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xxxGothBarbie
01-04-2022, 09:32 AM
Not 100% sure if I caught it a couple weeks ago or if it were just the effects of the booster shot but I had a mild fever, chills & a slight cough with weird throat thing with body aches the day after I got my booster for 2 days or so then I ended up stuffy feeling with loss of taste & smell for about a week. I never got tested bc I refused to wait in a 3 hr line around potentially other sick ppl so I stayed in & isolated myself until it went away.
moneybags
01-04-2022, 09:34 AM
Got some on Amazon for $17.99 shipping on 2-11 days.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KZ6TBNY?psc=1&smid=A3CR6COA8J61N&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp
I’m pretty sure I’ll get sick at work, but at this point I just have to live my life. I’ve read a lot about it and we will all get exposed to covid at some point. It’s just about protecting the vulnerable, so I mask up on public places outside of work. I’ve accepted my fate. I’m vaccinated, boosted, and taking vitamin D and Zinc. That’s about all I can control.i have to weight the pros and cons at this point and just choose from the lesser of all evils.
John Campbell on the variant
https://youtu.be/1avXjzr1xnc
If you are quarantining I suggest watching this South Park episode
https://youtu.be/y0zlo44sdUs
TheBrownFox
01-04-2022, 11:30 AM
I just got back from Urgent Care, and I tested positive for Covid-19.
miss.a.p1600
01-04-2022, 11:32 AM
^^Yikes!.....Please take care of yourself and praying for a speedy recovery for you
miss.a.p1600
01-04-2022, 11:35 AM
Not 100% sure if I caught it a couple weeks ago or if it were just the effects of the booster shot but I had a mild fever, chills & a slight cough with weird throat thing with body aches the day after I got my booster for 2 days or so then I ended up stuffy feeling with loss of taste & smell for about a week. I never got tested bc I refused to wait in a 3 hr line around potentially other sick ppl so I stayed in & isolated myself until it went away.
If you had a loss of taste that is one of the common reactions from Covid so it sounds like you contracted it right around the time you got your booster shot (and unfortunately before your booster could provide more immunity)
*I'm not a licensed physician though......so just my opinion based on what you've said
Anyhow glad youre back to feeling better again.
xxxGothBarbie
01-04-2022, 11:42 AM
If you had a loss of taste that is one of the common reactions from Covid so it sounds like you contracted it right around the time you got your booster shot (and unfortunately before your booster could provide more immunity)
*I'm not a licensed physician though......so just my opinion based on what you've said
Anyhow glad youre back to feeling better again.
Thanks :) Ya I had a tiny bit of smell & taste but not much for like a week. It's back now thankfully.
xxxGothBarbie
01-04-2022, 11:42 AM
I just got back from Urgent Care, and I tested positive for Covid-19.
I wish you a speedy recovery girl <3
moneybags
01-04-2022, 03:30 PM
Get well soon brownfox and gothbarbie.
xxxGothBarbie
01-04-2022, 03:32 PM
Get well soon brownfox and gothbarbie.
Thanks 💟 I've been better since before New Years Eve.
eagle2
01-04-2022, 05:40 PM
Welp I got it - tested positive yesterday, vaxxed and boosted. I had a great new years eve / day too. Now I feel "man sick" which means I have a slight sore throat, scratchy cough and fatigue, but I am going to milk this for all it's worth and moan and groan a lot.
I know I got it on a plane over the holidays. If you fly, wear an N95. I wore a standard "blue".
But seriously, Omicron does not care if you are vaxxed, get boosted and wear your N95, and prepare to get it.
I'm probably going to avoid flying until the surge goes down. Hope you are better soon.
eagle2
01-04-2022, 05:41 PM
I just got back from Urgent Care, and I tested positive for Covid-19.
Sorry to hear that. Hope you get well soon!
eagle2
01-04-2022, 05:42 PM
Thanks 💟 I've been better since before New Years Eve.
