View Full Version : Johnny Depp’s $50 million defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard goes to trial
eagle2
06-01-2022, 02:31 PM
Why would they award amounts over the cap?
I don't know. Maybe the judge didn't inform the jury that there is a cap, before they determined the amount to award.
eagle2
06-01-2022, 03:03 PM
It probably won't make much difference. I don't think Amber will be able to pay even $10 million, unless she has insurance that would cover it.
techqueen
06-01-2022, 03:16 PM
^He was awarded…….but good luck to him on collecting.
This broad will probably claim bankruptcy, work under the table, etc. to keep from paying or be “pledging” n shit and not actually paying.
He will most likely have to sue her again to actually get the money.
HA! And ruin her career. I hope so. Johnny doesn't care about the money. He just wanted to tell his truth and restore his good name. I'm so so sooo happy for him!
Genoveve
06-01-2022, 03:25 PM
It probably won't make much difference. I don't think Amber will be able to pay even $10 million, unless she has insurance that would cover it.
People have theorized that insurance is covering her legal bills.
I am so happy about the news. Even though I knew the jury didn't have all of the years'-worth of info that the public has had, just going off of what happened in court I didn't see how they could possibly side with her and everyone who was Team Johnny was feeling really optimistic...but I started getting worried when people were saying that the time the jury was taking to deliver the verdict was not a good sign.
And I'm not surprised by her statement at all. I knew she was gonna cry about how 'this is what happens when a woman goes up against a powerful man' (which is funny when you remember all of the testimonies involving her calling him a washed-up has-been) and that this is not the first time that a court has sided with a woman's abuser. Gross.
TheBrownFox
06-01-2022, 04:58 PM
HA! And ruin her career. I hope so. Johnny doesn't care about the money. He just wanted to tell his truth and restore his good name. I'm so so sooo happy for him!
Me too! I was in the laundromat shouting "Yes!"
miss.a.p1600
06-01-2022, 04:59 PM
I’d like to see how this shakes out now it’s “over”
I’ll bet she’ll be selling “her side” to the tabloids to stay relevant
CFMNH44
06-02-2022, 07:06 AM
No one wins a pissing contest. She said she will appeal, more money for lawyers, more pee on Amber and Johnny...
techqueen
06-02-2022, 08:21 AM
No one wins a pissing contest. She said she will appeal, more money for lawyers, more pee on Amber and Johnny...
I think Johnny won fair and square pissing contest or not. That performance she gave on the stand was terrible. The constantly looking at the jury to sway them was just cringe. It should have been her best performance ever but she dropped the ball. She just doesn't have the money to keep this charade going but then I don't know how the process works. If she's smart she'll lay low for a bit and try to recover whatever's left of her career. They're saying no studio is going to touch her. She's obviously insane. What grown able-bodied adult shits on a bed and blames a dog? Ugh.
Genoveve
06-02-2022, 10:45 AM
No one wins a pissing contest. She said she will appeal, more money for lawyers, more pee on Amber and Johnny...
I definitely wouldn’t characterize the whole situation as a mere “pissing contest” and I definitely wouldn’t say that no one has won.
CFMNH44
06-03-2022, 07:58 PM
I definitely wouldn’t characterize the whole situation as a mere “pissing contest” and I definitely wouldn’t say that no one has won.
Do you think either of them will find work again? Maybe I'm too oldskool, but there are too many other talented actors... But who knows?!
DeathAndTaxes
06-03-2022, 08:51 PM
Do you think either of them will find work again? Maybe I'm too oldskool, but there are too many other talented actors... But who knows?!
Of course he will get work again, there was already a French movie he is participating in, it was mentioned a few pages back. As for him returning to Hollywood I think so, even had he lost it is a shoe in for a studio (but maybe not Disney).
She has nothing lined up, and this was before the trial, neither endorsements or acting, she will have a idle time on her hands for a very long while.
Genoveve
06-04-2022, 12:01 PM
Do you think either of them will find work again? Maybe I'm too oldskool, but there are too many other talented actors... But who knows?!
Johnny yes, Amber....I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bidding war for Johnny in the U.S. cinema; the movie industry's priority is making money and because executives are seeing the public's overwhelming support for him and know that people are going to rush to support his next U.S. project I'm sure he has dollar signs all over him. Whether he will go for it is another story; I could see him being so disillusioned with the U.S. film industry and media that he just makes music and does foreign films for the rest of his career.
Amber however is box office poison now. Not only is she going to have a hard time getting hired due to the general public's refusal to support anything that she's in, but now that the industry has seen how extremely unhinged she truly is I don't think anyone would want to risk hiring her or working with her because she's a huge liability. And talent-wise, I think her literally laughably bad acting on the stand was a huge blow to any reputation she may have had as a good, or even decent, actress.
