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Marina Starr
05-15-2022, 02:16 PM
As if men don't expect sex whether they're paying or not, lol. Just because they expect doesn't mean you have to put out. I sure as hell hope not putting out for a double cheeseburger.

How much is a double cheeseburger? $1.99? Now think of your pussy as a Mercedes. If a man could have a Mercedes for $1.99 how would he treat it?

If men don't treat you well before sex, they sure as hell won't after.
I find it so sad that the standards for the behavior that women are willing to accept from men are so goddamn low!
Women need to know that they're always in control and they teach men how to treat them by giving men an impression of what they're willing to accept.
When we set the bar higher for the behavior we willing to accept into our lives we attract men who clear the bar.



PREACH!! It's the same argument as, "I pay half on the first date so he doesn't expect sex." No no no!!!! Someone paying for your meal (or anything else for that matter) does NOT = consent. Not to sex, not to a blowjob, not to a hug or kiss, and not even to see him ever again. Yea rejection sucks but it's a part of life. Today's men have no spine and would rather blame us & quietly perpetuate toxic masculinity & enable abuse.

The blame should be put on abusers & predatory behavior. It is NEVER someone's fault for being treated badly if they are not a bad person.

The bar is in Hell so they get praised for doing the absolute bare minimum & it's honestly sad. I wish I could have the ground I walk on worshipped just because I performed the absolute minimum of what it takes to be a decent friend, girlfriend/wife, or worker. Men have it so easy in life I'm honestly jealous! :P

Lurkingtitties I will get back to you with that list :) It's just a lot of reading I've come across over the years & I'm compiling it now. A good start is a book I think every woman should read; Why Does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft.

Cutie101
05-15-2022, 02:17 PM
I always find stupid this debate about paying on the first dates. The one that makes the invitation should always pay, no questions and no debate.
If you invite me out, I expect you to pay and if you expect sex for it, I take it that you're basically trying to hire a hooker at a discount price. Basically, you spit into my face, if you think I cannot afford this dinner by myself. It means that you didn't even take me out to simply enjoy simple things, like 2 human beings who are supposed to feel atracted to each other, you simply wanted sex.
I like to believe that, a man that invites me to dinner, he does it because he enjoys my company and me as a person and he wants to spend a pleasant evening, sharing a good meal and having a good time.
If I go pay 50/50 I do it ONLY if I don't enjoy his company and feel he's a dick, other than that, a gentleman would be insulted if I pulled my wallet out. No gentleman would stand to see the woman he likes, search in her bag for the wallet, literally looking at her and waiting for her to take her card out, to pay for HIS invitation. It's literally insulting for both me and him at this point.

Same if I make the invitation. I Invite you, so I pay. It's my pleasure to take you out on a date if I want to. I wouldn't expect the man to pay for a date I initiated.
Same if I invite a random friend. For example, when we invite friends at our house, we never ask them to bring anything. We support the costs with the food and drinks because it's our pleasure. It's a dick move to invite ANYONE (friend or date) and expect them to pay, unless you make a common plan to go out togheter. You never know if that peron can afford it, first of all.

lurkingtitties
05-15-2022, 02:34 PM
Lurkingtitties I will get back to you with that list :) It's just a lot of reading I've come across over the years & I'm compiling it now. A good start is a book I think every woman should read; Why Does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft.

That’s a good one! (Although it made me kinda sad to read because there was some stuff that reminded me of my parents relationship, sigh) I’ve mentioned elsewhere on here but I recently read How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before you Get Involved. Maybe we can start a thread of positive books and other content.

Cutie101
05-15-2022, 02:47 PM
That’s a good one! (Although it made me kinda sad to read because there was some stuff that reminded me of my parents relationship, sigh) I’ve mentioned elsewhere on here but I recently read How to Spot a Dangerous Man Before you Get Involved. Maybe we can start a thread of positive books and other content.

yesss plssss haha! i need some good reads

Marina Starr
05-15-2022, 05:53 PM
I'm not sure how any woman would be considered selfish and inconsiderate when men OFFERED to pay her bills?
Thank God women realize that they don't have to be just givers and caretakers as they were indoctrinated to.

What's selfish and considerate is men who make women question their worth with mistreatment and disregard for their emotional well being just because they're paying their bills.
Women should avoid these men at all costs.

miss.a.p1600
05-15-2022, 07:45 PM
Just curious if any ladies want to post some recent examples, humble brags, etc of men paying their bills.

