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silverandcold
08-19-2005, 09:32 AM
Exaaactly! We have 4 perv rows, one of each side of the stage and 2 long ones in front. Thank God most of the guys that sit there tip well, but I mean, they're drunk as all hell and act like complete assholes. Sometimes I'd rather say fuck it and leave without 100% of the tips I could have gotten, because I don't feel like being degraded by freaking idiots.

velvet
08-19-2005, 11:24 AM
You are cruel.


oh come on .get a sense of humor!

TJAndDani
08-19-2005, 12:25 PM
oh come on .get a sense of humor!


I do, its like sand paper. ;)

Foxey
08-20-2005, 01:43 PM
It's strange... at the bar that I am at now the DJs don't say anything at all about the dancer on stage. They do nothing to put the dancer over. They do the introduction and announce who is it, and occasionally they mention the fact that we are availiable for lap dances. I've never worked at a club where the DJs said so little. It kinda sucks. Also no one claps at this club. This is the first club I've ever worked at where no one claps. The first few times I went on stage there I was offended and thought it was just me, then I realized it was no one. It's fucked up but everywhere is different. Here is a good joke to use, fill in the blank with wherever you live "what is the difference between a _______ resident and a canoe? canoes tip!" If nothing else you'll get a chuckle.

AJM1987
08-20-2005, 02:03 PM
Last night was hard too. The club was empty, and for my second time on stage, NOBODY came up for 3 whole songs, not even a kid I've known for a long time.

I think it would be nice if the DJ would explain the meaning of "tipping rail".

Anyway, some guy came up and gave me $5 and walked away cuz he felt bad. That was the WORST feeling ever. One of the managers at my club said, "oh well, just count it as practice." I did. then I bitched at my friend for leaving me high and dry....

:)

Miaterria
04-02-2006, 06:36 PM
I have a comment to make about this. Yesterday was like the worst day. The guys who were at the stage wasn't tipping. Keep in mind in pretty good on the stage. We black girls weren't getting tipped on stage but all the white girls who came on stage got tips. I was so fucking pissed. I was there for 4 hours and only made 9 dollars. No one wanted a dance from us black girls and we are the best dancers at the club. I got so frustated and left. I'm not trying to make this a racist situation but people like what they like. It still frustating.

TarynJolie
04-02-2006, 06:54 PM
This is how I look at it.

You have two choices. You can be offended and upset, or you can focus on turning them into good customers.

I try to never let customers affect my mood. If they aren't bringing offerings of money, I can worship myself just fine without them :-)

Usually if no one's tipping I'll wait till the DJ announces the last song and everyone get up there she's gonna get naked thing, and I'll kinda smile and be cute and say "i don't think anyone wants to see my pussy" (which of course no one can hear) and he'll say "i think they want to see it... come on guys, who wants to see? get your dollars out" etc, and we'll just play back and forth. He knows that if he helps me out like that I'll split the stage money with him.

Or I just ignore them and dance for myself on the pole and in the mirror... count it as practice.

Lena

That is an awesome attitude Lena. I am really going to try and take that mindset the next time I have assholes at my stage.

PhillyDancer1982
04-02-2006, 07:32 PM
God the other week, I was so frustrated that I started humoring myself just to pass time. I told this joke to every dancer and DJ, and they all burst out laughing. "What did the little birdie say when it flew over the crowd of customers down there? Cheep, cheep!" Haha. Then I approached one of many guys who weren't tipping, what an ASShole. The next guy after the asshole was a friend of mine who ALWAYS tips, and more than just a single dollar too, and I said to him, "Mike, I got a joke for you" and told him. (He knew the joke was implied for the mass populus of customers, and not him.) He laughed his ass off like the others! But I think the loser asshole heard my joke(and I didn't care, I said it out loud on the floor for a reason!!) and got mad. HAHAHA.

Crow
04-02-2006, 07:52 PM
Yeah try farting on them, they seem to like this and will tip then.. and if they don't at least it
's good for a laugh. I do funny stuff on stage when guys don't tip.. like asking them if I look like their wife or if they like that guy sitting so close to them more then me. At the club I work at now the DJ's are AWESOME, they constantly remind guys to tip and that we don't get a check.

A work with you DJ makes the difference. Well, that and an accidentally knocked over drink. Oopsie. My bad.

daisey
04-03-2006, 05:03 AM
This is exactly why I try my damndest to stay off the stage!

