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charlygirl
01-23-2005, 01:27 AM
Have you guys notice that there are 2,357 views for this thread but only 50 posts? Maybe theres a whole lot of black women out there who arent saying anything. Hm.

katerina29
02-19-2005, 03:09 PM
Ebony you mentioned you work day shifts, have you not been offered the night shift? If so I can't see why not, your stunning.

Polo Girl
08-26-2005, 09:16 PM
Holy crap that was funny!

Yeah I know guys w/ like no teeth and freakin chewin cherry skoal

MinahSky
08-26-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm still offended by the word "colored" being used.... and we wonder why this thread exists?

Hef
08-27-2005, 01:01 PM
I like them all. :D

All my buddies know I like the black girls (I'm an Italian white guy BTW). Light-skinned, dark-skinned, doesn't matter. If she looks good and has a good personality I'll give her my attention.

MsTopaz
08-28-2005, 05:51 AM
I'm still offended by the word "colored" being used.... and we wonder why this thread exists?


i wouldn't let that bother me too much if i were you hun. if i remember correctly, the woman that posted this thread is a sista' from the netherlands (sp). race relations might be different over there.

Scorpiokitten22
09-20-2005, 01:05 PM
I think this whole thing is sad. I from New Jersey and have danced at all white clubs and have danced at all mixed club. Having to work harder not at all. Men Like women of all races and being from the north there a lot of clubs to work at . I have only had one club turn me away and hire my friend because of race and the club was raid two days later. I have even danced in New York were the mangement loved having mixed girls. I have a very pretty face and being mixed helps just a little bit, but even more I've danced in some of the best clubs New York has to offer wtihout any problems. I believe it's up to the dancer to find the best club for here not by what others say ,because what worked for me might not work for another dancer. As for as being in the south it is different but even still it is a good mix of dancers. Even going to an all white club( whatever an all white club is) go as a customer and you would be amazed at what the men will say to a woman of color but again it's not like that everywhere. If some club does not hire you because whatever you make think. then that's there lost ,keep moving with your head high. I am about to start working in Australia and have talked to many customers there and women of color are a pleasure to have there and some think other wise but that would not cause them to be rude.

Natalia108
09-20-2005, 06:57 PM
Here in Adelaide i have worked with but 4 coloured dancers...

One of which was indian who in fact was top money earner night after night for over 4 years straight...

I have never come across and club owner over here nort hiring cause of colour i think that it would be a bonus here as there are so few and it would be something different..

MinahSky
09-20-2005, 07:38 PM
I know, but if she (or anyone else)came here and said that to a person of color, the reaction wouldn't be good. I would be remiss if I said nothing.

It's one crazy world we live in...

Scorpiokitten22
09-22-2005, 11:53 AM
What do you mean by the reaction wouldn't be good?

sloppyjoe
09-22-2005, 08:04 PM
i live in the ohio valley. there's two clubs close by in w.va. and they both have 1 black girl each. i don't know how much dough they rake in, but i live in a small, mostly white area and they got hired. so that's good. i'm always attracted to chicks even though i am straight. and as a female strip club enthusiastic: a hot chick is hot, no matter what color. and i think men feel the same way. :)

cindythebellydancer
09-28-2005, 06:53 AM
cash for sure because clubs take 5-10% of the money from club coins...so cash for sure..thanks for asking honey

ladybuiz
12-04-2005, 11:27 AM
well in my past experince with this subject u can be discrimnated aganist because of your color it has to do with unfortunatley the previous girls they have hired of color they kind of set the bar, and if they were slutty or dating guys then that is what they can judge u by I have worked at all types of clubs high end clubs and low end clubs and u basically have to leave a good impression with the clubs u work at if you don't you mess it up for the next girl who is not white. so my word of advice is do a damn good job of hustling without selling your self short for quick money outside the club walls.

lbt
12-04-2005, 12:58 PM
In clubs Ive worked in Ive seen a few customers that prefer black women. While these customers arent the majority, they tend to wait specifically for the black dancer, dump boatloads of money on her and be VERY loyal. From what Ive seen these guys usually just spend the night talking and get no dances. It just goes to show every guy likes a different kind of girl, they(the customers) may be in the minority but they are out there.

TigersMilk
12-04-2005, 01:07 PM
In clubs Ive worked in Ive seen a few customers that prefer black women. While these customers arent the majority, they tend to wait specifically for the black dancer, dump boatloads of money on her and be VERY loyal. From what Ive seen these guys usually just spend the night talking and get no dances. It just goes to show every guy likes a different kind of girl, they(the customers) may be in the minority but they are out there.

