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Devastating Divyne
12-12-2003, 05:07 AM
I applaud Naomi for posting the answer to the question many people were looking for but too ashamed to ask for because of how many "negative" topics are quickly shot down on SW before they ever really get a chance to start. Anyway, this advice could be found anywhere on the internet and the fact that it is here is only of consequence to people who visit or find this board. I did an internet search and found that people have done studies on the coke diet in human and in animals.
Just because it was posted doesn't mean anyone has to use it. It's simply information, but information that some people will call harmful. Just because a number of you have had bad experiences with drugs doesn't mean that someone else doesn't have the right to information about them. They always say information is the first step which may be why so many are concerned b/c an issue in the shadows is now being brought to the forefront. My main point is this: the information is there for consumption whether or SW or anywhere else, don't kill the messenger.
I am also very glad that this thread has not been pulled b/c there seems to be a thing around here with people attempting to stifle less popular opinions and topics by either responding with such negative comments that people leave the board, change their screen name or just lurk and will not post. As far as drugs go, some people can take them or leave them and some take them and go harder. I know people who have been doing one drug for years and taking the same amount and never went out searching for a longer, better, stronger high. I also go to school with kids who get here and are so blowed out and have tried every drug searching for that high that they harass the hell out of the ADD and ADHD kids to sell them their Ritalin to snort because almost every other drug has lost its appeal or they take drugs in cocktail form because one type is no longer enough. THis is the same drug spectrum but I presented the two different ends, the casual user and the addict. People that can casually and socially use a drug over a long period of time are different from average, but there is a marked difference between each and every person's personality and tolerance. All of these things will factor into whether this advice will hurt or harm someone. If advice can make people do things, was anyone paying attention to all the don't do drug thingys at their school and coming from their parents and a multitude of sources? SO basically it comes down to a person making a choice. If you heard drugs were bad at home, at school, on TV and from others why did you try it? Personal choice, environment, other factors, curiousity and personal experimentation- right? Same thing with this advice.
I would also like to point out that I am not for it or against it. I am simply for the fact that its a topic that is worthy of discussion and thought b/c I love things, ideas, issues that foster thought and consideration. I would also like to thank all of the members who shared all of their personal experiences. It seems like to me this is some of the most honesty that has been present in a long time on a serious subject. Whenever something taboo comes up there is always a long line of the well I don't do thats in response or responses that condemn the original subject. This is a personal thank you to everyone who has participated in this discussion. Each and every response has a right to be heard whether in agreement or disagreement.
slvrgloss
12-12-2003, 02:48 PM
Wow, I really don't know what to say after reading all of this. I lost my best friend 2 years ago when she started doing meth to lose a "few" pounds and would never recommend it. I also gained a lot of weight after a bad relationship and can relate to those who feel desperate to lose the pounds though. I went on a 1,200 calorie diet, went to the gym for 2 hours everyday and lost it quickly. You'll have better luck finding strength in friends than an addictive drug.
For those of you who think overweight people get laughed at in the gym:
I have never once seen anybody pointing and snickering. Do you know what I think when I see overweight people on the treadmill? They motivate me. I think "good for her". I know it must be hard for someone who is overweight or obese to go to the gym, and if they are doing it, then I can do it. As far as the gym rat guys go, they are too interested in themselves to pay attention to anyone else.
The gym is there for you to get in shape. You don't have to lose weight to go to the gym.
MeganS
12-12-2003, 04:39 PM
Very true. People need to realize the gym is there for that exact purpose! Get into shape! I'd be more embarassed to sit down at a restaurant to eat being tubby, rather than showing up at a gym with the motivation to do something about it! Sorry, little off the subject, but I always seem to agree with Kobi on these things! Karma point there!
cinammonkisses
12-13-2003, 02:14 PM
I remember a few days ago when you first brought this topic up. I couldnt' believe what I had just read. How can you ENCOURAGE drug use?! Especially something so serious as Meth?
There are so many people in this world who are dying to be thin. Why? Who said skinny was beautiful?
I've known a few people in my life who've done coke and crack, and heroin. You just dont know how you look to the people you love when you start taking drugs like this.
