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jordankeywest
10-10-2003, 11:05 AM
i know im from cocoa beach. lived in orlando for a while. im a beach girl. my goal is to have a home here were the 3rd most expensive re in us. thats why im in such a panic. if i dont get in soon i may never. i spent most of my years here living on a boat so it really just was never an intwerest to me before i just figurede id build a beautiful housebot for 100k. but thats not really an asset for your future and there making it harder and harder to lineaboard here.

chrissie
10-11-2003, 03:30 AM
Do you live on a boat now, or rent a house or apartment?

jordankeywest
10-11-2003, 11:05 AM
im renting a 550 sq ft apt for 1500/month icould buy it for 300k cuz ive been here 1 year

jordankeywest
10-11-2003, 11:14 AM
i think were getting off topic. just pm me

Sitara7817
11-05-2003, 02:26 PM
he everyone, im back. . . i was just focusinging on other things. . .

Sitara7817
11-05-2003, 02:27 PM
oops. . . i did not spell it right

Ebony
11-05-2003, 03:22 PM
Hey Sitara I'm coming to Penthouse tomorrow night to check things out. I don't want to audition buy some of my friends wanted to see what it was all about. Hope to see you there.

seraya
11-05-2003, 03:33 PM
Hi there Sitara I'm a newbie....

I was going to PM you earlier but then i came across your post. Ebony implied that you would be able to advise me on clubs to work in NY. I was born and raised here in London but i will be moving to NY next year.

Like yourself I am a very attractive black female and definitely interested in trying out your club.. It sounds great! So i would be really gratful for more info.

By the way you really are gorgeous ;)

Seraya x

seraya
11-05-2003, 03:34 PM
When you do Ebony please let us Know what you thought.

Ebony
11-08-2003, 07:34 AM
I went Thursday night and had a good time. Beautiful club. The set up is different compared to NJ clubs. They have a sunken area with seats for the gents. One main stage (no poles just two banisters) and a fan. They also had two smaller 'stages' each with a pole.

In my opinion even though the contact on the main floor isn't crazy (though I saw some light contact) every girl I mean every girl was getting dances. Compared to other clubs in NYC where 20 girls are sitting at the bar and another 20 are in the dressing room and only 10 are giving dances at this places I saw EVERYONE (black white, latino ,blond, brunette) getting dances. Guys were getting multiple dances and dances from many different girls.

Also I like the fact they have a decent number of beautiful black women. I saw one Asian girl and a few Latino girls as well. Everyone looked as if they loved working there. And the atmosphere was fun contrary to what others say.

By the way Sitara you are absolutly beautiful and you had the most beautiful dress on that night. The girl I was with is a houseomom and she was commenting on it.

I hope to audition there soon. Sitara what are the auditioning requirements? I forgot to ask.

seraya
11-08-2003, 09:04 AM
thanx for letting us know Ebony i will definitely check out this club when i come to NY. :D

jennymodel
11-08-2003, 05:03 PM
Syra is gorgeous! Wow, now that is a 10 :)

11-10-2003, 04:59 AM
Hi girls, does anyone know if they are hiring cocktail waitresses anymore??

Thanks

juliet
11-10-2003, 06:44 AM
I've been working there and it is an absolutely spectacular club. Relatively low tip-outs by Manhattan standards ($160), amazingly opulent decor, white-collar clientele, 5-star restaurant,etc., etc.

Most girls are in tremendous shape, though they do not necessarily have beautiful faces. Auditions are held Tues-Sat from 8-9 pm.If you have any other questions, feel free to ask!

Ebony
11-10-2003, 07:29 AM
Juliet I agree. All of the girls were extremely fit. No cellulite no guts. But some of them were 'plain Jane's' so to speak. Everyone had nice tasteful implants. Not like here in NJ were everyone has over filled hard looking implants. I would love to work there but by their standards I would probably have to loose about 15lbs. And I love the fact that there is no house fee Sun and Mon. I have never heard of a club that does that in NYC. I have one question, what are the working shifts there? 4p - 11p and 9p -4a?

juliet
11-10-2003, 07:55 AM
Ebony,

The shifts are 6pm -2am or 8pm-4am. Either way, it's pretty grueling and exhausting!

