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DeathAndTaxes
04-27-2022, 07:39 PM
He was blinded by her booty, I mean her beauty lol! And they probably couldn’t do much to stop the train wreck he chose to allow.


Ngl I had similar sentiments but I had to check my sexism. Like when I was listening to their recordings and hearing how whiny Amber was and how she would just bitch and moan at him and criticize him over and over and over.... I was eyerolling so hard and thinking about Johnny stuff like 'Omg was the THAT good??' 'Was the midlife crisis THAT bad??'

Lol, to be fair now that I know who she really is I would never fuck her, even if she begged and pleaded or ahem tipped. I do wish she seeks help though, but I am not a psychiatrist to know if someone is healed or not.

indiegirl
04-27-2022, 08:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l04R6SEtBY

BAHAHAHA did anyone see the one witness vaping and driving without a seatbelt while being interviewed?! I couldn't believe he was doing that knowing how much publicity this story has LOLLL. The judge's reaction afterwards was priceless.

whirlerz
04-27-2022, 08:29 PM
I'm going to watch it now, &btw check out popcorn planet on you tube for great info, comments, etc

miss.a.p1600
04-27-2022, 08:45 PM
Lol, to be fair now that I know who she really is I would never fuck her, even if she begged and pleaded or ahem tipped. I do wish she seeks help though, but I am not a psychiatrist to know if someone is healed or not.

if she is a narcissist like people are alleging then most likely she won’t get therapy unless court ordered

DeathAndTaxes
04-27-2022, 08:50 PM
if she is a narcissist like people are alleging then most likely she won’t get therapy unless court ordered

Yeah most likely, oh well her loss :D

indiegirl
04-27-2022, 09:07 PM
if she is a narcissist like people are alleging then most likely she won’t get therapy unless court ordered

Apparently she was said to be diagnosed with histrionic and borderline personality disorder in court. It's wild how accurate the description was of Amber when the person took the stand and diagnosed her. She didn't even know the details at the time on what she did to Johnny Depp I believe.

indiegirl
04-28-2022, 01:19 AM
^i was wondering where was his team to prevent a leeching person from getting that close to him.

He was blinded by her booty, I mean her beauty lol! And they probably couldn’t do much to stop the train wreck he chose to allow.

But turns out, if this stuff is true, that she’s ugly on the inside which negates her outer physical appearance.

If these things about her are accurate then it’s good he got out quickly.

Heck, Elon Musk even fell for her!!! He's a very smart man. Thankfully he finally came to his senses quickly and got outta there before there was irreparable damage.

miss.a.p1600
04-28-2022, 01:00 PM
https://youtu.be/sP4O66VWR_I

DeathAndTaxes
04-28-2022, 02:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1519700496860303360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1519700496860303360%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

So the ACLU was also responsible for drafting the op-ed, since Amber was a brand ambassador. I wonder if this has legal ramifications for them as well.

DeathAndTaxes
04-28-2022, 03:21 PM
I keep going back to the incident in 2009 where Heard was arrested for assaulting Tasya van Ree, the latter denies it but they are friends to this day, however the officer that arrested her witnessed the assault since it happened in an airport (which rarely happens in domestic assault cases)


Leonard then responded on her Facebook page, which seems to be deleted now: “I'm not sure who of you leaked to TMZ my pics but I wanted to personally thank you for setting the record straight...pun intended. I am so not homophobic or [sic] mysoginistic! The arrest was made because an assault occurred (I witnessed it) and the parties were in a domestic relationship. PS...if you got paid, I want a cut.”

Besides, at the time, TMZ had reported that Leonard “is an openly gay woman who also contributed money to a domestic violence organization.” It added, “She proudly posted pics of herself and her partner. She's also posted pics of herself at Pride weekend. Leonard also supported an organization in Seattle that helps women who were victims of domestic violence.”

https://meaww.com/where-is-beverly-leonard-cop-arrested-amber-heard-in-2009-for-domestic-abuse-could-blow-trial-open

whirlerz
05-03-2022, 03:10 PM
Here's about his new movie, so excited, Idk it was already made!
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/johnny-depp-movie-sale-cannes-103926577.html
*correction, it's a Cannes pre sale, it has been made yet, sounds fantastic tho!

Genoveve
05-03-2022, 04:44 PM
I'm getting caught up in testimonies, got slowed down by some really boring parts. I'm wondering who the hell Amber's witnesses are going to be, I know Elon Musk and James Franco were supposed to be witnesses but they dropped out. There's just SO many witnesses backing up everything Johnny has said and contradicting what Amber has, including multiple cops, that it's going to look really bad if it's just Amber and a couple girlfriends.