Your body is deteriorating. Your teeth are rotting, getting stained. Your eyes are sucken and glassy. What was once a beautiful, youthful appearance is now ugly, grey and shallow. You are killing yourself. Mentally, spiritually, and physically! I've known alot of people who get sucked up into this trap. I've never heard of people doing Meth or Crank or whatever to lose weight ( how fucking shallow). But I have heard them say they turn to harder drugs because they feel there is nothing left for them. Obviously people who turn to drugs like these dont love themselves. You need to work on those issues. You need to love yourself and become your own best friend.
cinammonkisses
12-13-2003, 02:31 PM
plus when u weight 260 pounds it really donsent sound that bad considering the amount of shit you have to put up with when ur fat and having to go to the gym and run ur tubby ass on a treadmill infront of ppl 3 times smaller than u. so i would rather starve my self than run my flab in the gym and get looked at funny. think of it in someone elses shoes
Ok, I've known plenty of people in those shoes. I've never been 260lbs but I have been 200lb. The look that people in the gym will give you is not a "funny" look, but a look of encouragement. They see that you are there for a reason, for a purpose. More than likely they will want to help. Not everyone who goes to the gym was born with that body..they worked on it. And more people than you think that are in that gym were probably just as big, if not bigger. It just takes determination and focus.
Juliette_deSade
12-13-2003, 02:33 PM
AAArd-
Naomi, I know you were referring to me because I had the post about the tweaker diet that I was on a couple of years ago. Ok first hand I'll tell you.
Have any of you ever been awake for 9 days straight? Do you know what meth does to your head? Here's this memory of my in Montrose at 6 in the morning gritting my teeth. Can't eat to save my life. I am looking at a burger, puzzled at what I am supposed to do with it. Is the burger talking to me? I am getting the mumbles, as they call it. I hear voices that aren't there.
So I am at my friends house on day 8. I think the upstairs neighbors are undercover trying to bust me. I am convinced that there is a voice outside of the window saying. "You are under arrest for possesion of a narcotic! Come out with your hands up." I end up underneath the table clutching a kitchen knife. The friends kick me out, and on the way home I thing every single car has cop lights on the top. Paranoia will destroy ya. Ever heard that one?
My skin is yellow. I have sores all over my mouth. My nose is red. Bob Parker taught me how to shoot up.
On the plus side I am skinny as hell. In all those days I had not eaten a thing. I hope no one I know sees me. I sink into depression.
But hey, it was fun in the beginning. The first day. I am a non-using addict and this is my story. I have many stories. This is the reality. I admire your posts Naomi, but I don't think this is a good idea.
JDS
Seven
12-13-2003, 03:19 PM
I know from experience it's hard reading posts or hearing people say "go to the gym twice a day" etc... but the reality is that IS the best way to get the weight off and KEEP it off. I too went thru this process. Eliptical(sp?) machine in the am for an hour, step aerobics for an hour in the pm. In just two weeks I was where I wanted to be. Big deal right :) Well here's a tip that kept ME motivated.
Emerse yourself in that lifestyle (even just temporarily), by reading and just flipping thru the fitness mags. You make it a mind game "I can look like that, I will look like that, I want to be that" those mags become your lifeline. At the gym read all the articles, even if you aren't interested in them.. you want to BEcome that type of person... just temporarily. To me this approach was more valuable that ppl saying "you can do it, go for it..." Get competitive with the girls in the mags.
Hope that is some healthy insight... good luck!
Esmerelda
12-13-2003, 09:51 PM
Amen to everything you said, Divyne! I gave you some karma points for your response. At least now we are discussing it instead of pretending that shit like this doesn't go on.
And, too, Naomi wasn't posting this as an advocate for EVERYbody and their uncle to start using meth -- she was posting this to share her experience, what she did to lose weight and start working. There's no shame in that, especially when it promotes good conversation, debate, personal experiences, and information from this whole community.
If this thread would have gotten pulled, I for one would have been very upset.
big_daddy
12-13-2003, 11:40 PM
Do you know what I think when I see overweight people on the treadmill? They motivate me. I think "good for her". I know it must be hard for someone who is overweight or obese to go to the gym, and if they are doing it, then I can do it. As far as the gym rat guys go, they are too interested in themselves to pay attention to anyone else
The gym is there for you to get in shape. You don't have to lose weight to go to the gym.
