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moneybags
12-05-2021, 03:17 PM
Most men (and woman) will choose the patriarchy over equality. I think that’s a mindfuck for women my age. We were told we were equal, but we found out the hard way how awful the patriarchy is! No one warned us! I feel like the sooner I accept how brainwashed people are to fight and protect the patriarchyal system-unconsciously or worse intentionally-the easier it is to cope. I just wish I was warned! I think it was this naive hope our mothers had that things would be better for us. We actually had “the talk” with my nieces about what to expect as they get older from men, and to protect themselves. I think we did the right thing. We weren’t saying men are awful, we just told her to guard her heart and her body. We taught them not to let men use them for sex.

carmen_b
12-05-2021, 04:59 PM
^ I think it’s a great conversation !!
Men will attempt to use women claiming they “ didn’t know “ you wanted a relationship .

For me ....if they don’t ... well they can get nothing then.

miss.a.p1600
12-06-2021, 10:06 AM
men are so dumb AND hypocritical

They'll be quick to call out women being 'gold diggers' yet they are so superficial and go after women based on looks.

Call me gold digger for not dating you if you didn't have money but if I didn't look good and turn heads when we're out, you probably wouldn't date me either so fuck off with your petty hypocritical beliefs.

Yes bitch I'll instantly leave if you go broke just like you'll cheat n leave if I gained 600 lbs

carmen_b
12-06-2021, 11:21 AM
^ The truth of the world right there.
At least the women’s perspective makes some sense ha ( security = comfort ).

Marina Starr
12-06-2021, 12:11 PM
They can call me a gold digger as much as they want. I actually take that as a compliment. Just don't call me free, used or dumb.

They use that as a psychological guilt trip.





men are so dumb AND hypocritical

They'll be quick to call out women being 'gold diggers' yet they are so superficial and go after women based on looks.

Call me gold digger for not dating you if you didn't have money but if I didn't look good and turn heads when we're out, you probably wouldn't date me either so fuck off with your petty hypocritical beliefs.

Yes bitch I'll instantly leave if you go broke just like you'll cheat n leave if I gained 600 lbs

carmen_b
12-06-2021, 03:53 PM
^ I think I'm beginning to resent the phrase !
Ha.
I dig ,sure , we ALL do . Think of the time we spend on vanilla jobs ect. !! Men too. We all dig.

Marina Starr
12-07-2021, 05:17 PM
I feel when relationships or marriages don't work out, a lot of times women get the blame. Men get the easy way out.

Someone told me this couple have been together for 40 years, not happy in their marriage but chose not to get a divorce because that would cost him too much.
It damn sure doesn't cost too much if your peace and well being is jeopardized.

This person proceeded to tell me his wife is nice to her but she comes across as a real bitch. I told this person that's just her projection. We don't know what goes on at home.
I feel she was putting the blame on his wife so I'm glad that shuts her up.

chanzep
12-07-2021, 06:35 PM
This shot makes me mad. No way would I stay married if I was I unhappy. Who cares how much it costs him. That woman is good because I could never. Ask my current ex husband. How can she spare him. If he found a way to get divorced easy he would weasel.

The gold digger thing made me laugh and reminded me of a guy I dated briefly . When we broke up he said I should return the purse he had just gotten me a few days before. I said no. He said im a gold digger and should be ashamed to take stuff from men!!. I laughed at him and told him not to be emotional over a purse. He's got money so he can STFU! I ain't giving back shit.

whirlerz
12-07-2021, 06:54 PM
OMG, this one asshole, asked me for a flip phone back?
I ignored him, he reported it stolen, & I simply add service to it.
Turned out to be some other b/s involved..

carmen_b
12-08-2021, 12:25 PM
This is how I feel somewhat about my current partner. I didn't really know what he his job was ( beyond a vague description ) or looked like even in the first few months of dating. This is similar to how I keep my real estate projects quiet for obvious reasons in first bit of dating. Now knowing he does VERY well for himself I get more bold asking for things ( mostly outings / fun things to do ). I love great dates lol. I think you can just get somewhat emboldened when you know someone has it you know ? You can ask in a way that isn't tacky . With my ex I never would really ask for an expensive meal out ..... I knew to ask for more moderate .

That guy with the purse .... yeah .... good luck to you getting that back lol.


He's got money so he can STFU! I ain't giving back shit.

Marina Starr
12-08-2021, 06:13 PM
Men don't like boundaries but they don't know how to behave.