I totally agree with that. Matter of fact last time I was working in the SC this older white guy dumped a good amount of change on me and one of the other black girls working that night. They will wait and turn everything that comes to them down if they want a certain type.

After readin alot of threads on black dancers this and that. Why is it so hard to make money blah blah blah. Ive had my racist comments before or maybe its b/c I live in CA. I dont see what the big deal is. When guys see me Im black to them no matter how I change or what I wear. I dont have to deal with it on a nightly basis and most men are surprised (sadly) that I am so well spoken and mature. I dont see why its so hard for other black girls.

TigersMilk
12-04-2005, 01:10 PM
Just to add why some clubs may not hire a black dancer it may be b/c that they dont need any more dancers of that kind. At one of my clubs we dont need anymore 'models' so wed turn down anyone regardless of race.

Sometimes a club will like to have a good balance of dancers. They know guys like variety.

greggy
12-04-2005, 01:44 PM
This is why I'm dying to open up a club of my own... A nice, medium to upscale club with a good mix of dancers and clientele. It's time for someone to get it right

LilSweetVixen
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
If race is an issue, there are ways to make black an advantage. My favorite types.

The Black customer: Fake pimps who aren't recruiting. He has to pay to add credibility to all of this. He's a so-called manager of a singing/rap group. He's a gangsta who jumped 30 felons and busted out of Attica. He's a would-be baller or a Mason. The fantasy works better with a black girl if she seems to believe this or can naturally relate.

Perk, White customer: He has a black girlfriend, he grew up in a black neighborhood, went to a black school, etc. read: he has never met a single black in his life and he knows it. he likes the fact that you're black just because you're black. you understand. you console him when he talks about getting arrested for protesting and approve of his fake dreadlocks. he pays because he knows how it is to survive as a menace on the run from the Man. but beware if he brings up a painful childhood memory, or wish to escape his troubled "black roots".

PleasureVictim
12-04-2005, 07:43 PM
I'm thankful for the honesty in these types of threads, but at the same time knowing this can get discouraging before I even try to get my foot in the door. :-(

But I'll still give it a shot.

AllieC
12-05-2005, 01:15 PM
Personally, I have never had a problem with being hired as a mixed black woman. I know it is how I carry myself. That being said most of my customers are white (if not all) if find this amusing cause sometimes they say they prefer white women but yet spend their time and money with me.
I have seen women turned away from jobs due to their color but i believe in some (most) cases it was the way they presented themselves either not with confidence or too cocky and with an awful attitude.
Attitudes definately don't get you anywhere in this business.
Though this is true of most cases some it is not and I believe it is wrong to assume how a person will perform based on color (race).
Personality, intelligence and beauty can overcome most of these problems ;) unfortunately some owners don't see this. >:(

LilSweetVixen
12-05-2005, 02:15 PM
I'm thankful for the honesty in these types of threads, but at the same time knowing this can get discouraging before I even try to get my foot in the door. :-(

But I'll still give it a shot.

I find it's good to expect the worst. That way you'll be pleasantly surprised:) . I worked at a mixed club which is midlevel 'lounge' in DC. Most of the patrons were white, and I did very well. Some guys looked like they wouldn't give a black girl the time of day, well you know what I mean, like we were just so different. Well when I approached them smiling I was surprised to see their faces light up, they would compliment me, and tip me, some would urge me to sit down and chat, some would offer to buy me a lunch or a drink. Many wanted to know exactly what days I work. One white business guy rushed to the tip rail and sat right there as soon as a showed a leg, and get flipping out his ones. Many of the college guys liked the fact that I knew about white fraternities. Many of the rockers like the fact that I listen to metal. This was in four weeks cousin not years. It was just my holiday break. I banked so much in four weeks I never had to ask my mom for money or get a job that whole semester.

I also worked in Cary, NC which is stark white and midlevel 'gentlemen's' I did well there too. The top biller was a black girl with short hair, followed by a Hispanic, and a blondie. All the girls other girls made more or less the amount. Once I bombed and only made like $70 I was so scared that I sucked, until I found out that this beautiful veteran who looks like Pamela Anderson had made, you guessed it $70. The next day, this around the way black girl told me she had made $700. All three of them, her, the gothic girl, and a Hispanic girl had made $600-700. It can depend on how many people are there, time of day and stuff you have no control over. There are even black girls at the eighth best SC in the ENTIRE WORLD which is around here.

And no I am a far cry from some Tyra Banks or someone who is just a dark version of a Pamela Lee, and I'm brown skinned. Confidence, friendliness, if they reject you, happens to everyone. It's not always because you're black.