Wow thank you kobi if someone like me can motivate you, that motivates me. Treadmill here I come! :D
Pamela
12-14-2003, 10:32 AM
I had my say, and left the thread alone.
The part of the message that made me feel sad was saying go "give it a try." That does sound to me, like saying i did it, it worked, and you too may have the same out come as i did. Just scarey, we have no idea who is on this board, age and desperate.
I thought it was bad advice, and still do. To me that is advice. > "give this some thought."
On another note, working at a hospital, i see these people at times, with security and PD holding them down, because once inside their bodies they really don't know how they will act out. Some become very violent as well.
My heart goes out to all of them who have died from trying this crap just ONCE. And those who got hooked from NOT knowing they had an addictive personality.
Pamela
tranquil_waters
12-14-2003, 10:59 AM
Ladies please don't use any drugs! I have seen so many good girls turn in to addicts and now they are skinny , boney even and will do anything for a bump. :blindfold:
montythegeek
12-14-2003, 11:00 AM
Absolutely Pamela!!
The only place there are lines painted on the floor that you can not cross are on sports field. You do not know, and are not in shape to recognize them if you could.
Naomi_Tx
12-14-2003, 07:17 PM
:thinking:
I'd like to thank those of you who, whether or not you agreed, felt that my suggestion shouldn't be censored. I haven't logged on for a few days because, the truth is, I'm not as ballsy, as was mentioned. I don't create topics for sure shock value, I simply haven't acquired the art of tact, for the sake of appeasing others and appearing perfect. I do however, despite what many of you and people I've encountered may believe, have feelings which do get hurt when someone doesn't like me. Perhaps, I'm too honest. You can call me whatever insulting name in the book; however there is one thing I never have nor ever will be accused of being... a sheep.
Edit: Removed the "meow, hiss, pfftt!"
cinammonkisses
12-14-2003, 07:27 PM
What's with all the attitude Naomi?! You just sat here and thanked everyone for posting, whether or not they agreed. And now you sit here and hate. We all gave our opinions. If you didnt' want your feelings to be possibly hurt, then why make such a post on such a topic? Everything we post in here is voluntary! It is our own opinion. So dont get mad when everyone isn't in agreeance of you and what you stand for. Get your panties out of a bunch and just move on lady... :soapbox:
seraya
12-14-2003, 07:31 PM
Oh Naomi.....
Pls don't feel that ppl here don't like you many of us said we will not judge you or flame you even though we ( some ) don't agree.
I don't agree with what you wrote and i don't think this bcos its about drugs bcos i already mentioned that it should be addressed, but bcos you was clearly giving advice and worse still advice which was incorrect ie. snorting not being addictive etc....
I hope you do not feel that you are not welcome here, we are all entitled to our voice opinions yours included.
Seraya~
winter2003
12-14-2003, 07:47 PM
Naomi-- I am glad you posted this for one main reason--We are all given brains for a reason, to make up our own minds about your story...here in the U.S. I think we give away power to others thru censorship and the omittence of things we as a society may find distasteful...i enjoy the fact people responded and are going to exercise personal judgement, the "freedom" we are supposed to enjoy in this country.
~I think because you were so blatenly genuine that is why i considered you "ballsy" (a good thing in my book)...it takes guts to post something you know may generate unpopular opinion.
And for those who think SHE is responsible for YOUR descision(meaning, if you read this/or anything for that matter) and do it...YOU do it...let's all just make up our own minds, and keep the blame at home.
Naomi_Tx
12-14-2003, 08:01 PM
Thank you Winter, I'm actually very impressed with your maturity. I too believe in taking full responsibility for our own actions. Nobody respects one who whines and complaines about what someone did to them.
I like this quote, thought you would too.
"Never grow a wishbone daughter, where your backbone ought to be." ~
Clementine Paddleford
Sereya, obviously this whole freedom of speech right isn't limited to America, thank you.
