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miss.a.p1600
03-31-2022, 04:53 PM
This is the first I’ve heard of her being a narcissist
But…..
If Chris Rock aint suing and Will Smith ain't leaving........what can ya do?
eagle2
03-31-2022, 08:17 PM
There's a video going around of Chris Rock mocking Jada Pinkett-Smith on HBO all the way back in 1997, when she was Jada Pinkett.
https://twitter.com/naima/status/1509593135919386634
Here's her actual speech:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4775467/user-clip-jada-pinkett-smith-1-million-woman-march
Marina Starr
04-01-2022, 04:25 AM
It's been a couple days since what transpired and my opinion still stands. I have no issue with the slap. I'd much rather Will rightfully so slaps another man than his wife.
Who gives a fuck if this "shouldn't" happened at the Oscars. Will didn't choose the venue, Chris did.
I would definitely feel loved and protected if my man cares enough to come to my defense. People said that was violent but I disagree.
Probably because I'm a violent Hoe so I have no problem with violence.
I'm disgusted by the surplus of low value men that are appalled by what Will did but have no problems beating their wives/girlfriends senselessly.
What's even sadder is women that find the slap "violet"
but acceptable for their men to beat the fuck out of them.
DonaDiabla
04-01-2022, 05:32 AM
I agree with this but I will go even further than that. Sometimes, violence is necessary when it comes to putting many men in their places. Many of them don't know when to stop and people allow them to misbehaved without punishment. How I see it, Chris Rock and Will Smith learn big lessons. Yes, being comedian is job but that doesn't mean should say any old thing without issue. Sure, I agree Will could have waited into afterwards but it's done now. It's simple, Chris Rock got put in his place and I respect Will Smith even more for that. Time for the world to move on. Time for these men to move on as well. A lot of people bitch and nag about Will Smith putting another man in his place when it comes to his wife but they have no issue at the countless of men who have punch or nearly beating women to death. They have no issue with women being mocked into tears by men. They have no issues when men belittle children. They have no issue with men beating children and women until they die. These people often don't have an issue with men taking out their most violent impulses on women, children, and even animals. But one rich black male celebrity puts another one in their place at the Oscars with one slap.. than all hell breaks lose.
What's also amusing that half of the Hollywood people bitching about this...did much worse. For example, Alec Baldwin actually killed someone, beat photographers, verbally abuse his ex-wife, beat other men, and verbally abused his children on videotape. But I guess he felt so superior because he didn't do in front the Oscars.;D Plus, the Academy know they gave the Oscars to much worse people including Emil Jannings ( Who was actually Nazi whom Hitler and Mussolini adore. But then he try to lie after WWII about his Nazi activities.) I didn't see where the Oscars demanding that Emil Jannings estate give his Oscar back despite him making multiple films for multiple Nazi governments .But I guess as long as that Nazis act great onstage...it's okay for them to keep their Oscars. ::)
Links about Emil Jannings here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/oscars-2019-first-best-actor-nazi-emil-jannings-1929-a8758451.html
It's been a couple days since what transpired and my opinion still stands. I have no issue with the slap. I'd much rather Will rightfully so slaps another man than his wife.
Who gives a fuck if this "shouldn't" happened at the Oscars. Will didn't choose the venue, Chris did.
I would definitely feel loved and protected if my man cares enough to come to my defense. People said that was violent but I disagree.
Probably because I'm a violent Hoe so I have no problem with violence.
I'm disgusted by the surplus of low value men that are appalled by what Will did but have no problems beating their wives/girlfriends senselessly.
What's even sadder is women that find the slap "violet"
but acceptable for their men to beat the fuck out of them.
DonaDiabla
04-01-2022, 05:38 AM
Also I feel like Daniel Radcliffe had an perfect response to this situation:
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/946508-daniel-radcliffe-is-dramatically-bored-of-opinions-on-will-smiths-oscars-slap
Marina Starr
04-01-2022, 07:11 AM
Girl, you made some really great points. I wished I could thanks more than once. Men know that by nature, women are not violent or ready to go as far as they do unless they're batshit crazy as I am. It's sad that so many women are so indoctrinated to accept abuse and disrespect. There are also different standards of behaviors that are expected of women than men. Violence is necessary when the situation is called for. A lot of women need to get over being nice, polite and ladylike and endure being assaulted and verbal/physical abuse with a smile on their face.
