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indiegirl
04-20-2022, 01:45 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/johnny-depp-trial-security-guard-235007810.html
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/johnny-depp-trial-personal-doctor-162837618.html

Aaaand JD takes the stand!
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/johnny-depp-stand-tomorrow-50m-185043495.html

I honestly couldn't watch the entire moment he was on the stand. I felt like I was invading his privacy with all the private information he was revealing about his family growing up. He's always been a private person.

whirlerz
04-20-2022, 06:19 AM
I know what you mean, I kinda had to stop watching it too

SnuffleUffleGrass
04-20-2022, 01:44 PM
Man this stuff is sad to hear about.......

On topic a couple of my male friends have had to break up with people like Heard & it's never easy. Some people are just flawed and unfixable.

whirlerz
04-20-2022, 02:18 PM
Man this stuff is sad to hear about.......

On topic a couple of my male friends have had to break up with people like Heard & it's never easy. Some people are just flawed and unfixable.

Yep, you left out narcissistic/psychopathic too^.

miss.a.p1600
04-21-2022, 08:14 AM
I’m really confused. I haven’t caught up on the latest but last I heard she was allegedly a DV victim.

Now she’s supposedly the abuser? How did everyone come to the conclusion she’s a narcissist and initiated the abuse? What the heck happened here? I guess I’m going to read a cliff notes somewhere but this is sad to hear.

Good thing they ended it and parted ways from each other.

miss.a.p1600
04-21-2022, 08:18 AM
Amber attempted to gold dig and it didn't work out.

Boo hoo.

It's a shame this the way Depp's career ends.

I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere where she donated her multi million divorce settlement to the DV shelters

Thus attempting to shoot down rumors of her being a gold digger and attempt to portray the victim role

DeathAndTaxes
04-21-2022, 08:46 AM
I could be wrong but I thought I read somewhere where she donated her multi million divorce settlement to the DV shelters

Thus attempting to shoot down rumors of her being a gold digger and attempt to portray the victim role

This has not happened

https://www.eonline.com/news/1225154/amber-heard-responds-to-claim-she-failed-to-donate-s7-million-johnny-depp-divorce-settlement

She definitely broke her promise.

Genoveve
04-21-2022, 08:49 AM
I’m really confused. I haven’t caught up on the latest but last I heard she was allegedly a DV victim.

Now she’s supposedly the abuser? How did everyone come to the conclusion she’s a narcissist and initiated the abuse? What the heck happened here? I guess I’m going to read a cliff notes somewhere but this is sad to hear.

You didn’t read any of the thread you posted in?

Genoveve
04-21-2022, 12:33 PM
some people are even mellow and sleepy, the complete opposite effect, if he was riding a high he probably was even more passive.

This is what multiple people have testified so far, that he acts the same and if anything he's just sleepier. Johnny said on the stand that he has always been known for his high tolerance and for being able to be high or drunk AF with other people being unable to tell, which is believable to me because I'm the same way as are my parents.

When Johnny's bodyguard was on the stand there was a part that annoyed me; the defense was asking him if he would ever or had ever prevented someone from contacting the authorities and he said no, then they showed texts between him and Johnny (which were more recent and occurred post-Amber) where Johnny was telling him about how drunk and rowdy him and his friends got while out somewhere, I forget where I guess a restaurant, basically telling him what a fun, crazy time they had. Then the bodyguard texted back something like 'Glad you had a good time,' and "I prevented them from calling the popo." They were highlighting this obviously to make him look like a dangerous crook who would choose Johnny over the law and justice, but I think it was pretty obviously just him meaning he smoothed over the situation with an annoyed restaurant staff. Again it came off to me as the defense splitting hairs. There was a point too where he showed anger about Amber's actions and had to be reprimanded by the judge, but like with the other witnesses to me it didn't come off as conspiratorial to Amber but like he just cared that much about defending Johnny.

One incident that Johnny shared on the stand that was to me was extremely scary happened when, after attacking him again, he had Amber in a bear hug trying to prevent her from continuing to punch him repeatedly. While in the bear hug she still kept jumping and kicking and at one point their heads made contact and she accused him of headbutting her and took off. He said she came back holding a bloody kleenex over her nose and saying he broke it by headbutting her, he said he knew that that made no sense because he didn't headbutt her and there's no way that when their heads collided they could have done it in a way to where her nose was hit let alone broken and she refused to remove the kleenex to let him examine the injury. Later when she threw the kleenex in the trash he went and examined it because of his suspicions and he said that the blood was nail polish.

