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ericachronic
08-19-2021, 11:47 AM
https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/onlyfans-ban-pornography-sexually-explicit-1235044904/

justsometwat
08-19-2021, 12:00 PM
I have seen one person link an article that says this means no hardcore BDSM or things already against the rules, but there has not been a source for this information so I don't think it is correct.

What the fuck are they thinking?? They will go the way of tumblr for this.

laurielegs
08-19-2021, 12:09 PM
AVN Stars here I come.

OnlyFans are going to lose so much money doing this. Stupid.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-19-2021, 12:32 PM
I have seen one person link an article that says this means no hardcore BDSM or things already against the rules, but there has not been a source for this information so I don't think it is correct.

What the fuck are they thinking?? They will go the way of tumblr for this.

IDK, I think it may be true because they're completely ignoring the comments on Twitter.
If it were false they should have addressed it by now. Currently their pinned tweet is about a contest for mainstream content creators.

https://twitter.com/OnlyFans/status/1412411307215761413?s=19

I don't want it to be true. It's just that I'm no longer surprised when it comes to this industry. You always need a backup... even for your backup.

ericachronic
08-19-2021, 12:38 PM
Yeah twitter is going crazy over it...you would think they would be in PR mode to stop the false rumours if it wasnt true.

kamiliam
08-19-2021, 12:39 PM
Celebs are going to still be able to sell their highly edited barely see anything nudes there, just not us.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 12:46 PM
AVN Stars here I come.

OnlyFans are going to lose so much money doing this. Stupid.

Leo owns both of those companies.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 12:53 PM
The Banks & billing companies are facing lots of pressure from Christian groups. OF is simply not given a choice in this matter. It is either play by the bank's rule or don't have a way to bill customers or pay content creators. Look they have already pulled the banking from Pornhub, this is another major win for those Christian groups.

Now it will be easier to apply that pressure to other adult platforms & companies.

OF is bringing in $12 Billion a year, there are plenty of content creators that don't do hardcore that do well on that site. Even if it made half that money, a $6 billion a year company is still very successful no matter what it does.

I only do solo stuff on my OF and do very well, moved away from hardcore over 5 years ago for many reasons. One of them is seeing how conservatives would start winning these battles.

Yes, you can migrate to another site, Fancentro is ready for the influx. And Stan has always been a stand up guy to me. Eventually, all porn companies will be pushed in the same way. On the other hand, sell your hardcore at a premium price, cause it is about to become harder for horny men to get it.

TheBrownFox
08-19-2021, 12:55 PM
That fucking SUCKS! Well dudes will just have to venture outside of OnlyFans, and start checking out our stuff on other platforms then, such as MFC Share, ManyVids, IWantClips, Clips4Sale, etc.

Damn shame...

Maybe that MV Crush Club feature on ManyVids will become more popular now.

laurielegs
08-19-2021, 01:11 PM
I knew they were moving toward this but I really just thought they would allow us to stay but hide our stuff and not promote it, sort of a soft shadowban, but nope!

I should have known better. Still surprised they actually are going to ban it all.

I love AVNStars because they are made for and by the adult industry and traffic does seem to be picking up there. They have a lot of cool features (like groups for different fetishes you can make on your account - like for example findom - that your fans who want that can join and it keeps those who don't want that particular content from having to sift through it). Groups are sort of a fanclub within a fanclub. You can also block someone and set a price to be unblocked which is awesome lol.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 01:20 PM
Leo owns MFC, OF & AvnStars Now, no hardcore allowed on MFC, guess we will have to wait and see if this will apply to AVNStars too.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/261183/onlyfans-releases-official-statement-about-upcoming-ban-on-sexually-explicit-conduct

But within the next few years all adult platforms will be targeted to remove hardcore content or lose their ability to get paid. It is the banking system making these decisions and crypto is less than 1% of all porn sales.

laurielegs
08-19-2021, 01:36 PM
Leo owns MFC, OF & AvnStars Now, no hardcore allowed on MFC, guess we will have to wait and see if this will apply to AVNStars too.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/261183/onlyfans-releases-official-statement-about-upcoming-ban-on-sexually-explicit-conduct

But within the next few years all adult platforms will be targeted to remove hardcore content or lose their ability to get paid. It is the banking system making these decisions and crypto is less than 1% of all porn sales.