These are big lessons people can learn from that goes beyond Chris Rock and Will Smith that when you talk shit, some people with 'Will Smith' your ass. I strongly feel if your jokes are hurtful, then you shouldn't be a comedian or be more creative with your jokes. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and judgment on what Will Smith did and that's their prerogative. I don't want to be the 'judge and jury' of what people think. However, who hasn't lived and not reacted badly or how people think they should reacted differently so let's not be hypocritical and 'holier than thou".
I want to take it further and address the parents that feel they don't want their kids to be subjected to the kind of "violence" that Will Smith demonstrated on TV because many considered him a role model so they expected better. If parents have to depend on celebrities to set good examples for their children then it's their responsibility to check and work on their parenting skills.
A lot of these parents have no problem with their children watching violence on TV or play violent video games so let's not be selective of what kind of violence is acceptable.
I agree with this but I will go even further than that. Sometimes, violence is necessary when it comes to putting many men in their places. Many of them don't know when to stop and people allow them to misbehaved without punishment. How I see it, Chris Rock and Will Smith learn big lessons. Yes, being comedian is job but that doesn't mean should say any old thing without issue. Sure, I agree Will could have waited into afterwards but it's done now. It's simple, Chris Rock got put in his place and I respect Will Smith even more for that. Time for the world to move on. Time for these men to move on as well. A lot of people bitch and nag about Will Smith putting another man in his place when it comes to his wife but they have no issue at the countless of men who have punch or nearly beating women to death. They have no issue with women being mocked into tears by men. They have no issues when men belittle children. They have no issue with men beating children and women until they die. These people often don't have an issue with men taking out their most violent impulses on women, children, and even animals. But one rich black male celebrity puts another one in their place at the Oscars with one slap.. than all hell breaks lose.
What's also amusing that half of the Hollywood people bitching about this...did much worse. For example, Alec Baldwin actually killed someone, beat photographers, verbally abuse his ex-wife, beat other men, and verbally abused his children on videotape. But I guess he felt so superior because he didn't do in front the Oscars.;D Plus, the Academy know they gave the Oscars to much worse people including Emil Jannings ( Who was actually Nazi whom Hitler and Mussolini adore. But then he try to lie after WWII about his Nazi activities.) I didn't see where the Oscars demanding that Emil Jannings estate give his Oscar back despite him making multiple films for multiple Nazi governments .But I guess as long as that Nazis act great onstage...it's okay for them to keep their Oscars. ::)
Links about Emil Jannings here:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/oscars-2019-first-best-actor-nazi-emil-jannings-1929-a8758451.html
indiegirl
04-01-2022, 07:26 AM
People will get sick of it, I already am and I never even watch TV (I'm sure it's worse on the news shows etc?). Some other celebrity will do something crazy and it'll be all about that and this thing will be done. ;D
I was over it on day 2. LOLL. Privileged millionaires causing drama amongst other millionaires who don't give a damn about us anyways. Nothing for me to see here! LOL
Rando side note: I will never forget when my sister was like 6 years old and we were at the bank and pointed and shouted "Look Mommy! That man is bald!" I'm sure my mom just about died inside as that man stared at us.
DonaDiabla
04-01-2022, 07:49 AM
Thanks girl. You also highlighted another problem with this "issue". People making random people into role models.How are celebrities' children role models in the first place? Sure, many celebrities do good things but that doesn't mean you should have your children look up to strangers as their role models. Personally, I feel that parents should try to be the people their children look up to. It's really the parents' fault if they look up to any celebrity as role model for their children.:)
Girl, you made some really great points. I wished I could thanks more than once. Men know that by nature, women are not violent or ready to go as far as they do unless they're batshit crazy as I am. It's sad that so many women are so indoctrinated to accept abuse and disrespect. There are also different standards of behaviors that are expected of women than men. Violence is necessary when the situation is called for. A lot of women need to get over being nice, polite and ladylike and endure being assaulted and verbal/physical abuse with a smile on their face.
