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Eric Stoner
01-11-2022, 08:45 AM
Here is exactly what CDC Director Dr. Rochelle "everyone calls me Rachel" Walensky said on AUGUST 6th about Delta:

(CNN)Fully vaccinated people who get a Covid-19 breakthrough infection can transmit the virus, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said Thursday.

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death -- they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission."
That's why the CDC changed its guidance last week and is now recommending even vaccinated people wear masks indoors again, Walensky said.
Last week, the agency released a study that showed the Delta variant produced similar amounts of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people if they got infected -- data that suggests vaccinated people who get a breakthrough infection could have a similar tendency to spread the virus as the unvaccinated.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

Please note there is TRANSMISSION, which occurs through direct or indirect contact, droplet or aerosol, and INFECTION, which occurs within the transmissee. The vaccines DO NOT prevent transmission, per CDC and many other qualified scientists and doctors. Some say they prevent infection, and limit severity of infection, and our blue member here appears to be saying that by his read of recent NY state data the rate of infection of vaccinated individuals is lower.

I'm not sure that interpretation factors in that reported rates are MUCH lower than actual rates of transmission and infection, and that what may be occurring is vaccinated are more likely to be symptomless and therefore less apparent.

Further, Omicron, which is clearly much more transmissible than Delta, in some studies, is MORE likely to infect the vaccinated than the unvaccinated, so we have no clarity yet from scientists.

As Miss AP said, the regrettable politicization of all this makes it even harder.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. You hit all the highlights with one post while it took me 3 or 4 to try and make the same points. Very nicely done.

Bahuba
01-11-2022, 01:35 PM
^^I am just reading the news, talking to my doctor, and sometimes talking to my friends who are doctors. I am fully vaccinated and have taken the booster shot, and I have had COVID.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-11-2022, 02:52 PM
For what it's worth, Dr. Fauci and other top medical professionals have been perfectly clear about what a COVID infection means to people in high risk groups. There are no more excuses. If you end up dying gruesomely due to COVID....don't say that nobody warned you.

I'm so damned tired of anti-science sentiment in the United States. The brightest minds and hardest workers have stepped up during this Pandemic to make it clear that being aware and informed can save lives.

LoveyD
01-11-2022, 11:29 PM
So my city has reported that they have been seeing record numbers of covid cases. It's the highest it's ever been right now. I'm so glad my son got his booster shot and that I have mine, along with a box of kn95 masks. I am not happy about having to go out in the covid jungle and risk getting sick everyday. I try to hit up the stores when it's early so I Don't go near anyone.

moneybags
01-11-2022, 11:53 PM
^^I am just reading the news, talking to my doctor, and sometimes talking to my friends who are doctors. I am fully vaccinated and have taken the booster shot, and I have had COVID.

Can I ask how bad it was?

Bahuba
01-12-2022, 07:05 AM
Can I ask how bad it was?



I was lucky. For me COVID was like a cross between a cold and the flu. The worst part of it was sneezing and a sore throat. It lasted for maybe 10 days end to end, with the ends being just slightly tired, and the middle being difficult. The worst three days I had a bad sore throat, didn't want to eat solids, slight night sweats, headache, couldn't really sleep, and had very strange bad dreams. In context, I've had worse sickness in the last 10 years easily. I had no fever, no loss of smell, no breathing issues, no brain fog. The excessive sneezing got on my nerves.

Eric Stoner
01-12-2022, 10:54 AM
For what it's worth, Dr. Fauci and other top medical professionals have been perfectly clear about what a COVID infection means to people in high risk groups. There are no more excuses. If you end up dying gruesomely due to COVID....don't say that nobody warned you.

I'm so damned tired of anti-science sentiment in the United States. The brightest minds and hardest workers have stepped up during this Pandemic to make it clear that being aware and informed can save lives.

Um hmmmm. I AGREE with you about the "anti-science" tree dwellers.

Fauci ? I think he is a mixed bag. He's been right. He's been wrong just as often. He's lied and been caught at it. Personally I think he has too much baggage and is overdue for retirement.