Two things he testified about made me really sad: 1.) how he said Amber would tell him what a horrible father he was and how his kids didn't like him or were ashamed of him and 2.) how she denied him his opioid withdrawal meds when he needed them. He said that there were meds he was supposed to be given when his withdrawal symptoms got heavy, there was a point where they did and so he told Amber he needed them and she refused saying it wasn't time. He said that the medicine wasn't a timed thing and was to be administered on an as-needed basis but she kept refusing saying it wasn't time. He said that he was visibly convulsing, on the floor, crying in agony and was even begging her "please" which he said was officially the lowest point of his life. He said he then had to go take a scalding hot shower because causing pain is apparently a way to trick the pain receptors because then they have to focus somewhere else. After this he and his medical team had to come up with a new detox plan away from Amber which she threw a fit about and is a whole different story.

They played the infamous tape where Amber admits to hitting Johnny and can be heard belittling him, telling him that she's better than him because she's the confrontational one and all he does is run away, and yelling at him that he's a "fucking crybaby," which backed up what everyone has testified so far about her being an instigator and her demeaning him.

She also STILL has the same constant, weird expression I mentioned a few days ago where it looks like she's just so extremely focused on controlling what her expression looks like. I see lots of people pointing out how throughout Jonny's entire testimonies she sits up straight with her shoulders squared at him, staring directly at him. To me this body language contradicts her forced facial expression and is more in line with and unintentionally indicative of her true confrontational nature and anger issues.

DeathAndTaxes
04-21-2022, 02:35 PM
This is what multiple people have testified so far, that he acts the same and if anything he's just sleepier. Johnny said on the stand that he has always been known for his high tolerance and for being able to be high or drunk AF with other people being unable to tell, which is believable to me because I'm the same way as are my parents.

Yeah popular culture expects a certain behavior from those drunk and high, those that escape the tropes can easily fool people with preconceived notions.

Looking through twitter, not going to lie these were extremely witty responses

https://twitter.com/JayShams/status/1517154918200664064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1517154918200664064%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=


Amber Heard's lawyer grills Johnny Depp about whether he took drugs with Marilyn Manson.

“I once gave Marilyn Manson a pill so that he would stop talking so much.” Depp testifies.


Asked if Depp drank whiskey in the mornings while shooting "The Lone Ranger," he answered, "Isn’t happy hour anytime?"


Johnny Depp says it's unlikely he kept cocaine in this metal box with "Property of JD" on it, depicted next to lines of cocaine.

"When you put it in a box like that, chances are very good you’ll leave a trail of a long line of cocaine behind you walking down the street,"


Amber Heard lawyer shows photo of marijuana in Johnny Depp's recording studio.

"This is a photo of 4 pretty huge bags of marijuana, yes?" he asks.

"Yes sir, that’s a lot of marijuana," Depp testifies.


Amber Heard lawyer: "You've trashed hotel rooms simply because you had a bad couple of days and an unpleasant time, right?"

Johnny Depp: "I have assaulted a couch or two, yes sir."

techqueen
04-22-2022, 06:15 AM
Amber Heard is clearly the aggressor/abuser. Anyone with half a brain knows this. I hope he can save his career after this.

SnuffleUffleGrass
04-22-2022, 07:50 AM
Amber Heard is clearly the aggressor/abuser. Anyone with half a brain knows this. I hope he can save his career after this.

Someone who grew up with Amber characterized her as not too bright. IMO a lot of sociopaths just come off this way as they don't know how to act appropriately.

Sam38g
04-22-2022, 03:53 PM
Living with someone who is an alcoholic & drug user very much can be a toxic & abusive situation. Can't see how we dismiss that at all. Him recording them fighting is easy for him to act all victim and her the aggressor. Alcoholics are unhappy people and when they get drunk easily turn mean. If he was doing coke & staying up for days, those aren't great people to be around either.

He said the sex was amazing. Men will tolerate almost anything for amazing sex, sooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Seems like they are both very toxic people who should have sought out therapy rather than getting married to work out their demons.

Genoveve
04-22-2022, 04:10 PM
Him recording them fighting is easy for him to act all victim and her the aggressor.

Her recordings are being used as well.