Glad you're better and glad you got vaccinated.
LoveyD
01-04-2022, 06:22 PM
Aw man, I hope everyone with Covid feels better soon. Take good care of yourselves. <3
Marina Starr
01-04-2022, 06:37 PM
I just started wearing mask again. I can't police other people to do the right thing so I just do what makes me comfortable.
My neighbor is Polish, anti vaccines. She'd always take her children to a pediatrician that would treat children without vaccines. Most pediatricians do not do that.
No one in the neighborhood would dare to ask her about vaccines but I will next time I get the opportunity. I normalize asking people if they're fully vaccinated. If they're offended or upset then that tells me they're not.
LoveyD
01-04-2022, 07:57 PM
ER rooms are now getting filled to capacity again. In CA we have a mask mandate in place. I wonder if there will be another lockdown. So many ppl are getting sick, places can't stay open bc ppl are too sick to work.
WendiStarr
01-05-2022, 11:35 AM
They're saying that people should be wearing the N95 masks now instead of the cloth/cotton ones. I don't go anywhere other than to ob/gyn appointments. I see all the medical staff there wearing those, even the pharmacist at the pharmacy located in the same building. Good luck finding any N95 masks anywhere though. It seems they're all sold out and buying online takes freaking forever with shipping.
indiegirl
01-05-2022, 01:19 PM
I swear to god if the one person in my life dies from this fucking vaccine I'm gonna lose it. They can't literally get out of bed, coughing, for their 3rd shot. UGHHH I just am shocked. Tried to be as polite as possible and nice on the phone.
eagle2
01-05-2022, 04:38 PM
I swear to god if the one person in my life dies from this fucking vaccine I'm gonna lose it. They can't literally get out of bed, coughing, for their 3rd shot. UGHHH I just am shocked. Tried to be as polite as possible and nice on the phone.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope he gets well soon.
Bahuba
01-06-2022, 06:24 AM
They canceled Sundance ... this variant is serious. I had my room reserved and the hotel wanted, I kid you not, $15,000 to cancel. I sent my positive diagnosis to my lawyer and had him deal with it; all resolved. So many conferences and events are being delayed or canceled.
It feels like I haven't gotten any worse, so maybe I'll stay lucky and it is just like a bad cold.
SnuffleUffleGrass
01-06-2022, 07:16 AM
I just got back from Urgent Care, and I tested positive for Covid-19.
You're in my thoughts girl. Get better soon.
Eric Stoner
01-06-2022, 08:27 AM
They're saying that people should be wearing the N95 masks now instead of the cloth/cotton ones. I don't go anywhere other than to ob/gyn appointments. I see all the medical staff there wearing those, even the pharmacist at the pharmacy located in the same building. Good luck finding any N95 masks anywhere though. It seems they're all sold out and buying online takes freaking forever with shipping.
How many times have I posted that the N-95 was the only really effective mask ?
Eric Stoner
01-06-2022, 08:32 AM
If you get vaccinated (and you should) you are really only protecting yourself. It will NOT prevent you from getting Covid. It will prevent you from getting seriously ill. With two shots AND a booster your chances of having to be hospitalized are very low. If you are otherwise healthy and not obese your chances of having to be hospitalized are microscopic. Likewise, vaccination does NOT prevent you from spreading Covid thus you should wear a good mask like the N-95.
Defense Secretary Austin was triple vaxxed , wore a mask and a face shield and he still contracted Covid. Well, he is obese but other than that seems healthy.
eagle2
01-06-2022, 12:56 PM
Vaccinations don't prevent you from getting covid, but if you're vaccinated, you're less likely to get it than if you're not. The infection rate for unvaccinated NYers is 6x higher than the rate for vaccinated NYers.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/ny-covid-hospitalizations-top-2021-surge-levels-as-omicron-drives-95-of-cases/3476250/
The risk of breakthrough infections more than quintupled on a rolling basis in December, while the risk of such hospitalizations nearly doubled; unvaccinated NYers are still getting infected at more than 6x the rate of vaccinated ones and hospitalized at 14x the rate of unvaccinated ones
moneybags
01-06-2022, 03:39 PM
I swear to god if the one person in my life dies from this fucking vaccine I'm gonna lose it. They can't literally get out of bed, coughing, for their 3rd shot. UGHHH I just am shocked. Tried to be as polite as possible and nice on the phone.
