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crazybob
11-05-2003, 05:48 PM
You are so right, every time I go to a gas station, get gas and use the bathroom I am left with the impression that I can get laid there because they provide condom's!!!!! The guy's that " need " them know what they're there for.

BoneDaddy
11-05-2003, 05:48 PM
In response to Lena's query:

Okay, here's a question for the experts. If I'm in a hot tub, in a bikini, and the customer is wearing a swim suit, and I'm like at least six inches away from him, and he came, could I catch anything?
Michele responds emphatically and authoritatively: "The chlorine would kill the germs." And M adds the comment: ""Water itself will 'kill' most transmitable diseases."

OK, I have to add my 2 cents here -- actually, 4 cents. (Even though my mother is not a surgical nurse -- such as Michele's mom -- I have surprisingly been duly qualified as an expert to testify in federal court on some health related issues -- including this specific issue. Now if I only had that mom who was surgical nurse, I could be 100% sure of my testimony!)

First, there is a very important distinction between a whirlpool type bath (commonly referred to as the brand name “Jacuzzi”) and a hot tub. The latter is generally very clean – primarily because of the piping system that permits the heated water and chlorine to remove nasty stuff from the water. On the other hand, the whirlpool baths (i.e., Jacuzzi and those found in hotel rooms) are very dangerous because DESPITE THE AMOUNT OF CHLORINE used, the piping system does not allow a complete cleaning. Physical examinations of most jacuzzi type tubs have revealed incredible amounts of putrid matter residue – including blood, bacteria, feces, semen, urine, etc., etc. These tubs are not at all sanitary. Anyone taking a bath in a hotel whirlpool tub is highly likely to contact something nasty.

So...in direct answer to Lena's question, if you are in a hotel room and enjoying a jacuzzi, you might not only catch something from the guy currently in the tub but also catch something from the last two or three or four guys who were in the tub! (...and these are guys you have never even met!)

But then again...what do I know....since my mom wasn't a surgical nurse!

God, Ignorance is bliss!

money
11-05-2003, 11:58 PM
Face it, most diseased you get from public pools, hot tubs and what not are bacteria shit that you normally do not come across. That is 100 percent different than having some guys jizz coming thru his pants. That is apples and oranges bone daddy.

aggieed
11-06-2003, 02:35 AM
...I would not like my club to start providing condoms.

I don't know that I've ever been to a club that OPENLY sold condoms. That's interesting.

Most of what I've seen is the piss monkeys (aka bathroom attendants) who sell them to customers in the restroom. At $5 a pop, I'd think they would make a pretty good profit.

teaseme1976
11-06-2003, 02:42 AM
Since strippers seem to be so germ phobic, maybe we should stop giving them money...I mean we don't want them to be "grossed out"....


It's time to consider money laundering Apr. 12, 2003


Provided by: Sun Media

Should I fly home or is it safer to come by car?" This Florida patient telephoned me not because she was worried about the plane crashing. Rather, she was concerned about the risk of developing SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). Another patient, arriving at my office following a subway ride, immediately asked if she could wash her hands. Today, with more and more people wearing face masks, let's not forget one of the most important ways to decrease the risk of infection. For instance, have you ever wondered about being contaminated from "filthy lucre"?

Dr. Peter Ender and colleagues at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base Medical Center in Dayton, Ohio, reported a unique experiment to the American Society of Microbiology. They swapped new dollar bills for old ones with students at a high school sporting event and grocery store checkout lanes. They then examined the dollar bills under a microscope to see if they were grungy or clean.

They found that mother's warning was right on, "Don't put it in your mouth, you don't know where it's been." The greenbacks not only looked grungy but were also crawling with bacteria.

FECAL GERMS

Of the dollar bills collected, 7% were infected with serious bacteria such as staphylococcus and fecal germs that can cause food poisoning. Eighty-six per cent harboured more mundane bugs and only 7% were free of bacterial contamination.

There was no direct evidence that people had contracted disease from handling the grungy money. But it's reasonable to assume that those working in banks and fast-food outlets (AND STRIPPERS?) are at greater risk than others less exposed to large amounts of greenbacks. And if you're elderly and have a weaker immune system the greater the risk that these germs can cause illness.

So far, the best evidence suggests that SARS is spread by respiratory droplets and close personal contact. However, researchers continue to remind us of the importance of clean hands to fight infection.

Dr. Ender suggested the time has come to consider money laundering. No, not the type used by the Mafia, but a method used in Japan a society preoccupied with cleanliness. In Japan consumers can opt to obtain money from clean ATMs. These machines dispense yen that have been heated to 200C (392F) which is hot enough to kill bacteria, but not to burn the money.