Living with someone who is an alcoholic & drug user very much can be a toxic & abusive situation. Can't see how we dismiss that at all..... Alcoholics are unhappy people and when they get drunk easily turn mean. If he was doing coke & staying up for days, those aren't great people to be around either.

I don't think anyone is dismissing his drug use and drinking or dismissing the toxicity of the situation. I'm definitely not dismissing the multiple people who have testified about Amber's drug use and drinking either.

Genoveve
04-22-2022, 09:06 PM
Looking through twitter, not going to lie these were extremely witty responses

I'm maybe halfway through his cross-examination and he is definitely handling it with a lot of grace, calm and wit. The defense lawyer keeps trying to trip him up and corner him into admitting things with not very much success. I'm not sure that the defense lawyer is using the best approach with him; I think Johnny has been coming off as very soft-spoken, sensitive and likeable and the defense lawyer is being your typical aggressive, condescending, hardball attorney which makes him just seem unlikable. I especially don't think it comes off great while he's defending someone accused of being aggressive and condescending.

What was really confusing to me was how the defense opened with challenging Johnny about who Amber's defamatory domestic abuse article was about, trying to get him to agree that he couldn't prove it was about him thus nullifying his entire lawsuit I guess. That was weird to me because if Johnny is falsely accusing Amber of defaming him, wouldn't she be able to thwart his claims by publicly stating or proving that it wasn't about him? And then why the whole rest of the trial where they are trying to prove that he was indeed an abuser and guilty of what was written in the article if the article is apparently not about him?

It was annoying too because again there was tons of splitting hairs with asking him about texts where he is discussing drug use to prove his drug use----when he has admitted to his drug use. Again, we.know.he.did.drugs. He testified at length about it. The fact that they spent SO much time on this makes me feel like they can't have very much ammo against him. They shared vulgar texts of his out-of-context to make him look evil I guess, it didn't work for me. If you looked at some of my LIGHTHEARTED texts to my friends out of context I would look way worse. There were no texts that mentioned anything about him physically harming Amber btw.

Something really interesting to me was how it was ONLY in the sneaky recording Amber made were she was hiding the fact that she was recording Johnny that she sounded upset in a sad, timid, soft-spoken kind of way. In every other recording she sounds angry and aggressive. There was another recording the defense used that I think may not have been a good idea for them because even though there was something they wanted the jury hear to make Johnny look bad (I forget what it was), what stood out was Amber's anger and condescension.

miss.a.p1600
04-23-2022, 05:05 AM
This has not happened

https://www.eonline.com/news/1225154/amber-heard-responds-to-claim-she-failed-to-donate-s7-million-johnny-depp-divorce-settlement

She definitely broke her promise.

well I could be misreading but it says she “pledged” 7 mill so technically she hasn’t broken the promise yet. Maybe the pledge didn’t have a specific time frame so She can run that money to the charity anytime during her life or even her death through asset transfer.

She’s claiming since Johnny is suing her she’s now using the settlement money, that was intended for the charity, for legal fees. Well I hope she countersues for the money back and gives it all to the charity if by some chance she’s found innocent of defamation

To get it out of the way I do think she should have given it on one lump sum right at the beginning.

miss.a.p1600
04-23-2022, 05:17 AM
You didn’t read any of the thread you posted in?

Does anyone truly go back and read multiple pages of the threads they post in?

I skimmed it but diving in to really figure it out, I’m getting there. This is time consuming lol!

i just remember a while back during their divorce she filmed him, had him looking like the bad guy and herself like a battered woman, and everyone rallied around her and now years later the tables are turning so I was confused how it got to this point.

i see where people have been calling her a narcissist etc and if that’s true I could see how easy it would be for a person with this characteristic to manipulate the narrative. I saw a clip of the trial when they asked him why did he stay with her if she was so abusive to him and he blamed the behaviors role modeled by his parents. Amber also claimed Johnny abused her physically and emotionally before and during the marriage. So why would she continue on as well? unfortunately two spiritually unhealthy people attracting each other and it’s a good thing they ended it sooner rather than later.

The thing that strikes me as odd is I don’t recall people saying anything negative about her character up until now so I wonder if this is true or some scorned people looking for clout.

It’s hard to know what to believe.

Im going back and reviewing this dramatic mess on different sites and the sources forum members posted.