Amber fired her PR team and hired a new one, apparently because of all the bad headlines about her. That was weird to me because I haven't seen them, it seems to me that the media is still biased against Johnny. Social media and the general public however have been roasting her, and I don't think any PR team is going to be able to help that. Her image has been ruined despite years of media support, so Idk why she thinks media support is going to fix it.

Her team also tried to get the case dismissed and it didn't work. I'm not sure if this is true but I saw people saying that her day to testify keeps getting pushed back and that the attempt to dismiss was a desperate attempt to avoid having her go on the stand because it will either be a dumpster fire or she will end up perjuring herself, or both.

eagle2
05-03-2022, 05:12 PM
I haven't seen too much of the trial, but from what I've seen, Amber's lawyers don't come across as being very good, especially the one who cross-examined the psychologist hired by Johnny Depp's team.

DeathAndTaxes
05-03-2022, 10:37 PM
I saw good portion of the trial today and it was finally the defense's turn and the psychatrist that they put on the stand made some pretty outrageous statements, that essentially leaving the room and trying to deescalate was irrelevant if they come back, which is nonsense the idea is not to end the argument, it is so they are less heated and less violent.

The motion to dismiss was a longshot, just because the title was written by the Wash Post does not erase the content of the oped. Not to mention try to claim verbal abuse was what he was blackballed for, it was assumed physical or sexual abuse.

DeathAndTaxes
05-04-2022, 12:30 PM
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His jar of cocaine

After seeing her testimony there is a flury of people commenting on her believability which I rather not do since I don't want to ascribe a template on how victims "should" react. That said her testimony was clearly inconsistent here


https://youtu.be/QcECdtVp-T0?t=21449

(5:58:00)

She was held down on the floor and was beaten repeatedly in the face, but the picture she took only only just put emphasis on the arm (ie not her face) but also her face shows no bruises.

techqueen
05-04-2022, 03:43 PM
Amber's acting in this trial is so so so soooo bad! Wow. She's not convincing at all!

Genoveve
05-04-2022, 05:04 PM
^^
^^Only watched a clip of that because I'm still trying to get caught up, but what's weird to me is how she was 'smizing' when talking about the beginnings of her relationship with Johnny. Like if he is this evil, dangerous monster who has physically, sexually, verbally and psychologically abused you and is now trying to bankrupt you and ruin your career I wouldn't think there'd be any reminiscing going on.

I've seen part of the defense's first witness's testimony, another nurse. I'm not sure that she was the best witness for them; 1.) she couldn't recall answers to a lot of things including whether or not Amber was scared of Johnny after the Australia ordeal, 2.) they referenced notes of hers about Amber which directly mentioned Amber's episodes of "rage" and "anger," and 3.) they referenced more notes where, upon finding Amber upset and with a bleeding lip that she said was caused during a fight with Johnny, Amber told her that she had hematomas on her head from the incident as well and had her do an examination......where the nurse said she found none.

indiegirl
05-16-2022, 09:10 PM
ERMAGERDDDDD. I am beyond embarrassed for amber heard after seeing some of this day in court for her. I don't think I'd have the balls to show my face in court with how much she looks like a liar. *Cringe*

Genoveve
05-16-2022, 09:57 PM
^^^I am shocked at how awful her testimonies have been, both examination and cross-examination. I expected the cross-exam to go bad, but not this bad. And I think the examination may have been worse. Can’t wait for tomorrow.

DeathAndTaxes
05-16-2022, 11:30 PM
^^
I missed it today, but I am definitely watching the cross-examination tomorrow for sure. Googling some news I came across this.


Amber Heard’s new PR team called out Johnny Depp’s lawyers for their “shameful” and “desperate” tactics Monday — just hours
before the attorneys were set to cross-examine her.
...
The rep added, “Today, we expect Depp’s attorneys will instead pound away on the victim. We fear it will be equal parts shameful and desperate. And, the overwhelming evidence — the truth — is not on Depp’s side.”
The spokesperson then — in apparent reflection of the “Aquaman” star’s defense — concluded, “The one thing we suspect Depp’s attorneys will avoid is the central issue of this trial: Does Amber or any woman have the First Amendment right of freedom of speech.”


https://pagesix.com/2022/05/16/johnny-depps-lawyers-will-pound-away-on-amber-heard-her-rep/

Her old PR team might have been ineffectual, but this is borderline embarrassing. I cannot believe that it is technically not a fallacy, it still ignores that this trial is huge, not because of the defamation part, but because of the abuse story/redemption arc. The defamation is almost irrelevant at this point, what they are saying is the job of the lawyers not a deaftone public relations, I really don't envy their jobs.