:queen:
carmenNYC
12-14-2003, 09:52 PM
oh come on....everyone chill out. we here on SW have the freedom of speech too, right? i'm actually glad naomi addressed this issue- it was bound to pop up. this is a weight loss method that lots of dancers use. i really dont think that anyone has the authority to "pull" a thread, except Pryce, and i'm glad this thread stayed. if it was so corruptive then it would have been pulled already. yeah, this is a touchy topic but i feel it needed to be addressed....just b/c it's taboo and jaw-dropping, it needed to be posted- not every topic is gonna be peachy cream...
Juliette_deSade
12-14-2003, 09:59 PM
It suddenly got quite off topic.
Bridgette
12-15-2003, 05:41 AM
I agree this is something that should be addressed, for people to discuss and get others' opinions and experience stories on. It is long overdue. But I also believe the WAY it was addressed was pretty inappropriate - I don't think advising people to use drugs for weight loss, or any reason, is a good idea. It is well known that people who want/need to lose weight will resort to lots of desperate, unhealthy measures hoping to attain that 'ideal', and get sucked up in all sorts of nightmarish problems because of it. Drugs, anorexia, bulemia, laxatives, etc etc etc. IMO, telling someone with a weight problem that drugs may be the answer is not too far from handing a depressed person a gun with a single bullet in the chamber. Yeah, they might pull the trigger and be fine, then again maybe not. Or they might keep pulling the trigger until disaster strikes. Or they might get so freaked out from nerves that they are never 'right' again.
Yes we all have the freedom of speech, or at least *should have, and we are all ultimately responsible for our own actions. Alot of dancers use the speed diet, perhaps many of them use it and get into problems as a result of this very thing - taking the advice of a concerned citizen who tells them about it and how to get started. I have to wonder if Naomi would have considered or tried such a thing if she hadn't been advised to by that other dancer, and if she also hadn't been desperate as she stated. According to her story, quite possibly not. I wonder how many girls, desperate or not, will read this and try it, who might otherwise have never even considered it - and how many of those will wind up getting way more than they bargained for. Face it, most people get started on drugs in the first place at the suggestion of someone else who's doing it. ALL of our actions have consequences, regardless of how seemingly indirect or whom they affect. Each person is ultimately responsible for their own actions, but does that mean someone should suggest they do something very dangerous? I think not.
Now if I'm a goody goody because of this, so be it.
Naomi: This is not a personal slam. Just my opinion on the topic at hand.
blackbeauty
12-15-2003, 09:45 AM
I didn't want to get involved in this thread, but I just have a few things to say. Ladies, what is going on, we go through enough shit with other women at work, why are we fighting? I come here for support, encouragement, and to chat with fellow dancers in a loving environment, and I think a lot of other girls do too. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, if you don't agree, fine, but please respect that everyone is entitled to say what they want. Ladies, please stop the drama, it's childish! That's how I feel. We get enough bull from people outside of our jobs, lets just be supportive and tolerant. Love ya ladies! :-*
Shayden
12-15-2003, 10:19 AM
I just wanted to say, and I may be wrong for saying, but I'm scared for you Naomi and for the other girls who may try this diet. Myself along with Kobi, Juliette, and a few others know what it's like to see the bad side of this drug and the line is very thin and when you do overstep the boundaries you won't even know it. I know what's it's like to see the Meth Monsters (as they're called here) and sit and talk to people that are not there, I've heard the devil talk to me before telling me to do stuff. You just simply have no idea what's going on, your just lost and don't know it.
I'm not here to flame you Naomi, I've been where you've been but I don't think I could recommend this to anyone else. We were lucky, someone else may not as lucky.
I don't hate you and I do definitely support you in posting this thread, though I can't agree on someone else trying it. Don't let your feelings get hurt, not as many people hate you as you think they do.
Shayden :flirt:
Bridgette
12-15-2003, 10:25 AM
Naomi [snip] Don't let your feelings get hurt, not as many people hate you as you think they do.
My thoughts exactly.
LEIGH_LANDON
12-15-2003, 12:39 PM
wow.
what of the gals who's last words were....I thought I could handle it...?
In no way shape or form would I reccommend taking drugs to induce weight loss.