Ugh I feel like I should invoice them both for my time or save myself the headache and just pick up a cliff notes version on the tabloid news stand.

miss.a.p1600
04-23-2022, 05:53 AM
Found some cliff notes timeline from the tabloids

https://www.etonline.com/news/189603_johnny_depp_and_amber_heard_to_divorce_a_ti meline

Vyanka
04-23-2022, 09:24 AM
She severed his finger, took a shit on his side of the bed, and pushed him mentally while he was feeling suicidal, pushed him on edge after his mother died, enabled him to drink and do drugs while he was trying to get clean, cheated on him with Elon Musk and James Franco, lie about the bruises being covered by Milani makeup(they called her out on her bullshit).... the woman did nothing but lied about being hit by Johnny, and acted like a monster. All because he didn't put her name on his will?

I hope her career flops!

Genoveve
04-23-2022, 09:50 AM
well I could be misreading but it says she “pledged” 7 mill so technically she hasn’t broken the promise yet. Maybe the pledge didn’t have a specific time frame so She can run that money to the charity anytime during her life or even her death through asset transfer.

She’s claiming since Johnny is suing her she’s now using the settlement money, that was intended for the charity, for legal fees. Well I hope she countersues for the money back and gives it all to the charity if by some chance she’s found innocent of defamation

To get it out of the way I do think she should have given it on one lump sum right at the beginning.

Well……


She also lied about donating her $7 million settlement to charity; her team has been saying recently that it's because the donations were pledges that she hasn't been able to fulfill yet because of the litigation costs with Johnny, but she had the money for like a year before Johnny sued her and she also said in an interview before the lawsuit that she had already "donated" the money.

whirlerz
04-23-2022, 09:52 AM
She severed his finger, took a shit on his side of the bed, and pushed him mentally while he was feeling suicidal, pushed him on edge after his mother died, enabled him to drink and do drugs while he was trying to get clean, cheated on him with Elon Musk and James Franco, lie about the bruises being covered by Milani makeup(they called her out on her bullshit).... the woman did nothing but lied about being hit by Johnny, and acted like a monster. All because he didn't put her name on his will?

I hope her career flops!

As if the above wasn't horrible enough, it's alleged (Idk about proof) she also stole $ from him.
He did allow her sis/& friends free rent.

DeathAndTaxes
04-23-2022, 10:24 AM
What was really confusing to me was how the defense opened with challenging Johnny about who Amber's defamatory domestic abuse article was about, trying to get him to agree that he couldn't prove it was about him thus nullifying his entire lawsuit I guess. That was weird to me because if Johnny is falsely accusing Amber of defaming him, wouldn't she be able to thwart his claims by publicly stating or proving that it wasn't about him? And then why the whole rest of the trial where they are trying to prove that he was indeed an abuser and guilty of what was written in the article if the article is apparently not about him?


Yes, defamation is clearly the most interesting theoretical concept of the trial, can you skirt the law by never naming someone directly? but at the same time leave no doubt who you are talking about? The only way out of this paradox is for the accuser to go line by line and state what is factual (lines where he is identified as the perp, beyond reasonable doubt) and what you claim is fiction (lines where the defendant states she is being abused).

miss.a.p1600
04-24-2022, 08:39 AM
She severed his finger, took a shit on his side of the bed, and pushed him mentally while he was feeling suicidal, pushed him on edge after his mother died, enabled him to drink and do drugs while he was trying to get clean, cheated on him with Elon Musk and James Franco, lie about the bruises being covered by Milani makeup(they called her out on her bullshit).... the woman did nothing but lied about being hit by Johnny, and acted like a monster. All because he didn't put her name on his will?

I hope her career flops!

That stuff is horrible.

I don’t think her career was ever that good. I don’t even know who this woman is. Definitely not anywhere near the level of Johnnys career and she probably was seething with jealously. Just like Jada Pickett. Career never was as good as Will’s.

The thing that gets me is how they were both secretly recording each other.

Like the knew somewhere down the line they would need evidence for something.

Once it’s at that point the trust is gone. And then it’s like why come home to that mess. Very Dysfunctional.

I bet money this spins off into a Lifetime movie.

Genoveve
04-24-2022, 10:44 AM
^^^Johnny never secretly recorded Amber. Amber however secretly recorded Johnny.

indiegirl
04-24-2022, 02:41 PM
The look in Amber's face as the camera focuses on her is priceless. It's a mixture of "I could kill this man for making me look bad" and a look of her just holding back as much as she can without shouting at him across the court room.