Simply put, when you don't set boundaries, men behave badly.

chanzep
12-08-2021, 06:23 PM
This is true. They will get away with whatever you allow. Even the broke ugly ones that pretend to be nice guys!. Actually they are worse because they are not where they want to be. They are insecure and best believe if they somehow level up in life they will upgrade the woman too. It's how men think. I read a book about it years ago I need to see if I can find again it was eye opening and true.
Bottom line is give them a inch and they take a mile.

chanzep
12-08-2021, 06:25 PM
@ Whirlez that guy is crazy reporting the phone wtf!

miss.a.p1600
12-09-2021, 06:34 AM
Men don't like boundaries but they don't know how to behave.

Simply put, when you don't set boundaries, men behave badly.

exactly! They secretly love women who act like megacunts

my dude had the gall to say some “we need to talk”

girl I said “um not till you identify what you need to talk about” cause I’m not about to ruin my night over some made up complaint. N left the room.

next day he laughed about how I was not about to deal with the fuckery.

men are horrible n stay trying to test you. Ugh!!!!! Leave me tf alone!

miss.a.p1600
12-09-2021, 06:38 AM
This is how I feel somewhat about my current partner. I didn't really know what he his job was ( beyond a vague description ) or looked like even in the first few months of dating. This is similar to how I keep my real estate projects quiet for obvious reasons in first bit of dating. Now knowing he does VERY well for himself I get more bold asking for things ( mostly outings / fun things to do ). I love great dates lol. I think you can just get somewhat emboldened when you know someone has it you know ? You can ask in a way that isn't tacky . With my ex I never would really ask for an expensive meal out ..... I knew to ask for more moderate .

That guy with the purse .... yeah .... good luck to you getting that back lol.

agreed.

Unfortunately most men have no discretion

they can see you scrounging for bill money n still be expecting you to pay for things, possibly for them. Or refuse to take initiative to help you forcing you to ask them (thus risking them refusing to help you)

miss.a.p1600
12-09-2021, 06:42 AM
This shot makes me mad. No way would I stay married if I was I unhappy. Who cares how much it costs him. That woman is good because I could never. Ask my current ex husband. How can she spare him. If he found a way to get divorced easy he would weasel.

The gold digger thing made me laugh and reminded me of a guy I dated briefly . When we broke up he said I should return the purse he had just gotten me a few days before. I said no. He said im a gold digger and should be ashamed to take stuff from men!!. I laughed at him and told him not to be emotional over a purse. He's got money so he can STFU! I ain't giving back shit.

A lot of narcissistic people are like this

they provide you with a “gift” but unbeknownst to you it’s “loaned” to you as long as you act a certain way aka do whatever they say.

These people have no class because what idiot gives a gift then tries to take it back? Once it’s in my possession it’s MINE to do whatever tf I want.

Shit if you loaning an item. Say that upfront n stop using trinkets to manipulate. Don’t get attached to an inanimate object.

TheBrownFox
12-09-2021, 02:44 PM
These guys and their obsession with Jordans. Lol.

I swear, a deadbeat father will buy his newborn son Jordans once (For bragging purposes...to pat himself on the back for it), and then never do anything else for that child for the rest of his life. "BuT i BoUgHt HiM jOrDaNs ThAt TiMe!" ::) LMFAO.

chanzep
12-09-2021, 07:48 PM
Yes they will buy Jordan's take pictures then ignore the child's everyday needs and get mad when they are on child support.

indiegirl
12-10-2021, 02:51 AM
Sometimes I go in the “Stupid Annoying Shit” thread in the cam section and realize how much bullshit they have to deal with from men. I would prolly install a punching bag in my room doing camming. The only bonus is they don’t have to meet them in person. Nothing like having angry sex with someone who was rude to you.

Marina Starr
12-10-2021, 10:15 AM
I don't mind if a man is married or taken or who he gives his mornings and daytime to.
I'm okay with having his nights as long as I get the ca$h.

I'm always professional, always discreet but that comes with a price tag. My assignment is to be quiet and get paid.
I'm not interested and will NOT eat another woman's cookie for free.

SnuffleUffleGrass
12-10-2021, 11:38 AM
I don't mind if a man is married or taken or who he gives his mornings and daytime to.
I'm okay with having his nights as long as I get the ca$h.

I'm always professional, always discreet but that comes with a price tag. My assignment is to be quiet and get paid.
I'm not interested and will NOT eat another woman's cookie for free.

This crossed my mind today due to a convo with a co worker at my day job.