Thirty years ago, The American Medical Association reported that 13% of coins and 42% of bills were contaminated by staphylococcus and fecal germs. It's interesting that no one seemed to listen, particularly when billions of dollars change hands every day.

Another U.S. study showed that 90% of the money in large cities such as New York, San Francisco and Miami contained small traces of cocaine!

Thousands of people are now wearing face masks. No doubt it's a wise idea for those working in risky locations. However, I'd be willing to bet there are thousands of others who fail to wash their hands. After all, past experiments show that even doctors leave much to be desired when supposedly following hygienic practices.

Dr. Brobson Lutz, director of the New Orleans health department, carried out a unique investigation. He stationed student spies in washrooms during a meeting of infectious disease specialists. One would assume that these doctors would be super clean. But only 69% washed their hands after using the facilities!

Unfortunately, too many people are lax in hygiene. We know that conscientious hand washing is the single most important way to prevent the spread of germs. But consider the number of times you've shaken hands with a friend who has just sneezed or blown his nose. If so, you've shaken very contaminated hands. The wrong thing to do at any time, particularly now.

Hopefully, the SARS problem will soon pass. But in the meantime let's all practice "hand health". And remember that if a million bacteria can fit on the point of a needle, it boggles the mind on how many can adhere to paper money. And why not follow another Japanese custom, forget.

anais
11-06-2003, 03:04 AM
Crazy Bob, is your condom machine in the men's bathrom? I wonder if our bathroom attendant sells condoms. (BTW customers seem to really despise bathroom attentdants.)

michele
11-06-2003, 03:22 AM
Bone daddy,what can you catch from this?I have never heard of any documented cases of anyone catching anything from a hot tub,jacuzzi,or whatever you want to call it,how might you catch something when alot of known virusus dont even survive upon air contact,they have done studies on how long hepatits and hiv can live,these are virusus that are transmited through,bllod to blood contact,not via air,I have never heard of aids or hepatitus being transmited this way,infact there would have been lots of law suits for the hotel industry and health clubs.I have heard about people who own hot tubs or jacuzzis getting respatory illnesses from the pvc piping because of bacteria and such but that is it.

canucked
11-06-2003, 03:39 AM
I'm a foreigner living in guadalajara, Mexico and I can tell you that in most strip clubs it is normal if the guy comes while he's getting a really hot dance. The cool thing about Mexico is that you're allowed to squeeze their tits and suck their nipples. I've had several strippers let me rub and kiss their vagina while kissing me a private dance. The cost is about $15 U.S. What a bargain! This is standard practise in Mexico. I think it really sucks how in the States or Canada you can't even touch the girls. Where's the fun in that? Viva Mexico!

P.S. And the chicks here are so fucking hot, I get a hard on just thinkin' about it

winter2003
11-06-2003, 03:50 AM
any and all medical ?'s should go directly to michele, our resident 'expert'!!! [spam] perhaps we all need to visit CDC's website and other such places, then draw our own conclusions as to what icky stuff REALLY is out there!
--this has been an interesting read to say the least!
:P

michele
11-06-2003, 04:26 AM
Canucked,talk about getting diseases,sure I would want to get dances from some girl and kiss and her and also kiss and rub her vagina like you described, after she just did that to the last 20 guys she danced for,oh yeah give me some of that.

kermit210
11-06-2003, 04:59 AM
P.S. And the chicks here are so fucking hot, I get a hard on just thinkin' about it

I can't seem to find the words to express just how happy I am for you....... ::)

Rayleen
11-06-2003, 05:23 AM
I've had several strippers let me rub and kiss their vagina while kissing me a private dance. The cost is about $15 U.S. What a bargain! This is standard practice in Mexico. I think it really sucks how in the States or Canada you can't even touch the girls. Where's the fun in that? Viva Mexico!


I do hope you stay there then ::) I would not allow any of what you describe- yuck. Customers aren't going to put their hands or tongue IN me- and I am no angel either.

That is just so GROSS and my god for less than a standard lap dance price too. I hope you get std tests after every club visit or you may be a walking health hazard!

cinammonkisses
11-06-2003, 05:47 AM
OMG that is soooooooooo TRIFLIN'!! I hope that something that gross never happens to me! But I know just for saying that, It'll happen my first night I ever decide to dance...ewwww I would be traumatized

m
11-06-2003, 06:58 AM
Face it, most diseased you get from public pools, hot tubs and what not are bacteria shit that you normally do not come across. That is 100 percent different than having some guys jizz coming thru his pants. That is apples and oranges bone daddy.
my thought exactly, sepsis and clamydia are 2 different animals. you probably get sick more from shaking someones hand than using a pool, hot tub or jacuzzi...to err on the safe avoid any jacuzzi that has sharks with freakin laser beams on their heads.
just for kicks here is a web link, talking about the rarity of transmission via hot tub... http://www.mdadvice.com/topics/std/info/3.htm

aggieed
11-06-2003, 10:06 AM
BTW customers seem to really despise bathroom attentdants.