GucciGirl69
06-04-2022, 02:08 PM
Isn't amber rich to? why does she have to work
Sam38g
06-05-2022, 07:59 AM
So many of you pretending like he wasn't very abusive to her.. Taking the side of a predator, because all these new media outlets mostly owned or written by men controlled the narrative.
Watch this vid. https://twitter.com/cocainecross/status/1532789799676878849?s=20&t=Vv_Nz49LNEK6ME5Bz_X8Dg
Genoveve
06-05-2022, 09:29 AM
^^^2 minutes worth of clips from a 6 week trial—that I watched the entirety of—are supposed to change my mind? People who watched the trial saw what was in those clips, as did the jury. Not sure why you (and others) are acting like it’s a smoking gun. Also the media has been pro-Amber this entire time so saying that I am siding with Johnny ‘because of the media’ has makes no sense.
miss.a.p1600
06-05-2022, 09:56 AM
So many of you pretending like he wasn't very abusive to her.. Taking the side of a predator, because all these new media outlets mostly owned or written by men controlled the narrative.
Watch this vid. https://twitter.com/cocainecross/status/1532789799676878849?s=20&t=Vv_Nz49LNEK6ME5Bz_X8Dg
It seems like they were both pretty mean to each other at various points.
They both got hit with judgement awards.
But this is PRIME example of why if you’re with someone toxic (ex personality disorders like narcissism, borderline, etc) to leave asap because you try to hold them accountable, set them straight, teach them a lesson, etc it’s all too easy to end up rolling in the dirt with them and looking as guilty as them.
Genoveve
06-05-2022, 11:07 AM
^^^She was awarded on one of her three claims of defamation, which had to do with one of his lawyers. That’s it.
DeathAndTaxes
06-05-2022, 11:40 AM
because all these new media outlets mostly owned or written by men controlled the narrative.
The media did not side with Depp, quite the opposite. This (among countless other examples) disproves the theory that the media is all powerful, they can not influence people with op eds. Though it requires exceptional resources (ie social media or a televised trial) to get your message out.
As for the video he did admit to headbutting her which is the only real example that outside of context can be misconstrued as assault, however the devil is in the details. He claimed he was trying to restrain her and unwantedly hit her with his head. It makes sense too because restraining someone is why he had to use his head to begin with, and you only use your face as a last resort.
If the trial was decided on out of context events he would have lost easily, he won because he could prove to the jury he was just defending himself, he did not want any interpersonal violence whatsoever, but was constantly goaded by her into constantly fighting.
The other examples of bruises were not credible, as in the bruises were not real, and she got caught fabricating photographic evidence, using the exact same photo to prove bruises on two separate events.
miss.a.p1600
06-05-2022, 12:44 PM
^^^She was awarded on one of her three claims of defamation, which had to do with one of his lawyers. That’s it.
Lawyers that he chose to hire.
He knew what he was doing when he hired the heavy artillery enforcement. (Ex. If I can't get away with being mean to her or If I can put her in check, I'm going to hire someone who can)
Probably why the next time around he hired a softer (aggressive enough but not too aggressive/wreckless) yet highly intelligent woman. He needed to win this case without getting stuck as his employees stoop down to low levels, he needed a woman to go toe-to-toe with her to prevent the element of gender tainting the outcome.
It's very easy (especially for wealthy people) to end up responsible for the mistakes and bad decisions of their employees/contractors.
Sam38g
06-05-2022, 01:10 PM
His looks are done. He did everything he could to destroy her career.. But he likes to hang out with child rapist director in France, who is banned from entering the U.S. Of course, it will take a decade or more for Amber to get any kind of work. If she would do OF, she would still bank. But the predators of Hollywood always stick together.
And his movies aren't nearly as bankable as other younger actors, I hope he fades away. But with all the drugs & alcohol he does, will make him very uninsurable for studios in the future.
Genoveve
06-05-2022, 01:57 PM
His looks are done.
Completely disagree.
He did everything he could to destroy her career..
Also completely disagree. He was completely willing to end eveything amicably and take care of her financially, and was even willing to try and work with her after she made the allegations against him and got a restraining order (you know, when she initiated contact with him after having the TRO placed on him to try and have him help save her reputation because the public was turning on her, which was recorded btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cucZS5rQVxI&ab_channel=ElineMargot ).
But he likes to hang out with child rapist director in France, who is banned from entering the U.S. Of course
He hangs out with Roman Polanski?
And his movies aren't nearly as bankable as other younger actors, I hope he fades away. But with all the drugs & alcohol he does, will make him very uninsurable for studios in the future.
Disagree. His work ethic and reputation among the industry was something that was testified about at length.
Lawyers that he chose to hire.
