing children from their parents. His policy was to make every effort to keep families together. There were children who entered our country without parents, who were temporarily placed in detention centers and released to the Dept. of HHS within 72 hours, as the law requires. Trump is the one who started the zero tolerance policy, where thousands of children were forcibly removed from their parents. They were not confined in humane conditions. They were kept in cold overcrowded detention centers, where there wasn't even enough room for all of them to lie down. There were lice infestations and outbreaks of diseases such as influenza and measles. Conditions were so bad that multiple children died while in custody, including a teenage boy who died on a bathroom floor, because the staff at the detention center refused to take him to a hospital. Zero children died in custody while Obama was in office.



Read your own post. Now YOU get to decide on norms of decent behavior and civility ? And just how does viciously rude behavior advance the causes you would like to promote ? You wail and gnash your teeth about Trump and Rush and then condone similar if not worse behavior by their critics. I am trying to follow the logic of that so please go slower. I advocate for civil discourse and more civility and respect from EVERYONE. Trump , Rush , the left , the Dems , the media, everybody. Why don't you and the Dems go first and show us all how it ought to be done ?

When has any other president or serious presidential candidate in history, ever denigrated and demonized people the way Trump does? When has any other president been so openly racist?



Tucker Carlson had a one hour interview with Hunter's former business partner. Watch it FIRST and then tell me that. So far Hunter has NOT denied a word of content from HIS laptop which was legally obtained. There was no theft and no hacking. Dorsey admitted it and that Twitter was wrong to suppress reporting as it did.

That’s not how our legal system works. Republicans spent millions of dollars investigating Biden and found no wrongdoing. Do you really think Hunter Biden just dropped off a laptop for repair, with all of these incriminating emails and photos, and then just forgot about it?



Rush is just as entitled to his opinions as you are to yours. I think the woman in question was able to withstand the name-calling.

Calling a woman a slut and a prostitute on radio to millions of listeners goes way over the line. It doesn’t matter whether or not she was able to withstand it. IT IS WRONG. I don’t understand how you can defend this.



Who increased the defense budget ; including pay and benefits ? Trump.
Who improved conditions in the Veterans Hospitals ? Trump.
Who has donated and supported Wounded Warriors ? Trump.
Who has withdrawn troops from overseas and wants to withdraw more ? Trump.
Who killed Solemani ? Trump

Of course Trump is going to do what is popular. He wanted to get reelected. What he says and does in private and public are two different things.

Trump didn’t improve conditions in veterans’ hospitals. He took credit for laws passed by Obama.
https://apnews.com/article/375515aecedb4aed949e4f2eb9c54eb6



I judge folks like Teddy and "Sheets" Byrd by the same standard you are calling for with Trump.

Neither of them is running for president.



If Trump was never treated with respect by certain Dems and media outlets then how exactly is he expected to be respectful towards everyone at all times ? That's not who he is . He's a New York down in the gutter street fighter. Not a class act like the Bushes or Reagan. In any event he is leaving . Laura Ingraham just said : "Trump Lost ".

Trump is the one who came out with all of the racist birtherism nonsense. He was racist garbage from day one, and still is. Trump doesn’t just attack people who are disrespectful to him. He attacks, denigrates, and demonizes anyone who reports facts he doesn’t like, disagrees with him, or says anything critical of him. He calls the press, “enemy of the people” for doing their jobs. He wants to be free from criticism or having anything bad reported about him.



Stop calling me dishonest ! If you don't like the facts and figures please take it up with the Federal agencies that post the numbers. I have a different opinion of Obama than you do. To me he was and is an economic ignoramus. His policies did not work imho BASED ON THE NUMBERS ! He did not post a single year , YEAR not quarter of 3% or better economic growth.

You don’t know the facts and figures. Under Obama, there were multiple quarters where gdp growth exceeded 4% and one quarter where gdp growth hit 5%. Other than the one quarter where gdp grew at 33% after contracting 32% the previous quarter, Trump has zero quarters where gdp growth exceeded 4%. Under Obama, the best gdp growth over one years was 2.9%. Under Trump, the best gdp growth over one year was 2.9%.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/



Obama had to deal with the after effects of the Financial Crisis. No doubt. He gave us the slowest and shallowest recovery from a recession in U.S. history. Trump had to deal with Covid and all the shutdowns.