That said, the "science" is clear that being vaxed is protective. If you are vaxed and get infected chances are excellent that you will not get seriously ill.

miss.a.p1600
01-12-2022, 11:54 AM
Just heard that COVID tests (including the at home test) will be covered by health insurance so no need to pay out of pocket…….unless you don’t want possible positive results on your record.

I personally will pay out of pocket bc. I don’t want health Insurance companies knowing all my business

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/01/10/biden-harris-administration-requires-insurance-companies-group-health-plans-to-cover-cost-at-home-covid-19-tests-increasing-access-free-tests.html

TheBrownFox
01-12-2022, 12:11 PM
I was lucky. For me COVID was like a cross between a cold and the flu. The worst part of it was sneezing and a sore throat. It lasted for maybe 10 days end to end, with the ends being just slightly tired, and the middle being difficult. The worst three days I had a bad sore throat, didn't want to eat solids, slight night sweats, headache, couldn't really sleep, and had very strange bad dreams. In context, I've had worse sickness in the last 10 years easily. I had no fever, no loss of smell, no breathing issues, no brain fog. The excessive sneezing got on my nerves.


I was just telling my dad that when I had it last week, there was one evening in particular where something weird happened that kinda felt like a hallucination. I was laying in bed, and saw myself up on my bedroom ceiling (like floating or flying like an angel), and I was looking down at myself laying in bed. The shit was freaky. Also had an odd dream involving my mom and my niece. The day that Urgent Care told me I tested positive, they had a prescription for medicine called Bromphen sent to my pharmacy...and my dad had dropped it off for me. I had to take it every 4 hours. Nasty as hell, but it really did help. I'd been using up toilet paper to blow my nose, and whenever I'd sneezed my sore throat would hurt more. I also had the chills, which sucked. Dad had also dropped off some chicken noodle soup, some tea, and cough drops. My little sister and her kids dropped off a very thoughtful gift basket with two lottery tickets in it, a crossword puzzle book, two cards with sweet handwritten notes to me, etc.

TheBrownFox
01-12-2022, 12:37 PM
It's my understanding that people who previously had Covid can actually still come up positive on future tests long after (Up to 90 days, I think?) they're feeling 100% better. And I really hope that's not gonna cause me any issues with my future surgery appointment.

I have a February 4th surgery (Which would have been this month, but the hospital had to cancel all surgeries due to being crowded with Covid patients), and two days before the surgery I'm required to go to the hospital for a Covid test (That's their policy with all surgeries). My concern is that "Still coming up as positive on tests for up to 90 days" thing, and I'm wondering if they would actually turn me away and postpone my surgery AGAIN. I'm praying that doesn't happen, as that would be totally unfair. I don't think it will happen, because the college my son goes to is telling people that instead of a negative Covid test (when they return to campus in a few weeks for spring semester), they can show proof that they've had Covid in the past 90 days (or is it 60?). When I first read that I was like wait...what? And then a few people had to explain it to me...that it's because people who previously had Covid and are 100% better could still be coming up as positive on these future tests.

moneybags
01-12-2022, 12:56 PM
Just heard that COVID tests (including the at home test) will be covered by health insurance so no need to pay out of pocket…….unless you don’t want possible positive results on your record.

I personally will pay out of pocket bc. I don’t want health Insurance companies knowing all my business

https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2022/01/10/biden-harris-administration-requires-insurance-companies-group-health-plans-to-cover-cost-at-home-covid-19-tests-increasing-access-free-tests.html

Right now they can’t ask you about pre exsisting conditions. They won’t ask if your positive when you file a claim-just lie if they do. Unless you’ve been hospitalized with Covid I don’t think they would know. You might be thinking of life insurance or disability insurance where they ask a bunch of questions. You don’t send in the test results to the insurance company. You just send in the receipt to file your claim. At least that’s how I think it works.

@ BrownFox
You can text positive up to 90 day, but I don’t think that happens very often. I think that’s common with many viral illnesses that it can take awhile to clear from the viral debris from the system. You shouldn’t still be contagious. It’ll be fine BrownFox. Try to not worry. Br anxious for nothing.