These are big lessons people can learn from that goes beyond Chris Rock and Will Smith that when you talk shit, some people with 'Will Smith' your ass. I strongly feel if your jokes are hurtful, then you shouldn't be a comedian or be more creative with your jokes. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and judgment on what Will Smith did and that's their prerogative. I don't want to be the 'judge and jury' of what people think. However, who hasn't lived and not reacted badly or how people think they should reacted differently so let's not be hypocritical and 'holier than thou".
I want to take it further and address the parents that feel they don't want their kids to be subjected to the kind of "violence" that Will Smith demonstrated on TV because many considered him a role model so they expected better. If parents have to depend on celebrities to set good examples for their children then it's their responsibility to check and work on their parenting skills.
A lot of these parents have no problem with their children watching violence on TV or play violent video games so let's not be selective of what kind of violence is acceptable.
Sam38g
04-01-2022, 10:16 AM
Seems Chris used to have a crush on Jada & she chose Will. And we all know how men act once rejected.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/chris-rock-has-been-mocking-jada-pinkett-smith-since-the-90s
whirlerz
04-01-2022, 12:23 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/will-smith-oscars-speech-cult-pedro-almodovar-224228918.html
.
He mentioned cult leader type, isn't Will in Scientology?
eagle2
04-01-2022, 01:00 PM
Will and Jada left Scientology in 2015.
whirlerz
04-01-2022, 04:58 PM
I was over it on day 2. LOLL. Privileged millionaires causing drama amongst other millionaires who don't give a damn about us anyways. Nothing for me to see here! LOL
Best. Damn. Comment. Yet^
Rando side note: I will never forget when my sister was like 6 years old and we were at the bank and pointed and shouted "Look Mommy! That man is bald!" I'm sure my mom just about died inside as that man stared at us.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:^
Once, in the city, I saw a girl w/blue hair, this was way before different colors like that were popular..
Lmao at an older guy, he did like a quadruple take to it..
eagle2
04-01-2022, 05:01 PM
Will Smith Resigns From Academy Over Chris Rock Oscars Slap Backlash
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/smith-resigns-academy-over-chris-224558418.html
whirlerz
04-01-2022, 05:48 PM
Wow! U beat me to it, I was gonna post this!
dpacrkk
04-02-2022, 08:18 AM
/dodge flames
https://i.imgur.com/Q5pPpDr.png
whirlerz
04-02-2022, 10:22 AM
Lol cute joke^
xxxGothBarbie
04-02-2022, 11:33 AM
I would've never apologized to someone after I decked them. If they deserved it fuck that, they don't get nada from me. He probably only did it for publicity & or felt somehow "forced" to bc of how ppl were so appalled by it. Sometimes violence is needed to put people in their places in this world otherwise bullying continues. It's ridiculous. They make standing up for yourself a crime these days *eyeroll*
Marina Starr
04-02-2022, 03:02 PM
No men will hate you more than the ones you rejected, lmao.
I believe Jada once dated Tupac. People that considered what Will Smith did was violent have no idea that would consider run of the mill reaction compare to what Tupac is capable of or would do if he was still here.
Seems Chris used to have a crush on Jada & she chose Will. And we all know how men act once rejected.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/chris-rock-has-been-mocking-jada-pinkett-smith-since-the-90s
TheBrownFox
04-02-2022, 03:31 PM
All these fairweather Will Smith "fans" suddenly turning their back on him, claiming that they're DONE with Will Smith now. Yet half of them are probably still all "ride and die" for R. Kelly. ::)
Pardon my ignorance, but I usually do not keep up with all this celebrity stuff, and online I'm constantly seeing posts about "Jada cheating on Will." Weren't they in an OPEN MARRIAGE? And weren't they SEPARATED at the time she got with this August dude anyway? Why are people acting like theirs is a traditional marriage, and that she broke marriage vows? Or is this just another case of a woman being slut-shamed for having a sex life with someone other than the father of her children? And they are not the only couple who's in an open marriage. Mo'Nique and her husband have one, as well as so many other couples.
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Genoveve
04-02-2022, 03:50 PM
online I'm constantly seeing posts about "Jada cheating on Will." Weren't they in an OPEN MARRIAGE? And weren't they SEPARATED at the time she got with this August dude anyway? Why are people acting like theirs is a traditional marriage, and that she broke marriage vows? Or is this just another case of a woman being slut-shamed for having a sex life with someone other than the father of her children? And they are not the only couple who's in an open marriage. Mo'Nique and her husband have one, as well as so many other couples.