PhillyDancer1982
05-04-2006, 02:06 AM
Fuck being Meek Little Stripper. If I were you, I probably woulda done the same thing to those cheap bastards. When you act like a meek humble little stripper, all that happens is, the assholes realize that they can step on you and treat you that way and get away with it. Cheap bastards take advantage of you any way they can, whether it be by insulting you, getting extras, getting free conversation without tipping/spending anything, etc. Fuck that. At my usual club, I'd been getting frustrated with cheap bastards too, and I started insulting back rude customers or mocking them when they wouldn't tip, although I made very sure that the managers were not within earshot when I did it.

cinammonkisses
05-06-2006, 07:06 PM
One of the top dancers at my club told me that if someone doesn't tip her, and she gets frustrated enough, she'll lean over and knock their pop over in their lap. I don't have the guts to do that though.

Lately it's been really sucky for me at stage. WE've had an influx of female customers coming in (like in groups of 5) all cliqued up and coming to the stage and just watching. The past 2 weekends I've worked I got so pissed that I wasn't making anything that I didn't even take my bottoms off. And I work at a nude club!!!!

RoseWhite
05-06-2006, 07:16 PM
Ooh, that really bugs. The women really ought to be told what the story is. I know, I know, what could be MORE obvious, really, but they might just be so overwhelmed with the whole experience (if they're new to it) that they might not be thinking straight (no pun intended). I'd want to gve them the benefit of the doubt . . . but they also shouldn't have to be told twice.

Kill 'em with kindness? I think when female customers come in, especially in girl-gaggles as opposed to being reluctantly dragged in by a pushy husband, it's an opportunity to make even more women comfortable with the concept AND make extra money. I know I've seen some very good female tippers, and always have been one myself.

Perhaps I'm too idealistic, as a newbie?

cinammonkisses
05-06-2006, 07:27 PM
Kill 'em with kindness? I think when female customers come in, especially in girl-gaggles as opposed to being reluctantly dragged in by a pushy husband, it's an opportunity to make even more women comfortable with the concept AND make extra money. I know I've seen some very good female tippers, and always have been one myself.


Now, I'll be honest, the club I work at now is the same club I would come to (only like 3x) and I never tipped a dollar. They werne't doing anything "special" to me.

Last weekend, I almost smacked the shi outta a clique of girls. It was about 4 of them. High sidditty type females. I smiled and said "hi" as I walked past them, them h**** had the nerve to turn their nose up at me! :O I ignored it, and went on about my business. Then I noticed that every time I went to do a dance, they stood on the wall and watched me. ALL 4 OF THEM! It was almost as if they were critiquing me.

hazeljames
05-07-2006, 02:47 AM
okay i just have to add my own little story from last week.
im a new dancer so im still stuck working day shifts and last week was dead dead dead. at about 3pm a group of 4 business men came into the club ordered beers and sat at a table near the stage but not at the rack. they proceeded to sit there and drink and watch the dancers but not tip a single dollar for a full hour. keep in mind that they are the ONLY customers in the club at this point. so its my turn on stage and i get up there do my first song, finish, look at the rack and theres no money. not even $1. my next song starts i dance a little and then i sit down half naked on the rack facing the group of guys with both middle fingers up until one of them gets up and puts a dollar down. i get up and dance for a few more seconds and then my song ends. as im leaving the stage i said to them "if you dont tip were all just going to stand up here fully clothed". their reply was "oh, is that how it works?" fuckers. they stayed for another 30 minutes and only tipped 2 more dollars total. i hate people like that...

cinammonkisses
05-07-2006, 05:22 AM
my next song starts i dance a little and then i sit down half naked on the rack facing the group of guys with both middle fingers up until one of them gets up and puts a dollar down.

Honestly, I wouldn't recommend you doing that. It's rude and disrespectful. Plus (depending on how your club is ran) you could be fired. During dayshifts when we get customers who don't tip, alot of the girls will approach the men after their stage set and say, " I saw you watching my performance, will you be tipping" 99% of the time, the men have always tipped.