Holy shit! I’m sorry.
I hope everyone is gets better and stays healthy :) it seems like everyone has it!
My coaches just got over it or are getting over covid.
So far I haven’t gotten it-fingers crossed
laurielegs
01-06-2022, 03:50 PM
I just got back from Urgent Care, and I tested positive for Covid-19.
Oh damn. Rest as much as you can and try to eat well. I hope it's a mild case and you recover quickly.
indiegirl
01-07-2022, 12:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgK8p50uLik
This is too funny.
SnuffleUffleGrass
01-07-2022, 01:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgK8p50uLik
This is too funny.
Pure awesome.....................................
TheBrownFox
01-07-2022, 05:55 PM
A whole bunch of new requirements have been announced before my son (and other students) can return to the college campus for spring semester, including the requirement of KN95 masks. That shit ain't cheap, and my grandmom is gonna help me out by sending me some in the mail.
miss.a.p1600
01-08-2022, 10:24 AM
^kn95 masks can be reused (if you don’t touch them with unsanitized hands, if you’re not in the COVID unit or exposed to COVID, and you’re able to successfully social distance)
I’ve gotten a lot better at telling people to back up out of my 6ft of space. But sometimes there are so many crazy people walking around that it’s better to carry mace, a big bag, shopping cart or whatever to put a buffer between you and someone with no home training who gets too close.
TheBrownFox
01-08-2022, 12:23 PM
^kn95 masks can be reused (if you don’t touch them with unsanitized hands, if you’re not in the COVID unit or exposed to COVID, and you’re able to successfully social distance)
Yeah, all those rules for being able to reuse a mask is why he'll be sent back to campus with several. Lol.
TheBrownFox
01-08-2022, 10:31 PM
It is like a cold, but with mind altering (not kidding) properties, i.e. strange dreams.
This happened to me too the other night(s). Weird dream, as well as some shit I can't even explain where it felt like I was - as they say - "trippin'", and felt like I was in the air looking down at my body laying in the bed...or some shit. I really can't explain it, but it was wild.
Bahuba
01-09-2022, 06:33 AM
So I'm finally better - 7 days of something between a cold and the flu in virulence. Thanks to all my good exes and friends I got lots of soup. Compared to the early stages of COVID I feel pretty lucky I got this less harmful variant.
However .... this variant, by all accounts, seems to ignore the current crop of vaccines in terms of transmissibility, though not severity. That leads to the conclusion that in order to avoid it, the only options are N95 or KN, isolate, only interact outside and at a distance, etc.
I think if I was a parent I'd prefer my child to just get it, rather than grow up like that. Hugs to all the parents who have to navigate this impossible time.
moneybags
01-09-2022, 01:06 PM
^^^glad you’re okay
^Kinda like when our parents expose us to chicken pox before there was a vaccine. Get it young and hopefully they won’t have to worry as older adults? Hopefully that’s how all this works. Ugh.
All I know is I’m tired of the virus being politicized. It’s hard to know what to do. So far everyone at work has been okay, and we’re in a high risk environment. I’m not too worried about it. We’re all having to choose the lesser of evils right now.
miss.a.p1600
01-09-2022, 01:14 PM
So I'm finally better - 7 days of something between a cold and the flu in virulence. Thanks to all my good exes and friends I got lots of soup. Compared to the early stages of COVID I feel pretty lucky I got this less harmful variant.
However .... this variant, by all accounts, seems to ignore the current crop of vaccines in terms of transmissibility, though not severity. That leads to the conclusion that in order to avoid it, the only options are N95 or KN, isolate, only interact outside and at a distance, etc.