Wow. I had no idea Leo owned both.

Since AVNStars are geared toward porn I would hope they don't follow the same path.

alexiarose22
08-19-2021, 01:48 PM
Is solo stuff with toys included in sexually explicit content? Does anyone have experience with justforfans?

naomi_doll
08-19-2021, 01:56 PM
I have seen one person link an article that says this means no hardcore BDSM or things already against the rules, but there has not been a source for this information so I don't think it is correct.

What the fuck are they thinking?? They will go the way of tumblr for this.


XBIZ is saying they received a statement from Onlyfans - https://www.xbiz.com/news/261177/onlyfans-to-ban-explicit-sexual-content-starting-in-october

JessRyan
08-19-2021, 01:57 PM
Pornhub went down due to these underage girls being exploited

their stories are here: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/opinion/sunday/pornhub-rape-trafficking.html
and here: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-51391981

JessRyan
08-19-2021, 02:01 PM
You always need to stay several steps ahead of the game. Glad I stayed solo. Less to worry about and count on

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 02:08 PM
If you have hardcore content, start raising your prices on the older stuff already published & place a premium price on new hardcore. Next few years are going to be interesting to say the least.

Never place all your eggs in one basket, always look to building up a sfw revenue like gaming or youtube or affiliate work like Minnie does.

We all just have to adapt & figure out a way to take these hits & then turn them to our advantage. As a woman who has been in the sex industry for 32 years, I adapt & thrive.

"I believe in censorship. I made a fortune off of it." ~ Mae West

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 02:53 PM
Leo owns MFC, OF & AvnStars Now, no hardcore allowed on MFC, guess we will have to wait and see if this will apply to AVNStars too.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/261183/onlyfans-releases-official-statement-about-upcoming-ban-on-sexually-explicit-conduct

But within the next few years all adult platforms will be targeted to remove hardcore content or lose their ability to get paid. It is the banking system making these decisions and crypto is less than 1% of all porn sales.

forgive my ignorance but what actually counts as "hardcore" in these scenarios? particularly in a solo setting. are we talking about *anything* penetrative? toys? orgasms? basically anything pornographic? what specifically isn't allowed on MFC anymore? (i am only on Streamate, but am very curious)

are you suggesting that within a few years, nothing that is effectively pornographic will be allowed on cam or subscription sites, even behind a paywall? (i know it's hypothetical, but i'm trying to get a grasp on all of this)

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 02:58 PM
forgive my ignorance but what actually counts as "hardcore" in these scenarios? particularly in a solo setting. are we talking about *anything* penetrative? toys? orgasms? basically anything pornographic? what specifically isn't allowed on MFC anymore? (i am only on Streamate, but am very curious)

are you suggesting that within a few years, nothing that is effectively pornographic will be allowed on cam or subscription sites, even behind a paywall?

In general, hardcore means anything with a hard on showing. Softcore was sex acts but no dick showing. We all have to wait & see how the Banking industry defines it.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 03:00 PM
Now I saw this thread on Twitter https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1428442523001831425?s=20 And if what he says is true, the banks threatened to pull all payment abilities & a lifetime ban for the owner and admin from ever being able to get billing or paying people.

Since this is such a serious threat and implemented, it can easily be done to all adult sites.

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 03:28 PM
Now I saw this thread on Twitter https://twitter.com/rahaeli/status/1428442523001831425?s=20 And if what he says is true, the banks threatened to pull all payment abilities & a lifetime ban for the owner and admin from ever being able to get billing or paying people.