Trying to change the subject back to the actual subject is something I never thought I would argue against lol.

Genoveve
05-17-2022, 01:55 PM
I don't get the whole freedom of speech argument anyway since obviously she has the right to say whatever she wants, hence why she did. But the 5th amendment doesn't doesn't mean you're protected from any consequences or repercussions that may result from your words.

Her cross-examination is painful. It's obvious that every answer she gives is worded in a way to try and avoid committing perjury, which it makes sense why she would do that, but her having to do that plus the extreme and constant calculation that her doing so exhibits just makes her look not at all like an actual victim and more like someone who is just......desperate to avoid perjury. It's crazy too the COMPLETE switch in her personality from the examination to the cross-examination, I haven't seen one other witness do that.

I think too that her confrontational nature and constant attempts at manipulating other people's testimonies during her cross-exam backs up so much of the witnesses' testimonies on her abusive behavior.

SnuffleUffleGrass
05-18-2022, 04:57 AM
ERMAGERDDDDD. I am beyond embarrassed for amber heard after seeing some of this day in court for her. I don't think I'd have the balls to show my face in court with how much she looks like a liar. *Cringe*

"Psychopaths gonna psychopath"

DeathAndTaxes
05-18-2022, 10:34 AM
It's crazy too the COMPLETE switch in her personality from the examination to the cross-examination, I haven't seen one other witness do that.

I think too that her confrontational nature and constant attempts at manipulating other people's testimonies during her cross-exam backs up so much of the witnesses' testimonies on her abusive behavior.

Exactly, I could not put a finger on it but her strategy was so schizo (in colloquial terms of course) first she was emotional and sobbing, then during cross examination so flippant and dismissive, her lawyers must have been tearing their hair out how she proceeded to be dismissive and arrogant as she was turning her head to the jurors, lol, she should have kept looking at Camilla.

indiegirl
05-18-2022, 07:43 PM
The way she said she uses the words pledge and donated synonymously. Bahahaha!!! She is sooooo guilty.

DeathAndTaxes
05-23-2022, 09:32 AM
The witness that is doing the armchair pyschiatrist diagnosis of Johnny Depp put the Goldwater rule into the spotlight.

Basically the rule is in effect to prevent psychiatrists from giving opinions on people they never diagnosed, and while I agree in theory for other expert witnesses, since this field is so soft and subjective I do believe it is always the realm of opinion, and should not be allowed in court.

Essentially anybody can be hired to say anybody is a narcissist, so it should be thrown out. The only grey area in my opinion is if it is court ordered it, but at least you get a few hours person to person...

miss.a.p1600
05-23-2022, 09:48 AM
The way she said she uses the words pledge and donated synonymously. Bahahaha!!! She is sooooo guilty.

Exactly .... like girl just GIVE the damn money you said you would give and quit playing and thinking people are stupid.

She is a horrible philanthropist

indiegirl
05-24-2022, 10:09 AM
Kate Moss is going on the stand via video tomorrow!!

DeathAndTaxes
05-24-2022, 02:50 PM
^^ And all because Heard had to mention her, she thought she could get a way with a vague reference and have the jury google the rumor.

Genoveve
05-24-2022, 05:10 PM
I saw a video today that was talking about how the defense only has 4 hours left to work with, and Johnny's side has 15 left. He apparently still has a bunch of witnesses left that it looks like the defense is apparently not going to have much time to cross-examine.

I thought it was such a bummer that Johnny's team wasn't able to go more in-depth about the domestic abuse situation with Amber's ex, but I'm sure there's legal reasons for why they couldn't.

DeathAndTaxes
05-25-2022, 12:39 AM
I thought it was such a bummer that Johnny's team wasn't able to go more in-depth about the domestic abuse situation with Amber's ex, but I'm sure there's legal reasons for why they couldn't.

I think the biggest problem is having to treat Tasha Van Ree as a hostile witness if they called her, any and all forms of abuse could easily be hand waved by claiming it was consensual, that said her real "explanation" of what happened is just a gaslighting misdirection. Claiming that it was homophobia.

The facts are facts, regardless of who witnessed them.