The numbers I have cited are a matter of public record. Anyone interested can look them up and make up their own minds.
The numbers you cited were incorrect.

It wasn’t the slowest recovery. The recovery from the Great Depression was much slower. In the 1870s, there was a depression that lasted 30 years.

eagle2
11-24-2020, 10:55 PM
Rush was angry with her arrogance , sense of entitlement and lack of respect for the religious beliefs of others. Normally genteel , Rush was off base with his language.


Religious beliefs where women are prohibited from using contraception do not deserve respect. It's a stupid, ignorant belief that's extremely harmful to women.

naomi_doll
11-24-2020, 11:18 PM
Religious beliefs where women are prohibited from using contraception do not deserve respect. It's a stupid, ignorant belief that's extremely harmful to women.

I agree, as a woman that needs birth control for a reason that isn’t for preventing pregnancy, it’s like pulling out your eyeballs to get insurance to pay for other treatments.

dpacrkk
11-25-2020, 03:24 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGMEZXEkvGs

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2020, 03:32 AM
Cotdamn whoever sat there and found all those clips deserves an award.

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Eric Stoner
11-25-2020, 08:34 AM
^Send those kids to Uncle Erics house! Force them to watch Tucker Carleson, listen to trumps rants, binge on politics, read this thread till their eyes bleed.

I don't think my house is big enough. Plus, with this Covid thing I doubt it's a good idea. On the other hand I do speak some Spanish and I have a lot of leaves that need picking up. Let me get back to you.

Eric Stoner
11-25-2020, 09:05 AM
Eagle : I think we are both pushing this to the point of being boring. And maybe annoying. We have thrusted and parried back and forth on Trump long enough. He's not a nice guy or a good person. On balance he is a bombastic egotist. I never said otherwise. He IS careless in his language. He doesn't like it when the media calls him out on his fables and factual delinquencies. Which are legion. I don't like the guy. You hate him. I don't think it is a good idea to hate someone the way you hate Trump.Inter alia, it clouds your judgement. Trump makes that mistake all the time. In this regard I just finished Harold Holzer's excellent book - "The Presidents vs. The Press." You will LOVE his chapter on Trump. Very fair. Very accurate. Very au courant. In contrast I also just finished "The Last Brahmin" an excellent biography of Henry Cabot Lodge. If only there were more genuine patriots and public servants like him today . Sigh.

Trump is leaving office. You won't have him to blame for the world's ills for much longer. Limbaugh might not be around for much longer either given his latest health reports. Don't worry , Sean Hannity will still be around and you can go at him to your heart's content. I won't lift a finger or type a word to defend him or some of the nutty things he and some of his guests say.

As for Joe and Hunter Biden. READ the Senate report on Hunter and his financial dealings. Given Hunter's alcoholism and drug use it is easy to believe that he dropped off a laptop for repair and then forgot about it. If you have watched and listened to him , he was never the sharpest knife in the drawer anyway. The owner of the computer shop has been interviewed and tells a credible story. The FBI has taken custody of the laptop and opened a SECOND investigation into Hunter's affairs. One of which is centered on possible money laundering and the other deals with possible fraud. Please note I just posted : " POSSIBLE ". To date there is not a proven case of any wrongdoing by Hunter. It is possible that he broke no law and committed no crime. Just took advantage of his father's name and title. Gee , just like Donald Nixon ; Susan Ford ; Billy Carter ; Ron and Patti Davis Reagan; Neal Bush and his brother G.W. when their daddy was Veep and the POTUS ; Roger, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton ; arguably Jenna Bush and Michelle Obama just to name few.

As for the economic facts and figures I get them from the same government agencies that publish the numbers that you like.