Since this is such a serious threat and implemented, it can easily be done to all adult sites.

he says this as a response to a comment further down the thread:

"Other porn sites use so-called "bulletproof" providers that charge a high fee and put you in Visa/MC's highest risk tier (adult content = loads of chargebacks). They can do that because they're classified as "adult video". The interactive nature of OF has made people pressure Visa/MC into reclassifying OF as "sex work", not "adult video". "Adult video", a merchant bank can provide services to, albeit expensively; "sex work", they can't."

i get that this is a whole discussion about recategorizing different types of adult media, but doesn't this imply that as long as adult sites properly implement high risk CC processing, then they should be fine?

i personally don't see why "sex work" and "adult video" should be separated if the chargeback risks are effectively the same, which seems to be a major point here. he notes that the "interactive nature" of OF has been considered -- but how is that any different from live cam sites, which i assume also use the highest risk tier of payment processing?

Bahuba
08-19-2021, 04:16 PM
Leo owns MFC, OF & AvnStars Now, no hardcore allowed on MFC, guess we will have to wait and see if this will apply to AVNStars too.

https://www.xbiz.com/news/261183/onlyfans-releases-official-statement-about-upcoming-ban-on-sexually-explicit-conduct

But within the next few years all adult platforms will be targeted to remove hardcore content or lose their ability to get paid. It is the banking system making these decisions and crypto is less than 1% of all porn sales.

He owns a lot of shit - He's like the new Fabian Thylmann.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 04:32 PM
He owns a lot of shit - He's like the new Fabian Thylmann.

Yes, he does. One way to grow is to buy out other companies. It is also how all business evolve, look at how many companies Facebook has bought out like Instagram & WhatsApp.

Stan owns model Centro, Fan Centro & now Clips4Sale.

Mindgeek owns most of the tubes, Brazzers, Twisties and many other porn sites. Xvids owns Reality Kings and such.

It is important to me to know who owns the companies I work for, to keep track of it all. Helps me predict what is next in the industry. Also so I can diversify my income, so if one company goes down I can concentrate on another.

But in the end, it is the Visa & Mastercard that rules over all of us. They are our Landlords.

indiegirl
08-19-2021, 04:38 PM
I was just gonna post on this. I wonder what people are gonna do now if their sole content was porn.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 04:47 PM
I was just gonna post on this. I wonder what people are gonna do now if their sole content was porn.

Adapt to the new TOS or move to many of the other sites that are similar. Never be loyal to a site, be loyal to your customer base.

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 06:35 PM
Adapt to the new TOS or move to many of the other sites that are similar. Never be loyal to a site, be loyal to your customer base.

i don't disagree because you never know when a site might fail for all sorts of reasons. but honestly i think another big takeaway here is to never work for a site that isn't openly pro-adult-work / part of the adult industry. or at least be aware that if you do, it is a huge risk.

onlyfans has tried so hard to distance itself from the fact that everyone associates it with porn. they promote SFW creators and attempted to cultivate this "wholesome" atmosphere despite their blatant widespread association with sex and nudes. that behavior has always been a huge red flag, IMO. i'm not at all surprised that this happened.

i also don't necessarily think it implies anything about the potential outcomes of its competitors, like AVNFans. to me it seems like the reason OF is dealing with this ban and general controversy is because they refused to embrace the fact that they are absolutely a porn/adult platform, but they didn't want to take the proper legal and financial measures to be legit as an adult company (i.e. complying with FOSTA SESTA and high risk CC processing.)

Erika_Xstacy
08-19-2021, 07:47 PM
It will be interesting to see onlyfans status in a few months.
I was sold in onlyfans for “social media fans pay for” that meant sexy nudes and nothing hardcore..
We’ve come full circle.
they absolutely used porn but we knew this was happening.
companies build off us and toss us when mixed w mainstream.

Onlyfans has never felt “safe” for hardcore adult content
I was shocked when I did see hardcore on onlyfans.

eagle2
08-19-2021, 08:51 PM
The Banks & billing companies are facing lots of pressure from Christian groups. OF is simply not given a choice in this matter. It is either play by the bank's rule or don't have a way to bill customers or pay content creators. Look they have already pulled the banking from Pornhub, this is another major win for those Christian groups.