I’m not sure what the end game is for all of this? We have to learn to live with it at some point. I’m still being responsible until the hospitals aren’t full, but I’d like to know what the CDC expects us to do moving forward. I can’t believe they didn’t have tests for us. The CDC has lost all credibility.

TheBrownFox
01-12-2022, 02:21 PM
@ BrownFox
You can text positive up to 90 day, but I don’t think that happens very often. I think that’s common with many viral illnesses that it can take awhile to clear from the viral debris from the system. You shouldn’t still be contagious. It’ll be fine BrownFox. Try to not worry. Br anxious for nothing.



It isn't for nothing. I just got off the phone with the hospital, who informed me that they're having a board meeting next week to decide what to do about those of us surgery patients who they had to reschedule. They're crowded with Covid patients, and they're afraid that they'll probably have to reschedule all of our surgeries AGAIN. Because the sick Covid patients have to take priority. Shit's so fucked up.

And they're going to do my Covid test a bit differently now. They're gonna make me come in sooner for a PCR test, and then depending on how that comes out, I'll have to make ANOTHER trip there to do a different fucking Covid test.

moneybags
01-12-2022, 02:28 PM
It isn't for nothing. I just got off the phone with the hospital, who informed me that they're having a board meeting next week to decide what to do about those of us surgery patients who they had to reschedule. They're crowded with Covid patients, and they're afraid that they'll probably have to reschedule all of our surgeries AGAIN. Because the sick Covid patients have to take priority. Shit's so fucked up.

And they're going to do my Covid test a bit differently now. They're gonna make me come in sooner for a PCR test, and then depending on how that comes out, I'll have to make ANOTHER trip there to do a different fucking Covid test.

I’m sorry. Covid sucks

Bahuba
01-13-2022, 10:55 AM
I was just telling my dad that when I had it last week, there was one evening in particular where something weird happened that kinda felt like a hallucination. I was laying in bed, and saw myself up on my bedroom ceiling (like floating or flying like an angel), and I was looking down at myself laying in bed. The shit was freaky. Also had an odd dream involving my mom and my niece. .

^This! I haven't had that sort of weirdness since I was a kid. I felt like I was in one of those 1800s opium dens

LoveyD
01-13-2022, 09:56 PM
I was just telling my dad that when I had it last week, there was one evening in particular where something weird happened that kinda felt like a hallucination. I was laying in bed, and saw myself up on my bedroom ceiling (like floating or flying like an angel), and I was looking down at myself laying in bed. The shit was freaky. Also had an odd dream involving my mom and my niece. The day that Urgent Care told me I tested positive, they had a prescription for medicine called Bromphen sent to my pharmacy...and my dad had dropped it off for me. I had to take it every 4 hours. Nasty as hell, but it really did help. I'd been using up toilet paper to blow my nose, and whenever I'd sneezed my sore throat would hurt more. I also had the chills, which sucked. Dad had also dropped off some chicken noodle soup, some tea, and cough drops. My little sister and her kids dropped off a very thoughtful gift basket with two lottery tickets in it, a crossword puzzle book, two cards with sweet handwritten notes to me, etc.

Do you think you may have had a near-death experience? Did you feel outside of your body, or see a Light? That's great your family has been taking good care of you.

moneybags
01-15-2022, 06:50 PM
Encanto parody-we don’t talk about covid




https://youtu.be/Lf-8rEK63eg

TheBrownFox
01-15-2022, 09:00 PM
Do you think you may have had a near-death experience? Did you feel outside of your body, or see a Light? That's great your family has been taking good care of you.