Just got my dude to invest in my business. I’ll be getting another certification and since he knows what’s good for him he agreed to pay it }:D

Genoveve
05-17-2022, 09:57 AM
^^^How much is it?

miss.a.p1600
05-17-2022, 10:04 AM
^it’s enough to help me get the advantage and land these interviews for positions that pay more than his salary

Whether or not I get a new role having the extra certifications and licenses helps me indirectly make more money. So I use his money to make more money.

Genoveve
05-17-2022, 10:27 AM
No I mean how much is cost of the certification?

miss.a.p1600
05-17-2022, 06:54 PM
^I know exactly what you mean but I intended this thread as more for ladies to all chime in and contribute their experiences.

Unless you want to know how much so you can pay my next certification? ….. I certainly won’t turn you down }:D

Big, medium, or small —- I’ll take it all!

Genoveve
05-17-2022, 07:13 PM
^^^I thought you were intending to contribute the details of your experience and would be willing to share numbers, that's the only reason why I asked. I didn't know it would be a touchy subject, apologies!

miss.a.p1600
05-17-2022, 07:43 PM
No it’s not a touchy subject.

Numbers are subjective and complex. What’s big money to you could be small money to me and vice versa. To me it’s more important to see generosity based on income percentage.

For example if a guy is your husband, has $70k takes home 50k and spends 1% of his earnings on you then that seems miserly in my opinion

For me personally as long as the man helps with more than 50% of combined monthly expenses each month, that’s acceptable. The more the better.

miss.a.p1600
05-17-2022, 07:44 PM
Here is a guy who explains men providing and brings a perspective of normalcy to it.


https://youtu.be/bQQxasYB55g

miss.a.p1600
05-18-2022, 09:44 AM
This lady has some really good teachings too.


https://youtu.be/SZ_rnnwq7Rg

Violethollywood
05-22-2022, 03:22 PM
my husband pays for my medspa visits most of the time ... I don't go all the time , but like I just had botox and he paid for 300 of it and i put the rest ($60) on my credit card lol. That to me is a win.

miss.a.p1600
05-22-2022, 05:51 PM
^Nice.

pinkvelvetxo
05-22-2022, 06:38 PM
It’s nice to have side income to put in an account for yourself. Emergency money. But he should pay all the home bills I think. There’s a lot of women out here who are working and providing 50/50 with men and the men usually take their money so they can get a better car or nicer home. And your stuck cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids on top of it. I really think 50/50 is a scam on women, like it should be his home and you put your own money away. Even if you just woke part time or on YouTube/Etsy something like that and your job is in the home so he doesn’t have to except maybe yard work or something. I think the old way of thinking does work, because if you’re working and he’s working….then how can you spend real time together anyway?

miss.a.p1600
05-22-2022, 06:56 PM
^i also find if both people are working then it’s easy to neglect the house and the kids unless both incomes can go towards hiring help.

It’s very hard to see women who are like 8 months pregnant and still working because their man can’t or won’t help provide for them and the kid and the women is working a job with no maternity benefits.

I think if a lady plans to have kids n be pregnant than being with a man who doesn’t need the woman’s income is crucial especially in scenarios like this.

carmen_b
05-22-2022, 07:28 PM
NO QUOTING PLEASE . I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I SAY TOO MUCH PERSONAL INFO AND WILL DELETE SOME.

I have it pretty good. My partner pays a lot. :)
He makes significantly more which is why I feel comfy to let him.
Our situation is a little unique but I think I get somewhat spoiled.
Or ..... I guess I should say I am getting spoiled.
In return I try to spoil him back and it works well for us.

Some things I do still pay for are : my own phone , car, insurance , rental insurance ( for coverage of items I carry for my job mostly ) , health insurance , a little towards past debts ( almost done ) , grocery items here and there, and my own self care routine.
He does all the big stuff ( housing , util. on it , most groceries, all our dates , most travel ).
I noticed today he went to Costco which is always hard the wallet AND got grocery delivery to have us fully stocked.
I am really grateful for him and his hustle.