Now it will be easier to apply that pressure to other adult platforms & companies.

OF is bringing in $12 Billion a year, there are plenty of content creators that don't do hardcore that do well on that site. Even if it made half that money, a $6 billion a year company is still very successful no matter what it does.

I only do solo stuff on my OF and do very well, moved away from hardcore over 5 years ago for many reasons. One of them is seeing how conservatives would start winning these battles.

Yes, you can migrate to another site, Fancentro is ready for the influx. And Stan has always been a stand up guy to me. Eventually, all porn companies will be pushed in the same way. On the other hand, sell your hardcore at a premium price, cause it is about to become harder for horny men to get it.

It's $1.2 billion a year. According to AXIOS, they're doing this because they're having trouble finding investors.

https://www.axios.com/onlyfans-investors-struggle-9cc92523-6607-40ad-9893-4175e7966b52.html

eagle2
08-19-2021, 08:55 PM
But in the end, it is the Visa & Mastercard that rules over all of us. They are our Landlords.

Do you see any possibility of using cryptocurrency if you're not able to receive payments through Visa or Mastercard?

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 09:20 PM
Do you see any possibility of using cryptocurrency if you're not able to receive payments through Visa or Mastercard?

i keep seeing the statistic that crypto payments make up less than 1% of adult industry transactions. not sure how true that is, but considering that another stat says only 14% of American adults own crypto, that doesn't surprise me.

i think it's super unlikely that most guys will learn how to properly buy and perform a crypto transaction just to purchase porn, if they aren't otherwise involved in it.

plus on the model end i have a lot of concerns with crypto. one major point is anonymity so how do you prove the person buying your porn/cam show is actually 18 or over? also the obvious topic of the price fluctuating. people talk about stablecoins but honestly it's totally over my head. i don't want my paycheck randomly fluctuating in value. it's also a very specific tax situation.

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 09:31 PM
It's $1.2 billion a year. According to AXIOS, they're doing this because they're having trouble finding investors.

https://www.axios.com/onlyfans-investors-struggle-9cc92523-6607-40ad-9893-4175e7966b52.html

ugh, how do they expect to maintain their insane multi-billion dollar valuation if they cut all the porn out, which is clearly where 90%+ of their revenue comes from?

also if multiple top models are making over 6 figures a MONTH for them, why do they need extra money from investors anyway? where is their current cash flow going? the whole thing just screams poor financial planning to me.

bottom line - they don't want to comply with being a legitimate porn/adult company, which is a HUGE mistake. once they officially cut the paid porn subscription model out they will crumble to nothing and no investor is going to give a shit. everyone associates onlyfans with porn. it's cultural at this point. there is no way in hell they're going to successfully rebrand the same name for vanilla/SFW creators.

eagle2
08-19-2021, 09:45 PM
i keep seeing the statistic that crypto payments make up less than 1% of adult industry transactions. not sure how true that is, but considering that another stat says only 14% of American adults own crypto, that doesn't surprise me.

i think it's super unlikely that most guys will learn how to properly buy and perform a crypto transaction just to purchase porn, if they aren't otherwise involved in it.

plus on the model end i have a lot of concerns with crypto. one major point is anonymity so how do you prove the person buying your porn/cam show is actually 18 or over? also the obvious topic of the price fluctuating. people talk about stablecoins but honestly it's totally over my head. i don't want my paycheck randomly fluctuating in value. it's also a very specific tax situation.

If Visa and Mastercard allow payments, then it's definitely better to get paid by credit card. I just mentioned crypto as an option, if Visa and Mastercard were to refuse to allow payments to sites with adult content.

I'm not very familiar with camming, so sorry if this is a dumb question, but are content owners/distributors responsible for verifying viewers are over 18? Most sites I've come across with adult content, have nothing more than a prompt asking if you're over 18, if that.

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 09:56 PM
If Visa and Mastercard allow payments, then it's definitely better to get paid by credit card. I just mentioned crypto as an option, if Visa and Mastercard were to refuse to allow payments to sites with adult content.