My theory is, if you hit them up like that for $1-$2 then they won't want to spend any "real" money on you later. But if you are convinced that they aren't there to really spend, and only want a free show, then hit them up for that $2.

hazeljames
05-08-2006, 11:49 PM
it may be "rude and disrespectful", but so is sitting there and trying to take in a free show. no worries about being fired for that type of behavior at my club. its an alternative club with all alternative girls and we stand up for ourselves. its basically expected that if youre a jerk the girls will let you know. and to be honest what i did is a lot less extreme than what some of the other girls would do.
those guys werent there to spend money, if they were i would have been my normal nice and playful stripper self. so fuck em. nobody looks at my titties for free }:D

cdysgrl
07-03-2006, 11:08 PM
I think it's rude to sit at the stage and not tip. It really makes me mad...it happens alot. Our Dj always tells the customer "If your not tipping, then the girls are stripping" I have a habit of pulling out my boobs for a customer who is tipping then cover then back up, that usually sends a hint to the other guys that if you want to see my tits then u have to tip.

Lexie2005
07-09-2006, 07:08 AM
At our club it was up to the bouncers and managers to watch for those cheap a**holes that are trying to get a free show and move them away from the stage or out of the club, yet they seemed to never do that. So I started to not tip them at the end of the night and then explain why... Its amazing how sometimes the paid club staff don't think they have to do anything but can still get payout. Yet we are the ones that have to hustler and get the money.

exotisch23
07-09-2006, 09:35 AM
A guy came up with a fat wad of ones and a look of admiration on his face, we all know the "look" and asked one of the cheapeis if he could have his seat for a minute, and the cheapie said no. So the guy went back to the bar, and after my set I went up and thanked him for trying, and he took good care of me.


Are you kidding? I would've kicked that cheap ass loser out of his seat to make way for the better tipper in a second! Well it's a good thing he took care of you afterwards.

I am notorious for giving people the middle finger (while on stage), I know it's rude but I don't care.

Yekhefah
07-09-2006, 05:22 PM
Best response for rude, non-tipping stage hogs... I heard this tonight. One of the dancers at my club had just such a rat who was giving her a hard time over tipping. Finally he pulls out one dollar and with a big air of doing a major favor, he flicks it at her. She just gave him a withering look as the music faded out, and where the whole club could hear, she snapped, "Oh, just go home and fuck your fat ugly wife. No one else wants you around!"

She's my hero now for that. :D

Jen Valentino
07-09-2006, 07:13 PM
My club doesn't have a policy about having to remove clothes on stage, so I usually just leave them on anyway, unless there's a spectacular tipper (20+'s) and pick clothing that I can easily pop a breast out of, or a skirt I can lift. So if they aren't tipping, I simply show nothing.

Depending on my mood, I'll either dance for myself in front of the mirrors, rehearse moves, and all that other shit. If I'm in a particularly nasty mood, I'll just sit my ass right against the pole and take a nap.

I won't ever show customers that I'm pissed off, but I'll have a wry, knowing smirk as I lounge around, and usually they return the smile and get the message. I'm always getting close to guys, rubbing my face against theirs, never taking my eyes off them for the minute or so (unless they keep the cash flowing). However, I'm giving a guy a private, close-up show and the motherfuckers still won't bite, I just won't even acknowledge them anymore.

My DJ also likes to stop the music and sarcastically sneer, "If you put money on the stage... you get to see boobies."

A lot of the girls will actually just sit at the end of the stage and swing their legs off it, talking to eachother. I rarely see a girl bust her ass for a dollar that she won't even recieve.

It kinda makes me laugh that I'll work harder for a dollar (on stage) than for $20+ during a lap dance. ;)

UtterlyOpiate
07-10-2006, 12:36 AM
"Does it ever feel like when you don't need the money, you tend to make good cash, but when you really need it, you fall wayyyy beneath the minumum you need to make?"





Save during the good times and the bad times will be much easier to manage.

Lexie2005
07-10-2006, 05:12 AM
If I am really irratated by a cheap customer and he only tips a dollar after a set , I will hand it back to him and tell him " No thanks, I think you may need it more than I do" that pisses them off- oh well

Cheif_Bigfoot
07-10-2006, 05:26 AM
What would you ladies consider to be a correct amount if you are sitting at the rail. Where I tend to go it's a three song set and the first song I'd normally tip a buck (normally "clothed" through the first song). Tip a couple for the next couple of songs when more comes off. Normally 5 bucks for the three songs unless of course I really like her then I will tip more. I tend to kinda use the tip rail as a place to see the girls a bit better and then they normally say hello or something when the come over and I tend to get an idea of who I'd like a couch dance from. Even if I'm sitting back farther in the club it's because I might not be feeling as brave at that time to go sit up front. I'm one of the younger 20 somethings (23) that it would seem have a bad rep but I just wanted to say that for me (and I'd have to guess other guys also) coming over and saying hi after a dance will likely get you a tip because I may not be comfortable going up to the stage. Ya that bit is slightly off topic but thought I'd throw it out there.

