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Raziel
01-08-2021, 11:13 AM
How many have been arrested ? Indicted ? Convicted ?

Look, no offense, but this is a pretty stupid statement. You really think they're going to Indict in two days? This shit takes forever. Convict them in two days? You must have a high opinion of the Justice System. It moves like a fucking TURTLE.

Raziel
01-08-2021, 11:17 AM
Yeah, they blame Antifa and, at the same time claim credit for this. WTF is with these guys?

Eric Stoner
01-08-2021, 11:34 AM
Look, no offense, but this is a pretty stupid statement. You really think they're going to Indict in two days? This shit takes forever. Convict them in two days? You must have a high opinion of the Justice System. It moves like a fucking TURTLE.

I generally ignore your junk and don't bother responding BUT I think I misunderstood you. I thought you were blaming right wing infiltrators for violence committed by AntiFa and other thugs AT PREVIOUS protests/riots.

Raziel
01-08-2021, 11:36 AM
I wasn't, I was saying Antifa wasn't there. If you don't give me proof, I think it's bullshit. Antifa had no time to organize anything. It's loose, it's not an organization.

And i'm not talking about other riots. Antifa has indeed done violence, but not on this occasion.

I mean, how quick do you think they Indict people?

Eric Stoner
01-08-2021, 11:40 AM
I wasn't, I was saying Antifa wasn't there. If you don't give me proof, I think it's bullshit. Antifa had no time to organize anything.

I AGREE with you. First of all, I don't think Anti-Fa had anything to do with this. I mentioned the reports ( maybe "unsupported allegations " would be more accurate ) of their involvement merely to illustrate factually delinquent speculation and reportage substituting for CONFIRMED reports. No matter how good such nonsense makes nitwits like Hannity feel.

QAnon is a lunatic fringe group. Most of its members should be institutionalized and /or forcibly medicated imho.

Raziel
01-08-2021, 11:45 AM
Yeah, you're right about Qanon, they are fucking crazy.

There are dudes on the left that are just as nuts as the dudes on the right.

Eric Stoner
01-08-2021, 12:09 PM
OMG ! Twice in one day we agree lol. Alert the media lol.

whirlerz
01-08-2021, 01:49 PM
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/01/08/capitol-police-failure-456237

baer45
01-08-2021, 03:52 PM
Before the rioters marching to the Capitol building:

Trump: "You need to fight, fight like hell... I will march with you guys..."
Eric Trump: “Have some backbone. Show some fight. Learn from Donald Trump”


Then, Trump and his flock retreated to the Whitehouse. They watched rioters stormed the Capitol building on their TV. Cheering, and dancing...

Later that day, Trump gave a speech that rioters are criminals, he condemns...


Seriously, How dumb can a human be to be a Trump supporter at that point?

I am sorry a woman got shot. But you are a veteran, you should have known better. You swore an oath to protect the constitution and democracy. You know the consequences when you illegally enter a federal building while capitol polices have the order to shoot the intruders. I am surprised only one got shot... Well, not really surprised, after watching the video that cops opened the door for the rioters or chilled on the other side of the building as nothing happened.

Hard to believe, this country can be so dumb.

eagle2
01-08-2021, 04:22 PM
Later that day, Trump gave a speech that rioters are criminals, he condemns...



I believe he said they're special people and he loves them, but they should go home.

baer45
01-08-2021, 04:28 PM
I believe he said they're special people and he loves them, but they should go home.

“Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem,” he said. “America is and must always be a nation of law and order. The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engaged in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law, you will pay.”

miss.a.p1600
01-08-2021, 04:32 PM
Before the rioters marching to the Capitol building:

Trump: "You need to fight, fight like hell... I will march with you guys..."
Eric Trump: “Have some backbone. Show some fight. Learn from Donald Trump”


Then, Trump and his flock retreated to the Whitehouse. They watched rioters stormed the Capitol building on their TV. Cheering, and dancing...

Later that day, Trump gave a speech that rioters are criminals, he condemns...


Seriously, How dumb can a human be to be a Trump supporter at that point?

I am sorry a woman got shot. But you are a veteran, you should have known better. You swore an oath to protect the constitution and democracy. You know the consequences when you illegally enter a federal building while capitol polices have the order to shoot the intruders. I am surprised only one got shot... Well, not really surprised, after watching the video that cops opened the door for the rioters or chilled on the other side of the building as nothing happened.

Hard to believe, this country can be so dumb.

The fucked up thing. Besides Trump being an idiot. Was that in the full video you can hear someone yelling “he’s got a gun!” (Referring to the man who shot that Ashley woman) But the crowd was so amped up they obviously didn’t hear or ignored the guys warning.