I'm not very familiar with camming, so sorry if this is a dumb question, but are content owners/distributors responsible for verifying viewers are over 18? Most sites I've come across with adult content, have nothing more than a prompt asking if you're over 18, if that.

with camming, you can't tip or pay for a show without a credit card on file. the credit card itself is intended to act as age verification because you technically shouldn't be able to have one unless you're 18+. but of course there is the issue of fraudulent/stolen cards, or kids who steal their parents CCs, etc. it's certainly not foolproof.

i've been wondering if all of this will result in some type of regulation where buyers on porn/cam sites will have to upload IDs just like the models do, to cross-verify their age and name with their actual CC info. personally i wouldn't be opposed to this but i could see how it may deter a lot of customers to have that kind of data on file.

eagle2
08-19-2021, 10:03 PM
Can you pay for a show with a debit card? You don't have to be 18+ to get a debit card.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 10:07 PM
i keep seeing the statistic that crypto payments make up less than 1% of adult industry transactions. not sure how true that is, but considering that another stat says only 14% of American adults own crypto, that doesn't surprise me.

i think it's super unlikely that most guys will learn how to properly buy and perform a crypto transaction just to purchase porn, if they aren't otherwise involved in it.

plus on the model end i have a lot of concerns with crypto. one major point is anonymity so how do you prove the person buying your porn/cam show is actually 18 or over? also the obvious topic of the price fluctuating. people talk about stablecoins but honestly it's totally over my head. i don't want my paycheck randomly fluctuating in value. it's also a very specific tax situation.

Not only age verification issues and I agree about the fluctuation of it's value. Most people see it as an investment rather than for purchases of any product.

But a model who did take it was visited at her home by the Feds who accused her of money laundering.

Porn hub has tried several times over the past 5 years to make crypto & porn a thing and failed. They tried launching their own cryto coin & it failed. They are trying to accept all crypto as a payment now and still Modelhub is a failure.

eagle2
08-19-2021, 10:11 PM
Not only age verification issues and I agree about the fluctuation of it's value. Most people see it as an investment rather than for purchases of any product.

But a model who did take it was visited at her home by the Feds who accused her of money laundering.

Porn hub has tried several times over the past 5 years to make crypto & porn a thing and failed. They tried launching their own cryto coin & it failed. They are trying to accept all crypto as a payment now and still Modelhub is a failure.

Do you see any other alternatives, if Visa and Mastercard were to prohibit payments for adult content with their cards?

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 10:19 PM
Do you see any possibility of using cryptocurrency if you're not able to receive payments through Visa or Mastercard?

How would OF or any porn company do payroll with an unstable currency? Why would I customer pay $40 one day and the next it could be $5? Our rent, house, car payments, electric bills are not going to fluctuate in how much we have to pay them.

Say you work hard to expect a paycheck of $3000 to pay your monthly bills only to have some electric car owner post a tweet and then your paycheck will only be $1000. Then how do you come up with the other $2000 to pay your monthly bills?

How do we keep such huge companies from manipulating the crypto market and ripping the performers off?

There are no alternatives, once a company & all of it's owners & CEOs are banned from Visa/Mastercard they are done in EVERY industry. It also means a ban from all banking since all banks use Visa/MC for their debit cards.

kamiliam
08-19-2021, 10:22 PM
There needs to be as much pressure put on the cc companies to treat us as a legal business as there has been from moral majority to treat us all as traffickers. There is bound to be shit takes from the general public, but this is now a major story. At the least some people will be able to see this issue for what it is and they have platforms to make some waves. The credit card companies are a business first and don’t want negative media attention. That is like the only thing we can do.

eagle2
08-19-2021, 10:26 PM
A top Federal Reserve official raised eyebrows in the financial services world last week by saying that the central bank is stepping up development of a plan that could result in the issuance of a digitized version of the U.S. dollar.

https://www.voanews.com/economy-business/us-mulls-launching-digital-dollar

If the US goes through with this, it could solve the problem of receiving payment and the issue with fluctuation.