Exactly that's why it makes no sense how people keep saying "Why didn't Will have all this smoke for August???" Because he knew about it and didn't care. Didn't August even say that Will gave their 'entanglement' his blessing? Will recently said in an interview too that there's never been any infidelity in their marriage because nothing has ever been a surprise. OPEN.MARRIAGE.
Marina Starr
04-02-2022, 04:26 PM
That doesn't surprise me one bit. Many already turned their back on him just for the simply fact that he defended, Jada-his WIFE and the MOTHER of his children because they believe she isn't worth losing his career over. So she was to blame for the action of her grown ass husband ;D
And what exactly is a traditional marriage and according to who? LOL
Yes, they are in a consensual OPEN MARRIAGE by CHOICE. And a big yes to another case of of a woman being slut-shamed and blamed. I honestly don't know why people care so much with what goes on in other people's marriage. What effect does it have on their lives?
All these fairweather Will Smith "fans" suddenly turning their back on him, claiming that they're DONE with Will Smith now. Yet half of them are probably still all "ride and die" for R. Kelly. ::)
Pardon my ignorance, but I usually do not keep up with all this celebrity stuff, and online I'm constantly seeing posts about "Jada cheating on Will." Weren't they in an OPEN MARRIAGE? And weren't they SEPARATED at the time she got with this August dude anyway? Why are people acting like theirs is a traditional marriage, and that she broke marriage vows? Or is this just another case of a woman being slut-shamed for having a sex life with someone other than the father of her children? And they are not the only couple who's in an open marriage. Mo'Nique and her husband have one, as well as so many other couples.
TheBrownFox
04-02-2022, 08:25 PM
People love to share posts about mental health for likes, and then will turn around and make cruel jokes/memes about this woman's hair loss. It's mean. It's all fun and games until someone you care about starts cutting themselves or worse.
Even D.L. Hughley (who I adore) had to cool it with the autism jokes when his adult son told him those jokes made him feel like his dad hates him. :(
I see that someone shouted "Fuck Will Smith!" at Chris Rock's comedy show, and Chris shut him down. Good on him for that.
https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.69247/title.chris-rock-shuts-down-fuck-will-smith-chant-at-comedy-show#signup
bBarbaraFap
04-03-2022, 09:15 AM
Do you think the production of the films "Bad Boys 4" was stopped because of this incident?
eagle2
04-03-2022, 04:51 PM
A number of news outlets reported that it was.
https://www.vulture.com/2022/04/will-smith-future-projects-updates-oscars-slap.html
Genoveve
04-03-2022, 05:09 PM
I thought this video really humanized ‘Nice Guy Will’ and helps to explain why he might have acted so ‘out of character’:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M38rTIm3Gqc
jack0177057
04-04-2022, 02:34 PM
There is so much more to this story, but, we will never know it. Will Smith laughed at the joke at first, but, when he saw the expression on his wife's face, it sparked outrage that was either genuine or fake.
Three scenarios come to mind:
(1) Jada-centered explanation: Will has witnessed first hand Jada's pain and suffering associated with her hair loss and the insensitivity of the joke just triggered an overwhelming outrage. But, my issue with this explanation is that, if this was the case, Will Smith would not have laughed initially at the joke. And, he would have been triggered right away, without having to look at Jada's reaction.
(2) Will-centered explanation: Will notices the joke has made his wife upset and feels like he must be her 'white night'. Maybe she has complained in the past about him not sticking up for her. He thinks he will look weak if he does not stick up for her now. He takes action to confirm that he is a bad ass 'protector of his family'. His actions in this scenario are purely ego/narcissism driven.
(3) Chris Rock-centered explanation: Will has deep-seated resentment due to years of being 'picked on' by Chris Rock. If this is the case, Will should have fought back with some mean jokes about Chris Rock. Isn't Will Smith a comedian in his own right? Couldn't he come up with some good roast jokes against Chris? A roasting feud would have been fun entertainment, instead of the shit show we had.