SnuffleUffleGrass
04-24-2022, 08:33 PM
The look in Amber's face as the camera focuses on her is priceless. It's a mixture of "I could kill this man for making me look bad" and a look of her just holding back as much as she can without shouting at him across the court room.

She can't act.

& To be honest, I'm sure everyone involved with this case is having a lot of self- aware moments now.

miss.a.p1600
04-25-2022, 05:47 AM
^^^Johnny never secretly recorded Amber. Amber however secretly recorded Johnny.

The recording his legal team presented of her admitting to hitting him then minimizing it. Just making sure I understand, when Johnny recorded her she was aware of it?

The behavior she demonstrated in that recording is still gross either way.

miss.a.p1600
04-25-2022, 05:51 AM
Yup it is clearly a fallacy, I honestly don't know why courts allow ad hominems, much less one so flimsy as drunk == violent, some people are even mellow and sleepy, the complete opposite effect, if he was riding a high he probably was even more passive.

It reminds me so much of the similarly illogical short skirt defense, the idea that a victim of sexual assault was signaling consent based on her clothes. A skirt that she could have worn for herself, her friends and/or even a specific man, does not void her ability to consent, but this argument is still allowed in court?

Only recently has past sexual history with third parties, been barred from being used by the defense counsel.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/rape-shield-law

There needs to be something equally comprehensive for all cases.

I blame the War On Drugs for these fallacies.

The government wants you to believe that everyone who uses drugs is a violent, criminal, sex fiend.

miss.a.p1600
04-25-2022, 06:25 AM
The Behavior Arts on YT is a very good analysis of this whole debacle. They have top lawyers and body language experts. And they try to stay unbiased giving objective information.

Genoveve
04-25-2022, 01:19 PM
Just making sure I understand, when Johnny recorded her she was aware of it?

Correct.

Genoveve
04-25-2022, 03:36 PM
Well court resumed today, I'm partway through more of Johnny's cross-examination and it is so annoyingly redundant. Endless out-of-context texts that the defense is unsuccessfully trying to incriminate him with; like at one point the defense pointed out multiple texts where Johnny referred to an argument or arguments between him and Amber as a "bloodbath" to try and prove that he was physically violent......but I have never known anyone to use the word 'bloodbath' in any way other than hyperbolically. And even if he did actually mean it in reference to a violent event between the two of them where tons of blood was spilled, it doesn't prove that he was the one who was violent(like with the vodka bottle/finger incident). They also still keep sharing texts of him where he uses violent, vulgar language to (somehow) prove that he is physically violent, but they shot themselves in the foot because they shared texts from him to Amber at one point for something else where he was again using violent, vulgar language but in an affectionate way. I hope everyone was able to pick up on how that invalidated the whole vulgar texts = violent argument.

There was another really annoying point where the defense was showing multiple texts where Johnny referred to Amber "hitting a wall" and one where he referred to them both "hitting a wall," which.....everyone knows that is a figure of speech. After reading them the lawyer was like 'You said this, correct?' and Johnny said yes and then tried to explain that that was a figure of the speech and the lawyer cut him off telling him that he answered his question. Really not a good look for the defense IMO.

Honestly I think Amber's lawyer, at least the one who has been cross-examining Depp, comes off really bad. He will never let Johnny elaborate on or explain anything, he just keeps trying to nail him on these little technicalities and it looks like he's afraid to let Johnny explain anything. I've also heard him scoff and get annoyed multiple times now when Johnny's team objects to something, and I've listened to 85% of this at 1.5-1.75x speed so who knows how many more little moments like that I missed. I think it makes him look really unlikable and like I said before I'm not sure that he should be wanting to come off as immature or hostile or aggravated considering who he is defending. I also don't think it's a good look because he was CONSTANTLY objecting when Johnny was being questioned by his lawyers, so it seems really inappropriate when he throws fits the few times they do it.

They are still sharing recordings of Johnny's 'abuse' (still no abuse has actually been showed/played) and I still think they just make Amber look bad. She just sounds combative and aggravating in them. I see lots of people saying the same thing in the comments; that she doesn't sound like a frightened woman and Johnny doesn't sound like an aggressive man but rather she sounds like an incessantly provoking woman and he sounds like an extremely frustrated man. Oh AND in some of these recordings, you hear Johnny talking about how he has to walk away from and remove himself from arguments with her.....which back up what him and his witnesses have been saying.