I think if I was a parent I'd prefer my child to just get it, rather than grow up like that. Hugs to all the parents who have to navigate this impossible time.
LOL!!!!
Definitely must have ended on good terms to trust them while you're down.
Good conclusion....
miss.a.p1600
01-10-2022, 05:53 AM
So I'm finally better - 7 days of something between a cold and the flu in virulence. Thanks to all my good exes and friends I got lots of soup. Compared to the early stages of COVID I feel pretty lucky I got this less harmful variant.
However .... this variant, by all accounts, seems to ignore the current crop of vaccines in terms of transmissibility, though not severity. That leads to the conclusion that in order to avoid it, the only options are N95 or KN, isolate, only interact outside and at a distance, etc.
I think if I was a parent I'd prefer my child to just get it, rather than grow up like that. Hugs to all the parents who have to navigate this impossible time.
Regarding the vaccines.
i wish our vaccines against COVID were more comprehensive and the COVID vaccines actually eliminated transmission, like the other plethora of required vaccines.
I’d probably home school if I had little kids. The pandemic is a lot to worry about for adults let alone little kids.
And “just getting it” might not be the best idea (although i see where you’re coming from because it’s less panic n worry) because there are some people who have long term effects from COVID, some life insurance companies won’t insure anyone who has ever had COVID because of the possibility of have lasting effects including increased rates of mortality, and just because a person has had it once doesn’t necessarily mean they’re totally immune from catching it again.
SnuffleUffleGrass
01-10-2022, 06:47 AM
LOL I just found out my friend's mom is probably going to pay the ultimate price for her cynicism about the COVID vaccines.
She can't say she was not warned. F*cking people man.
Eric Stoner
01-10-2022, 08:26 AM
Vaccination does prevent you from getting covid. Vaccinations aren't 100% effective, but if you're vaccinated, you're far less likely to get covid than if you're not. In New York, you're 6x more likely to get covid if you're not vaccinated and 14x more likely to get hospitalized.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/ny-covid-hospitalizations-top-2021-surge-levels-as-omicron-drives-95-of-cases/3476250/
Either you didn't READ what I posted or you chose to deliberately misunderstand it . You CERTAINLY did NOT read YOUR own link. The one YOU posted. Or if you did, you skipped over everything in it that CONFIRMS what I posted.
Just yesterday the head of the CDC confirmed that Covid vaccination does NOT prevent you from being infected with Covid. Nor does it prevent you from being infectious. Then why get vaccinated ? Because ( as I posted ) you are protecting yourself. If you are fully vaxxed ( 2 shots and a booster ) and you get infected chances are excellent that you will experience Zero to mild symptoms for a day or two at most. If you are fully vaxxed and do not have co-morbidities ( as I posted ) your chances of getting so sick as to require hospitalization are minute. There are indications but not definitive proof that the fully vaccinated are less infectious for a shorter period of time than those who are not. To be infectious you must have ACTIVE virus in your body ; not just the anti-bodies.
You yourself posted about the "risk of breakthrough infections ". What are they ? Infections of people who are VACCINATED. We agree ( I think , I hope ) that it is primarily the UNvaccinated who are going to the hospital with Covid. However , again according to the CDC , most people who test positive in the hospital went there for something other than Covid. I know for a fact and personal experience that EVERYONE who goes to a hospital gets tested for Covid.
This sort of misinformation and misunderstanding has serious consequences. We had two Supreme Court Justices ( Sotomayor and Breyer ) who recently spouted Covid facts and figures during oral argument in the Vaccine Mandate cases that ( according to the CDC ) were wildly inaccurate and totally unsupported by the actual numbers. Sotomayor claimed that 100,000 children were seriously ill with Covid ; "many on ventilators ". In fact only 3500 children are currently in the hospital with Covid and most are NOT on ventilators. However it is true that most were NOT vaccinated and also true that most had at least one co-morbidity. Obesity , diabetes and on chemo or otherwise immunosuppressed being the top three. Of all the children who died from Covid since the start of the pandemic in the U.S. almost all had at least one major co-morbidity.
miss.a.p1600
01-10-2022, 08:57 AM
LOL I just found out my friend's mom is probably going to pay the ultimate price for her cynicism about the COVID vaccines.