My issue with what went down is time and place. If this had happened in a club, restaurant or other place where Will Smith reasonably expected to be left in peace to enjoy an evening with his wife, I would totally be on Will's side. But, the fact that it happened at the Oscars, makes it wrong on so many levels. Everyone knows that there is going to be some serious roasting at the Oscars. It is supposed to humble these 'stars' that are treated like 'gods' amongst mere mortals. Every actors at the Oscars has a bull's eye on their back. If they get roasted, they are supposed to be a good sport and just take it. This shows the world that these stars have a humble side and can be good sports with humor at their expense. Will Smith violated this unwritten rule and: (a) made an ass of himself, (b) broke the golden rule of the 'gods' being humble and good sports at the Oscars, (c) caused shock, confusion and embarrassment to everyone, (d) stole the show from other Oscar-winning actors, and (e) appeared to confirm the worst stereotypes about black people.
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 02:55 PM
^^^I agree that Will was in the wrong but I completely disagree with point E. If him hitting Chris confirmed a negative stereotype I am assuming it's a stereotype that 'black people are more violent,' and a racist stereotype like that is IMO nothing that black people need to be responsible for dealing with or changing. I think it harkens back to what PGD was saying:
Also another take that I find unusual are those who have said things like "this is a set back.....this took black folks back a 100 years....not in front of the white folks..."
What I have to say to that is this if someone who isn't black says this then they didn't think much of us in the first place. And if you ARE black and feels this way you are most likely deeply and catastrophicly have been impacted by white supremacy. That is the key agenda, to make us feel less than and unworthy and also inhuman. Do not fall for that because we are magnificent and worthy of grace even when tested on a public stage.
jack0177057
04-04-2022, 04:25 PM
^^^ I wish I agreed with you.
But, stereotypes continue to dominate and OPTICS cannot be ignored. If you see a nerdy white kid wearing a trench coat to school when it is not even that cold outside, you will probably take your kid out of school that day. If you see a white Catholic priest taking a young alter boys into a private room, it just doesn't look good. If you are a Russian living in the US (or other Western countries) right now, you are probably going out of your way to make sure everyone knows that you support Ukraine. If you are a rich Italian or Mexican, you probably feel obligated to explain the source of your wealth to people, so they don't assume it is mafia or cartel related. I am not saying this is right, or it is fair, but, stereotypes continue to loom large in the US. We can't ignore them. Each of us should do our best to shatter stereotypes, rather than appear to confirm them.
Also, I don't think Will Smith would have done to a white person what he did to Chris Rock. Does that make Will Smith a racist?
He probably believes that white people do not take black-on-black violence as seriously as they would black-on-white violence. Does that make Will Smith a racist?
Frankly, I believe that if Will Smith had assaulted a white person, his ass would have been arrested immediately. But, when it is black-on-black violence, white people are not sure what to do. They panic and get confused. Their brain goes like this: "Maybe it's a black thing? Should we get involved? Maybe we let the black people here deal with it like it is a family thing? Oh no, how bad will it look if we have a famous black actor escorted out of here by our white cops? Shit, damn! We're going to look like racists and get boycotted again! What if Will Smith resists arrest ends up getting shot by some stupid-ass trigger-happy cop? Shit, damn! There's no good outcome here!!!... Better to be criticized for doing nothing."
miss.a.p1600
04-04-2022, 04:43 PM
^interesting
I also think if Jada really does have him out here feeling emasculated in public
Him taking his anger out on another man (by slapping him) after joking negatively about his wife is better than slapping his wife who supposedly emasculates him.
eagle2
04-04-2022, 05:01 PM
^^^I agree that Will was in the wrong but I completely disagree with point E. If him hitting Chris confirmed a negative stereotype I am assuming it's a stereotype that 'black people are more violent,' and a racist stereotype like that is IMO nothing that black people need to be responsible for dealing with or changing. I think it harkens back to what PGD was saying:
I agree. The actions of Will Smith at the Oscars isn't representative of how black people behave, any more than the altercation between Tommy Lee and Kid Rock at the VMAs is representative of how white people behave. The only people who would say it does, were already racists to begin with. Any intelligent person would know that not all black people are going to react the same way in every situation, the same as not all white people are going to react the same in every situation.
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 05:58 PM
I am not saying this is right, or it is fair, but, stereotypes continue to loom large in the US. We can't ignore them. Each of us should do our best to shatter stereotypes, rather than appear to confirm them.