Also, did anyone see how Milani cosmetics came out and debunked one of the defense's claims?

indiegirl
04-25-2022, 08:47 PM
Does amber heard even have 50 million?

EDIT: NOPE she does not. So how does this work? She has to set up a payment plan if this goes bad for her?

eagle2
04-26-2022, 10:53 PM
If she loses, it's possible her insurance could cover her losses. I did a search on her net worth, and according to the internet, it's approximately $8 million. I don't know how accurate it is.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 06:03 AM
^can you explain how insurance covers legal losses? Or are you talking about work insurance covering loses from her day job while she’s in court?

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 06:05 AM
Does amber heard even have 50 million?

EDIT: NOPE she does not. So how does this work? She has to set up a payment plan if this goes bad for her?

She’ll just claim bankruptcy whilst moving what money she does have to offshore accounts.

I highly doubt she’ll pay dude a dime.

I don’t think he even cares to get a dollar out of her it’s just the principle and him trying to hold her accountable….publicly


It does seem like the courts would cap the award amount to the persons/their business net worth.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 08:37 AM
^claiming bankruptcy might also absolve her from that remaining balance from the charity she pledged 7 m’s

She was so wrong to set up a payment plan of monthly pledges knowing good and damn well she was never going to finish paying it in entirety……..

Greedy low moral people aren’t good philanthropists.

SnuffleUffleGrass
04-27-2022, 08:41 AM
^claiming bankruptcy might also absolve her from that remaining balance from the charity she pledged 7 m’s

She was so wrong to set up a payment plan of monthly pledges knowing good and damn well she was never going to finish paying it in entirety……..

Greedy low moral people aren’t good philanthropists.


SO true.

BTW California has a lot of laws that protect people like Johnny Depp from being preyed on so I kind of wonder what Amber Heard was thinking in the first place.

It's telling that Depp's daughter boycotted their wedding. Despite the wealth and fame of the parties involved, some family life truths are universal.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 08:48 AM
^i was wondering where was his team to prevent a leeching person from getting that close to him.

He was blinded by her booty, I mean her beauty lol! And they probably couldn’t do much to stop the train wreck he chose to allow.

But turns out, if this stuff is true, that she’s ugly on the inside which negates her outer physical appearance.

If these things about her are accurate then it’s good he got out quickly.

SnuffleUffleGrass
04-27-2022, 09:01 AM
^i was wondering where was his team to prevent a leeching person from getting that close to him.

He was blinded by her booty, I mean her beauty lol! And they probably couldn’t do much to stop the train wreck he chose to allow.

But turns out, if this stuff is true, that she’s ugly on the inside which negates her outer physical appearance.

If these things about her are accurate then it’s good he got out quickly.

The American public is blissfully unaware that many celebrity marriages are business-oriented. Marriage in general isn't intended to be based on romantic love only.

Very similar dynamic in the music industry as well.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 10:10 AM
^oh I’m aware. I’m the same way. Marrying for love is A LOT of work and headache because most times these men aren’t ambitious and aren’t trying to build generational wealth. They’re too busy delusionally thinking “love conquers all!”

People like Brittany and Rihanna and Kylie trying to marry for love and look how they’re faring with those men.

Johnny was probably trying to marry for love and got burned. You just don’t often see wealthy men marrying for love and getting their souls ripped out by cunty women because it’s usually the other way around and mens egos won’t let them publicly accept loss.

Rob Kardashian is another dude who took an L / probably married for love and got sucked in by a ratchet woman who didn’t really love him.

Jay z and Beyonce married for business and got it right.

slowpoke
04-27-2022, 10:33 AM
She’ll just claim bankruptcy whilst moving what money she does have to offshore accounts.

I highly doubt she’ll pay dude a dime.



You can not discharge a tort in bankruptcy.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 11:19 AM
You can not discharge a tort in bankruptcy.

You have a LOT of unsavory people out here in these streets. Apparently the world now thinks she qualifies as unsavory.

If they don’t want to pay, they’ll do anything (even resort to illegal tactics) to avoid paying out.

I bet money this broad will figure a way out of paying what she owes (if she loses her case). She probably out here restructuring her assets as we speak.