And? Do you know the actual statements by the lawyer? I, and I'm sure most of the people who watched the trial, completely agree with it/with him so again how this is supposed to be some sort of smoking gun I'm not sure. I honestly feel like the jury just did that to throw her a bone and to not look like they were just totally biased towards Johnny because they clearly didn't buy any of her story since they found her to be guilty of maliciously defaming him, and especially because when you look at the 3 statements I find it weird that they made that ruling for the 1 but not all 3.
DeathAndTaxes
06-05-2022, 03:02 PM
He knew what he was doing when he hired the heavy artillery enforcement. (Ex. If I can't get away with being mean to her or If I can put her in check, I'm going to hire someone who can)
Even if it was a strategy for aggressiveness it was still pretty milquetoast.
These were the three statements for the record
In April 2020, the Daily Mail (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail) published an article containing several allegations by Depp's lawyer, Adam Waldman. First, Waldman stated that "Amber Heard and her friends in the media used fake sexual violence allegations as both sword and shield, depending on their needs. They have selected some of her sexual violence hoax 'facts' as the sword, inflicting them on the public and Mr. Depp".[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard#cite_note-CNverdict-9)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard#cite_note-APverdict-12)Second, Waldman stated that regarding a 2016 incident in Depp and Heard's Hollywood penthouse: "Quite simply this was an ambush, a hoax. They set Mr. Depp up by calling the cops but the first attempt didn't do the trick. The officers came to the penthouses, thoroughly searched and interviewed, and left after seeing no damage to face or property. So, Amber and her friends spilled a little wine and roughed the place up, got their stories straight under the direction of a lawyer and publicist, and then placed a second call to 911."[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard#cite_note-CNverdict-9)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard#cite_note-APverdict-12)
Third, Waldman stated: "We have reached the beginning of the end of Ms. Heard's abuse hoax against Johnny Depp."[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard#cite_note-CNverdict-9)[12] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depp_v._Heard#cite_note-APverdict-12)
Like Genoveve said it seems to be just getting thrown a bone, this trial went in the face of every single precedent on defamation, in the US the bar is insanely high.
If she would do OF, she would still bank.
Well here is where I do disagree with the herd, they were all goading the end of her career so she would do OF, it seemed like for many men the goal was not justice for Depp but to leave her no choice into doing something she was not comfortable with out of sheer desperation, this "revenge attitude" was disgusting and while it is only a small subset of men that participated in it I was downvoted to hell when pointing out the key difference. Customers or not it still just reminded me of the abuse hurled at Mia Khalifa (who is also pretty sex work negative nowadays) this is still a form of degradation that I am pretty confident nobody here agrees with.
I still don't think she should do be in Aquaman 2, but that has more to do with her still being unrepentant. But she should still do whatever she is comfortable with in the end.
techqueen
06-05-2022, 04:43 PM
His looks are done.
In what world? He's still hot af.
He did everything he could to destroy her career..
She destroyed her own career by lying.
If she would do OF, she would still bank.
She's not that smart.
But the predators of Hollywood always stick together.
Yes. Except Johnny isn't a predator.
And his movies aren't nearly as bankable as other younger actors
Maybe wishful thinking on your part. He's loved all around the world, will work again and will make a fuckton of money especially if he agrees to a pirate reboot.
But with all the drugs & alcohol he does, will make him very uninsurable for studios in the future.
LOLOLOL
WHAT?
Do you know how many actors and actresses are always doped up? What the man does during his off time is his business. He was never accused of being unprofessional or difficult to work with.
Disagree. His work ethic and reputation among the industry was something that was testified about at length.
Exactly.
miss.a.p1600
06-05-2022, 09:30 PM
[/COLOR]Even if it was a strategy for aggressiveness it was still pretty milquetoast.
These were the three statements for the record
Like Genoveve said it seems to be just getting thrown a bone, this trial went in the face of every single precedent on defamation, in the US the bar is insanely high.
Well here is where I do disagree with the herd, they were all goading the end of her career so she would do OF, it seemed like for many men the goal was not justice for Depp but to leave her no choice into doing something she was not comfortable with out of sheer desperation, this "revenge attitude" was disgusting and while it is only a small subset of men that participated in it I was downvoted to hell when pointing out the key difference. Customers or not it still just reminded me of the abuse hurled at Mia Khalifa (who is also pretty sex work negative nowadays) this is still a form of degradation that I am pretty confident nobody here agrees with.
I still don't think she should do be in Aquaman 2, but that has more to do with her still being unrepentant. But she should still do whatever she is comfortable with in the end.[/COLOR]
Why would a jury need to through anyone a bone?
Don't you think experienced lawyers would know to be more careful about the language they use in the media given the circumstances? That attorney's wrecklessness/verbal diarrhea came with a cost
DeathAndTaxes
06-05-2022, 10:37 PM
Why would a jury need to through anyone a bone?