Just also know that if you are getting dressed and not doing a very good stage show I think you are hurting your potential to get dances from the guys farther back that are a bit shyer our would like a somewhat more private setting.

KennedyWinters
07-16-2006, 08:58 PM
The DJ I usually work with refuses to even put girls on the stage if even one person is not tipping. He tell them why the stage is closed and that usually helps. Maybe thats not appropo for a "gentlemans club" but if they aren't ACTING like gentlemen then they are going to be warned about it. He says "mandatory tip rail in full effect here" and other things to that effect.

IvyLynn
07-21-2006, 05:50 AM
alright, I know it's not like this at every club, but it should be. At my club, if the guy is sitting at the tip rail, you go get your tip. If he doesn't have any money you tell him he -must- move to a table/the bar/etc, anywhere but the "tip rail". It's called that for a reason. Those are pay seats and you must pay at least a dollar per song to sit there.

I'd suggest if you have meetings at work to bring it up. Have your DJs get on the guy's cases, hell, have the bouncers get on their cases. It's one thing if they arn't at the tip rail and watching you, but when they sit at the pay seats they must pay. Talk to the other girls, get them to start demanding their money. It's bad enough that it's hard to get a buck out of these guys, why make it harder on yourself. remember, it's a "tip rail" that means you must tip to be there. They may have payed a cover charge to get in, but you don't get any of that money at the door. They haven't payed you yet. Tell them that. It's alright to be a bit bitchy sometimes hehe

The first couple of places I worked at wern't like that, and I was leary about getting my money, but now I'm insistant about it, and my bosses agree with me. How could they not once you explain it?

Yekhefah
07-21-2006, 06:43 AM
I've had good luck with this several times... when people are sitting there and not tipping, I'll just dance around with my clothes on for awhile. If no money comes out by halfway through the first song, I'll lean in close and say with a little wink, "Money makes my clothes come off!" Once they put out some money, I take off my top, and they get the idea. It has worked very well for me.

unique420
07-21-2006, 11:41 PM
I once read a post here where someone claimed it was "tacky" to put your clothes back on during your set. The majority of dancers at my club have a different take. It's like this; when we're up there exposed as one could possibly be, and the crowd doesnt have the decency to part with a few bucks, any thoughts about "tackiness" just goes right out the window. We get dressed. When the cheapskates come to the profound realization that strip clubs arent FUN without dancers taking off their clothes, it "occurs" to them that tipping might be the decent thing to do. And the clothes come back off.




That's beautiful! I thought I was the only one that did that!

velvet
07-22-2006, 05:02 AM
^^^^^
the reason we say it's tacky is because well it is. it shows the WHOLE ROOM not just the stage side guys that you are being bitchy . not a good sport, by putting your clothes back on in the middle of your stage show. that high roller in the back ground who may have spent money now changes his mind. he sees that you are thowing a fit over a few dollars and moves on. you have to remember everyone in the club is watching you and not just the guys at the stage.

Sinn
07-25-2006, 02:50 PM
yeah Velvet thats the hardest part..knowing everyone else is watching.
When things get really bad, Ill dance around on stage with a playful smile, and then choose a likely target from the crowd. Then Ill wave at him or blow him a kiss. If that one dosent work (and its about a 50-50 shot) I'll wave my hand at them, or do the finger wave (like where you curl your finger to say come here) That works too. Embarasses em to get em out of thier seat...Put them in the spotlight too and makes 'em have to participate wether they like it or not. These MoFo's are in our club, its our environenment and our rules. No free peeps. Adnd when that one MoFo finaly gets a clue, he comes up, and i let him see the goods only and cover up when he leaves. In other words, money=show. Others follow suit. Then it becomes a private show for the ones who participate and the other dudes are left high and dry LOLs

(im just topless BTW so it can be a challenge to make a tip after the cheap-arse bastards pay a 10$ cover and 5$ for a drink:D)

Andygirl
07-25-2006, 03:02 PM
^^^^^
the reason we say it's tacky is because well it is. it shows the WHOLE ROOM not just the stage side guys that you are being bitchy . not a good sport, by putting your clothes back on in the middle of your stage show. that high roller in the back ground who may have spent money now changes his mind. he sees that you are thowing a fit over a few dollars and moves on. you have to remember everyone in the club is watching you and not just the guys at the stage.