SnuffleUffleGrass
04-27-2022, 11:31 AM
You have a LOT of unsavory people out here in these streets. Apparently the world now thinks she qualifies as unsavory.

If they don’t want to pay, they’ll do anything (even resort to illegal tactics) to avoid paying out.

I bet money this broad will figure a way out of paying what she owes (if she loses her case). She probably out here restructuring her assets as we speak.

There's footage of her laughing at hecklers outside the courtroom. This is all funny to her. When people don't care about how they hurt others, they don't feel guilt.

The same applies in everyday cases as well, my friend's nephew was killed by a negligent driver and no restitution was available because the driver was a broke loser (and a drug informant to boot.) In this life we have to stop abusive people when we witness abuse, otherwise they keep doing what they do.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 11:48 AM
^exactly. I agree she should be sued simply off the principle.

She’s laughing because she’s still winning. She’s making more money and has higher status than the hecklers she looks down upon.

If she’s as demonic as people are making her out to be then this court case is just bringing her much needed attention and she’s basking in it……..getting her much needed narcissistic supply.

Nobody knew this Amber heard broad until this court case.

Johnny bringing attention to it and trying to hold her accountable could backfire and it’s possible that she gains more notoriety, won’t be held accountable, or be blacklisted from Hollywood but at least he is doing the right thing by speaking his truth and setting the record straight and showing the world her nasty behaviors.

eagle2
04-27-2022, 01:02 PM
^can you explain how insurance covers legal losses? Or are you talking about work insurance covering loses from her day job while she’s in court?

https://www.allstate.com/tr/personal-umbrella-policy/libel-slander-liability.aspx

slowpoke
04-27-2022, 02:56 PM
https://www.wolfflaw.com/what-are-a-creditor-s-rights-and-remedies-when-a-debtor-fraudule.html

Genoveve
04-27-2022, 03:17 PM
Johnny bringing attention to it and trying to hold her accountable could backfire and it’s possible that she gains more notoriety, won’t be held accountable, or be blacklisted from Hollywood.

Unless Amber's witnesses are REALLY convincing I don't think it will backfire because he's already been blacklisted. Also with how quick Hollywood was to blacklist him and how supportive Hollywood and the media have been to Amber, even if Johnny wins the case I don't see Hollywood and the media shouting the news from the rooftops and doing a 180, embracing him all of the sudden. I think the public seeing all of the facts for themselves, turning against Amber and siding with him is the best that he can hope for and so far he has definitely been achieving it. There was a recording where Amber was crying to Johnny about how her reputation and credibility had been ruined because of the claims she made back from sometime after she got the restraining order(yes, she set up a meeting between the two of them even though she had a restraining order placed on him), if she was worried about her reputation back then imagine how she's feeling now.


He was blinded by her booty, I mean her beauty lol! And they probably couldn’t do much to stop the train wreck he chose to allow.

Ngl I had similar sentiments but I had to check my sexism. Like when I was listening to their recordings and hearing how whiny Amber was and how she would just bitch and moan at him and criticize him over and over and over.... I was eyerolling so hard and thinking about Johnny stuff like 'Omg was the :black_cat THAT good??' 'Was the midlife crisis THAT bad??' like really judging him and losing respect for him for putting up with her, but if the roles were reversed I wouldn't be thinking like that about a woman who was being abused. I would have more empathy for a woman because I would be thinking about how they were most likely raised by abusers and have a different tolerance for abusive behavior and a different idea of what's normal in a relationship...etc. When really for Johnny it's the same; he was raised by abusers.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 03:32 PM
^i know it’s easy to say from outside looking in but if he realizes he still suffers from abuse he endured in childhood I hope he seeks therapy before marrying again.

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 03:36 PM
If she loses, it's possible her insurance could cover her losses. I did a search on her net worth, and according to the internet, it's approximately $8 million. I don't know how accurate it is.


https://www.allstate.com/tr/personal-umbrella-policy/libel-slander-liability.aspx

This seems like it would cover her ass in this instance IF she purchase the insurance BEFORE all this happened.

whats the chance she has this though?

Most people think they’re untouchable and don’t get insurance when they really need it then start trying to get it after the fact

eagle2
04-27-2022, 04:00 PM
Yes, it depends on whether or not she has insurance. I would think that someone with a lot of wealth would do as much as he or she can to protect it, but you never know. A lot of wealthy people have made foolish mistakes.