Btw, we did NOT have a 30 year Depression after the Panic of '73. We did have booms and busts directly tied to our use and and misuse of the gold standard. The reasons the Depression lasted for 10 years under Hoover and FDR were government policy and mismanagement. Hoover raised taxes. So did FDR when both should have cut tax rates. The Fed raised interest rates and increased reserve requirements when they ought to have been doing the opposite. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Bill caused a collapse in international trade . Few if any of FDR's Alphabet Soup agencies and programs did much to improve the economy. In fact , after his reelection in 1936 he cut spending and raised taxes AGAIN ! It was W.W.II that really ended the Depression.

Eric Stoner
11-25-2020, 09:10 AM
Religious beliefs where women are prohibited from using contraception do not deserve respect. It's a stupid, ignorant belief that's extremely harmful to women.

NOBODY tried to PROHIBIT anyone from using birth control. The issue is and was REQUIRING religious employers to provide or pay for birth control and abortion when either or both are contrary to their religious beliefs. If Sandra Fluke did not like or agree with the policies of Georgetown she could have gone to law school somewhere else or paid for her own contraception. That is exactly what Rush was saying but, But , BUT, I took the trouble to re-read what Rush actually said in context and his half assed apology and he was wrong. He personalized a public policy disagreement with an arguably misogynistic attack on Ms. Fluke. He lost a lot of advertisers and two radio stations dropped his show. Afaik he has not repeated that sort of attack.

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2020, 12:41 PM
Eagle : I think we are both pushing this to the point of being boring. And maybe annoying. We have thrusted and parried back and forth on Trump long enough. He's not a nice guy or a good person. On balance he is a bombastic egotist. I never said otherwise. He IS careless in his language. He doesn't like it when the media calls him out on his fables and factual delinquencies. Which are legion. I don't like the guy. You hate him. I don't think it is a good idea to hate someone the way you hate Trump.Inter alia, it clouds your judgement. Trump makes that mistake all the time. In this regard I just finished Harold Holzer's excellent book - "The Presidents vs. The Press." You will LOVE his chapter on Trump. Very fair. Very accurate. Very au courant. In contrast I also just finished "The Last Brahmin" an excellent biography of Henry Cabot Lodge. If only there were more genuine patriots and public servants like him today . Sigh.

Trump is leaving office. You won't have him to blame for the world's ills for much longer. Limbaugh might not be around for much longer either given his latest health reports. Don't worry , Sean Hannity will still be around and you can go at him to your heart's content. I won't lift a finger or type a word to defend him or some of the nutty things he and some of his guests say.

As for Joe and Hunter Biden. READ the Senate report on Hunter and his financial dealings. Given Hunter's alcoholism and drug use it is easy to believe that he dropped off a laptop for repair and then forgot about it. If you have watched and listened to him , he was never the sharpest knife in the drawer anyway. The owner of the computer shop has been interviewed and tells a credible story. The FBI has taken custody of the laptop and opened a SECOND investigation into Hunter's affairs. One of which is centered on possible money laundering and the other deals with possible fraud. Please note I just posted : " POSSIBLE ". To date there is not a proven case of any wrongdoing by Hunter. It is possible that he broke no law and committed no crime. Just took advantage of his father's name and title. Gee , just like Donald Nixon ; Susan Ford ; Billy Carter ; Ron and Patti Davis Reagan; Neal Bush and his brother G.W. when their daddy was Veep and the POTUS ; Roger, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton ; arguably Jenna Bush and Michelle Obama just to name few.

As for the economic facts and figures I get them from the same government agencies that publish the numbers that you like.

Btw, we did NOT have a 30 year Depression after the Panic of '73. We did have booms and busts directly tied to our use and and misuse of the gold standard. The reasons the Depression lasted for 10 years under Hoover and FDR were government policy and mismanagement. Hoover raised taxes. So did FDR when both should have cut tax rates. The Fed raised interest rates and increased reserve requirements when they ought to have been doing the opposite. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Bill caused a collapse in international trade . Few if any of FDR's Alphabet Soup agencies and programs did much to improve the economy. In fact , after his reelection in 1936 he cut spending and raised taxes AGAIN ! It was W.W.II that really ended the Depression.

the visuals though.....

baer45
11-25-2020, 03:05 PM
Your favorite televangelist can replace him .... seems they have the same IQ, same level of wealth acquired from their mindless followers, same denial about covid


https://youtu.be/hsGbk820O_Y

A Demon.