Sex workers are the un sung heroes of society in that they allow men to "farm out" their needs.....it used to be a man could desert his wife for no sex and society would blame the woman. Now with modern laws guys are less in a hurry to leave over just sexual incompatibility.

My Man Bitching- ugh boyfriend's gonna whine about undone laundry when I work overtime all month. FACK

moneybags
12-10-2021, 12:50 PM
I don't mind if a man is married or taken or who he gives his mornings and daytime to.
I'm okay with having his nights as long as I get the ca$h.

I'm always professional, always discreet but that comes with a price tag. My assignment is to be quiet and get paid.
I'm not interested and will NOT eat another woman's cookie for free.

A lot of people judge the mistress, but a mistress is a a woman who is smart enough to get paid to be kept quiet.

Marina Starr
12-10-2021, 02:02 PM
Mistress gets the blame from men/patriarchy and women/internalized misogyny. Women are hold to different standards of behavior than men.

Mistress be it paid or free get labeled homewreckers for ruined a 'happy' marriage. A marriage or relationship can only be ruined from within.
Mistresses didn't take the vows of marriage. Married men are married men by choice no matter how terrible they tell you they wives are.

It's best to get paid so you don't just end up with a bad reputation for ruining a 'happy' marriage and nothing to show for.
Imagine how sad being a side hoe believing year after year that a man will eventually leaves his wife for you and not knowing when or never.
Ending up heart broken, all alone, feeling used with nothing to show for and soaking in epsom salt in tears.

That's sad!


A lot of people judge the mistress, but a mistress is a a woman who is smart enough to get paid to be kept quiet.

moneybags
12-10-2021, 02:49 PM
Thanks for the perspective. Even though I haven’t acted on these situations, I use to blame myself for seducing taken men when that was never my intention.

Marina Starr
12-10-2021, 03:08 PM
I think you should go for it if your intentions and boundaries are clear to avoid confusion and hurt feelings.

Women need to understand that men will cheat because they want to. Just as you can't make men do something they don't want to.
Don't blame the other women because if your man wants to cheat he'll cheat with somebody.
If it's not with Madison he works with then it'll be Bunifa at Red Lobster or Latifa at Trader Hoes.

I got you, I don't have to seduce men either but it's not my fault if their dicks get hard just by my existence.


Honestly, I’ve thought about being a mistress. Honestly seems easier than being married. I know it’s not true, but sometimes I feel like that’s my only option. Most men my age are married, and even though I’m not seeking it out the situations keep finding me when I’m not even trying! I meet a guy I really like and find out he’s taken. Ugh. I’m like should I just make an arrangement, of be a “good girl.”. I have a lot of my own internalized patriarchy I need to work on. The bottom line is men are responsible for their behavior-you can’t make someone cheat. I’m never out looking for taken men-they pursue me. I know it’s a hot topic (I was married at one point), but I think there’s nuance in these situations. Most girls just default to blaming women instead of looking at both sides. I never blamed the women. It was apparent to me that my ex was manipulating these women and sadly all they had to show for it was a broken heart.

Thanks for the perspective. Even though I haven’t acted on these situations, I use to blame myself for seducing taken men when that was never my intention nor was I aware of their relationship status in the beginning.

miss.a.p1600
12-10-2021, 03:48 PM
^Bunifa n Latifa lol!

The funniest thing is men will cheat with anything. The people they claim aren’t their type that they’d never be into.

Mmm yeah right.

Marina Starr
12-11-2021, 01:01 PM
It really warms my heart seeing how buthurt fuckboys get when I tell them I don't do fuckboys.

https://i.ibb.co/jytFvqH/tumblr-bb31f2e8ecbc1b665d2a9fbb12f2e03a-6cc419d9-400.gif (https://imgbb.com/)

miss.a.p1600
12-12-2021, 01:16 PM
Men love running guilt trips to keep you in line.

Nah bruh - I see through you like a glass of water.

ravenskyy
12-12-2021, 01:21 PM
Why do all cam customers end up being lying, fake assholes??? Why do I constantly get regulars that try to use me or flake out on me when they're supposed to spend money??? I feel like I'm the only one that can never get legit, solid regulars. My customers are constantly screwing me over and lying to me. I hate it. I hate relying on men so much.

TheBrownFox
12-12-2021, 04:58 PM
When a man in the bar offers to buy a man a drink, he's being friendly (A "bro" thing) and giving him props for something. Like the karaoke song he just sang, or for being a fellow Trump supporter or something.