Genoveve
05-27-2022, 01:00 PM
^^I'm not saying that they should have called the EX as a witness, rather I wish they could have called the cop involved or gone into how the cop had to out herself as a lesbian in order to combat Amber's homophobia accusations.

I think my two favorite witnesses ended up being two that testified the other day; the TMZ dude and the photo expert. The TMZ dude testified that it was Amber/her team leaking info to TMZ which is something that her and her team have always denied and the photo expert testified about how Amber's 'abuse injury photos' were not originals, had been run through photo editing software and that photos she claimed were seperate were actually the same photo just edited. He was great because he was able to clearly and completely discredit the photos and show that she was lying about them, and there was also a painful moment where the defense was trying so hard to back him into answering 'yes' on a certain question and he refused to fold in a way that I thought was really impressive.

The TMZ dude was great too because at some point the defense's only attempt to try and discredit Johnny's witnesses was to make it look like they were only testifying because they knew the trial was televised and wanted their 15 minutes of fame. The defense tried it with him and he argued back that one could say the same thing about him if he was testifying for Amber's side. Then the lawyer replied to that in a goading fashion something like "We're a little argumentative aren't we?" (which was funny because Amber's lawyers have done nothing but turn everyone off with how antaganostic and condescending and flat-out rude they've been to everyone throughout the entire trial) and he shot back that no, he was just speaking purely logically.

Amber also shot herself in the foot because twice she admitted that she wrote the Op-ed about Johnny, unprompted too, and denying that it was written about Johnny was one of the defense's tactics.

Something she does that I find really incriminating is how when asked if she thinks the people who are giving testimonies that completely contradict hers are lying and committing perjury she never gives a straight answer and says yes. She'll say stuff like 'I'm just saying that that's not what happened,' which is funny to me because if you knew you were telling the truth and you knew the person/people on the stand were purposely lying through their teeth about you to falsely incriminate you and then a lawyer asked you if you were saying that they were lying and committing perjury, you would be like "YES. YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING."

indiegirl
05-27-2022, 01:08 PM
I still feel for the jurors. I would be pissed to be stuck in court for that many weeks without pay listening to millionaires squabble over money.

Update: Verdict will be revealed on Tuesday. Darn it ! I wanted it today but I get it.

DeathAndTaxes
05-29-2022, 01:46 AM
^^I'm not saying that they should have called the EX as a witness, rather I wish they could have called the cop involved or gone into how the cop had to out herself as a lesbian in order to combat Amber's homophobia accusations.

Yup, I argued something similar a few pages back. I understand the complicated nature of consent, generally the whole "mind your own business" defense could be posited if physical violence turned her on. That is not what they are arguing, they are arguing homophobia (meaning the entire event is fabricated) which is so ridiculous, there is hard evidence that physical violence happened in the airport.


Something she does that I find really incriminating is how when asked if she thinks the people who are giving testimonies that completely contradict hers are lying and committing perjury she never gives a straight answer and says yes. She'll say stuff like 'I'm just saying that that's not what happened,' which is funny to me because if you knew you were telling the truth and you knew the person/people on the stand were purposely lying through their teeth about you to falsely incriminate you and then a lawyer asked you if you were saying that they were lying and committing perjury, you would be like "YES. YES THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING."

To me the most telling was her conflating pledging with donating like indiegirl mentioned, this is indicative of a parallel reality, like she is gaslighting everyone. Her lawyers told her to double down on future legal costs, but instead of doing that she redefines words in such a brazen attempt to redefine reality.

DeathAndTaxes
05-30-2022, 02:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDmmZcKef2I

TheBrownFox
05-30-2022, 02:45 AM
I still feel for the jurors. I would be pissed to be stuck in court for that many weeks without pay listening to millionaires squabble over money.



The jurors aren't paid at all??? I had jury duty several years ago, and we got paid $20 (We were given a voucher that we had to go into some other building to redeem to get the cash). My mom had jury duty about 2 1/2 weeks ago, and she said the pay was $50 per day.