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2020, 10:19 PM
Lol!!!

A demon who - ironically- refuses to fly on planes with other passengers aka “a tube full of demons”

Eric Stoner
12-15-2020, 10:56 AM
Re : Hunter Biden - I TOLD YOU SO , I TOLD YOU SO ! Now being investigated for tax evasion and Joe had his own set of keys to Hunter's office. I don't think it was so he could clean the place.

Eric Stoner
12-15-2020, 11:09 AM
Btw- Why can't Trump grow the fuck up ? He has totally worn me out with his crybaby bullshit. Concede already even though now it would look kinda pathetic. McConnell and almost every GOP Senator has congratulated Biden.
His fraud allegations are just that. ALLEGATIONS. Every time a judge has told his legal team to put up or shut up they end up having nothing. Enough already.
And show up for Biden's inauguration after having him and Jill over for coffee at the White House.
Maher was right - Trump can be a whiny little bitch.

eagle2
12-15-2020, 12:36 PM
Re : Hunter Biden - I TOLD YOU SO , I TOLD YOU SO ! Now being investigated for tax evasion and Joe had his own set of keys to Hunter's office. I don't think it was so he could clean the place.

I don't care about Hunter Biden. He's not holding public office.

Not only are Trump's children under criminal investigation, Trump is, himself.

Raziel
12-15-2020, 01:08 PM
Yeah, Hunter isn't Joe. I don't know why Trump is so obsessed with him. Hey dude, you missed!

miss.a.p1600
12-15-2020, 03:26 PM
Btw- Why can't Trump grow the fuck up ? He has totally worn me out with his crybaby bullshit. Concede already even though now it would look kinda pathetic. McConnell and almost every GOP Senator has congratulated Biden.
His fraud allegations are just that. ALLEGATIONS. Every time a judge has told his legal team to put up or shut up they end up having nothing. Enough already.
And show up for Biden's inauguration after having him and Jill over for coffee at the White House.
Maher was right - Trump can be a whiny little bitch.

probably the result of someone who rarely gets told no.

and when they don’t get the answer they want they kind of bombard their way into getting what they want either through money or force/violence/coercion/manipulation

lots of people out there just like that.

Raziel
12-15-2020, 04:53 PM
Probably, MissP is most likely right. I mean this guy is a Toddler. He cries all the time. He needs to go. I don't mind a Republican, but a fantasy storyteller should be left to me and mine. Not the president.

Eric Stoner
12-16-2020, 08:28 AM
I don't care about Hunter Biden. He's not holding public office.

Not only are Trump's children under criminal investigation, Trump is, himself.

The issue is not Hunter. It is JOE. If Joe was in Hunter's deals for a piece ; IF Hunter was turning over half his earnings to Joe ; IF Joe used improper influence including threats to benefit or protect Hunter. Is Joe subject to Chinese blackmail ? We will see.

As for the Trumps , there is no evidence ( so far ) that any of them including The Donald did anything wrong. So far , the "investigations " by Cy Vance Jr. and Latetia James have nothing but political fishing expeditions.

Raziel
12-16-2020, 09:33 AM
Why do you think Hunter would just turn all his money over to his dad? He's a grown man! He needs whatever money he makes. I wouldn't do that in a MILLION YEARS. Fuck my dad! Hunter is taking all the risk and Joe's just sitting there? This is all fake, bro. Joe had nothing to do with what may or may not have happened.

And The Donald accepted Russian help to get elected in the first place, you think he stopped there? I got a bridge to sell you.

kamiliam
12-16-2020, 11:11 AM
The issue is not Hunter. It is JOE. If Joe was in Hunter's deals for a piece ; IF Hunter was turning over half his earnings to Joe ; IF Joe used improper influence including threats to benefit or protect Hunter. Is Joe subject to Chinese blackmail ? We will see.

As for the Trumps , there is no evidence ( so far ) that any of them including The Donald did anything wrong. So far , the "investigations " by Cy Vance Jr. and Latetia James have nothing but political fishing expeditions.

This is utter nonsense. The fact that Barr sat on Hunter's tax info shows me that there is nothing connecting Joe, or have you decided that makes Barr a part of the deep state?