If a shorter than your usual type computer nerd guy asks you out ....... say YES !
I've honestly always liked the quiet and nerdy types. I love that my partner took it ( his own unique personality and skill set ) and just kicked the fucked out of his work life.
I would say we are in a phase of really high happiness and flow lately . Nothing huge has come up lately.
We just celebrated two years.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 11:30 PM
Bishhhhhh how did I not know this thread existed? My anthem. I don't date, screw, or entertain M who don't spend, pay for everything, period. I love it here.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 11:42 PM
Word to the wise, the main drawback to this is, the rug can get pulled from under your feet if your man wants you out of his life with little to no warning.

Example- years ago I was offered what sounded like a sweet deal- a car and apartment from an older guy. When I asked whose name would be on the apartment lease and car title, he said it would be his name. I noped out of that partially because I knew he could leave me without a home or wheels if he felt like it.

Ladies know your rights before you get into any sort of LTR with a man.

The only way I've avoided this was to keep a separate living space, and roster all of my SD, plus hustle money from every guy interested in me. I can never be put out, I never run out of money, and gifts, cars, apartments and homes I take in cash and I pay it all myself. I run a cash only one girl only entity and have never gotten taken for a fool.

kortneykay
05-22-2022, 11:55 PM
1000000%. The majority of the time to me when I see women discussing how to land ‘provider husbands’ they talk about them like they’re unicorns, like they’re these super rare beings that require a lot of trickery to capture. In actuality there’s plenty of dudes out there who were raised in ‘traditional’ families where the father supported everyone and so that’s the dynamic they’re used to and prefer and thus intend to recreate. Depending on their background too there’s lots of men who would take shame in not being able to fully provide for their families and having to have their wives work. As fantastical as the concept seems to seem to a lot of people(men and women), it’s really not that unusual.

This. My parents and all the Men in my family are old school providers and I only mess with guys with this mindset. My grandmother has had an allowance from my grandpa since they met at 17. They're still together 64 years later, still got her bag, homes, and taught her boys the same. I feel when a Woman looks ultra feminine she attracts this more. Me being an aries I have a hustling war like mindset but I keep that side of me away from Men and physically look ultra femme and in need offline. Damsel is my nickname, lol. Never had issues not being cared by Men. Lots of traditional guys out there. Even my estranged husband paid for everything. Once he lost his mind I left.

kimbe
05-23-2022, 12:01 AM
^^ @carmen_b, I fully understand and my guy also pays a lot more than me. And frankly, isn’t that’s the main reason to have a guy? ;)

kortneykay
05-23-2022, 12:04 AM
Seriously.

This. Deserves. A. Standing. Fucking. Ovation.

Can you say it louder for those in the back please?

I’ve literally seen men say they’re only interested in an open relationship and turn around and marry the next girl simply because she demanded that she wanted to be a wife and made it a non-negotiable. These days it’s more common for women to play the cool girl and pretend they just want to chill.

Not enough women are asking for what they want. And there are those that do but their behavior communicates something different.

Your post is brilliant. It makes me happy to know we’re not all operating from a place of fear and lack.

What do yall think of Jetsetbabe.com? I knew Anna before she became popular so I can’t take her too seriously but I feel she gives great advice on the SB/SD lifestyle.

Preach. My recent off/on again (I always Men leave, first) was asked what he gave his ex. She didn't get a lot in spite of him being a trust fund kid. He got with me an upgraded. Paid rent, bills, cash, and upkeep. He's still chasing, crying about feeling "used" for cash lol but still wants to get back together. These guys will only treat you the way you allow it. I also had my own, kept all my SDs and clients and he still stepped up to the plate because it was give me what I want fo date me, or gtfo.

kortneykay
05-23-2022, 12:32 AM
Good luck on holding down a relationship with that mentality. If he's going to pay all the bills, he's sure going to demand full control of the relationship and expenses.

Being take of as a housewife comes with a trade. That's how things work. No man will tolerate a selfish, inconsiderate woman for too long.

The whole "wanting a traditional man but everything on my terms" will only work on a guy whose naïve and not well-experienced enough to know any better until he starts questioning the power dynamic of the relationship and getting influences from other men, either be relatives, friends, colleagues or Manosphere influencers. We're not dealing with Boomer male mentality anymore if you want a relationship unless you want to hookup with way older men.

Y'all need to stop mixing in the mid-20th Century "traditional" male role with the 2020 lifestyle. It's too much compromising. In other words, "having both ways."

You either aren't interested or can't get it like we do, so just,say that.