When a man in the bar offers to buy a woman a drink, he's flirting and gonna ask for her number, and hoping to get his dick sucked/fucked that night. If she declines that drink, he's shaking his head in disappointment. Lol. Yeah, that's right...like the song says "You can't...always get...what you waaaant!" LOL.

Marina Starr
12-12-2021, 05:17 PM
Intention is everything. When men offer to buy women they barely know drinks, it's highly, most definitely because they find her fuckable.

Watch and study their reaction when they don't get what they want. That says a lot about who they are and their intentions.


When a man in the bar offers to buy a man a drink, he's being friendly (A "bro" thing) and giving him props for something. Like the karaoke song he just sang, or for being a fellow Trump supporter or something.

When a man in the bar offers to buy a woman a drink, he's flirting and gonna ask for her number, and hoping to get his dick sucked/fucked that night. If she declines that drink, he's shaking his head in disappointment. Lol. Yeah, that's right...like the song says "You can't...always get...what you waaaant!" LOL.

chanzep
12-12-2021, 09:44 PM
When I was a bartender I saw guys get nasty when women were not leaving with them after drinks. I also had a guy who was talking to a girl once say " nah she has a boyfriend" when I asked if drinks were together because they were talking and ordering at the same time.

neverendingkneebruises
12-12-2021, 10:59 PM
Omg.... this is why I'm an advocate for mild snooping lol

https://www.tiktok.com/@.lifeisahighway420/video/7035433025194167557

whirlerz
12-13-2021, 12:01 PM
Why do all cam customers end up being lying, fake assholes??? Why do I constantly get regulars that try to use me or flake out on me when they're supposed to spend money??? I feel like I'm the only one that can never get legit, solid regulars. My customers are constantly screwing me over and lying to me. I hate it. I hate relying on men so much.

Same here!

Solo disgusted, I get these, "do you dirty talk", or whatever, then they bail, time wasting m/f's

JGB2009
12-13-2021, 12:34 PM
Same here!

Solo disgusted, I get these, "do you dirty talk", or whatever, then they bail, time wasting m/f's

Ugh I hate that.

Marina Starr
12-13-2021, 04:14 PM
I don't mind if a man is conservative as long as he is liberal with his cash.

I'm a liberal Hoe that loves conservative money. #liberalhoe #conservativemoney

WendiStarr
12-13-2021, 04:28 PM
That one ob/gyn that I was seeing before I switched to a new one. I left negative reviews after that last bad experience. They're all mysteriously gone except one on WebMD. He also refused to send my new ob/gyn any test results or records from his office. Whatever. Narcissistic bastard Dr. Peter Shaman.

Marina Starr
12-13-2021, 05:46 PM
What would you do?!

Someone told me today that a friend of hers and her husband told them that he's been cheating on his wife with a co-worker for months. She wanted to know if I would tell his wife.
I told her she's put in a tough position but if she was in his wife's position, would she want to know? She said yes. I told her I would also want to know if my husband was cheating.

How you tell the wife is very important. I would say something like I heard there has been talk that her husband is allegedly having inappropriate interactions with a colleague. As a friend who cares about her and have her best interest, I felt it was the right thing to tell her because I would also want to know if that was my husband. I certainly would be very hurt if I later found out that someone I considered a friend knew about it and didn't tell me.

I would drop it after that and let the wife decides what she wants to do. Doing more would come come across as meddling.
I do not believe telling someone that their spouse is cheating would ruin a marriage because a marriage can only be ruined from within.

People have no problems telling parents their children badly behaved but are hesitant telling someone that their husband or wife was unfaithful.
Bad behaviors are bad behaviors. It doesn't matter who the offender is.

chanzep
12-13-2021, 06:15 PM
I would tell the wife. I wouldn't be surprised if she ghosts me after and stays with the husband. Women do this. But I would tell. I would be upset if someone didn't tell me.

Marina Starr
12-13-2021, 06:42 PM
Very highly that's why many women don't like telling. If a friend ghosted you after knowing the hard TRUTH about her husband then that isn't really a friend so that's a blessing not a loss. A friend wouldn't mistreat a friend.

Don't fault a friend for telling the truth, blame your husband for not respecting his marriage.



I would tell the wife. I wouldn't be surprised if she ghosts me after and stays with the husband. Women do this. But I would tell. I would be upset if someone didn't tell me.

moneybags
12-13-2021, 07:30 PM
I don't mind if a man is conservative as long as he is liberal with his cash.