I agree with this.

My stage show isn't necessarily always about getting tips up there. It's so that I can show off for the rest of the guys in the club who are sitting elsewhere. The revenue that generates is far more than anything I'll make on stage.

I think it's about putting on a show. Men like a classy lady who knows what she is doing up there. I can't imagine putting my clothes back on or making a big thing over a few bucks. That doesn't present the kind of image I want to project.

Kaiyla
07-25-2006, 03:58 PM
I remember this thread! I must clarify on what I meant though when I first commented about putting my clothes back on. I have and never would put my clothes on if were even SEMI-busy. I am talking about those horribly unfortunate nights where it IS just those six or seven losers sitting at the stage just not tipping -no one else in the club, no one else (but the waitstaff, bouncers, and dj) watching from afar. I always felt in this type of circumstance, the guys were just being little mindfucks because they knew they were the only ones in the club that night, they knew we weren't making shit, and still didn't bother to tip -and it's those same guys set after set. You get a little fed up. Seriously. Nothing made me feel more used and worthless than standing there naked for a bunch of cheap, rude jerks who want to play Big Man with their dollar.
I used to have a regular that would come see me at this club maybe twice a week, so I'd be all set for champagne or any other dances. Still, required to go on the stage anyhow, you bet your ass I'd slowly redress if these guys weren't tipping. I was all set for the night -the only additonal cash I could make WAS the stage so if they weren't tipping, why give them the satisfaction? And there were girls who did it without regulars paying them big money that night. It worked for us on most of those nights because eventually after staring at clothed strippers, some of the dumbasses actually got it "oh, these girls must work off of tips." ::)

hot4ablackchick
07-26-2006, 09:02 AM
Yeah, I too have gotten dressed on people at the tiprail. I would NOT do this if the club was busy and the people at the tiprail were lame. But as Kaiyla said, when the club is pretty empty, and the losers are all at the tiprail not tipping, then I WILL not hesistate to get redressed on their ass, or if they are still there on my next set, I will not get naked. It is rude as hell to me to sit at the stage and not tip. It may not be the most classy thing to do, but it is not classy to sit at my stageshow and not even come off $1 to tip! I will still give a good stageshow no matter what, but I will not get naked for free!!!!

IvyLynn
07-27-2006, 01:06 AM
amen sweety. I'm all about either not getting naked, or if my boss bitches at me I just hide myself my entire stageshow. I'll use my arms, my hair, dance with my back to them more often then not, etc.

If they can't tip me a even a dollar I'm not going to show the anything. They paid admission at the door, but they didn't pay me yet hehe

Lexie2005
07-27-2006, 01:37 AM
I was totally talking about if it was a slow night too. If there is only a few guys and many girls and then no tipping. Expecially if there are no table dances happening.
I have never put my clothes back on, just they won't go off & if they guy is being rude and the only one at the stage not tipping or a dollar per set. I don't think most of the guys would appreciate us going into there jobs and expecting something for nothing.... I am always about putting on a show, and to show that I am a professional and normally in my club there are stage girls and that is where they make all there money & they don't do other dances or ladies that only make there money on private dances and not on stage.

So to girls that do go all out on stage and not get anything , it is a slap in the face. If they do feel like putting there clothes back on is the only way to let there anger out.. I don't think its saying there not good dancers or professional, everyone deals with issues there own way. At least there not running off the stage crying or yelling at the customer & trust me I have seen it. Now thats not classy or professional....

manchester
11-23-2006, 02:41 PM
i know the feeling all too well

often times it gets to the point where i dont even go over to big groups that haven't even started putting the dollars on the stage!

and i'm not talking about the couples or the buddies sitting by each other where one of em throws out 2 or 3 bucks "from the both of them".

anyway, it's often general club etiquette if not POLICY the customers can actually get in trouble for that a minimum $1 tip is mandatory sitting at the stage.