Really dumb idea that cost her her life.

eagle2
01-08-2021, 04:36 PM
From:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-video-statement-capitol-rioters-we-love-you-very-special-2021-1

After hours of violence and chaos, Trump told his supporters to "go home" but did not condemn them. Later in the day, went even further in a follow up tweet to depict the siege as inevitable.

He also continued to falsely claim the presidential election was stolen.

"This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people," Trump said in the video. "We have to have peace. So go home. We love you; you're very special."

miss.a.p1600
01-08-2021, 05:28 PM
Last I checked his Twitter is empty. Tweets removed n such. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/twitter-permanently-suspends-trumps-account.html

Only a matter of time before his thirsty ass is attention seeking on LinkedIn

miss.a.p1600
01-08-2021, 05:36 PM
From:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-video-statement-capitol-rioters-we-love-you-very-special-2021-1

After hours of violence and chaos, Trump told his supporters to "go home" but did not condemn them. Later in the day, went even further in a follow up tweet to depict the siege as inevitable.

He also continued to falsely claim the presidential election was stolen.

"This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people," Trump said in the video. "We have to have peace. So go home. We love you; you're very special."

You’re very “special” = you’re very mentally challenged

That’s how I interpreted that.

That’s probably what he meant lol.

Anyone paying into his stop the steal campaign n risking their life for him IS .... “special”

miss.a.p1600
01-08-2021, 05:45 PM
Last I checked his Twitter is empty. Tweets removed n such. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/twitter-permanently-suspends-trumps-account.html

Only a matter of time before his thirsty ass is attention seeking on LinkedIn

His die-hard fans leaving Twitter and moving to Parlor

But now the app Parlor is at risk of being removed from apple store
https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2021-01-08/apple-threatens-to-remove-parler-social-networking-service-from-app-store
Apple may pull Parlor, the conservative social app, from ... (https://www.imore.com/apple-may-pull-parlor-conservative-social-app-app-store)

eagle2
01-08-2021, 07:11 PM
I'm sorry. I couldn't resist.

https://i.imgur.com/vKDgKOK.jpg

miss.a.p1600
01-08-2021, 08:19 PM
This trick banned from Shopify, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch, and Snapchat.

He tried to get rid of TikTok so he can’t go there.

Right wing extremist app Parler removed from Google Play n is experiencing “network issues” on App Store.

Only thing left is eBay n LinkedIn ..... n Onlyfans

I’ll piss myself if he tries to post from Ivanka or Melania’s account

https://twitter.com/fliceverett/status/1347690431610556421?s=21

AChildOfBoredom
01-08-2021, 10:48 PM
The Military does not have to follow his orders. It is their duty to disobey an unjust order. Besides that, they hate him.

I wouldn’t be so certain of that


https://youtu.be/-ng7ainNcbs

Even if Trump’s reputation is less among them then it was then, it doesn’t mean they’re fond of Biden or favor him over Trump. “But the Generals say…”. Doesn’t matter. The backbone of the military is the enlisted and junior NCOs - whole different animal than a General.

miss.a.p1600
01-08-2021, 10:49 PM
People on Twitter relentlessly trolling Trump under hashtags

#byetwitter
#wearetrump
#trumpbanned
#melania
#myspace
#potus

indiegirl
01-08-2021, 11:00 PM
In the past I used to think the democrats were far more sore losers but the republicans take the cake. How embarrassing to behave like that. Totally get being upset but storming around like that BAHAHA

Emanuelle
01-09-2021, 03:06 AM
This trick banned from Shopify, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitch, and Snapchat.

He tried to get rid of TikTok so he can’t go there.

Right wing extremist app Parler removed from Google Play n is experiencing “network issues” on App Store.

Only thing left is eBay n LinkedIn ..... n Onlyfans

I’ll piss myself if he tries to post from Ivanka or Melania’s account



Oh please let Donald Trump start an OnlyFans.

Emanuelle
01-09-2021, 03:08 AM
People on Twitter relentlessly trolling Trump under hashtags

#byetwitter
#wearetrump
#trumpbanned
#melania
#myspace
#potus

#myspace BAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

dpacrkk
01-09-2021, 03:38 AM
When have I ever advocated , excused or condoned violence ? Never. Not once.

When have I ever claimed you did? Never. Not once.


In the last four years we have seen a lot more organized political violence from the left than from the right. Almost all right wing political events started out as and stayed peaceful. ALL of Trump's rallies were peaceful.

It's not the rally. It's what they do after and because of the rally.


At the last one he told them to go to the Capitol PEACEFULLY.

No he didn't. He just told them to go there:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht20eDYmLXU&ab_channel=BloombergQuicktake%3ANow

But what did you realistically expect to happen when a leader bombards the crowd for over an hour about a "rigged election," an "egregious assault on democracy," "you'll never take back the country with weakness, you have to show strength," and (here's the worst one) "the election was stolen, let’s march to the Capitol?" Add the months of rhetoric and conspiracy theories about stolen elections to incense them.