I think we CAN ignore them. Don't you think a better way of shattering them would be people 'ignoring' them/unlearning them/refusing to entertain them? Instead of just accepting them as the status quo and placing the onus on the stereotyped to constantly work around them?
But, stereotypes continue to dominate and OPTICS cannot be ignored. If you see a nerdy white kid wearing a trench coat to school when it is not even that cold outside, you will probably take your kid out of school that day. If you see a white Catholic priest taking a young alter boys into a private room, it just doesn't look good. If you are a Russian living in the US (or other Western countries) right now, you are probably going out of your way to make sure everyone knows that you support Ukraine. If you are a rich Italian or Mexican, you probably feel obligated to explain the source of your wealth to people, so they don't assume it is mafia or cartel related.
Hmmmm. This is interesting to me because I would be suspicious of a nerdy kid of any race in a trench coat in a school, I would be suspicious of a Catholic priest of any race taking altar boys into a private room, I would not be judgmental of any Russians, automatically assuming that they are pro-Putin, I have no reason to think it's unusual for an Italian or Mexican to be rich and am not sure why you even feel like they would "probably feel obligated" to explain that they're not in the mafia or a drug cartel. Honestly WHO assumes that?? So yeah, I don't think everyone thinks they way that you do.
Also, I don't think Will Smith would have done to a white person what he did to Chris Rock. I think he felt safer to do that to a black person. He probably believes that white people do not take black-on-black violence as seriously as they would black-on-white violence. Does that make Will Smith a racist?
Tbh I feel like he would have been less likely to do it to a white person too, but not because he necessarily felt like there would be less repercussions for hitting a black dude but because he simply felt more comfortable doing it to another black dude. I don't know if Will believes that white people take black-on-black crime less seriously than they do black-on-white crime, but if he does no I would not find that to be racist of him.
I believe that if Will Smith had assaulted a white person, his ass would have been arrested immediately.
I do not believe this.
But, when it's black-on-black violence, white people are not sure what to do. They panic and get confused. Their brain goes like this: "Maybe it's a black thing? Should we get involved? Should we let the black people resolve it like it's a family thing? Oh no, how bad will it look if we have a famous black actor escorted out of here? Shit, damn! We'll get boycotted again! What if Will Smith resists arrest ends up getting shot by some stupid-ass cop? Shit, damn! There's no good outcome here!!!... Better to be criticized for doing nothing."
I feel like Will being kind of 'tip-toed' around has more to do with him being such a long-time beloved figure and the fact that it was at the end of the day a very minor assault. He didn't knock teeth out, he didn't pummel him repeatedly, he didn't try to strangle him. I 100% believe that if say it was Chris Brown instead, things would have went very differently.
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 06:28 PM
Also, I don't think Will Smith would have done to a white person what he did to Chris Rock. Does that make Will Smith a racist?
You edited this, but it reminded me of how Will HAS smacked a white person. The comedian or whatever who was hugging him and kissed him multiple times on a red carpet as part of a gag. Granted the comedian was the one who instigated it and it was a light smack, but I think it illustrates that Will does not have any trepidation or deep-seated fear of being seen acting violently towards white people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cBRfjcY9SQ&ab_channel=HipHollywood
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 06:35 PM
Him taking his anger out on another man (by slapping him) after joking negatively about his wife is better than slapping his wife who supposedly emasculates him.
Ummm, what?
miss.a.p1600
04-04-2022, 07:39 PM
Ummm, what?
um what?
It’s called Misplaced Anger
https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/anger/the-danger-of-misplaced-anger/
If he really was angry at his wife for emasculating him in public, as others have suggested, his problem is with her. He obviously can’t be violent towards his wife and kids so he instead blows up at a man who ‘insults’ her.
it’s the lesser of the two ‘evils’
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 08:09 PM
^^^Yeah but he co-signs everything she says, endorses her Red Table Talk and has even appeared on it, so he must not be too upset with her. There’s infinite other negative reactions Will could have had to this situation, assuming that one of them would be him ‘slapping Jada’ is very random and……weird.
miss.a.p1600
04-04-2022, 08:10 PM
That’s not weird considering the prevalence of domestic violence.
Whats weird is your constant condescending remarks after everyone one of my posts.