And the KIND of weight loss thats goes hand in hand with drug use is not condusive to overall bodily health. Muscle waste, imbalance of natural chemicals (mind and body) stress hormones etc - the list is endless, you NOT only lose weight you lose essential vitamins minerals and the like. I might add the brain cells that Pam mentions - this is not theory - it is FACT.
Anyone with any knowledge of what drug use can do to the mind and body would heartily agree. You dont just lose 'weight' my friends....
I am sad to think that this was Naomi's only option...that she had no friends or family to assist her in her weight crisis that she turned to drugs.
That she believed her weight would impair her earning potential at the only job she must think she could have done at the time - aka, stripping -
So many community funded outreach programs for abused women and such that again she believed her only options were drug use to lose weight to strip to get out of an abusive relationship - this is so sad!
Please if anyone wants to lose weight safely and quickly they are MANY methods above and beyond illegal drug abuse.
If you are in an abusive relationship THERE IS HELP to get out from under a situation whereas one may feel trapped.
And lastly if you WANT to strip but the weight holds you back then cocktail waitress while doing your weight loss program until you are up to snuff then get on it.
Its safe its healthy and the risks are NONE.
Health luck love and happiness - it belongs to everyone....
Peace.
Leigh
Kaiyla
12-15-2003, 02:54 PM
I think it is imperitive that we leave this thread up. I went through a whole spectrum of emotions while it. Weight is a very personal, touchy issue for me and when I began reading this thread, honestly, I had a feeling like "this could be for me." I have reached the highest weight I have ever been at; I am 5'0 and 120lbs. I naturally have a curvy hour-glass figure and natural boobs and in the "real world" I look and feel a healthy normal weight, but as a dancer, I think I am chubby, and have been told before that I could and should lose the extra weight I have gained. It is embarassing and it has driven me to drink at work to alleviate the anxiety I feel before I go onstage to be judged naked by everyone. It is embarassing to work with dozens of other women who are teeny tiny and I feel just so huge. Nobody knows what this feeling is like unless you have been there. Unless you have been there I dont think you understand the desperation to blend in with the other tiny little dancers. I think Naomi has been there and found something that works for her. Also as odd as it sounds, at 25 years old, I have no experience or much knowledge of drugs even though I am a dancer. I have smoked pot but it made me paranoid so I never did it again. I was reading Naomi's post and thinking "wow, a diet of this kind might really benefit someone like me." Yes it's dramatic but in my mind I was already figuring out how I could meet a "friend" of my own. I want this weight GONE. Nothing else has worked for me. Maybe this diet would be beneficial (in a 2 week span) for a person like me, but as I read all of the other posts, I just can't bring myself to do it. Some of those stories about people dying and surgeries and holes in noses and voices in heads scared the shit out of me. This is why I think this thread should be left up. If I were at my club and one of the dancers offered me meth and told me exactly what Naomi said about it, I would have taken it. It sounded so...harmless. But it was the people here who had different experiences that scared me to the opposite end of the spectrum -it's not for me. I know a lot of people are blasting Naomi, but since we are a very open, honest forum, we say what we feel. Perhaps Naomi feels this is right and it may be -for her, in some way. I dont know. But for me, I'd rather keep trying and trying to lose this weight without compensating my health, my looks, my family, maybe my life. I think this is a vitally important thread, espescially for women like myself who are desperate to lose weight and succeptable to making decisions concerning substances they know nothing about.
Katrine
12-15-2003, 03:07 PM
Last thing I am going to say regarding this subject about my personal experiences with drugs:
After the first time I did X, in 1997, I began grinding my teeth ALL the time, even in my sleep. Its so bad, even now, 6 years later, that I have taken 30 years off my teeth. They even made me a very expensive mouthgard that they give mental patients. I could not tolerate wearing it to sleep. There is a 100% correlation with me doing drugs, and the excacerbation of teeth grinding. It never ends....
Basically, only ONE experience with a drug that probably had speed in it is going to cause me pain and grief, and cost me thousands to replace my otherwise perfectly good teeth in 10 years.
Of course, knowing that, I've still occasionally done drugs recreationally. THUS, the excellent arguments that everyone puts forth are almost inevitably circular arguments because we are only human and bound to our desires, drawn to the illusion of happiness...