BUT we're being honest because we just don't want you to be naive or sugarcoat life. This is the Western world. There has never been a non-white president. 92% of Americans are not black. Even at college, though it's a Big Ten school, and it's racially diverse, we tell ourselves that a black guy with a PHD is still a Nigg**, we just want to be prepared to handle conflicts. I say if this biz were always easy, I would be a little ashamed that I would do something just because I can't fail at it. What makes it art is the skill it takes, what makes it something to be proud of is success which can only be measured if there are obstacles in your way!! You just never know until you try. Tell yourself that you OWN this business and convince yourself that that club would be nothing without you.

PleasureVictim
12-07-2005, 10:31 AM
Thanks LilSweetVixen- I'll definetly read your words more than a couple of times in the future.

Helle
12-08-2005, 06:48 AM
I work at an upscale predominatly white club here in Columbus.... And our manager is black. We hire all types indiscreminatly but we seem to have mostly white girls because I guess they make more money and so they stick around longer.

Speaking of racism, if you live here in Ohio and see the Night Vision magazine, they refuse to put a black woman as their covergirl because they say it 'won't appeal to the general strip club public'. And this is true--When was the last time you saw a black, mixed or latin girl on the cover..?

detroitdiva22
12-08-2005, 11:01 AM
:-[ :-[ Oh, Tina, I totally agree. Racism is still very prevalent and in the clubs everyday. I am a black (colored) dancer and I haven't personally endured any racism, but I can feel it. A white girl that is a 3 will still make bank over a black girl who may be a 7 or 8. Black women have to be prettier, sexier, and tighter in a predominately white club to ensure that she will make money. I live in Michigan, one of the most segregated northern states. Detroit is consists of blacks and the surburbs, across "8 mile" are mostly whites. But most of the strip clubs are in Detroit, and Dearborn. There aren't any strip clubs in the burbs. So where do the white girls go? In the city to the more pretigious clubs, and are accepted there beca use they are more in demand. It's frustrating. Its also real. So as a "colored" dancer, I either have to shape up, or ship out!

cinammonkisses
01-08-2006, 01:15 PM
Speaking of racism, if you live here in Ohio and see the Night Vision magazine, they refuse to put a black woman as their covergirl because they say it 'won't appeal to the general strip club public'. And this is true--When was the last time you saw a black, mixed or latin girl on the cover..?


Dam, now that you mentioned that...you're absolutely right?! I hardly see dancers of color IN the magazine, let alone on the cover. :-\

MulattoKitten
01-09-2006, 11:48 AM
Dam, now that you mentioned that...you're absolutely right?! I hardly see dancers of color IN the magazine, let alone on the cover. :-\

And honestly, I see more good looking black, mixed, asian, "ethnic" women nowadays because it's nice to see something different.

But, I have a soft spot for white girls too. To me (but what do I know, I'm not a male) I think a sexy girl is a sexy girl, is a sexy girl no matter what color she is. Hell, she doesn't even have to look all that good, she just has to carry herself in a way that's very sexy.

I can see me becoming a dancer is going to be a little harder than I thought now.

LilAlize
02-07-2006, 07:18 PM
The managers should hire more than 3 black girls per shift!! That does not make no sense!! Racism is everywhere. And I know i am not going to put a end to it. But I will take ACTION if i am the victim!! I agree with you Tina!!

LilAlize
02-07-2006, 07:25 PM
I have seen so many racial threads!! LORD PLEASE dont let me see no more!! I am getting mad!! I can not believe all of this. White girls are no better than black girls. The only difference is 2 things. 1. Black girls are more curvy than white girls and they look good with it. White girls cant have curves because then they would be called Fat!! 2. Black girls (usually) stand up for there self a little quicker than white girls do. (my opinion). White girls they usually walk away. Black girls are no better than whites. We are all equal!!!

Malibu
02-07-2006, 07:56 PM
If you are sick of all the race threads, just read them and don't resurrect them. Most of the threads you are choosing to post on are older.

Resurrecting them will only make others post on them and they'll be around for a lot longer.