I'm selfish and Men will never stop paying. At the same time Women are used up, trampled over, murdered, raped, and manipulated into going 50/50 when we literally do more work inside, and outside of our bodies than a male can ever do. I've held plenty of relationships and even a marriage with this mentality so don't worry about us. My family is traditional and the Men including my father, uncles, and grandfather are not controlling at all.

Trust me, no Woman is running things with an iron fist. We bleed and give birth, most of the Child rearing, cleaning, cooking and deal with the most worldwide. They owe us and if they want to be in our lives, stretch our bodies out and literally stress Women out the least they can do is pay the bills since no Man on earth is bleeding, cramping, or pushing out Kids, going through menopause and everything else Women have NO choice but to go through FOR Men. And there are plenty of countries and families where they raise their sons to provide who aren't boomers. My ex is in his 20s, my little brother too. You need to stay in your lane. If you can't get a guy to pay your bills and are jealous of those of us who can decide to work plus get bills paid just say that. Good luck to you, too. You sound like you need it.

kortneykay
05-23-2022, 12:36 AM
Ask any guy if he takes a stripper, cam girl, escort, pornstar, sex-related workers, and promiscuous women serious. Most of them don't and don't like that fact. They don't see any value in them other than FWB-type of relationship.

I always strongly advise for women of "bad background" to never tell their future boyfriend/husband about their past. It usually ends in a trainwreck if you do tell.

Plus, making money off of men tend to make us assertive, you think a "good woman" behaves like us?

They do and marry us too. It's giving jealousy and masculine male. If you don't like the thread it clearly states this isn't for you. We ALL make money off of Men. Stripperweb is in my address bar. Girlboy, bye.

miss.a.p1600
05-23-2022, 06:59 AM
This. My parents and all the Men in my family are old school providers and I only mess with guys with this mindset. My grandmother has had an allowance from my grandpa since they met at 17. They're still together 64 years later, still got her bag, homes, and taught her boys the same. I feel when a Woman looks ultra feminine she attracts this more. Me being an aries I have a hustling war like mindset but I keep that side of me away from Men and physically look ultra femme and in need offline. Damsel is my nickname, lol. Never had issues not being cared by Men. Lots of traditional guys out there. Even my estranged husband paid for everything. Once he lost his mind I left.

I agree here.

I have heard 50/50 misogynists and extremist feminists say stuff like 'well this isn't the 50's anymore' or 'you don't have to do what your parents/grandparents did'

The fuck I don't......those ladies are living stress free, lasting marriages, with either no jobs (outside the home) or part-time jobs.

I'm not only taking notes from the OG's of this game.....I'm replicating their game

#bringingbackthe50's

Marina Starr
05-23-2022, 07:03 AM
Making money off of men is our cardio!


They do and marry us too. It's giving jealousy and masculine male. If you don't like the thread it clearly states this isn't for you. We ALL make money off of Men. Stripperweb is in my address bar. Girlboy, bye.

miss.a.p1600
05-23-2022, 07:05 AM
You either aren't interested or can't get it like we do, so just,say that.

I'm selfish and Men will never stop paying. At the same time Women are used up, trampled over, murdered, raped, and manipulated into going 50/50 when we literally do more work inside, and outside of our bodies than a male can ever do. I've held plenty of relationships and even a marriage with this mentality so don't worry about us. My family is traditional and the Men including my father, uncles, and grandfather are not controlling at all.

Trust me, no Woman is running things with an iron fist. We bleed and give birth, most of the Child rearing, cleaning, cooking and deal with the most worldwide. They owe us and if they want to be in our lives, stretch our bodies out and literally stress Women out the least they can do is pay the bills since no Man on earth is bleeding, cramping, or pushing out Kids, going through menopause and everything else Women have NO choice but to go through FOR Men. And there are plenty of countries and families where they raise their sons to provide who aren't boomers. My ex is in his 20s, my little brother too. You need to stay in your lane. If you can't get a guy to pay your bills and are jealous of those of us who can decide to work plus get bills paid just say that. Good luck to you, too. You sound like you need it.

YES.

Most men have A LOT of baggage (even the ones with no kids/ex wife)

Most of them exude unconscious male privilege daily/can't cook/clean up after themselves/have really annoying quirks (ex. burping/farting/being gross)/gain too much weight/mommy issues/fatherless issues, etc. to the point they will drive you batshit crazy (on top of the crap we have to go through as women) if you are not compensated to overlook this shit you will be 32 looking like a hard 48, chain-smoking cigarettes reminiscing about the providers you let go.

carmen_b
05-23-2022, 09:13 AM
It certainly makes it easy to enjoy life therefore that enjoyment transfers to him as well.
Lots of time and energy for him you know ?
Win / win.