LoveSexMoney
11-11-2003, 10:29 AM
based upon the posts about girls being very fit here...do you think I could slide into PEC? I am wasting my time and my life in my current location. I'm ready for a change and feel pretty much over Vegas too. tia.

DancerNY
11-11-2003, 11:07 AM
I went to Penthouse about a month ago just to check it out. Now, I'm 19, and had a fake ID handy (hehe), but they didn't even check it probably because my bf was coming from work and was wearing a suit (he is 24). OK GREAT!
Like everyone said it is abosolutely gorgeous inside. Unfortunately Syra wasn't working that night, otherwise I would say HI :)
I liked it so much that I decided to audition, but when I called to ask, they said you have to be 21 to work because "they don't want to worry about underage girls drinking" Oh well, I went to Privilege as well (twice) and loved it there too. The age minimum is 18 to dance at Privilege so I might go there if I decide to work in the city during Christmas.

june_in_tahoe
11-12-2003, 06:24 AM
I have never gone over to the club to audition-but two of my friends went over. It was in Aug. and they were not hired but told to come back in the fall. Thier faces are beautiful but thier boobs were natural. So do you think that if your not fake don't waste your time?

chrissy
11-12-2003, 08:14 AM
Saphire I looked at your pics and I think you would get hired- you definatly fit their criteria

red
11-12-2003, 08:33 AM
hey girl....i want to ask you questions about the penthouse... hit me up on aim.. chic176

LoveSexMoney
11-12-2003, 08:48 AM
thanx for the response chrissy. Now I just need to plan a trip. I'm trying to remember prior posts I've read about working in the city...summer is not great, no? Prob some time between winter and spring...

The_Kid
11-12-2003, 09:34 AM
Sapphire- Based on your pics. alone I'm sure you'd get hired at PEC and many other top grade NYC-Tri-State clubs. Summer does tend to be slower than Fall & Spring. You might also think about working South Florida as their busy season is coming on. Tampa
is very good in March when the Yankees are in Spring
Training. Good luck!

carmenNYC
11-12-2003, 11:56 AM
Shhhhit. do you REALLY have to be 21 to work here???

chrissy
11-13-2003, 06:40 AM
My AIM does not work

Sitara7817
11-13-2003, 07:39 AM
ok. . . . im "sitara" on this board and in philly, buy im Syra in NY. . . ebony. . . your a pretty girl but they would want you to loose about 115lbs. . . breast implants dont really matter as long as you have nice boobies. . . i dont have any but i have "perfect" breasts. . . Ebony. . . i make gowns, the one you saw me in i made. . if you would like anything just let me know. . . you do have to be 21. . but if your really pretty and you know someone you can talk to gary. . but dont abouse it. . if you come DO NOT DRINK. . . Gary can be an asshole. . . Its so good i dont even work in philly anymore. . just NY. . . the shifts?. . . lol. . . if your liked you can bend almost any rule. . .this is the best earning potential. . better then vegas. . . i love this club. . . ultra upscale! with white-collar money. . . and im serious! i broke my record 2x's over. . . but foreign blondes have it the best grabing a room. . . any other q's?

Sitara7817
11-13-2003, 07:40 AM
oops. . . i just saw my post. . . i mean 15 lbs. . . . lighten your hair, and wear white dresses. . . sorry i wrote it wrong. . . i type to fast, , ,

Ebony
11-13-2003, 09:49 AM
Yeah girl I was like damn I'm not that fat!! I weigh 140lbs not and I wanted to get down to about 130 - 125 lbs. before I started there. I would love for you to make a gown for me. I dance at a gown club in NJ. I PM you.

Ebony
11-16-2003, 04:30 PM
Sitara I would definitely like you to make a gown for me when you have time. I will PM you. Thanks.