i am very very sorry that your dj is that shitty. i used to work at a kinda sleazier (forgive me!) club with a lot less business, and one of the only two clubs of the 10+ in the area that was 18+ and not 21+ so you'd have a lot of cheap younger dudes come in. basically there was about 10 of them at my stage and i got $2 from the ten of them. of course being a smaller club the staff was a little tighter with the dancers. after having told off the jackasses (hey, being polite to jerks is only done when i'm getting paid to do it - obvs i wasn't!) i had the dj announce to back the fuck off the stage and you need to tip if you're sitting there. eh. might have helped someone?

like i said
obviously if you're not getting paid to be nice
you don't have to be!
i'd tell the assholes straight up

i know my advice sucks

dance77
04-19-2008, 09:37 AM
This is annoying, the ones the annoy me most are those guys who sit there and somehow think they can make negative comments on every dancer like her set and her moves , even when she's on stage!!
One time this happened to me in a crowd of unresponsive and rude guys and I faked a kick to his head but managed to implement it into my dance routine in this guys direction, all of a sudden the smug look on his face turned to fear and he totally shut up the rest of the night in his front row seat.

Cameo
04-20-2008, 01:23 PM
I hope this is true, but I've asked customers and some say "well I thought the club pays you by the hour?" They just don't know I guess!

Does anyone here work at a club the pays you an hourly wage?

misslizzy
04-21-2008, 10:06 PM
I've put my clothes back on once.

My favorite was the time we had a club full of guys, all clamoring to be at the stage, not one of whom tipped a single girl. The DJ had been mocking them, and the girls had stopped even taking off outfits, much less putting them back on. I went up, and took off my top to show the dollar bills I had taped over my nipples.

I netted three whole dollars from that set, but everyone I worked with was cracking up, so who cared at that point, right?

Andygirl
04-21-2008, 10:45 PM
I agree with this.

My stage show isn't necessarily always about getting tips up there. It's so that I can show off for the rest of the guys in the club who are sitting elsewhere. The revenue that generates is far more than anything I'll make on stage.

I think it's about putting on a show. Men like a classy lady who knows what she is doing up there. I can't imagine putting my clothes back on or making a big thing over a few bucks. That doesn't present the kind of image I want to project.

Lol, the funny thing about this thread is that I wrote this right when I first came back to dancing. Now my opinion is just the opposite. Fuck those cheap motherfuckers! If they don't tip, they don't get to see me naked. And if I'm dancing around for three songs and don't get a tip, you can be damn sure I'll put the clothes back on if I've taken anything off.

Funny how things change once you are back in the mix! LOL! Call me jaded, but I just don't care.:D

Evan86
04-12-2010, 04:39 PM
Kick them.

That's what I like to do.

Athenathefabulous
04-12-2010, 04:41 PM
Lol, the funny thing about this thread is that I wrote this right when I first came back to dancing. Now my opinion is just the opposite. Fuck those cheap motherfuckers! If they don't tip, they don't get to see me naked. And if I'm dancing around for three songs and don't get a tip, you can be damn sure I'll put the clothes back on if I've taken anything off.

Funny how things change once you are back in the mix! LOL! Call me jaded, but I just don't care.:D


dude im so with you. especially if it is a club that has emphasis on the stage show and they are sitting in the tipping area. at an upscale club where the stage is unimportant, then i wont... but if there is a crowd gawking me at the stage then they are either going to tip or im going to be a clothed jerk.

maybe its unprofessional, but whatever. ive had it with 'professionalism' that is actually a code word for tolerate retarded customers and management.

hot4ablackchick
04-13-2010, 03:08 AM
^^^ :rotfl: LOL at putting up with retarded customers = professionalism.

Well, I have gotten re-dressed on many a occassion in my career. I can't say I will always do that, but it really depends on who is in the room. If its pretty busy in the club, but the stage seems packed with cheap asses, then I probably won't do it. You never know who is watching out in the audience. If the club is dead or just filled with a "just looking" crowd, then they will not see me not naked at all or only a glimpse at most ! I totally understand why girls do it, but keep in mind that your stage sets are like your commercials. If there are other guys in the room, its best to just forget about the cheap asses. I really don't understand the people who sit at the rail and don't tip. If it is busy I feel mgmt should make people leave their seats, as they are taking seats from would be paying customers.

raindragonfly
08-02-2010, 05:52 AM
i've had a large group of frat boy types sit around main while i was up and COMPLETLY block it so no one else could tip. the all set their beers on the stage and proceeded to gawk/be rude and not tip. you know what i learned that night? if you aim your kick JUST right, you can get a mug of beer to cover at least 5 morons. ;-)

Sinn
08-02-2010, 11:26 AM
I was at a club one night where there was a guy there all night by the tip rail, holding out a dollar and when the dancer came over and did a VERY long show in front of him he would put the dollar back in his pocket and laugh with his friends.