I'm a liberal Hoe that loves conservative money. #liberalhoe #conservativemoney

LOL…I was thinking of you today I was thinking, “if men just want to fuck you, maybe that’s God’s way of telling you to sell pussy.” It’s a very profound teaching.

whirlerz
12-14-2021, 07:09 AM
As far as WWYD:

Very much a 'don't kill the messenger' sitch, very often the messenger does get 'killed',

ravenskyy
12-14-2021, 01:36 PM
Fuck. Men. All Men. In the ass. With a big, black dildo. NO LUBE.

whirlerz
12-14-2021, 01:53 PM
Fuck. Men. All Men. In the ass. With a big, black dildo. NO LUBE.

LOL, I heard that!

TheBrownFox
12-14-2021, 01:54 PM
I would tell the wife. I wouldn't be surprised if she ghosts me after and stays with the husband. Women do this. But I would tell. I would be upset if someone didn't tell me.



This. I would want to know, and I'd be upset if someone (claiming to be my friend/loved one) didn't tell me.

Staci
12-14-2021, 03:10 PM
This. I would want to know, and I'd be upset if someone (claiming to be my friend/loved one) didn't tell me.
I would find that to be a difficult decision.

If I were the wronged wife and decided to give him a second chance, I would probably avoid the friend who told me because 1) I would be embarrass that she knew, 2) not want to have to justify my decision to her, and 3) since she told me, I would wonder who else she may have told.

Maybe off topic, but I have wondered in the past what I would do if I learned my spouse had cheated. I decided that unless I was prepared to leave, I wouldn't confront him. If I confronted him and stayed, then to me it would be almost like giving him permission. He might think, 'She caught me cheating before and didn't leave, so I'm not all that concerned about it. "

Marina Starr
12-14-2021, 03:44 PM
I feel it's okay to question who else your friend may told if she told you about your husband.

That isn't and shouldn't be a big issue. The big issue should be if she told you your husband was cheating, who else she may not know your husband may be cheating with and how long has he been cheating. Men don't usually just cheat one time with one person.

If she doesn't tell you then someone else would or you will eventually find out.

I would also say if a friend avoided me because I told her about her husband I would be more than okay with it because that kind of friendship doesn't work for me.
I understand very few people are as blatant as I am but I consider friends an option not a necessity.

miss.a.p1600
12-14-2021, 07:29 PM
Fuck. Men. All Men. In the ass. With a big, black dildo. NO LUBE.

N n the dark so they can’t see it coming

With the dildo that has BPA plastic so they get poisoned while doing it

Lololol!!!

TheBrownFox
12-14-2021, 07:58 PM
I would find that to be a difficult decision.

If I were the wronged wife and decided to give him a second chance, I would probably avoid the friend who told me because 1) I would be embarrass that she knew, 2) not want to have to justify my decision to her, and 3) since she told me, I would wonder who else she may have told.



There are a lot of people who have this "It ain't my business, so I'm staying out of it" stance on it, and wouldn't even say anything to their friend. That would bother me. I'd be grateful to the person who told me...as long as they weren't being all "See? I warned you about him, but you didn't listen!" obnoxious about it. Lol.

I think it's important that friends/family members not be insensitive about the situation. Like NOT making dumbass remarks like "Gurrrl, I KNOW you ain't in here crying over that man!" Lol. *Eye roll* I'm sorry, but I hate when women do this shit. Um...it's called having emotions. I get the whole 'Not wanting to see your girl mope around and be miserable' thing. But if you need to cry...yell...hit a punching bag...let that shit out. I was watching a great "State of Mind" YouTube interview (with General Hospital actor Maurice Benard and other co-stars) where they were talking about how they hate it when people always tell other people "Don't cry" or "Stop crying." Um...why tf are you telling someone don't cry? Because it makes YOU uncomfortable? So leave the room then. Lol. It's my house, and I'll cry if I want to. :P Better to cry in the privacy of your home...than to bottle that shit up and wind up breaking down at work, and your boss saying they "need to speak with you in their office." Haha.

Sorry, I went off on a lil' tangent there.....

Staci
12-14-2021, 08:45 PM
There are a lot of people who have this "It ain't my business, so I'm staying out of it" stance on it, and wouldn't even say anything to their friend. That would bother me. I'd be grateful to the person who told me...as long as they weren't being all "See? I warned you about him, but you didn't listen!" obnoxious about it. Lol.

I guess I am jaded because I feel that all men will cheat given the opportunity/think they can get away with it.