Sitara7817
11-17-2003, 07:17 PM
i wish i had pics but you saw me in one of mine

Ebony
11-17-2003, 07:43 PM
You probably don't even remeber which one I mean ;D. I don't know if I can explain it. It is a halter style with the sides exposed. The top was this beautiful silver blue liquid looking sequine. The bottom looked like a silver/blue stretch satin. Does that refresh you memory?

GlorvinaC1
11-19-2003, 06:27 AM
After being declined at Scores last night (I'm a bi-racial dancer from NYC), I went to PEC. I wasn't even invited to enter the club, the bouncer said they weren't auditioning at the moment. They had too many girls. He asked me to come back next week. Probably, I arrived there too late- 11PM.
I've worked at privilege, sin city, lace/stilletos, Elan's of CT. I feel like my eethnicity holds me back alot. Can you give me some tips on the audition process at PEC? WHen the house mom at Scores says to come back 'next month' what does that mean? Scores hired the blonde i came in with, but asked me to come back next month for their new club opening downtown...

UPSET....

Ebony
11-19-2003, 06:32 AM
Damn girl I feel for you. I have gotten pretty much the same thing. I went to Privelege awhile ago and one of the A.A girls told me they would probably not hire me because they met their 'quota'. The only thing I can say is keep trying different clubs Manhattan's Gent, Scores West, VIP, Flash.. Just keep going until you get hired. If your pretty you may if you are lucky meet a manager who is not biased. I went there and there were a few black girls there including one who is on this site.

michele
11-19-2003, 10:09 AM
Glorvina,when did you work at elans?

Little_Pea
11-19-2003, 01:00 PM
Try Lace in Times SQ they have alot of biracial girls

mylilnip
11-22-2003, 01:42 AM
Hi, I just think maybe timing is off. You know, you might try Trumpps. It's in Michigan at 8 mile and Lahser.
ethnicity isn't a bad thing. so try not to think that you are being shunned for it. It's surprising how many men like to see ethnic woman on stage. just keep trying and especially during hockey season, that's a great time to get into the business.

Melonie
11-22-2003, 02:58 AM
There is an unbendable business principle which states that the "customer is always right". What has probably happened in PEC's case is that they have now been open for several months, and have had a chance to evaluate the financial statistics on the club's customers and dancers.

They have probably discovered that operating a very high priced upscale club in Manhattan tends to attract mostly very successful and well-to-do guys - most of which are white. While a good number of these well-to-do guys enjoy spending time and money on ethnic dancers, undoubtedly many of them do prefer spending time and money on white dancers. This results in some certain ideal financial "balance" point in regard to the number of ethnic dancers versus white dancers which the club hires versus the personal preferences of the customers the club attracts. Other clubs who have been in business for a while have already done a similar analysis.

If the club has too many white dancers compared to this ideal financial "balance" point, the customers aren't provided with the variety they want - a symptom of which would be that every ethnic dancer working at the club was constantly 'busy' with customers and making money hand over fist, but that white dancers were not as 'busy' and had to compete hard for customer attention and money.

On the other hand, if the club has too many ethnic dancers compared the ideal financial "balance" point, customers aren't provided with enough white girls BASED ON well-to-do CUSTOMER PREFERENCES. If this is the case the symptom would be that the white dancers in the club are constantly 'busy', but that the ethnic dancers are not as 'busy' and are having to work hard to attract customer attention and money.

If these upscale expensive clubs have analyzed their customer base and their dancer earnings/popularity, and has come to the conclusion that the club has a higher percentage of ethnic girls than the ideal financial "balance" point which is solely determined by the club's customer base, then it would make perfect sense that the club might refuse to hire an ethnic girl but hire a white girl on the same night.

In fairness, you really can't blame this on racial prejudice on the part of the club. What you CAN blame it on is a lack of diversity in the well-to-do club customers who patronize expensive upscale clubs. In a city like Atlanta, the percentage of well-to-do business guys who are black, asian etc. is much more in line with the percentage of blacks, asians etc. in Atlanta's population, thus the ideal financial "balance" point in Atlanta clubs includes a much higher number of ethnic dancers. However, in a city like New York, the percentage of well-to-do business guys who are black, asian etc. is a lot lower than the percentage of blacks, asians etc. in New York's population, and with it the percentage of ethnic dancers required to achieve this ideal financial "balance" point is going to be lower as well.