That was the night that i OOPS.. spilled the drink in his lap by doing a very sneaky move on stage that looked like a totally innocent accident. he went home with wet pants.

We deserve recognition for every moment on the stage. So, we have to train them to respect us. It's not easy at first but if they are going to be ballsy then so do we. ASK him for that dollar if he does not offer it. Believe me, he is obliged to give it to you.

On slow nights, i would actually ask for tips when i was working the floor. I usually did it when the guy would turn down the dance, and most of the time it worked. No money no honey!

Maybe do some cam work on the side so you can always have extra cash on hand? Just a thought..

Kellydancer
08-02-2010, 12:19 PM
I hated these customers. I remember two incidents with the cheap men and they each had different outcomes. The first club had just opened and got these cheapos who came for the cheap beer. So the room was packed and the first dancer got on stage and not one person tipped her. She held out her garter, nothing so she walked off the stage. Second girl, same thing. I did the same thing and we confronted the manager about this. He actually agreed with us.

Second case, and this one makes me angry. I was working at another club and the stage was packed. I get on stage and walk around to all of the guys. Not ONE guy tipped, nor did any of them even have money out (usually a sign). So the second song starts and I look like I am about to remove my top but before I do that I walk around again and still nothing. Several guys had the audacity to tell me they aren't going to tip because "they have no money". Then why are you in a club? Another guy asked when I was going to remove my top and I said "when you tip me". He then said he wasn't going to tip me. So instead, I start doing a tap dancing routine without removing any piece of clothing. I get off stage and the manager starts yelling at me, how dare I not take off my top, how I am refusing to work, etc. I tell him that none of the guys are tipping and there aren't any other guys in the club. He says he doesn't care because these guys come to see tits and they are mad! I start yelling back (I don't put up with shit from anyone) that I am PAYING to work there so I am entitled not to take off my top when guys aren't paying. During this time another girl also goes through the same thing and she gets yelled at. She tells the manager off and walks back to get dressed to quit. He tells me I can stay if I promise to take my top off next time. I tell him I can't promise that if they aren't tipping. He starts calling me names and saying how dare I yell back (or something like that). I said I've had enough of you and walk back, pack my stuff and leave. Then a few days later he calls me to ask when I am coming back because I owe him money (yeah, even though this club was empty except for these cheapos house was something like $50. I tell him never and hang up. Thankfully he never knew my real name or address. A few years later this club was busted for prostitution because most of the girls I later found out were extra girls.

shift_6x
08-02-2010, 12:35 PM
Sadly so many customers sit and either barely tip or worse dont tip and sit there and talk to whoever happens to be next to them. I used to have the reputation of barely dancing for a dollar. Ha it is even funny to me that Im discussing this..The cheap asses actually got mad and told the owner of the club that i would barely dance for their dollar..HAAAA Now no one really gives me a hard time bc ill squash them or it now..But that was so funny..The cheap little complaining fucks actually ran to the manager and complained like little bitches.....What do they expect an entire dance for a dollar? No I dont think so.. If u give me a dollar and there is more more money laying on my runway u r going to get a thirty second dance..if the avg song is four mins ill try to get to at least three people minimum depending on how much they r tipping sorry but if ur giving me 7 to 10 dollars ur going to get maybe a min and half verses 20 secs maybe on ur measly dollar :)

Athenathefabulous
08-02-2010, 01:51 PM
The other day a custie wouldnt tip when itold him it was a min of one dollar per song to sit at the tip rail. I got mad and took his hat off his head and threw it across the room and told him to go away and get it and stay away from the tip rail since he clearly didn't belong there.

miamia4me
08-02-2010, 02:07 PM
In a business book I read a decent piece of advice, "Competition, they are our friends and the customers, they are our enemies." When dancers look after each other they can usually take care of the asshole customers, just like employees in any line of work. There will always be another pervert to come along anyway..weed out the cheapies. I treat customers the same way they treat me. No money, then no show, no talk, no dance..nothing.