Near-death experience? Not at all. No, I didn't see a light. It was exactly as I described in the other post (On my ceiling and in the bed at the same time). And it was just like having a cold with flu symptoms. Chills, cough/phlegm, runny, stuffy nose and nasal congestion, sore throat that would hurt more when I sneezed, headache, nausea (Didn't throw up though). I did not have a fever though.

laurielegs
01-15-2022, 11:53 PM
I was just telling my dad that when I had it last week, there was one evening in particular where something weird happened that kinda felt like a hallucination. I was laying in bed, and saw myself up on my bedroom ceiling (like floating or flying like an angel), and I was looking down at myself laying in bed. The shit was freaky. Also had an odd dream involving my mom and my niece. The day that Urgent Care told me I tested positive, they had a prescription for medicine called Bromphen sent to my pharmacy...and my dad had dropped it off for me. I had to take it every 4 hours. Nasty as hell, but it really did help. I'd been using up toilet paper to blow my nose, and whenever I'd sneezed my sore throat would hurt more. I also had the chills, which sucked. Dad had also dropped off some chicken noodle soup, some tea, and cough drops. My little sister and her kids dropped off a very thoughtful gift basket with two lottery tickets in it, a crossword puzzle book, two cards with sweet handwritten notes to me, etc.

Oh wow that does sound freaky. I'm glad your family is nearby to help some. (((hugs)))

LoveyD
01-16-2022, 05:37 AM
Near-death experience? Not at all. No, I didn't see a light. It was exactly as I described in the other post (On my ceiling and in the bed at the same time). And it was just like having a cold with flu symptoms. Chills, cough/phlegm, runny, stuffy nose and nasal congestion, sore throat that would hurt more when I sneezed, headache, nausea (Didn't throw up though). I did not have a fever though.

I'm glad you're okay. With you feeling up by the ceiling it sounded like an out-of-body experience, something that happens when you have an nde. I've heard a lot about people having weird dreams during covid, especially with this omicron variant. I hope you're feeling a lot better! This virus is no joke!

moneybags
01-16-2022, 08:40 AM
Covid becoming endemic. Is this the beginning of the end?


https://youtu.be/U3W84wb5jKo

Hopefully this spring/summer we can go back to normal. He says covid will be just like the flu/common cold. The problem we have now is unvaccinated people are getting really sick and the hospitals are full. Either way we’re gonna be exposed to covid. Soon we’ll all have natural or artificial immunity, or most likely both. Covid won’t be nearly as bad next winter unless there’s some monster variant. Let’s hope covid keeps becoming less pathogenic so we can move on with our lives

TheBrownFox
01-16-2022, 10:59 AM
I'm glad you're okay. With you feeling up by the ceiling it sounded like an out-of-body experience, something that happens when you have an nde. I've heard a lot about people having weird dreams during covid, especially with this omicron variant. I hope you're feeling a lot better! This virus is no joke!


Okay. Yeah, I was nowhere near close to death. Lol. Yes, I've been better for like a week now. :) Thanks!

eagle2
01-16-2022, 11:01 AM
Very glad to hear you're better!

whirlerz
01-17-2022, 02:20 PM
One of my associates has it, company tried to sweep it under the rug, really person, I did notice their going to a fair amount of social gatherings & restaurants

Bahuba
01-18-2022, 09:20 AM
I have a colleague in DC, she took the test in the morning, and opened the results on a zoom call with me and several others. It was positive, and by the end of the call she was coughing and had a scratchy voice. Omicron works quick.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-18-2022, 11:32 AM
You can now get free at home covid test from the USPS. The shipments go out at the end of this month

https://special.usps.com/testkits

eagle2
01-18-2022, 10:01 PM
Here's another government site offering free at-home tests:

https://www.covidtests.gov/

xxxGothBarbie
01-18-2022, 10:15 PM
I think the waves of Covid are gonna be like the cold/flu in the winter months and be more normalish in the summertime. They will most likely have a medication for it soon instead of us having to keep getting vaccinated every 6 months.

Eric Stoner
01-19-2022, 08:49 AM
I think the waves of Covid are gonna be like the cold/flu in the winter months and be more normalish in the summertime. They will most likely have a medication for it soon instead of us having to keep getting vaccinated every 6 months.

I think they do have anti-viral meds effective against Covid.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-19-2022, 02:20 PM
My dad honestly roared with laughter when I told him my state is mostly populated with anti-vaxxer senior citizens. He's seen some things in his lifetime and to him...this Pandemic has been an epic thing to behold.