SnuffleUffleGrass
05-31-2022, 02:51 PM
I've been too busy with work to watch updates on the story but the whole thing about Amber's dog stepping on a bee was very WTF. I feel bad that the dogs had to witness all of that terrible shit!

indiegirl
05-31-2022, 07:51 PM
The jurors aren't paid at all??? I had jury duty several years ago, and we got paid $20 (We were given a voucher that we had to go into some other building to redeem to get the cash). My mom had jury duty about 2 1/2 weeks ago, and she said the pay was $50 per day.
They said I would be paid 12 bucks a day if I was put in the jury box. That's outrageous to punish people like that :(. Especially with the gas prices and inflation. They should be paying their full salary if they really want that person as a juror.

eagle2
05-31-2022, 08:07 PM
I got paid $10. Some employers will compensate you for the difference.

miss.a.p1600
06-01-2022, 10:17 AM
They said I would be paid 12 bucks a day if I was put in the jury box. That's outrageous to punish people like that :(. Especially with the gas prices and inflation. They should be paying their full salary if they really want that person as a juror.

Anyone remember that lady who told the judge she couldn't work jury duty because she lose out on a lot of money ..... she didn't want to turn her Sugar Daddy money down for chump change

TheBrownFox
06-01-2022, 10:34 AM
They said I would be paid 12 bucks a day if I was put in the jury box. That's outrageous to punish people like that :(. Especially with the gas prices and inflation. They should be paying their full salary if they really want that person as a juror.


Agreed. But your post had said "without pay," so I was like huh? I'd hope those jurors got AT LEAST the same amount my mom just got ($50, and it wasn't a big celeb case like this one, of course) or higher.

They just announced that the verdict will be announced at 3 PM!

WendiStarr
06-01-2022, 10:42 AM
This whole trial makes me sad. Real domestic violence victims have a hard enough time receiving justice. The whole celebrity status thing with both of them and all the memes have created a mockery of domestic violence.

indiegirl
06-01-2022, 10:42 AM
Agreed. But your post had said "without pay," so I was like huh? I'd hope those jurors got AT LEAST the same amount my mom just got ($50, and it wasn't a big celeb case like this one, of course) or higher.

They just announced that the verdict will be announced at 3 PM!

Do they cover gas fees too?
Lol I was logging into SW to post the 3pm announcement too! Ahhhhh I'm gonna have to watch this when I get home tonight!!!!
Okay it's depending on the time zone so it starts in an hour and 9 minutes

TheBrownFox
06-01-2022, 10:56 AM
Do they cover gas fees too?
Lol I was logging into SW to post the 3pm announcement too! Ahhhhh I'm gonna have to watch this when I get home tonight!!!!


I don't drive, so I wouldn't know. I just Googled it for you, and it says "While other states provide jurors with mileage reimbursement for travel, this is not available in Maryland."

Catching the bus in an hour to go to the laundromat. Hopefully no one on the bus starts trying to talk to me, because I'm gonna have earbuds in waiting on this verdict.

slowpoke
06-01-2022, 11:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDmmZcKef2I


Taking notes with her "pan"?

eagle2
06-01-2022, 12:41 PM
The jury ruled in favor of Depp, but also ruled an ex-attorney for Depp defamed Heard. Depp was awarded $10 million and Heard was awarded $2 million.

DeathAndTaxes
06-01-2022, 01:07 PM
Actually it was 15 million total and Heard got 2 million from the attorney.

Definitely did not expect this 6 weeks ago (but did see it likely when it ended), but then again there were so many gaffes by the defense and Amber's testimony that it really was a perfect storm.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-01-2022, 01:13 PM
He wasn't even in the courtroom when the verdict was announced. He was in a pub in the UK.

eagle2
06-01-2022, 01:25 PM
Actually it was 15 million total and Heard got 2 million from the attorney.

Definitely did not expect this 6 weeks ago (but did see it likely when it ended), but then again there were so many gaffes by the defense and Amber's testimony that it really was a perfect storm.

I just read that Depp was originally awarded $10 million in compensation and $5 million in punitive damages, but the state caps punitive damages at $350,000, so he ended up with $10,350,000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jury-deliberating-for-third-day-in-depp-heard-libel-trial/2022/06/01/95022d2a-e1b9-11ec-ae64-6b23e5155b62_story.html

miss.a.p1600
06-01-2022, 02:22 PM
^He was awarded…….but good luck to him on collecting.

This broad will probably claim bankruptcy, work under the table, etc. to keep from paying or be “pledging” n shit and not actually paying.

He will most likely have to sue her again to actually get the money.

miss.a.p1600
06-01-2022, 02:27 PM
I just read that Depp was originally awarded $10 million in compensation and $5 million in punitive damages, but the state caps punitive damages at $350,000, so he ended up with $10,350,000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jury-deliberating-for-third-day-in-depp-heard-libel-trial/2022/06/01/95022d2a-e1b9-11ec-ae64-6b23e5155b62_story.html

Why would they award amounts over the cap?