Sam38g
08-19-2021, 10:32 PM
Here is a news story on how much the site makes & a break down of memberships, tips & such.
https://www.axios.com/onlyfans-investors-struggle-9cc92523-6607-40ad-9893-4175e7966b52.html

Erika_Xstacy
08-19-2021, 10:33 PM
https://twitter.com/cal_gif/status/1428481211551391747?s=21


Interesting….

anonamiss
08-19-2021, 10:56 PM
https://twitter.com/cal_gif/status/1428481211551391747?s=21


Interesting….

i've seen several OF support responses to creators/models floating all over twitter today. it reminds me of when Streamate was dealing with the frenzy of AB-5 and all the california models (me included) freaking out because we didn't have direct information about our new employment status. i effectively got a similar "don't worry about it" type of response from general tech support at first. then i reached out to liz and got a more direct answer, where she effectively told me "next week we'll be sending out an email with more clarity on the situation" basically solidifying that something was indeed going to change. (and she wrote a fair bit of detail to me as well.)

i don't know if i'm allowed to post a direct link for model privacy rules but i will note that a very high ranking OnlyFans model/ex-camgirl tweeted this today:
"My personal contact at onlyfans confirmed that the statement circulating about onlyfans banning explicit content is indeed correct, and to expect a TOS update soon"

Erika_Xstacy
08-19-2021, 11:17 PM
i've seen several OF support responses to creators/models floating all over twitter today. it reminds me of when Streamate was dealing with the frenzy of AB-5 and all the california models (me included) freaking out because we didn't have direct information about our new employment status. i effectively got a similar "don't worry about it" type of response from general tech support at first. then i reached out to liz and got a more direct answer, where she effectively told me "next week we'll be sending out an email with more clarity on the situation" basically solidifying that something was indeed going to change. (and she wrote a fair bit of detail to me as well.)

i don't know if i'm allowed to post a direct link for model privacy rules but i will note that a very high ranking OnlyFans model/ex-camgirl tweeted this today:
"My personal contact at onlyfans confirmed that the statement circulating about onlyfans banning explicit content is indeed correct, and to expect a TOS update soon"
We are in the middle of a storm w this.
I don’t think it’s as bad as Streamate. I do great on onlyfans but that greatness can easily be moved but Streamate would be like finding a new cam home.


I reached out to OF myself after seeing what i linked
Onlyfans communicates great but I don’t expect that with all the fuckery right now.

BambiCutie
08-19-2021, 11:47 PM
Onlyfans is going to crash and burn, as they really shot themselves by doing this shit.
Also the comments via social media on the matter really describe how nasty and hypocritical people can be.

AChildOfBoredom
08-20-2021, 02:49 AM
Also the comments via social media on the matter really describe how nasty and hypocritical people can be.

Absolutely. I’m not affected by it, but I know people who will be (really, who have been since Bella Thorne’s stunt). I’d think it should be surreal to look through someone’s Twitter profile and see retweets of posts mocking those on OF made concurrently with retweets of posts for new postings on various sites, but it’s all too normal.

justsometwat
08-20-2021, 07:32 AM
I saw another person say they spoke with Leo directly and he said they were making these changes. At this point it's best to wait and see what OnlyFans actually releases as a statement. Unless it comes directly from them it could be incorrect information. There's a lot of stuff contradicting previous statements so who knows?

I just think it's odd that OF hasn't released any kind of official statement yet. This is info is gaining a lot of traction and it's in their best interest to say SOMETHING about what's happening.

eagle2
08-20-2021, 12:13 PM
How would OF or any porn company do payroll with an unstable currency? Why would I customer pay $40 one day and the next it could be $5? Our rent, house, car payments, electric bills are not going to fluctuate in how much we have to pay them.

Say you work hard to expect a paycheck of $3000 to pay your monthly bills only to have some electric car owner post a tweet and then your paycheck will only be $1000. Then how do you come up with the other $2000 to pay your monthly bills?

How do we keep such huge companies from manipulating the crypto market and ripping the performers off?