Good luck..meow! :(
cinammonkisses
12-15-2003, 03:45 PM
Kayla Nicole, I'm really happy that you decided that this form of weight loss wasnt' for you. It's all about research. Your right, I think that this post should stay up because it has peoples views and opinions from all sides of the spectrum. I mean who are we to :judge:
I think that with proper exercise, you can lose the weight that you want to. It may seem like a slow and tedious process, but trust me the results are so well worth it. Good luck on your weight loss. :hug:
seraya
12-15-2003, 04:06 PM
KAYLA NICOLE.....I am happy that you have not decided to try this "diet"...
I know how it feels to feel depressed about your weight... 18mnths ago i was very depressed, suicidal even bcos of the weight i had gained. I wouldn't go out with my friends bcos i felt ugly and fat so after a while they wouldn't even bother to ask me out. I also refused to have sex with the light on and felt uncomfortable having sex.
I spent hundreds of £'s on exercise equitment, diet pills, nutrition shakes, supplements, fitness magz/books, gym memberships etc..... damn i even got a job in a gym, where i had free access to the facilities!
Nothing seemed to work i tried many diet's even joined weight watcher's but nothing!
In the end it took becoming ill a few weeks after taking some new diet pills that this obsession stoped... I became so sick that i lost all the weight that i had wanted to lose in a month! and you know what i looked better when i was bigger!.... Being slim isn't necessarily attractive, slim AND HEALTHY is!
After my surgery i put most of the weight back on but i managed to lose it by joining a gym that included a personal trainer, which was very cheap bcos i decided not to bother with the fancy gyms and go to a hard core gym for men. I also went on a low carb low fat diet and wow it DID work.... but it takes time.
I would advice you to check out this thread http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=2914;vie w=all ..... personally i like kobi's regime.
Anyway i just wanted to share my experiences with you to let you know that some of us do understand and that there are other ways...
Good luck..... Seraya.
Kaiyla
12-16-2003, 09:43 AM
Cinnamon and Seraya, thank you for your support. I never realized how difficukt weight loss is, I always thought people exaggerated and were lazy, but when it was MY turn...it does suck! Seraya I am about to go check out the link from Kobi that you posted. Thanks you guys :hug:
Shayden
12-16-2003, 11:31 AM
I remember what I looked like when I was a tweaker, it was X-mas morning two years ago and I hadn't taken a shower in probably days, just boney and my skin was yellow and I had huge sores on my face and all over my arms and I was glassy eyed just sitting there looking at the tree. I once made a joke about it because around X-mas I pull out the couch so I can sleep next to the tree and I was doing this right, my mom had put $500 dollars in 50 dollar bills on the tree, they were there for a week and I was sleeping next to the tree and didn't even see them. I must have been spun out of my mind to not see $500 on the tree!
Now that I work out and am on a diet I look so much healthier now. My skin looks better and I don't have bags under my eyes and my body in general looks better. When you go the gym you get toned when you don't eat and do drugs your body is still flabby just skinnier.
Also you could get skinny but some people don't, a few of my friends are the biggest tweakers ever and they are overweight, why I couldn't tell you but some people don't lose weight on drugs. You could do the same thing just starving yourself, not healthy.
Plus the way your body feels when your on drugs, :zombie: I hate that feeling.
Shayden :flirt:
Veronika
12-16-2003, 01:36 PM
From a purely pragmatic standpoint, what are the chances that a person would keep off that weight that they lost so quickly? You starved yourself to get there so when you start eating again the weight is probably going to jump back on! Most people A) don't have the discipline to stop after"just two weeks" and, B) don't have the discipline to keep the weight off if they do stop.
For more negative reinforcement, see the movie "Spun". That (and Requiem for a Dream) should be required watching for anyone contemplating using meth.
alexislv
12-16-2003, 01:46 PM
Requiem for a dream is the most disturbing movie! I agree people should watch that movie..they will never do drugs or stop if they are on them...it is so realistic as to what happens to many people...