The morbid silver lining to this Pandemic is a lot of people are cashing on on inheritances sooner.

I for one am depressed that science denying is a leading trend of our times but....."it's a free country." Believe what you want to believe.

SnuffleUffleGrass
01-19-2022, 04:03 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/life-death-hugs-prayers-story-231905488.html

***cough cough***

laurielegs
01-19-2022, 06:15 PM
The senior citizens that are anti-vaxxers just boggle my mind. They are old enough to have lived through the devastation that polio caused and to have seen the victory of smallpox being wiped off the face of the earth. If they were all like that back then we would still have iron lungs, smallpox deaths and children walking around in braces with shrunken, polio-damaged limbs. I just don't get it.


(graphic images - don't look if easily sickened by medical photos).

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-45101091

last smallpox case

I feel like we could be declaring victory over Covid too if this had been handled correctly.

TheBrownFox
01-21-2022, 10:39 PM
This is kind of Covid related, I guess. Maybe I'm missing something, but can someone (who currently uses Uber) explain to me WHERE exactly I'm supposed to find this so-called "Get a free Uber ride to your vaccination appointment" offer? I'm logged in on the Uber app, and I don't see it anywhere on here. When I type the offer into a Google search, something comes up that makes me think maybe this free offer was just for NEW Uber customers (first time signups). And if that's the case, then they should've advertised it that way. I've had a very stressful day today that resulted in me having to pay out of pocket for prescription ear drops for my son, and now I'm left with fucking $14 on my card. And that is not enough money to get us to AND from his booster shot appointment this Sunday. His college is requiring this booster shot, and spring semester starts in a week.

TheBrownFox
01-21-2022, 10:51 PM
^Nevermind. I see that the free offer ended July 4, 2021. *Sigh* Well that'd be nice if they weren't still advertising it as if it still applies. Even the Walgreens website (when you make the booster appointment) prompts you to reserve your free Uber ride.

eagle2
01-21-2022, 11:02 PM
Saw this:

https://coronavirus.baltimorecity.gov/covid-19-vaccine-information/weekly-schedule-vaccination-clinics

If you need help with transportation, please call 410-372-3444 or e-mail [email protected] for free transportation to and from your vaccination appointment. Individuals must have a vaccination appointment scheduled to sign up for transportation assistance, please plan ahead and call in advance!

TheBrownFox
01-21-2022, 11:06 PM
Saw this:

https://coronavirus.baltimorecity.gov/covid-19-vaccine-information/weekly-schedule-vaccination-clinics

If you need help with transportation, please call 410-372-3444 or e-mail [email protected] for free transportation to and from your vaccination appointment. Individuals must have a vaccination appointment scheduled to sign up for transportation assistance, please plan ahead and call in advance!


This is only for Baltimore City residents though. Thanks anyway.

rickdugan
01-22-2022, 06:50 AM
COVID positivity rates are now declining around the country, including here in FL. Looks like Omicron is a flash-in-the-pan event, though one that hopefully makes the population much more resistant to future variants.

miss.a.p1600
01-22-2022, 09:01 AM
I’m curious as to where you are getting your information that “COVID positive rates are declining across the country”?

moneybags
01-22-2022, 11:14 AM
https://youtu.be/BSBIWnskIuQ


He explains different group consciousnesses around covid. It explains how we interpret the same reality so differently.

rickdugan
01-22-2022, 06:13 PM
I’m curious as to where you are getting your information that “COVID positive rates are declining across the country”?

These links cover CA, NY, TX and FL, which together house over a third of the U.S. population. Positivity rates have peaked in all four states and are now declining sharply in 3 of the 4. They are still high, but many experts believe that Omicron has peaked.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/coronavirus/article257482284.html
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2022/01/21/florida-omicron-infections-fall-while-covid-deaths-start-to-rise/
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/hochul-the-covid-clouds-are-parting/3498396/
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map/texas

I wish I had consolidated national numbers but for some reason the CDC is not publishing nationwide trend data, but I've read reports about other states (PA and NJ to name two) where a similar phenomenon is in play.