Raziel
12-16-2020, 11:27 AM
Barr is most definitely NOT a part of the Deep State. The guy bent over backwards to defend Trump's delusions.

Raziel
12-16-2020, 11:51 AM
Occam's Razor: Basic scientific principal. The simplest, most direct, explanation is usually correct.

The bane of Conspiracy Theorists. But odds are this isn't some deal between Father and Son. The fact is, as kamiliam stated, Barr sat on it. If it had been real, Barr would have been all over it. He was up Trump's ass enough. Enough with the Conspiracy Theories.

eagle2
12-16-2020, 12:54 PM
The issue is not Hunter. It is JOE. If Joe was in Hunter's deals for a piece ; IF Hunter was turning over half his earnings to Joe ; IF Joe used improper influence including threats to benefit or protect Hunter. Is Joe subject to Chinese blackmail ? We will see.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html


After going quiet in the months before the election, federal authorities are now actively investigating the business dealings of Hunter Biden, a person with knowledge of the probe said. His father, President-elect Joe Biden, is not implicated.

I don't even think Joe Biden was in office at the time these business dealings took place.



As for the Trumps , there is no evidence ( so far ) that any of them including The Donald did anything wrong. So far , the "investigations " by Cy Vance Jr. and Latetia James have nothing but political fishing expeditions.

There's lots of evidence of dishonest, unethical behavior by Trump and his children. Ivanka was paid over $700,000 in consulting fees by the Trump Organization, at the same time she was an employee of the company. Trump gave different valuations of his properties when seeking bank loans and for paying taxes. During the inauguration, the Trumps charged way above market rates, for use of their DC hotel.

Why is it, with Biden, you're saying, "It is JOE", when he hasn't even been implicated, but with the Trumps, it's "political fishing expeditions"?

eagle2
12-16-2020, 01:01 PM
Btw- Why can't Trump grow the fuck up ? He has totally worn me out with his crybaby bullshit. Concede already even though now it would look kinda pathetic. McConnell and almost every GOP Senator has congratulated Biden.
His fraud allegations are just that. ALLEGATIONS. Every time a judge has told his legal team to put up or shut up they end up having nothing. Enough already.
And show up for Biden's inauguration after having him and Jill over for coffee at the White House.
Maher was right - Trump can be a whiny little bitch.

I TOLD YOU SO , I TOLD YOU SO !

You have this mistaken belief about Trump that he's a normal person who just happens to say stuff that's politically incorrect, rather than the narcistic sociopath that he actually is.

slowpoke
12-16-2020, 01:15 PM
Occam's Razor: Basic scientific principal. The simplest, most direct, explanation is usually correct.



Hunter is Joe's bag man.

miss.a.p1600
12-16-2020, 01:16 PM
^ whiny bitch + narcissistic sociopath + predator + 4 time baby daddy + liar + bunker bitch + con artist .......

Raziel
12-16-2020, 01:31 PM
^ whiny bitch + narcissistic sociopath + predator + 4 time baby daddy + liar + bunker bitch + con artist .......

^ Yep. The faster he goes, the better. He'll probably ask the Military to stage a coup, the trouble is they hate him. LOL. Good luck with that, buddy.



Hunter is Joe's bag man.

Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. Hunter may or may not have done something out of bounds, but so did Trump, I'm not going to argue that. But none of it has anything to do with his Father, Joe (A completely different person). Otherwise why weren't Jeffrey Dahmer's parents put in jail? Nobody jailed the parents of Ted Bundy. No matter what your kid does, you are not responsible for it! He or She is! And we don't even know if Hunter did anything.

Eric Stoner
12-18-2020, 08:14 AM
This is utter nonsense. The fact that Barr sat on Hunter's tax info shows me that there is nothing connecting Joe, or have you decided that makes Barr a part of the deep state?

No. Unlike Mr. Comey in 2016 , Barr followed Justice Dept. guidelines in not publicizing a sensitive investigation until AFTER the election was over.

Eric Stoner
12-18-2020, 08:23 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html

I don't even think Joe Biden was in office at the time these business dealings took place.