She can't say she was not warned. F*cking people man.
Sometimes you just can't win for losing....it sucks !
miss.a.p1600
01-10-2022, 09:08 AM
Either you didn't READ what I posted or you chose to deliberately misunderstand it . You CERTAINLY did NOT read YOUR own link. The one YOU posted. Or if you did, you skipped over everything in it that CONFIRMS what I posted.
Just yesterday the head of the CDC confirmed that Covid vaccination does NOT prevent you from being infected with Covid. Nor does it prevent you from being infectious. Then why get vaccinated ? Because ( as I posted ) you are protecting yourself. If you are fully vaxxed ( 2 shots and a booster ) and you get infected chances are excellent that you will experience Zero to mild symptoms for a day or two at most. If you are fully vaxxed and do not have co-morbidities ( as I posted ) your chances of getting so sick as to require hospitalization are minute. There are indications but not definitive proof that the fully vaccinated are less infectious for a shorter period of time than those who are not. To be infectious you must have ACTIVE virus in your body ; not just the anti-bodies.
You yourself posted about the "risk of breakthrough infections ". What are they ? Infections of people who are VACCINATED. We agree ( I think , I hope ) that it is primarily the UNvaccinated who are going to the hospital with Covid. However , again according to the CDC , most people who test positive in the hospital went there for something other than Covid. I know for a fact and personal experience that EVERYONE who goes to a hospital gets tested for
Covid.
This sort of misinformation and misunderstanding has serious consequences. We had two Supreme Court Justices ( Sotomayor and Breyer ) who recently spouted Covid facts and figures during oral argument in the Vaccine Mandate cases that ( according to the CDC ) were wildly inaccurate and totally unsupported by the actual numbers. Sotomayor claimed that 100,000 children were seriously ill with Covid ; "many on ventilators ". In fact only 3500 children are currently in the hospital with Covid and most are NOT on ventilators. However it is true that most were NOT vaccinated and also true that most had at least one co-morbidity. Obesity , diabetes and on chemo or otherwise immunosuppressed being the top three. Of all the children who died from Covid since the start of the pandemic in the U.S. almost all had at least one major co-morbidity.
As they should.
I think regular testing should be a thing now.....and even mandatory in many instances.
eagle2
01-10-2022, 10:28 AM
Either you didn't READ what I posted or you chose to deliberately misunderstand it . You CERTAINLY did NOT read YOUR own link. The one YOU posted. Or if you did, you skipped over everything in it that CONFIRMS what I posted.
Just yesterday the head of the CDC confirmed that Covid vaccination does NOT prevent you from being infected with Covid. Nor does it prevent you from being infectious. Then why get vaccinated ? Because ( as I posted ) you are protecting yourself. If you are fully vaxxed ( 2 shots and a booster ) and you get infected chances are excellent that you will experience Zero to mild symptoms for a day or two at most. If you are fully vaxxed and do not have co-morbidities ( as I posted ) your chances of getting so sick as to require hospitalization are minute. There are indications but not definitive proof that the fully vaccinated are less infectious for a shorter period of time than those who are not. To be infectious you must have ACTIVE virus in your body ; not just the anti-bodies.
You yourself posted about the "risk of breakthrough infections ". What are they ? Infections of people who are VACCINATED. We agree ( I think , I hope ) that it is primarily the UNvaccinated who are going to the hospital with Covid. However , again according to the CDC , most people who test positive in the hospital went there for something other than Covid. I know for a fact and personal experience that EVERYONE who goes to a hospital gets tested for
Covid.