There are no alternatives, once a company & all of it's owners & CEOs are banned from Visa/Mastercard they are done in EVERY industry. It also means a ban from all banking since all banks use Visa/MC for their debit cards.

If you convert your cryptocurrency to dollars immediately after receiving it, there probably won't be much fluctuation between what you get paid and the dollar amount you convert it to.

Sam38g
08-20-2021, 01:10 PM
If you convert your cryptocurrency to dollars immediately after receiving it, there probably won't be much fluctuation between what you get paid and the dollar amount you convert it to.

And you still would need to convert it into a bank account or such in order to pay your bills. The goal is to get all sex workers & the sites we work on made illegal. AS IN No ability to own a credit card or have a bank account.

Crypto is also under lots of scrutiny & regulation for the next several years. It is NOT the answer to this problem.

More hoops you make a customer jump through to buy your product more likely they will NOT buy at all. Conversion rates would fall into barely anything at all. The ease of signing up and being able to add another OF page as many or as few as you want has helped OF sign up 130 million customers over the past few years. So telling the 84% of customers who don't own crypto to go set up a wallet, figure out which crypto works best for you and then once that is approved. Which how long will that take? Then you can buy porn.

You have lost your sale pretty much at that point. Customers like transactions to be simple, easy & fast. I have cancelled many of transactions on different retail sites because of all hoops I had to go through in order to buy something.

Crypto is not trust worth as a billing company, payment processor or a payment method to all content creators. Crypto can fall in value within minutes. It is NOT stable enough to use for this purpose. Cyrpto is a violent risky investment scheme... It is like saying pay me in Disney Stock or Ford Shares or gold bullion or an EFT instead of U.S. Currency. And if that crypto or stock goes bankrupt then all the holders of it are screwed.

Then the site has to have all kinds of accountants for accepting payments & then even more for paying out performers.

And we can not pretend like the crypto market isn't full of scam & con artist, full of pump & dump day traders. A currency that is easily manipulated at a whim by a hedge fund or group of assholes. If your wallet gets hi-jacked or goes to nothing it is not FDIC insured.

Crytpo is an investment backed by NOTHING! it isn't real. It is something a handful of people around the world choose to give value to at this time. I have stock in Disney. Disney owns ABC, Marvel Comics, Star Wars, Cruise Line, theme parks and many more assets and merchandizing deals. Disney is 97 years old, the Disney stock I bought in my 20s has split 4 times is worth a small fortune. Crypto does not have that kind of history or gravitas for me.

Crytpo looks like a shell game to me. How many Cryptos will be created in the next 5 years? Crytpo at this point is a mad scientist experiment that looks like some Disney villain created.

AuroraJade
08-20-2021, 01:15 PM
If you convert your cryptocurrency to dollars immediately after receiving it, there probably won't be much fluctuation between what you get paid and the dollar amount you convert it to.

Yes this 100%. Adult industry not adapting to crypto is just because of people / customers that dont want to adapt/read into something. Crypto and adult industry is an amazing combo. Yes, it has fees, but high risk banking with fiat money also comes with fees that are calculated in the price.

With crypto you can actually get paid DIRECTLY and almost INSTANT. No chargebacks possible. And anonymous. Except for the small fees you pay to your exchange nobody profits from YOUR work. And those fees are pretty similar to the fees you pay at for example Paxum.

I offer direct crypto payments too but a lot of guys just don't trust it. I think thats too bad because its an ideal solution.

And if you dont want to invest it, you can sell immediately and transfer to a bank account immediately, or at a later moment. If you want to invest, you can hold the money in BTC or ETH, those have been going up in the long run and that won't change probably.

If you ask me, I think Onlyfans or the company that owns it is preparing for an IPO and investors forced them to cut off the adult entertainment part of their business. A porn business on the Nasdaq doesn't 'look that good'. An interactive online platform without porn looks better to them.

TheBrownFox
08-20-2021, 01:16 PM
Meanwhile...lol.

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Might have to finally check out their MV Crush feature.