I work about 30 hours a week currently. I hate not working. I’m not a house wife type. I love getting a little break though ( ability to work slightly lighter hours while still saving ). I cook a couple meals a week and also run the lawn care plan in our home haha. So he gets “ light “ house wife stuff . It’s fair since I work less hours currently. We have a system going that is working well. Anything I do ( like communicate with lawn or pool guys ) or things like going to Home Depot for easy things I try to do. My partners work time is very valuable so I try to take on tasks to assist.


^^ @carmen_b, I fully understand and my guy also pays a lot more than me. And frankly, isn’t that’s the main reason to have a guy? ;)

miss.a.p1600
05-23-2022, 09:26 AM
It certainly makes it easy to enjoy life therefore that enjoyment transfers to him as well.
Lots of time and energy for him you know ?
Win / win.

I work about 30 hours a week currently. I hate not working. I’m not a house wife type. I love getting a little break though ( ability to work slightly lighter hours while still saving ). I cook a couple meals a week and also run the lawn care plan in our home haha. So he gets “ light “ house wife stuff . It’s fair since I work less hours currently. We have a system going that is working well. Anything I do ( like communicate with lawn or pool guys ) or things like going to Home Depot for easy things I try to do. My partners work time is very valuable so I try to take on tasks to assist.

I wish more men would understand this. Like the better they provide, the less stress and things we have to worry about and the more satisfied THEY will be as a result.

A lot of these 50/50 men want to see women out here in the trenches alongside them. Okay but then where is the time and energy for the endless on-demand sex you're expecting?!? Where are the resources for the kids that come as a result of said endless sex?

Violethollywood
05-23-2022, 10:52 AM
You either aren't interested or can't get it like we do, so just,say that.

I'm selfish and Men will never stop paying. At the same time Women are used up, trampled over, murdered, raped, and manipulated into going 50/50 when we literally do more work inside, and outside of our bodies than a male can ever do. I've held plenty of relationships and even a marriage with this mentality so don't worry about us. My family is traditional and the Men including my father, uncles, and grandfather are not controlling at all.

Trust me, no Woman is running things with an iron fist. We bleed and give birth, most of the Child rearing, cleaning, cooking and deal with the most worldwide. They owe us and if they want to be in our lives, stretch our bodies out and literally stress Women out the least they can do is pay the bills since no Man on earth is bleeding, cramping, or pushing out Kids, going through menopause and everything else Women have NO choice but to go through FOR Men. And there are plenty of countries and families where they raise their sons to provide who aren't boomers. My ex is in his 20s, my little brother too. You need to stay in your lane. If you can't get a guy to pay your bills and are jealous of those of us who can decide to work plus get bills paid just say that. Good luck to you, too. You sound like you need it.


Well said . Women get fucked over wayyyy too much to just lie down and accept it . Speaking from experience. When I was married to my ex years ago, I sit and think about how I should have asked him to do more or made him do more. I raised our son by myself while married to him. God forbid I ask him to change a diaper. Not only did he not pay for shit for me, but he took my money and I allowed it bc i was a dumb bitch! I was! I was in my early 20s at the time and just stupid! And he cheated on me left and right and did not help me with the household chores . He only cleaned once in a blue moon when he was really pissed off . For too long, women have gotten the short end of the stick.

Now that im older and wiser, I will never not get what I want out of a man. my husband now, doesn't bitch when I ask for money. He might joke with me and act like he's not gonna give it to me, but he always does in the end lol.

I clean the house and take care of the pets and kids plus work plus have to be a wife and all that stuff. So you're god damn right Im gonna monetize all that lol. I get pissed when I think about all the shit i did for free for my exes. Im so angry about it lol

Marina Starr
05-23-2022, 11:07 AM
Growth is when you can own your shit no matter how bad. Ownership made you feel empowered so give yourself a lot of credits.
You did what you knew how. If you knew better, you'd done better.

Women are indoctrinated to give their all no matter how they're treated. I hope a lot of women would realize that when they give without receiving
they're demonstrating to men that they can be taken advantage of.