This sort of misinformation and misunderstanding has serious consequences. We had two Supreme Court Justices ( Sotomayor and Breyer ) who recently spouted Covid facts and figures during oral argument in the Vaccine Mandate cases that ( according to the CDC ) were wildly inaccurate and totally unsupported by the actual numbers. Sotomayor claimed that 100,000 children were seriously ill with Covid ; "many on ventilators ". In fact only 3500 children are currently in the hospital with Covid and most are NOT on ventilators. However it is true that most were NOT vaccinated and also true that most had at least one co-morbidity. Obesity , diabetes and on chemo or otherwise immunosuppressed being the top three. Of all the children who died from Covid since the start of the pandemic in the U.S. almost all had at least one major co-morbidity.
Either you didn't READ what I posted or you chose to deliberately misunderstand it. You don't seem to understand the concept that getting vaccinated makes it less likely that you will get infected. You seem to think that because the vaccine is not 100% effective in preventing infections, that it makes no difference at all, when it comes to preventing infections. Again the infection rate for unvaccinated New Yorkers is more than 6 times higher than vaccinated New Yorkers. These figures imply that getting vaccinated does reduce the likelihood of getting infected. From the article I linked to:
Breakthrough infections soared by relative standards through December, with 149.5 of 100,000 fully vaccinated New Yorkers getting infected the week of Dec. 20. That compares with a rate of 28.3 breakthrough infections per 100,000 the week of Dec. 6. Unvaccinated New Yorkers are still more than six times as likely to get infected, with a 940.7 daily infection rate per 100,000 residents the week of Dec. 20. That's still a more than a four-fold increase from their risk of infection the week of Dec. 6.
To summarize:
149.5 of 100,000 fully vaccinated New Yorkers were infected the week of Dec. 20.
940.7 of 100,000 unvaccinated New Yorkers were infected the week of Dec. 20.
Based on these figures, getting vaccinated most likely does reduce the likelihood of infection. 149.5 is way lower than 940.7.
Eric Stoner
01-10-2022, 11:13 AM
First of all I have consistently stated that afaic everyone should get vaccinated unless there is sound medical reason not to. Vaccinated people are protected against becoming seriously ill with Covid.
According to the head of the CDC and numerous infectious disease experts, vaccination does NOT prevent Covid infection. I grant you it was clearly a grudging admission by Dr. Walensky but she did say it. If you want to dispute her interpretation of the data aka "the science" please be my guest. If it were not so then where are all these "breakthrough " infections among the VACCINATED coming from ? And the numbers in your link and other sources are based ONLY on people TESTED for Covid. Again Dr. Walenksy confirmed (again grudgingly and as sotto voce as she could ) that most people admitted into hospitals ( and/or seen in the E.R. ) who then tested positive for Covid did not go there for Covid symptoms. They were mostly trauma cases or had another illness or condition. Likewise the vaccinated who have ACTIVE virus ( not anti-bodies ) are infectious and can pass Covid along to others.
The good news is that Omicron is a much milder variant. The hospitalization rate for Omicron is much lower than other variants. More good news is that Omicron appears to be peaking. When you combine the vaccinated with those with natural immunity from having had Covid and now having the anti-bodies that have been shown to be superior and more long lasting than those generated by vaccination we are on the verge of "herd immunity". At least until the next variant comes along. Historically subsequent variants are less lethal but more infectious than their predecessors.
We can banter back and forth with facts and figures to no good purpose. Especially when we agree that people should get vaccinated or at least get tested regularly if they are not. The key numbers are hospitalizations and the death rate. Again, Walensky of the CDC conceded that both numbers are far, far lower than last year and certainly compared to 2020 numbers. She grudgingly admitted that Sotomayor's and Breyer's numbers were wildly inaccurate.