Considering that Penthouse has invested something like 7 million dollars to get this club open, and that other upscale clubs have made huge investments in their own clubs already, they're very interested in operating the club at the ideal financial "balance" point, such that every dancer working in the club will be 'busy', and that every customer who comes into the club will be able to find a girl he's happy to be spending money on - without having to "take a number" and wait for certain dancers busy with other customers to get free, while at the same time other girls are milling around the club that the customer and apparently other club customers are not as interested in spending money on.

This ideal financial "balance" point results in maximum earnings for the club and also results in maximum earnings for the dancers working in the club regardless of their ethnicity. This financial fact is the reason that certain clubs establish a certain percentage or 'quota' of ethnic dancers, not some personal preference of a racially biased club manager. Trust me that when a club costs 7 million dollars, policy decisions affecting club profitability are made in a corporate boardroom and not by some club manager, and that these decisions are based purely on profit margin.

sxydancer2000
11-23-2003, 02:23 PM
I have been working at Flashdancers and NY Dolls and I really need a change. The Russians have totally taken over and I am not all that comfortable anymore. Can anyone tell me how to get into Penthouse. I tried calling but didn't get anywhere.,

Ebony
11-23-2003, 04:04 PM
Melonie on one hand I can agree and understand many of you points. With many of these clubs it is all about profits. BUT I believe that it is a misconception that well to do white customers don't enjoy the company of a minority woman. Sitara works there and isn't having a problem. Also the night I worked there all of the minority women were doing quite well. Being a black woman in this business and working on the east coast I don't think that customers are as biased as those in other parts of the country. As I have said before I have never had a problem attracting customers and seem to do better when I work that many other girls I work with. Many customers have told me they love black women but many clubs don't have any (in NJ) and the ones that do are ghetto. I tell them about the misconception that club managers have and they always tell me they would rather a beautiful black dancer than a foreign one who can't even speak English (you have to live in NJ or NYC to understand). If a dancer is beautiful and has it all together it should not matter the race. But this is the world we live in. All I can do is make an impact on my customers and managers to let them see that black women make a good contribution to any club. We are not the sterotypes seen on television and in the media. We speak proper English, are intelligent, can converse about an array or topics, are professional, beautiful, polished and give a hell of a lapdance!

Malibu
11-23-2003, 10:36 PM
This is slighly off the topic but is the PEC always long gowns? Don't you girls ever wear fantasy outfits/short dresses and do you pole dance?

I would love to try the US, probably Vegas and NYC at some point so I'm trying to get clued up on some locations in advance.

Malibu
11-24-2003, 05:46 AM
Wow, they dont?!

That's a shame. I love shaking my thing on the stage (I practically live there sometimes!)! I don't know how those girls let off their excess energy!

Ebony
11-24-2003, 05:53 AM
At this club they have one main stage shaped sort of like a sea shell. There are two banister on either end of the stage and a fan that blows air in the front. No one was shaking anything. Just dancing real real slow and kind of posing. They have two small pedestal stages in the club with poles but they aren't made to do anything on.

seraya
11-24-2003, 06:08 AM
Wow!

I'm moving to NY next year so i also want to get clued up on the clubs..... i mean i knew the upscale clubs were gown clubs but no pole! :( that is news to me i had no idea!

So basically NY clubs are topless only, air dancing only, no pole, gown clubs.... am i right?

seraya
11-24-2003, 06:45 AM
Hi miss george i was wondering what you meant by 'shoe-regulations'?