Don't you think experienced lawyers would know to be more careful about the language they use in the media given the circumstances? That attorney's wrecklessness/verbal diarrhea came with a cost
The statements were just not that inflammatory, they were not degrading, or insulting or even an outright lie, The details were what got him though and that is why it was the second one that was picked.
The trial was a mess, but ultimately the most important thing was IPV, who was abusing who, then after that it is the false accusations and fabrication of evidence, and lastly the defamation (there has to be damages for defamation for example). Ultimately it was the leaked tape of conversations that hurt her career I had been paying attention since the beginning, but right now losing the trial made her radioactive because so many people watched.
Genoveve
06-05-2022, 11:41 PM
^^^Agree.
Why would a jury need to through anyone a bone?
I said why I thought they would. ?
miss.a.p1600
06-06-2022, 03:42 PM
^^^Agree.
I said why I thought they would. ?
I was looking for other perspectives too. Thanks though
Genoveve
06-06-2022, 04:05 PM
^^^You asked someone who mentioned my perspective to agree with it for the sake of hearing an alternative perspective? Makes sense. Maybe someone else who also agrees that the jury 'threw a bone' but for different reasons will show up.
miss.a.p1600
06-07-2022, 06:29 AM
^^^You asked someone who mentioned my perspective to agree with it for the sake of hearing an alternative perspective? Makes sense. Maybe someone else who also agrees that the jury 'threw a bone' but for different reasons will show up.
I was talking to him not you. That’s why I copied his quote. Take care and have a blessed day.
Genoveve
06-07-2022, 10:29 AM
^^I understand completely. :)
rickdugan
06-07-2022, 11:52 AM
Of course he will get work again, there was already a French movie he is participating in, it was mentioned a few pages back. As for him returning to Hollywood I think so, even had he lost it is a shoe in for a studio (but maybe not Disney).
She has nothing lined up, and this was before the trial, neither endorsements or acting, she will have a idle time on her hands for a very long while.
This was huge for him. He probably won't see any money when this all shakes out, but I suspect that wasn't really the point. When all of the lies and games were exposed in open court, it was pretty obvious that he was innocent. It really sucks that he had to go through all of that, but sadly it was probably the only way he could resurrect his reputation and move forward with his career.
Heard OTOH is screwed. By all reports her scenes from the upcoming Aquaman 2 movie have been completely cut out and they added a story line to explain her absence. After everything she did, including her absurd performance at trial, she's going to be toxic.
whirlerz
06-07-2022, 10:26 PM
Yes, he's going to star as Louis XIV I believe.. I heard about it, & mentioned it, can't wait, he's a great actor.
Glad the trial's over too.
lynn2009
06-11-2022, 09:12 PM
Depp is being sued now for assaulting a staff hand on a movie set.
Genoveve
06-12-2022, 11:05 AM
^^^By who?
eagle2
06-12-2022, 11:21 AM
This is what I've found on it:
https://www.newsweek.com/johnny-depp-heading-back-court-amid-claims-he-assaulted-film-crew-member-amber-heard-trial-1713453
Vyanka
06-15-2022, 06:36 AM
Really? People believe this woman???
https://mobile.twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1536842512509415424
rickdugan
06-15-2022, 07:44 AM
Really? People believe this woman???
https://mobile.twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1536842512509415424
IMHO this interview was just a desperate attempt to salvage a shred of her reputation. The interviewer, though skeptical in spots, was far kinder than the defense attorney who pointed out the magic vanishing bruise for the world to see and questioned the many witnesses who testified that Heard just flat out lied.
As this interview makes clear, she still doesn't seem to understand that her "right to speak" does not extend to lying about what someone else did to her. SMH.
Idk, but I doubt that this helped her. She's toxic now and I doubt that she's ever going to see another big Hollywood payday. If she had a lick of sense, she'd stop digging herself in even further and simply pray that Depp decides not to enforce collection of the judgment.
DeathAndTaxes
06-19-2022, 10:24 PM
Really? People believe this woman???
https://mobile.twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1536842512509415424
It is pure, distilled gas-lighting, I mean I cannot take it personally because it is generalized, but it is insulting how she thinks we are all just idiots. Look, in a way she set up a plan and tried to con the world that requires "something" above being dumb, but to keep doubling down like we, the jury, etc are dumber than a bag of rocks, really says something.
eagle2
12-19-2022, 11:40 AM
Amber settled the case.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/amber-heard-settles-defamation-case-against-johnny-depp-i-never-chose-this
SnuffleUffleGrass
12-19-2022, 12:06 PM
Amber, go away. & Raise your kid to be better than you turned out to be....
DeathAndTaxes
12-30-2022, 08:23 PM
Amber, go away. & Raise your kid to be better than you turned out to be....
She is gone for good now, but I do agree hopefully she comes out a better person somehow.