Yes, that's why we call them piss monkeys where I come from.

Tyler_Durden
11-06-2003, 10:38 AM
After reading 5 pages of this thread, I'm just amazed that guys can orgasm from lap dances. Granted I have never had a lap dance, but I just think back to when I've made out with a woman or whatever and there is usually some similar action happening and I can't see myself reaching orgasm.

You ladies must be very talented, or these guys are , uh, unique or something?

And bob, I know you are very knowledgeable. The condoms for lapdances are for what? To "catch" your fluids?

This is all pretty strange to me. And I totally understand the ladies that don't want strangers to cum on them. Who would?

Tina
11-06-2003, 11:42 AM
I was dancing for a young guy last week and he 'lost control'. I asked him if he was a virgin since he looked like one. I barely touched him too.
His buddies came to the rescue and took him home.

crazybob
11-06-2003, 11:53 AM
To Anias, Yes we have a machine in the men's room.
To Tyler_Durden, Yes they use them to cover and save there selve's from a wet slick on there slack's. As gross as it all sound's I can image's it's better then being embarassed.


As for the so called " Piss Monkey's " I feel that in a club that allow's customer contact in lap dance's would consider it essential because more men would be apt to wash there hand's when they are not alone in the bathroom. I feel for a girl that has to let men touch there body's after using the bathroom and not washing. It's just gross and then there's the guy's that touch that same girl after his pissy handed predecessor. Yuck is all I can think !!!!!

Tyler_Durden
11-06-2003, 12:16 PM
[quote]

If I had that problem, I think I might just stay at home. I can't believe that is this common that all these ladies have experienced it! But thanks for clearing up my question Mr. B. Like I said, you seem mightly knowledable.

Tyler

lestat1
11-06-2003, 07:12 PM
I asked him if he was a virgin since he looked like one.
? Did he have a pocket protecter and some '50s glasses or something? LOL

Melonie
11-06-2003, 10:19 PM
As much as I don't want to get jizzed on, I would not like my club to start providing condoms. When guys see condoms they are going to assume that they are for sex. It's already bad enough with guys asking what else they 'get' if they buy a champagne room. Condoms will definetly make them think they'll be getting something!

I agree 100% with this one! Even though it might prevent "wet spots", virtually every club that I have ever worked at which had a condom machine installed also had club customers expecting very high levels of contact. As Mariah said, the mere presence of a condom machine sends an unspoken message to customers that there's probably opportunities available to use them. In many cases, this is also true based on a few dancers offering 'extras'.

Also, to provide some perspective, the "wet spot" syndrome has probably happened to me once or twice a week when I've worked in contact clubs. However, if you figure I've done somewhere between 100 and 200 private dances during that week, we're talking about maybe 1 or 2% of private dance customers developing "wet spot" syndrome. I'm also probably more susceptible to it than most dancers because of the boob fetish thing (half the guys who "lose it" have spent the previous few minutes telling me how my tits are driving them crazy).

winter2003
11-06-2003, 10:49 PM
[oogle] [rotflmao]...Melonie, you are too cute...that last sentence, " half the guys who 'lose it' have spent the previous few minutes telling me how my tits are driving them crazy" was classic! Sensibility wrapped up with humor in a nice, neat package!!!

montythegeek
11-07-2003, 01:25 AM
? Did he have a pocket protecter and some '50s glasses or something? LOL

Duh, Lestat. I think you are talking about me!!
I have the glasses. but parked the pocket protector about 1970. The true geek now has a PDA and has gone tech. No ink, no pocket to protect from it. [monkeydance] [monkeydance] [monkeydance] [monkeydance] [monkeydance] [rotflmao]

Ps. In the context of a high contact lap dance, a condom is very similar in intent to the ultimate purpose of a pocket protector--more like a "pecker protector".

doc-catfish
11-07-2003, 03:44 AM
I can certainly understand the reservations that you gals have regarding a customer "losing control" of themselves, but things need to be kept in perspective.

Simply because you gals work in an enviroment with so many people in close proximity, your health is under far greater assault from common airborne viruses like influenza than you are from what may be lurking in a wet spot on a customers pants. Do you take money from the customer's mouth between your breasts, or God forbid, in your own mouth? Have you ever considered where those dollar bills have been or what might pathogens might be in them? This article may be of interest.

http://www.newscientist.com/conferences/confarticle.jsp?conf=amsmi200105&id=ns9999788

I hope you wash your hands throughly and often. With all the germ phobia we have, I'm really shocked that so many dancers are still doing that.