And your post wasn't even relevant to my reply. To reiterate: you seem to imply that when one major party panders to populism to stay in power, it's fine, but when a small faction of the other major party does, it's terrible.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 07:23 AM
Don’t worry y’all he’s on Parler n his username = Ivanka69


https://youtu.be/FcAGbUkVoD0

Raziel
01-09-2021, 10:04 AM
That Twitter addict is probably really jittery by now.

This is fucking hilarious!

kamiliam
01-09-2021, 10:59 AM
Baked Alaska the white nationalist streamer who participated and live-streamed the riot, had tested positive for covid 2 days earlier. He is not a fan of masks.

Raziel
01-09-2021, 11:18 AM
kamiliam, I learned something new. An impeachment DOES allow you to run again, but there's something else they can do. Basically attach language to the Impeachment that bars the dude from running again. Now, I'm not certain about this, but i believe it's a separate vote. I could be wrong, though.

eagle2
01-09-2021, 12:14 PM
If the Senate votes to Remove Trump from office, he cannot run again.

kamiliam
01-09-2021, 12:52 PM
If the Senate votes to Remove Trump from office, he cannot run again.


so once again, this is not always true. They will vote again after he is convicted. That vote only requires a simple majority not 2/3.

they will do that vote in this case, but we really need to understand how limited we are in removing a sitting president.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 01:10 PM
should have never allowed his monkey ass in there in the first place.

He's like a squatter. Can't get rid of him once he bombarded his way into a space he doesn't belong.

Probably need to strengthen the qualifications to become a leader of this country.

eagle2
01-09-2021, 01:15 PM
It looks like the ignoramus who walked off with Pelosi's podium put it up for sale on eBay.

https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/getty/2021/1/8/7c0eaa58-d29f-4854-bd97-803e31f4419b-getty-1294949346.jpg

https://i.redd.it/dqf1c6hi4v961.jpg

There's always the possibility that the listing was a prank, but given how stupid some of these rioters are, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be true.

kamiliam
01-09-2021, 01:17 PM
should have never allowed his monkey ass in there in the first place.

He's like a squatter. Can't get rid of him once he bombarded his way into a space he doesn't belong.

Probably need to strengthen the qualifications to become a leader of this country.

Ironically changing the constitution to add more qualifications would just lead to unilateral power from the executive. “I am the most qualified president ever, I deserve unlimited terms and more power” also the same elites who got us into this mess and supported trump would all be qualified.

If I were to support any change it would be to shortening the term length. Too much can happen in 4 years.
Edit- this would need to be combined with major campaign finance reform in order to be of any benefit
We also need to mandate civics in our schools

Raziel
01-09-2021, 01:53 PM
It looks like the ignoramus who walked off with Pelosi's podium put it up for sale on eBay.

Yeah, because that's gonna work. What a moron, might as well paint a big ARROW pointing at him.

John Dillinger, this guy is not.

Djoser
01-09-2021, 02:47 PM
Yes good luck to him actually spending any of that money, if he even gets as far as selling it.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 03:03 PM
Ironically changing the constitution to add more qualifications would just lead to unilateral power from the executive. “I am the most qualified president ever, I deserve unlimited terms and more power” also the same elites who got us into this mess and supported trump would all be qualified.

If I were to support any change it would be to shortening the term length. Too much can happen in 4 years.
Edit- this would need to be combined with major campaign finance reform in order to be of any benefit
We also need to mandate civics in our schools

i suppose I was thinking like similar qualifications that it takes to become say an FBI secret agent or whatnot

i highly doubt Trump (or any other unsavory former president) would have gotten that far if they were required to take psychological exams.

i don’t want some deranged/unhinged dude with an undiagnosed/untreated mental or personality disorder leading me around.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 03:05 PM
id be surprised if eBay kept that listing up n allowed it to be sold

most likely they’ll ride the wave of free publicity then shut down the listing after people complain



It looks like the ignoramus who walked off with Pelosi's podium put it up for sale on eBay.

https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/getty/2021/1/8/7c0eaa58-d29f-4854-bd97-803e31f4419b-getty-1294949346.jpg

https://i.redd.it/dqf1c6hi4v961.jpg

There's always the possibility that the listing was a prank, but given how stupid some of these rioters are, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be true.

Raziel
01-09-2021, 03:38 PM
id be surprised if eBay kept that listing up n allowed it to be sold

most likely they’ll ride the wave of free publicity then shut down the listing after people complain

And because this dude's home gets raided because he was dumb enough to put that thing on Ebay. God, what a moron! If this is the caliber of Trump supporters, I don't know why we were so worried. His followers are absolutely stupid!