I understand your confusion though as these reports are not easy to find. Every reporter and talking head squealed for several days when COVID numbers jumped again, but I guess that falling positivity rates aren't as sensational.

eagle2
01-22-2022, 07:47 PM
I've been look at worldometer for state figures. Not all states provide their numbers every day, but I periodically check it to see if the numbers are going up or down.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

TheBrownFox
01-22-2022, 10:17 PM
Every person getting surgery done at the hospital is required to do a Covid test two days prior. I informed the surgery scheduler lady that I HAD Covid a few weeks ago, so she said I have to come in to do a PCR Covid test then (Doing that Monday morning). *Sigh* I believe she said if the test detects antibodies (and shows positive), that means I WON'T have to come back for that Feb. 23 pre-surgery Covid test. Then I can just come back Feb. 25 for my surgery. If the PCR test comes back negative, then yeah, I have to take another bus trip out there on Feb. 23 for that second Covid test. It's a pain in the ass, and I hope they can stick with that Feb. 25 surgery date, and not have to reschedule it AGAIN because this is ridiculous.

The week prior to surgery, I also have to make another trip there to have them do my bloodwork all over again.

LoveyD
01-24-2022, 06:10 PM
^^ Geez, what a hassle! The hoops ppl have to jump through now...

I ordered my free covid tests. Hopefully they'll arrive soon.

All the Starbucks around here are either operating at reduced hours. Or they just have the drive-thru open. Too many employees getting sick and they don't have enough ppl to work.

This virus is going to cause businesses to close whether we have another formal lockdown or not.

Bahuba
01-25-2022, 06:59 AM
WHO says: "The World Health Organization offered "plausible hope" for an end to the pandemic, saying that vaccinations and natural immunity through infection meant “stabilization and normalization.” The spread of the omicron variant has failed to disrupt society to the extent that prior COVID-19 variants did, offering hope that subsequent waves wouldn't require lockdowns or similar measures. Both WHO and Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden’s top COVID adviser, encouraged continued vigilance, including increased levels of vaccination, to suppress transmission and new variants.

Eric Stoner
01-25-2022, 10:58 AM
Fauci , the CDC and the latest numbers all have cases going DOWN. Way down. Despite some silly stuff from Aaron Rodgers and fake info from John Stockton about healthy athletes supposedly dropping like flies from getting vaccinated , getting the shots is still a good idea.

eagle2
01-25-2022, 06:48 PM
I was very happy to see Kaaron Rodgers lose on Saturday.

Eric Stoner
01-26-2022, 08:32 AM
I was very happy to see Kaaron Rodgers lose on Saturday.

How is he a "Karen" ? Just because he has opinions you don't like ? You must be as Niners fan lol.

eagle2
01-26-2022, 02:07 PM
How is he a "Karen" ? Just because he has opinions you don't like ? You must be as Niners fan lol.

He believes he's entitled and that the rules don't apply to him, and he whines and complains like a karen.

rickdugan
01-26-2022, 04:59 PM
He believes he's entitled and that the rules don't apply to him, and he whines and complains like a karen.

Right, because we should never question or challenge "the rules." No doubt the rulers of Cuba, China, Venezuela, North Korea and a number of places would very much agree with you. ::)

Though actually I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion in the first place. The NFL did not require 100% vaccination, but rather simply set team level vaccination requirements and harsher ramifications for teams that did not meet those thresholds as well as unvaccinated players. The team was aware that Rodgers was unvaccinated yet kept him on the roster and continued to play him.

TheBrownFox
01-26-2022, 06:44 PM
^^ Geez, what a hassle! The hoops ppl have to jump through now...

I ordered my free covid tests. Hopefully they'll arrive soon.


My grandmom commented on one of my FB posts that it will take a few weeks to receive them, however PhatGirlDynomite (Saw her post in another thread) got hers delivered already within about a week. :)

eagle2
01-26-2022, 09:05 PM
The government is also giving away free N95 masks.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-get-free-n95-masks-from-the-u-s-government-11643114887