There's lots of evidence of dishonest, unethical behavior by Trump and his children. Ivanka was paid over $700,000 in consulting fees by the Trump Organization, at the same time she was an employee of the company. Trump gave different valuations of his properties when seeking bank loans and for paying taxes. During the inauguration, the Trumps charged way above market rates, for use of their DC hotel.

Why is it, with Biden, you're saying, "It is JOE", when he hasn't even been implicated, but with the Trumps, it's "political fishing expeditions"?

Eagle- What Ivanka got paid is not any of our business. It's between her and her father's company. It's a PRIVATE company , not publicly traded.

You are very quick to post unproven calumnies against Trump and his family. The fact is Trump charged market rates which for something like the Inaugural are naturally higher.

Real estate is a total quagmire for tax and finance purposes. Real estate developers , including Trump , take advantage of all sorts of loopholes and special provisions for write offs not available to most of us "little people".

I have been careful to note that Hunter and Joe's activities are highly suspicious and yet not necessarily illegal. Improper and corrupt does not necessarily mean criminal.

Hunter was put on the Board of Burisma while Joe was Veep. The Chinese gave his hedge fund 1.5 BILLION to invest while Joe was in office. You are correct only about Hunter's dealings and Joe's meeting with Bobulinski.

miss.a.p1600
12-18-2020, 11:21 AM
The election is killing you eh?


https://youtu.be/0qcXxXxZvnU

Sorry I couldn’t resist :P:D

Raziel
12-18-2020, 11:23 AM
I love that song.

eagle2
12-18-2020, 02:40 PM
Eagle- What Ivanka got paid is not any of our business. It's between her and her father's company. It's a PRIVATE company , not publicly traded.


If Trump is paying her as a consultant, while she's an employee of the company to avoid paying taxes, then they're breaking the law.



You are very quick to post unproven calumnies against Trump and his family. The fact is Trump charged market rates which for something like the Inaugural are naturally higher.

They're currently being sued in court over it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/02/us/suit-claiming-inaugural-committee-overpaid-a-trump-hotel-moves-forward-with-ivanka-trump-deposition.html



Real estate is a total quagmire for tax and finance purposes. Real estate developers , including Trump , take advantage of all sorts of loopholes and special provisions for write offs not available to most of us "little people".

It doesn't mean it's legal.



I have been careful to note that Hunter and Joe's activities are highly suspicious and yet not necessarily illegal. Improper and corrupt does not necessarily mean criminal.

Why do you find the Bidens' activities highly suspicious, but not the Trumps'? Again, Joe is not responsible for Hunter's actions. Hunter is an adult.



Hunter was put on the Board of Burisma while Joe was Veep. The Chinese gave his hedge fund 1.5 BILLION to invest while Joe was in office. You are correct only about Hunter's dealings and Joe's meeting with Bobulinski.

The Republicans have already investigated this and found no wrongdoing, and Joe Biden isn't responsible for his son's actions. If Joe Biden broke the law, do you really think Trump's DOJ wouldn't have brought criminal charges against him by now? Trump has been urging his DOJ to jail Clinton, Obama, and Biden, which is one more reason why Trump is unfit to be president. Trump even asked a foreign government to bring criminal investigations against Joe Biden, and publicly announce it.

Raziel
12-18-2020, 04:14 PM
Eagle- What Ivanka got paid is not any of our business. It's between her and her father's company. It's a PRIVATE company , not publicly traded.

I gotta say, i don't really give a shit what Ivanka got paid. She's not the president. I could care less about Ivanka.


You are very quick to post unproven calumnies against Trump and his family. The fact is Trump charged market rates which for something like the Inaugural are naturally higher.

He's the PRESIDENT. Shouldn't we hold him to a higher standard? He's this dumb, corrupt, reality star pretending to be President! AND FAILING AT IT AT EVERY TURN. It's like a Ten year old pretending to be the president.

All this said with respect.

dpacrkk
01-06-2021, 06:04 PM
Ossoff and Warnock won.

Raziel
01-06-2021, 09:20 PM
Ossoff and Warnock won.

So Ossoff actually did win? Cool. I wasn't watching TV for the past few hours.