Naomi_Tx
12-16-2003, 02:06 PM
I've never seen Requiem for a Dream; but I did see Spun. I hadn't done any for like seven months, when I watched it; and it's funny because I watched it at a friends house whose BF is a tweeker (someone who does speed on a regular basis) and I kind of wanted to do some that night; but by the time he got there with the shit, the movie was at the part where the stripper got tied up and left... I decided to pass on it.
Anyway, there was no need to loose weight at that time; I never gained it back after I quit.
theres this girl at my gym that started a few months ago. She was about 300 pounds, but you know what? She had more people in that gym talking to her than I have had in the 3 years I have been there. She probably weighs 160 now, imagine that??? I saw her on the treadmill, elliptical, and lifting some weights to burn.... an amazing transformation and she IS an inspiration. why the hell would you even consider possibly addicting yourself to something? I said I would only smoke at work, and now I smoke daily. (ciggarettes that is) LOL
Its very hard to quit anything that you have become addicted to, and I can imagine it would be very hard to let go of something that makes you thin for fear of gaining weight.
Please be careful girls...there are healthier ways to lose weight.
Just my 2 cents
Another thing...people always seem to criticize people who do the Atkins diet saying its harmful, but I can say that atkins will definetely give you weight loss if you decide to slowwwwwwly add carbohydrates and eventually find what your body can take daily. Once that is figured out, you can live a low carb diet for the rest of your life and remain thin. I have lost 8 lbs in 2 weeks. Nice huh? :-*
Shayden
12-17-2003, 09:29 AM
Yeah I recommended watching Requiem for a Dream in a earlier post, Spun is also good to. I've watched both those for the first time in the last month and they were scary, made me cry. :scared:
Shayden :flirt:
chrissy
12-17-2003, 12:25 PM
Wow, I actually lost a couple brain cells reading this suggestion that I will never get back. How about this- get off your lazy ass and go to the gym and put down the potayo chips. Its lot easier than finding and geting addicted to drugs.
cinammonkisses
12-17-2003, 03:39 PM
Wow, I actually lost a couple brain cells reading this suggestion that I will never get back. How about this- get off your lazy ass and go to the gym and put down the potayo chips. Its lot easier than finding and geting addicted to drugs.
Hey Chrissy, as much as I want to say I agree with you, I really can't. It's just not that easy for people to find that motivation. Sometimes just the thought of "getting off their lazy ass and going to the gym" seems like a lost cause.
Now I'm not saying that I agree with the forums topic ( shoot, I have a few replies in here voicing my opposition) but everyone has their own reasons for why they want to lose weight. Some people just need that extra push, that motivation. And telling someone to get off their lazy ass wont get them on that tredmill any faster.
And telling someone to get off their lazy ass wont get them on that tredmill any faster.
Seriously, if someone said that to me, I think I'd want to grab another bag of chips.
SusanV
12-18-2003, 12:40 AM
theres this girl at my gym that started a few months ago. She was about 300 pounds, but you know what? <snip> She probably weighs 160 now, imagine that???
There's gotta be a typo in there somewhere.
Shayden
12-18-2003, 10:28 AM
Susan's right, the healthiest weight anyone can lose in a week is supposed to be 2 lbs, unless she was doing something on the side it would take a lot longer than a few months to get down from 300 to 160.
Shayden :flirt:
seraya
12-18-2003, 11:08 AM
Susan's right, the healthiest weight anyone can lose in a week is supposed to be 2 lbs, unless she was doing something on the side it would take a lot longer than a few months to get down from 300 to 160.
Shayden :flirt:
Yea but bigger usually lose a LOT of weight in the first few months and then it comes off gradually from then on.
LEIGH_LANDON
12-18-2003, 06:54 PM
I think the point was her weight came off quickly and an exaggeration was used to further highlight the point of that particular method (work!) of losing weight -
thats what I took it as - yenno?
chrissy
12-19-2003, 11:26 AM
And telling someone to get off their lazy ass wont get them on that tredmill any faster.
Seriously, if someone said that to me, I think I'd want to grab another bag of chips.