Well said . Women get fucked over wayyyy too much to just lie down and accept it . Speaking from experience. When I was married to my ex years ago, I sit and think about how I should have asked him to do more or made him do more. I raised our son by myself while married to him. God forbid I ask him to change a diaper. Not only did he not pay for shit for me, but he took my money and I allowed it bc i was a dumb bitch! I was! I was in my early 20s at the time and just stupid! And he cheated on me left and right and did not help me with the household chores . He only cleaned once in a blue moon when he was really pissed off . For too long, women have gotten the short end of the stick.

Now that im older and wiser, I will never not get what I want out of a man. my husband now, doesn't bitch when I ask for money. He might joke with me and act like he's not gonna give it to me, but he always does in the end lol.

I clean the house and take care of the pets and kids plus work plus have to be a wife and all that stuff. So you're god damn right Im gonna monetize all that lol. I get pissed when I think about all the shit i did for free for my exes. Im so angry about it lol

carmen_b
05-23-2022, 06:22 PM
Honestly after getting accustomed to this kind of treatment if my partner and I separated for some reason and I was on a date I wouldn't even fake reach for my purse. Lol.
I'd just assume he is getting it hahaha.
I kind of cringe at myself offering ( and sometimes the guy would accept ) to pay for part trying to show independence in the past.
Like ..... duh ..... of course I'm independent .
It is obvious I have it together but I will assume you've got it because YOU SHOULD BE.

MAY PULL THAT AS WELL HAHA SO NO QUOTES PLEASE. :)

miss.a.p1600
05-24-2022, 11:40 AM
^I always carry cash on dates …. Just in case

But one one occasion I ended up (unbeknownst to me) with a slick narcissist. This fool pretended not to have his wallet to see what I was going to do. Girl I death glared that bitch so hard he suddenly remembered he had it. Don’t play with me like that mf!

But yes I do the same. I expect them to be prepared for the dates they ask me on.

I also think men especially should not expect women to pay half of the lifestyle they cannot afford on their own. Maybe some women don’t mind it. But they shouldn’t expect women to come their rescue financially

carmen_b
05-24-2022, 05:51 PM
^ I don’t think I “ minded “ 50/50 with my former partner because I didn’t really have a full *sense* of the difference.

:/

I really think a man making even 20-40 k more than the female partner can swing that masculine strength you know ?
It can make things easier ( in my case even reducing hours is something I appreciate and feel gratitude for ).
I don’t know. I was always like “ oh 50/50 is fine “ but I'm not sure if I feel that way anymore.

miss.a.p1600
05-24-2022, 08:01 PM
50/50 wouldn’t be bad if these men didn’t come with ingrained male privilege entitlement, acting like they are the prize, and constantly try to swing the pendulum heavily in their favor.

chanzep
05-24-2022, 08:18 PM
I think 50/ 50 with men is a scam. I only do 50/50 with roommates. I can save on living costs without sharing my bed and personal business , without providing maid services.
A man paying half of my household costs but taking up half of my space and energy is not doing me any favours.A roommate is a better deal for 50/50. At least they have boundaries and can't ask you anything.

miss.a.p1600
05-24-2022, 08:18 PM
My partner asked how much I’d be making if I moved to a new job and I told him he was acting like a pimp

chanzep
05-24-2022, 08:54 PM
None of his business. Just tell him less while they train you for a while so he has to "support ". You can hint this is a big step up that your dedicated to doing better. Hint in a way that your not a failure like him who didn't pass his test to step up. Lol he will feel bad as he should. Then bounce with the money you save.

ava$
05-24-2022, 09:09 PM
This having men pay all my bills has not worked out well for me, I find them to use it as control over me and not treat me as well so I no longer look for that or expect it but I do bank at the club mostly so I don’t mind, but I also have 2 kids so I feel the need to make my own $$ for them and to build for them.

miss.a.p1600
05-24-2022, 10:54 PM
None of his business. Just tell him less while they train you for a while so he has to "support ". You can hint this is a big step up that your dedicated to doing better. Hint in a way that your not a failure like him who didn't pass his test to step up. Lol he will feel bad as he should. Then bounce with the money you save.

EXACTLY! I didn’t even tell his ass this time but I’ll say that once/if I get accepted. This situation I described above was the first round of interviews a couple weeks ago.

miss.a.p1600
05-24-2022, 11:05 PM
This having men pay all my bills has not worked out well for me, I find them to use it as control over me and not treat me as well so I no longer look for that or expect it but I do bank at the club mostly so I don’t mind, but I also have 2 kids so I feel the need to make my own $$ for them and to build for them.