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 08:17 PM
That’s not weird considering the prevalence of domestic violence.
Whats weird is your constant condescending remars
No I think what’s weird are your constant misogynistic comments, like randomly saying stuff like how it’s better that Will slapped Chris instead of Jada. ?
miss.a.p1600
04-04-2022, 09:33 PM
No I think what’s weird are your constant misogynistic comments, like randomly saying stuff like how it’s better that Will slapped Chris instead of Jada. ?
If you interpret that as misogynistic you are more than welcome to go back to ignoring my posts.
It’s weird you feel the constant obsession to correct what I post and your laser focused biased prevents you from comprehending anything I post and automatically jump to your little conclusions.
It’s also weird you get triggered by everything I post, especially when my posts have nothing to do with you.
Are you a moderator or the PC police?
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 09:42 PM
^^^I’m not sure why it seems to so personally offend you when you are disagreed with, you are still welcome to respond to my rebuttal and you are also welcome to not post anything that you feel sensitive enough about to where you can’t tolerate any disagreement….on a message board. Also, how has anything I have said have to do with political correctness?
If you have a personal issue you are welcome to PM me. I’m down to FaceTime as well.
miss.a.p1600
04-04-2022, 09:47 PM
You can respectfully disagree I don’t have a problem with that.
But your slick insults added into your disagreements show more about your inability to offer meaningful conversation.
You have no clue how I feel so stop trying to make assumptions. If I assumed how you feel I’d assume you have misdirected anger too since you’re constantly replying to my comments with condescension and unable to convey your thoughts in an educated non biased factual manner.
Not sure what you’re so angry about and what ax you have to grind with me but I haven’t said anything to you directly so you can calm down now because as I said I don’t have any issues with you.
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 09:48 PM
^^^Where is the slick insult?
miss.a.p1600
04-04-2022, 10:05 PM
Are you really going to play this game?
Girl I’m going to bed.
Troll some other members.
I rather not waste my time any further.
Genoveve
04-04-2022, 10:35 PM
It’s not a game, it’s you literally making false accusations now. Insulted you how? Because I said I found what you said to be random and weird? I did and that was a flat-out statement, not a ‘slick insult.’ Because I said “Ummm, what?” That’s very typical of my writing/speaking style and I’m not sure how that could be perceived as a ‘slick insult’ either. That’s like my version of ‘Hold up—-WHAT??’ So yeah, if you can’t handle being debated on a discussion forum I don’t know what to tell you.
jack0177057
04-05-2022, 10:41 AM
You edited this, but it reminded me of how Will HAS smacked a white person. The comedian or whatever who was hugging him and kissed him multiple times on a red carpet as part of a gag. Granted the comedian was the one who instigated it and it was a light smack, but I think it illustrates that Will does not have any trepidation or deep-seated fear of being seen acting violently towards white people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cBRfjcY9SQ&ab_channel=HipHollywood
The two incidents are not comparable. The white dude (who is a small time celebrity that many people despise for his offensive antics) was lightly smacked and this did not happen in the middle of the Oscars while the victim was on stage with millions of viewers watching.
Genoveve
04-05-2022, 10:45 AM
^^^It’s still black-on-white ‘violence’ that occurred on a red carpet in front of tons of cameras that he knew the world would see.
jack0177057
04-05-2022, 10:59 AM
^^^Yeah but he co-signs everything she says, endorses her Red Table Talk and has even appeared on it, so he must not be too upset with her. There’s infinite other negative reactions Will could have had to this situation, assuming that one of them would be him ‘slapping Jada’ is very random and……weird.
There is definitely some tension in his feelings about Jada's (consentual) affair.
Let me explain Miss' point with an example. Suppose a guy, Adam, dates a dancer, Jane, and he really likes her and he is fine with her dancing. But, within a few days his friends start teasing him about it. He is chilling with his friends and one of them, Steve, asks him, "Dude, you let your girl grind on other dudes' junk? Man, I would never put up with that shit from my lady!" Another friend says, "Yo Adam, I'm going to see your girl tonight. I'm bringing lots of cash, bruh. Can't wait for her to rub them titties on my face like she did last time." Another friend asks him, "Yo Adam, does she have sex with guys in the VIP room? I've heard strippers do everything in the VIP room."