I also said that the numbers indicate that getting vaccinated makes for a diminished level of active virus for a shorter period of time than for unvaccinated people. However , we now have two studies ; one from Denmark and the other from Ontario that show higher rates of Covid infection among vaccinated people than among the unvaccinated. Afaic , it doesn't matter if those studies prove to be valid because it is clear that vaccinated people get less sick less often than those who are not. To date, those studies have NOT been peer reviewed and the authors clearly stated that further research and study was needed before conclusions could be drawn. That did not stop the factually delinquent "anti-vaxxer" crowd from overreacting.
Btw, I have searched but can't find any study that has numbers for vaccinated people who tested positive for Covid but had NO Symptoms. I have several fully vaxxed friends who tested positive but had ZERO symptoms . All I could find are the CDC recommendations for such cases where they cut the quarantine period for such people from 10 days to 5.
TheBrownFox
01-10-2022, 12:56 PM
Yes, I and other people on this forum are proof that you can be vaccinated and still get Covid. So let's please not spread misinformation, telling people that the vaccine prevents you from getting Covid...because that is not true.
Eric Stoner
01-10-2022, 01:03 PM
Yes, I and other people on this forum are proof that you can be vaccinated and still get Covid. So let's please not spread misinformation, telling people that the vaccine prevents you from getting Covid...because that is not true.
I think you are addressing Eagle and not me.
TheBrownFox
01-10-2022, 01:10 PM
I think you are addressing Eagle and not me.
I didn't say I was addressing you. Yes, I am addressing eagle, and agreeing with your "Covid vaccination does NOT prevent you from being infected with Covid" statement from post #87.
eagle2
01-10-2022, 02:51 PM
Yes, I and other people on this forum are proof that you can be vaccinated and still get Covid. So let's please not spread misinformation, telling people that the vaccine prevents you from getting Covid...because that is not true.
Yes, you can get covid if you've been vaccinated, but it reduces your chances, and you're also less likely to become seriously ill or die.
eagle2
01-10-2022, 02:56 PM
I'm fully vaccinated and boosted, but I still wear a mask and social distance.
TheBrownFox
01-10-2022, 03:42 PM
Yes, you can get covid if you've been vaccinated, but it reduces your chances, and you're also less likely to become seriously ill or die.
Everyone in this thread already knows this, as it's been repeated over and over and over again. My point is that your other post said otherwise (Probably just a typo on your part, and you meant to say "doesn't?"), so you should edit it.
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miss.a.p1600
01-10-2022, 04:04 PM
I'm fully vaccinated and boosted, but I still wear a mask and social distance.
I'm at the point now I don't trust going into peoples homes without a mask on (especially if I can't social distance if the house is too small)
eagle2
01-10-2022, 04:05 PM
Everyone in this thread already knows this, as it's been repeated over and over and over again. My point is that your other post said otherwise (Probably just a typo on your part, and you meant to say "doesn't?"), so you should edit it.
56424
It looks like a mistake. I deleted the sentence and reworded the rest. Thanks for catching it.
Bahuba
01-11-2022, 02:32 AM
Here is exactly what CDC Director Dr. Rochelle "everyone calls me Rachel" Walensky said on AUGUST 6th about Delta:
(CNN)Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.
"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."
That's why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.
Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected -- data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
Please note there is TRANSMISSION, which occurs through direct or indirect contact, droplet or aerosol, and INFECTION, which occurs within the transmissee. The vaccines DO NOT prevent transmission, per CDC and many other qualified scientists and doctors. Some say they prevent infection, and limit severity of infection, and our blue member here appears to be saying that by his read of recent NY state data the rate of infection of vaccinated individuals is lower.
I'm not sure that interpretation factors in that reported rates are MUCH lower than actual rates of transmission and infection, and that what may be occurring is vaccinated are more likely to be symptomless and therefore less apparent.
Further, Omicron, which is clearly much more transmissible than Delta, in some studies, is MORE likely to infect the vaccinated than the unvaccinated, so we have no clarity yet from scientists.
As Miss AP said, the regrettable politicization of all this makes it even harder.