Tyler_Durden
11-07-2003, 07:16 AM
Do you take money from the customer's mouth between your breasts, or God forbid, in your own mouth? Have you ever considered where those dollar bills have been or what might pathogens might be in them?

Maybe the ladies should install debit card machines in their pants.

That was a joke. Sorry, I know it wasn't funny but I laughed.

velvet
11-07-2003, 07:38 AM
this happend last week to a girl i know so she spit in his eye as fair exchange of bodily fluids! a little extreme and i was so surprised she of all people did it. it is gross but i dont think most men mean to do it, and if they do they should give warning to back off. that was what made my friend so mad. she had just started the dance and was doing a sexy move down his side and ran into the mess. didnt even tell her. she saw red and she is the sweetest girl.

my club does NOT sell condoms nor does the bathroom attendent. that is like saying hey, you can get laid here. if they guys are worried about a mess bring your own from home. i actually worked at a lite contact club and a few guys told me they wore them in there. i was like wow i hardly get near you... (to myself or course)

teaseme1976
11-08-2003, 07:16 PM
I agree Dr. Catfish. See my earlier post. The girls don't seem interested in talking about all the germs on money though. Perhaps it's a risk/reward thing...

Corey
11-09-2003, 09:22 AM
(...less cash than anyday than grind some guys wanker so he can treat me like his own personal walking Jizz-Recepticle. )

Kaiyla,

Your "Jizz-receptacle" line is so-o-o-o funny. I was reminded of living in San Francisco and just walking and taking care of errands in my old neighborhood, an up-scale one. SF has a sizeable homeless problem and they usually come out at night. As I was crossing the street to mail a letter, a homeless man called me a,"ejaculatory-recepticle." :o :o

I was stunned by this for weeks! I had to admit in retrospect, it was pretty funny.

[cheers]

Corey

tom_pb
11-09-2003, 01:00 PM
From the dancers I have talked to in South Florida the fact that guys often orgasm while they are rubbing them doesn't seem to bother them. In fact there was one girl, who was into Domination, who really enjoyed her control over when and how the guy came. She worked at a club that let about anything go. But I've talked to girls at very high class clubs and came away with the impression that orgasm was pretty common among their customers. Its strange that things are so different in other areas of the USA.

sunshine
11-09-2003, 01:09 PM
it has happen to me but soon it does the guy is so inbaress hes thank you gives me my tip and i go in wash up

luna
11-09-2003, 05:23 PM
I work at a club in pensacola fl. you might have heard of us, the whole mike price incident (the alabama coach). artey's angel is a moderate contact club (lately they have been trying to crack down), but even with little to no contact, this happens every now and then. I try not to make them feel too uncomfortable, but make sure I use it to the best advantage... oh my god... if you tip well i'll get you out of here without the bouncer noticing!!!

Malibu
11-10-2003, 12:26 AM
I was dancing next to a girl in the VIP whose customer jizzed on her when she was dancing. She just looked at him, pointed at him (in the same manner you would when telling off a child) and said "I think your dance is over now" and showed him the exit!!
I guess it was one of those you-just-had-to-be-there situation. She was so majorly grossed out that night that she was clutching baby wipes all night and even left early to have a shower and recover!!
YEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUCCCCCHHHH!!!!!!!

BigRed1970
11-10-2003, 04:54 AM
with all this talk. I think I ought to devolpe, leak proof "club" underware for guys to wear if they are afraid they might sput..... 8) we can sell them on SCJ. this way you all can grind to yours hearts content with out worry. any way, for me the most dangerous move a dancer can do is the old "sit on my lap so my hardon is between the cheeks of ya ass and rub up and down" bit, for me this feels better than a HJ. when I was younger both times I lost control was from this move..... I got the gal away but it was too late to stop the eruption.... :-[

Brooklyn
11-11-2003, 02:18 PM
ok i did some research just cause i was curious there are two bacterial infections that can form in hot tubs if not properly cleaned right and they are called Legionella and Pseudomonas which causes skin rashs and maybe pnemonia but couldnt find anything real drastic,....

BigRed1970
11-11-2003, 09:56 PM
ok i did some research just cause i was curious there are two bacterial infections that can form in hot tubs if not properly cleaned right and they are called Legionella and Pseudomonas which causes skin rashs and maybe pnemonia but couldnt find anything real drastic,....

uh, legionares disease sounds pretty drastic to me :o