In this example, Adam ends up resenting Jane, even though he had no issue with her dancing. The comments from his peers have been negative and emasculating. Eventually, one more joke is going to push him over the edge Adam is going to blow up at either Jane or the comedian that jokes about Jane's stripper hair.
jack0177057
04-05-2022, 11:06 AM
^^^It’s still black-on-white ‘violence’ that occurred on a red carpet in front of tons of cameras that he knew the world would see.
If you think it's the same thing, how come hardly no one has talked about it until now? It was not the 'slap heard across the world'.
I am sure Will has slapped a lot of insignificant little people, black and white. My comment was specific to the situation - Oscars, live on TV, in front of millions, assault on a major star.
Genoveve
04-05-2022, 11:07 AM
There is definitely some tension in his feelings about Jada's (consentual) affair.
Let me explain Miss' point with an example. Suppose a guy, Adam, dates a dancer, Jane, and he really likes her and he is fine with her dancing. But, within a few days his friends start teasing him about it. He is chilling with his friends and one of them, Steve, asks him, "Dude, you let your girl grind on other dudes' junk? Man, I would never put up with that shit from my lady!" Another friend says, "Yo Adam, I'm going to see your girl tonight. I'm bringing lots of cash, bruh. Can't wait for her to rub them titties on my face like she did last time." Another friend asks him, "Yo Adam, does she have sex with guys in the VIP room? I've heard strippers do everything in the VIP room."
In this example, Adam ends up resenting Jane, even though he had no issue with her dancing. The comments from his peers have been negative and emasculating. Eventually, one more joke is going to push him over the edge Adam is going to blow up at either Jane or the comedian that jokes about Jane's stripper hair.
I said in my initial post in this thread pages back that I felt like Will was resentful of his public emasculation. But if by ‘explaining P’s point’ you’re trying to show me why Will is likely resentful specifically towards Jada, you didn’t.
Genoveve
04-05-2022, 11:24 AM
If you think it's the same thing, how come hardly no one has talked about it until now? It was not the 'slap heard across the world'.
I didn't say it was the same thing, I said:
Granted the comedian was the one who instigated it and it was a light smack
I am sure Will has slapped a lot of insignificant little people, black and white. My comment was specific to the situation - Oscars, live on TV, in front of millions, assault on a major star.
You said that you don't think Will would have done it to a white person because he assumes white people would take 'black-on-white crime' more serious, which implies that Will has a deep-seated fear of 'acting up against white folks' and the repercussions, but him smacking this white media figure on a red carpet in front of tons of cameras and media, especially when he did it after a pause and did it solely to son him, shows he must not be that scared.
jack0177057
04-05-2022, 11:39 AM
I said in my initial post in this thread pages back that I felt like Will was resentful of his public emasculation. But if by ‘explaining P’s point’ you’re trying to show me why Will is likely resentful specifically towards Jada, you didn’t.
If people were purely logical beings, it would be impossible for Will to resent Jada, because Will consented to her affair. But, people are not purely logical. Anyway, how do we even know he really 'consented'? Do you really believe Jada would not have had a romantic/sexual relationship with August, unless Will gave his "consent" to it? Give me a break! It was more like an ultimatum. Will had two options: he could consent and make this a story about an open-minded enlightened Will Smith, or, if he did not consent, Jada would have had the affair anyway, and the story would have been about Will Smith being a sad cuckold.
Even assuming Will did consent, people are emotional beings. The public emasculation may cause him to reconsider or see things in a different light. Moreover, in her interview, Jada said very unflattering things about Will and she said August made her feel alive and happy again. Those words must sting every time the subject is brought up.
I have no doubt that Will has some resentment against Jada.
Another possible theory: It just came out that August is going to publish a book about the affair. Surely, Jada had advanced notice of this and shared the information with Will. Could this have played a role? I suspect the book will be a damsel in distress story about Jada stuck in a loveless marriage to Will and how August rescued Jada by making her feel alive and happy again. The book will emasculate Will and leave him desperate to prove his masculinity. Suddenly, he gets the opportunity to 'stand up' for his wife as her protector in front of the whole world. He also gets to make a speech about how love makes you do crazy things. The timing, right before the launch of August's book, could not be more perfect.