Sadly I think those are the men who are either narcissistic, can’t afford to provide, or don’t want to provide in the first place but do it out of what seems to them as “forced” obligation. None of this is healthy.

The good providers are men who see it as their duty, feel like shit if they cannot provide, have a healthy level of respect for women, have the ability to provide (enough disposable income to cover 2 or more people), and generous with their resources for their family, etc.

I think it’s okay for you to have your perspective. It’s good that you receive that generosity from men when you’re at work.

kortneykay
05-25-2022, 07:12 PM
I agree here.

I have heard 50/50 misogynists and extremist feminists say stuff like 'well this isn't the 50's anymore' or 'you don't have to do what your parents/grandparents did'

The fuck I don't......those ladies are living stress free, lasting marriages, with either no jobs (outside the home) or part-time jobs.

I'm not only taking notes from the OG's of this game.....I'm replicating their game

#bringingbackthe50's

My response is always "And in 20xx a Woman's body hasn't changed at all and we still do more of the work."


Except we're actually more stressed and giving way more and receiving less as a species.

kortneykay
05-25-2022, 07:27 PM
50/50 is a scam and is 80/20 if the Woman is doing all of the work. When Men take 50% of cramps, rapes, sexual abuse, tampon, pad, Midol, taxes for said items, feminine waah, abortions, miscarriages, domestic violence, femicide, cat calling, give more orgasms than received, cook, clean, and push children out of their pee holes I'll buy into 50/50. Since that will never happen; kiss my spoiled ass. Until the egg starts chasing sperm miss me with the bullshit.

BambiCutie
05-25-2022, 07:50 PM
There are definitely narcissistic men out there who will also use their finances to suppress and control you into staying in a violent relationship. Especially if it prevents you from being able to live independently from them. They can and often do pull the rug out from underneath you, then offer a cold hand to pull you up with, before doing it all over again.

It is as well, not uncommon for them to interfere with potential work/job offers to prevent you from achieving any financial power to plan an escape. I went through this for years and it was an absolute nightmare! Once I did slightly get on my feet financially, I met another narcissist who wanted me to buy them random goods, while criticizing me for choosing to work in the industry. Got rid of them and have been mainly keeping to myself, which has been a blessing and huge relief! :meditate:

miss.a.p1600
05-25-2022, 08:37 PM
50/50 is a scam and is 80/20 if the Woman is doing all of the work. When Men take 50% of cramps, rapes, sexual abuse, tampon, pad, Midol, taxes for said items, feminine waah, abortions, miscarriages, domestic violence, femicide, cat calling, give more orgasms than received, cook, clean, and push children out of their pee holes I'll buy into 50/50. Since that will never happen; kiss my spoiled ass. Until the egg starts chasing sperm miss me with the bullshit.

I feel like a lot of them act feminine so they can try to enjoy male privilege AND reap the benefits women receive.

like bruh are you the man or the woman of this relationship?

Violethollywood
05-25-2022, 08:39 PM
50/50 is a scam and is 80/20 if the Woman is doing all of the work. When Men take 50% of cramps, rapes, sexual abuse, tampon, pad, Midol, taxes for said items, feminine waah, abortions, miscarriages, domestic violence, femicide, cat calling, give more orgasms than received, cook, clean, and push children out of their pee holes I'll buy into 50/50. Since that will never happen; kiss my spoiled ass. Until the egg starts chasing sperm miss me with the bullshit.



this right here ^

neverendingkneebruises
05-26-2022, 12:08 AM
Amen kortneykay^^

I will happily go 50/50 on a date but, that particular man who insisted it will simply never be having another one with me. :)

He can have my half of the bill & then a brisk parting & BLOCK button swung at him.

Sam38g
05-26-2022, 08:54 AM
I would NEVER pay half on a date. If I am dating the guy, I will regularly cook a meal. In all these years, not one fucker has ever offered to pay for the groceries. So when that happens, then I'll pay for half on a dinner date. I love living alone, everything here is mine. Prefer peace over someone's mess or ruining the things I own because they are careless.

Peace everyday, every moment. Men are for paying for jewelry, dates & vacations. Rather spend my time, cleaning my jewelry than some man's dirty underwear.