I mean the guy announced that he's the one that stole this!

Erika_Xstacy
01-09-2021, 04:51 PM
If a president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, they lose many of the benefits awarded to former presidents, such as a pension, security detail, and travel allowance. A president who is removed from office via impeachment may also be barred from holding future office.

our president is supposed to protect us from foreign and domestic terrorist attacks. He hasn't done shit during any of the rioting to protect any of us.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 05:05 PM
^most people in United States are dumb, hence how Trump even get elected

Most The people who showed up n trespassed on the Capitol property are dumb mainly because they committed crimes with their mask off making them easily identifiable and making them susceptible to Coronavirus

The law enforcement n FBI is even more dumb because they failed to be proactive then waited after these people went home to then ask the public for help identifying them. Like bruh! should have arrested them on sight like y’all do Black people n secondly these joker have 4K surveillance video of people with their full faces, livestream feeds of these clowns from their public accounts admitting to being there, cellphone records n more......FBI has proved that they are mentally slow.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 05:11 PM
If a president is impeached, convicted, and removed from office, they lose many of the benefits awarded to former presidents, such as a pension, security detail, and travel allowance. A president who is removed from office via impeachment may also be barred from holding future office.

our president is supposed to protect us from foreign and domestic terrorist attacks. He hasn't done shit during any of the rioting to protect any of us.

aw naw that trick don’t deserve a pension nor travel allowance

n he can pay for his own security.

he’s already bamboozled n swindled the American people enough (all those frivolous golf trips paid for using tax dollars)

Btw i want a refund!!! .... and the rest of my stimulus!

eagle2
01-09-2021, 05:16 PM
I say the government should pay for his security, at whichever prison he resides in.

eagle2
01-09-2021, 05:22 PM
I say the government should pay for his security, at whichever prison he resides in.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 05:31 PM
^wouldnt that be more like the residents tax dollars.

I guess I’d rather let my tax dollars go to funding his prison stay than have him waltzing around wreaking havoc

slowpoke
01-09-2021, 05:49 PM
Ironically changing the constitution to add more qualifications would just lead to unilateral power from the executive. “I am the most qualified president ever, I deserve unlimited terms and more power” also the same elites who got us into this mess and supported trump would all be qualified.

If I were to support any change it would be to shortening the term length. Too much can happen in 4 years.
Edit- this would need to be combined with major campaign finance reform in order to be of any benefit
We also need to mandate civics in our schools


The Confederate constitution provided for a single six year term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederate_States

But is a President is not eligible for a second term, he is a lame duck the day he takes office.

eagle2
01-09-2021, 05:52 PM
It looks like the ignoramus who walked off with Pelosi's podium put it up for sale on eBay.

https://imgix.bustle.com/uploads/getty/2021/1/8/7c0eaa58-d29f-4854-bd97-803e31f4419b-getty-1294949346.jpg



Here's his mugshot. He doesn't look too happy here.

https://c.ndtvimg.com/2021-01/c6e0s3d_adam-christian-johnsonus-capitol-violence270_295x200_09_January_21.jpg

kamiliam
01-09-2021, 06:11 PM
The Confederate constitution provided for a single six year term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_Confederate_States

But is a President is not eligible for a second term, he is a lame duck the day he takes office.


Yes that is one of many things I dislike about that racist failed government.

what does a lame duck president with a long term accomplish other then monopoly of power and the ability to groom a heir? I was just expressing that if I wanted to change the constitution it would be for more public involvement. That is why I think education is the key, so we have people engaged and understanding our system.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 06:24 PM
I pretty much predicted he’d try n tweet from someone else’s account lol!

It wasn’t ivanka though https://www.complex.com/life/2021/01/trumps-digital-director-suspended-for-allowing-trump-to-use-his-account

But he was too obvious n quickly shut down.

miss.a.p1600
01-09-2021, 06:35 PM
Don’t worry. Your favorite president *allegedly* has joined alt-right social media playground Parler (which ironically is number one app in Apple despite the fact it was banned on Google Play for members inciting violence n no moderation)

https://www.mediaite.com/news/official-trump-account-appears-on-parler-after-twitter-and-facebook-suspension-see-the-posts-now-marked-private/

slowpoke
01-09-2021, 07:35 PM
Yes that is one of many things I dislike about that racist failed government.

what does a lame duck president with a long term accomplish other then monopoly of power and the ability to groom a heir? I was just expressing that if I wanted to change the constitution it would be for more public involvement. That is why I think education is the key, so we have people engaged and understanding our system.

What passes for education now is just the opposite. Analytical thought is forbidden. Anything other than blind obedience to left wing dogma is punished.