Star_bare_elegance
02-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Who easily makes more money in clubs "fat" or not? It is soo right that no one is better.... I just think some folks get treated better and have more clubs that cater to them and their clients. Race factors in strip clubs is a subject that should be addressed until properly resolved IMO. :-)

cinammonkisses
02-08-2006, 09:26 AM
Race factors in strip clubs is a subject that should be addressed until properly resolved IMO. :-)

Yes I agree. But considering that this is a male dominated business I doubt that it will change some minds. I dunno, I think for alot of strip clubs they factor in what the customer will want? Hey, if the GM doesn't have a thing for black or asian women, "WHY WOULD" any other man find them hot ::)

I think you won't get more variety into the strip clubs until you start having customers grow some balls and ask for us. Hell, don't mention "hey why don't you guys have any __________________ women working here?" to the waitress, or some dancer. Hell why not go ask and speak to the manager yourself and just TELL THE MAN WHAT YA WANT!! >:(

melanie916
02-09-2006, 11:08 AM
Speaking as a white girl, I think prejudice is alive and well in strip .
there is no question that it is still alive, and any one who thinks other wise need a reality check.

kiarah
03-22-2006, 07:13 AM
I manage a Lap Dance Club in Greece and when I do my Auditions for girls I always make sure that I have no girl the same ie: i will have 2 girls with brown hair, but totally different shoet hair big boobs long hair big bum small boobs etc and i will take on any girl no matter what ethnic back ground! as men LOVE women and im telling you now he does NOT always want the tall blond ect.

I always used to get asked if we have any Greek, thia and black girls so i took them on as in Greece their in demand, we give what our customer wants and thats a varity of different girls x

cinammonkisses
03-22-2006, 07:42 AM
Coloured skinned dancers do well in Greece? I thought it was a brothel down there? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

kiarah
03-22-2006, 09:33 AM
Not too sure about other clubs!

But Our club is a NO Touching Policy always has been and always will be, and the only customers we let through the doors are English.

And yes I had 2 black dancers last year and they made thier fair share. X

tenshigirl25
03-22-2006, 05:46 PM
I have seen so many racial threads!! LORD PLEASE dont let me see no more!! I am getting mad!! I can not believe all of this. White girls are no better than black girls. The only difference is 2 things. 1. Black girls are more curvy than white girls and they look good with it. White girls cant have curves because then they would be called Fat!! 2. Black girls (usually) stand up for there self a little quicker than white girls do. (my opinion). White girls they usually walk away. Black girls are no better than whites. We are all equal!!!

thats not true either..because i am very curvy and it looks good on me..even tho i do get the occasional ass and legs comments from white girls...girls that are into th J Lo body and men like it...in fact i think all men prefer curves over thin..im surprised black women arent the number 1 in this industry..your post has goodintentions but i think its also racist what u just said..

aussiepunkshocker
03-23-2006, 05:34 AM
I have seen so many racial threads!! LORD PLEASE dont let me see no more!! I am getting mad!! I can not believe all of this. White girls are no better than black girls. The only difference is 2 things. 1. Black girls are more curvy than white girls and they look good with it. White girls cant have curves because then they would be called Fat!! 2. Black girls (usually) stand up for there self a little quicker than white girls do. (my opinion). White girls they usually walk away. Black girls are no better than whites. We are all equal!!!

I think everyone here wishes there were no race threads, but because we would like race not to be an issue for dancers not because we don't want people to talk about it. I think it's a little bit unreasonable to be mad about race threads being posted - you don't have to read them or join in with the discussion afterall! The threads will stop when there's equality I supose /:O

Nyx
03-23-2006, 06:35 AM
As long as your skin is not green you'll do okay.

miabella
03-23-2006, 07:17 AM
not true, nyx.

cinammonkisses
03-23-2006, 10:35 AM
As long as your skin is not green you'll do okay.

Ha, it's cute that you think that way babe...but I agree with Mia, that is just not true. No offense to you Nyx, but it's really sad that there are people who really believe this sh__.

Do you know how many SC patrons, SW members (male and female) members have seen me and said "Dam Cin you're hot, I bet you could work at my club" Ha, yea right...I've tried it, and I don't like hearing, "sorry you're not the look we're looking for :-[, but try our sister club" Which 9x outta 10 is some ghetto ass hole in the wall.

All people have preferences, and those preferences are OPENLY shown in the stripclub. IMO as women of color we have to be 10x better as our white counterparts. Don't believe me...hell go into a club as ask how many Black, latin, asian, indian dancers they have? If they have to many, they start turning the rest down before they even walk through the door. But you can NEVER have to many blondes ::)

miabella
03-23-2006, 10:43 AM
heh, great example of that in a local houston club. was 85-90% blondes for ages, even though customers whined and whined for more dancers of any other type and of other ethnicities. but management took years to start working in more brunettes, latinas, black dancers, etc. YEARS. if skin color really didn't matter, i would have spent my dancing career working exclusively at the lowest contact club in houston making 500-1k every shift telling old guys how awesome they were. i regularly hear in fact from customers spending lots on me that i should be working at that very club and they are horrified that i cannot get hired there.

skin color does matter, and it does suck, and well, there you are.