Melonie
11-24-2003, 06:54 AM
BUT I believe that it is a misconception that well to do white customers don't enjoy the company of a minority woman. Sitara works there and isn't having a problem. Also the night I worked there all of the minority women were doing quite well. Being a black woman in this business and working on the east coast I don't think that customers are as biased as those in other parts of the country. As I have said before I have never had a problem attracting customers and seem to do better when I work that many other girls I work with. Many customers have told me they love black women but many clubs don't have any (in NJ) and the ones that do are ghetto. I tell them about the misconception that club managers have and they always tell me they would rather a beautiful black dancer than a foreign one who can't even speak English (you have to live in NJ or NYC to understand)

Ebony, I hear you and I agree with you. Lots of well to do white guys love to make a night of it with a black or asian dancer. My only point was that there is a finite limit to the number of black or asian or other ethnic dancers which the club customers will keep busy, and if the club exceeds that point it's not good financially for either the club or the ethnic dancers. From your own observations, it sounds like PEC has pretty well hit the balance point already - perhaps their reluctance to hire another black dancers was to avoid 'overbalancing' or for some other reason entirely.

I agree than NJ has some serious issues with ethnic dancers in clubs. However, in NJ many of the clubs are not corporate, they are individually owned and operated. If an independent club owner wants to make a stupid business decision to perpetuate his racial prejudices, unfortunately it's difficult to stop or change the owner's mind. Of course, lots of the nasty "inner city" club action in NJ cities like Newark and Paterson, which are mostly filled with ethnic dancers, has gotten lots of negative publicity. While it's not fair of a club owner to make assumptions about every black dancer because of the well known nasty action of some black dancers in these 'inner city' clubs, it IS something that rattles around in the back of the clubowners mind.

Ebony
11-24-2003, 08:59 AM
While it's not fair of a club owner to make assumptions about every black dancer because of the well known nasty action of some black dancers in these 'inner city' clubs, it IS something that rattles around in the back of the clubowners mind.

This is true but a great number of Russian and Brazilian dances basically use the clubs in NJ as their personal brothel. Dancers, owners, and customers are aware of this and they still get hired. One owner told me he had to break down the walls of the lapdance area because of this and this was a non-inner city gogo bar in the middle of the suburbs.

Kianna_Jayde
11-25-2003, 07:06 PM
Upscale NYC clubs never let girls wear fantasy outfits, though some let girls wear (tasteful) short dresses on weekends. Pole dancing is a definite no-no and most don't even have poles.

Oh my God, why?? ??? ??? I love to put on one of my outfits and do a theme show, and the pole, I'm a pro. I don't know.... :-X

Melonie
11-25-2003, 08:46 PM
Kianna, some NYC clubs do allow fantasy outfits and theme shows, but they only allow it to be done by travelling feature performers, who the clubs have hired through agents. Most of the upscale topless alcohol NYC clubs work on a "hostess" business model, which is about classy companionship. However, the nude clubs are more about stage performances and contact.

Melonie
11-25-2003, 08:56 PM
This is true but a great number of Russian and Brazilian dances basically use the clubs in NJ as their personal brothel. Dancers, owners, and customers are aware of this and they still get hired.

Oh, absolutely true. In point of fact there is absolutely no racial distinction among girls willing to provide extras. Basically the only difference is that the 'inner city' clubs with a high percentage of black dancers doing extras are more likely to be busted and publicized than the 'suburban' clubs with a high percentage of white and eastern european and south american dancers doing the same extras.

However, coming back to the topic of this thread, PEC and other 'corporate clubs' simply cannot afford to allow extras to occur on their premisis. They have way too much money invested and depend too heavily on a reputation as a bust-free safe place for well heeled "important" upscale customers to go to ever allow blatant activities inside their clubs which could result in a bust. Of course, they have no control of what happens outside the club after closing time LOL.

Kianna_Jayde
11-26-2003, 07:48 AM
Kianna, some NYC clubs do allow fantasy outfits and theme shows, but they only allow it to be done by travelling feature performers, who the clubs have hired through agents. Most of the upscale topless alcohol NYC clubs work on a "hostess" business model, which is about classy companionship. However, the nude clubs are more about stage performances and contact.

After January, I will be booked through Pure Talent Agency. But, for when I'm not featuring, I would still like to travel to different clubs, promoting and making my name known.