PleasureVictim
03-23-2006, 06:00 PM
As long as your skin is not green you'll do okay.

You know what- you just may be right. But most women who get into stripping want to do better than 'okay'. :)

Nyx
03-24-2006, 07:30 AM
You know what- you just may be right. But most women who get into stripping want to do better than 'okay'. :)

Yeah most women want to look like Halley Berry. So if you don't have to looks you have to settle with okay. that's life.

If Halley Berry she would have men kissing her ass ,feet and all.

Nyx
03-24-2006, 07:40 AM
not true, nyx.i will not mislead you. It is sadly true that racism plays a part in cultures. However since you are a dancer you are luckier than most women in the sense that it takes an above average women to dance.
We have to live with racism, ingnorance, and stupid dumb people but we don't have to dwell on the negative. It's good to recognize but until we get rid of the stigmatisim that come from American culture we just have to endure.



There's a saying;"I complained because I had no shoes than I saw a man who had not feet."

Star_bare_elegance
03-24-2006, 08:22 AM
I wonder how many of the posters in this thread are women of color? Most responses so far tell who is or isn't..... right away.

Optimist
03-24-2006, 11:41 AM
Do you know how many SC patrons, SW members (male and female) members have seen me and said "Dam Cin you're hot, I bet you could work at my club" Ha, yea right...I've tried it, and I don't like hearing, "sorry you're not the look we're looking for :-[, but try our sister club" Which 9x outta 10 is some ghetto ass hole in the wall.

But you can NEVER have to many blondes ::)
I think the problem for non-white dancers is the management not the customers. So, I agree the guys can get fired up about you but it's little guarantee of a job. Corporations taking over areas that had independent clubs have created a Stepford Dancer system. Some clubs won't hire girls without implants because it's not a 'standard' dancer look. They won't hire any short haired dancers because it's not a 'standard' look. The blonde girls bitch because they think there's too many of them. So even the standard girls are not happy. The former top club in the nation, the Gold Club in Atlanta, hired ALL looks and it made them appealing to ALL custys. Managers should lighten up already.

PaigeDWinter
03-24-2006, 05:34 PM
Oh for Frith's sake... not this gaining life again.


Hey can I vent too?


Can I bitch cause I'm not tan enough and not black and so I dont make as much money? Cause it's damn true. Oops. Opposite of the spectrum. Where I am this is how it goes. Tan white girls and black girls earn more. *shrugs*


Can we rebury this?

cinammonkisses
03-25-2006, 03:21 AM
Can we rebury this?

Me personally, I'd rather we didn't. I like talkin with other women of color about my experiences as a woman of colour. Sure, I love talking to the rest of my SW sisters about different things, but some of the things (read bs) I go through majority of you will never have to go through. I guess I am able to vent more to people who actually understand me, and what I've gone through.

PaigeDWinter
03-25-2006, 06:44 AM
I dunno. I just guess I feel that it isnt TOO much different than

I Make Less Than The 100lb Girls threads

or the

I Make Less Than The Blonde Girls Threads

or the

I Make Less If I Dont Dance To Rap At (insert name) Club threads

or the

I make Less With Small Boobs threads.

But they tend to a) not get revived as often and b) not get some really venemous posts.

I really dont see it HELPING what is going on much. That's another thing that bugs me.

IMHO? Any certain TYPE of girl based on physical attributes that dont get hired as much or make as much or get treated with as much respect is a form or racism. We get our looks from our heritages, after all. I've seen clubs that JUST hire blondes. Not even caucasian brunettes. This doesnt seem to strike up as much anger as threads such as the ones we are in right now. I know damn well that I make less because I am not blonde and tan OR black. If I made that into a thread, chances are it wouldnt get close to the # of responses or views, nor the revivals.

I just guess I think all profiling, as I like to call it, sucks when it's done. I swear, seeing a club that could be an Aryan Nation poster child scares me. But beating a dead horse thread isnt going to solve anything for anyone involved.

cinammonkisses
03-25-2006, 09:05 AM
I dunno. I just guess I feel that it isnt TOO much different than

I Make Less Than The 100lb Girls threads

or the

I Make Less Than The Blonde Girls Threads

or the

I Make Less If I Dont Dance To Rap At (insert name) Club threads

or the

I make Less With Small Boobs threads.


Trust me, this is a whole lot BIGGER than some I make less than ________ girls threads.