:laughing: Kobi your in great shape so you have nothing to worry about. I mean for someone like Niomi who said that they gained so much weight that they were embarressed to be naked at work. I think the thought of being naked for people on stage should be somewhat of a motivation especially if your feeling awkweard about your weight. Dont get me wrong im not a gym freak myself but if i gain a few pounds (like now from the holidays-uuggghh) I will go to the gym for a week to get it off.
cinammonkisses
12-19-2003, 07:06 PM
Was that even necessary...Sheesh...It seems like some people are straying from the subject once again. I really enjoy this topic and I dont think that we should be "pointing" out anyone in here.
Good grief, if you got beef, use the PM..that's what they are there for? :withstupid:
chrissy
12-20-2003, 02:32 AM
:laughing: Kobi your in great shape so you have nothing to worry about. I mean for someone like Niomi who said that they gained so much weight that they were embarressed to be naked at work. I think the thought of being naked for people on stage should be somewhat of a motivation especially if your feeling awkweard about your weight. Dont get me wrong im not a gym freak myself but if i gain a few pounds (like now from the holidays-uuggghh) I will go to the gym for a week to get it off.
Im sorry if I came off agrresive - I dont mean to insult you but I dont think its right to pull people into the 'drug world' Im no angel and it can be a nasty place. Drugs are addictive and lead you down the wrong path. I do not judge you for doing what you ( it would make me a hypocrite) do but dont lead other people who perhaps have never done drugs before and try this method of weight loss. Honestly I wish I could take back my early twenties of going clubbing and doin gthat shit- If I could send a message it would be dont start doing anything.
Again I am sorry if I came off hostile I guess I am mad at myself and dont want other people making the same mistakes.
p.s that is me in my avatar minus my face.
Chrissy honey, perhaps you shouldn't read this thread again, as you have seemed to have lost those brain cells after all. Shall I refresh your memory. :mischievous:
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=2990;sta rt=msg35641#msg35641
I had Lipo for the same 'pocket' problems on my hips. I no longer get the pockets but I still gain weight in that area once in awhile. I am happy with the results but dont expect to magically stay thin from the procedure.
Your self-aggrandizing posts are becoming a bit redundant. Also, just wondering why you once responded( to a girl calling you out on your cockiness by asking why your picture wasn't posted) that you wouldn't post pics for safty reasons... yet you claim to be in Playboy, Cosmo... :confused: :snooty:
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=2190;sta rt=msg29188#msg29188
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=269;star t=msg4314#msg4314
Now the last thing I want to do is start another internet catfight, I simply felt you should know that your pompous attitude isn't impressing anybody.
I will, for the sake of squashing this off-topic subject between us, agree with one thing you've stated... Kobi is in beautiful shape. :cutie:
chrissy
12-20-2003, 02:56 AM
Naomi check you pm's!!
LoveSexMoney
12-20-2003, 03:23 PM
I think Average Dude's response to xxeyezxx was quite unfair. Unless you weigh (or have weighed) 260 pounds, how the hell do we know how it feels? Big women are prejudiced against everyday. With looks, actions, treatment in public. It's not surprising that someone who is struggling with weight would consider using meth to lose weight. Because you will lose it. Fast. The problem is, it won't be for only 3 weeks. You will become a user. Albeit a light one probably, but using constantly nonetheless. In fact, you'll become a closet tweaker because nobody else can know right?
Be aware of the risks to your body. Your joints will start to hurt. Your back will hurt. Your teeth will get loose. You won't be able to sleep and will start a cycle of using sleeping pills/pain pills or whatever makes you drowsy to sleep. Also, you need to eat. Something at least. Because you won't want to and you'll have to force yourself to.
How many of you remember when I posted about my friend getting murdered by her ex? Remember that? She got the restraining order and the very next day he broke into her house and stabbed her 30 times. Then he cut his own wrists and died. Turns out he was MAJORLY twacked on meth. Obviously a worst case scenario but it really happened.
Nobody's mentioned what the actual ingredients are. I have a recipe for it (don't ask just know that I found it among *his* paperwork and it is now my "trump card") It's filed away in a box in a closet I will go dig for it to post what the actual ingredients are. Obviously I'm not going to post the cooking recipe but I'l post the ingredients I'm sure it's gonna really gross you guys out.
Also know that these meth labs that get set up in apartments, cheap motel rooms well when something goes wrong and it blows up you do know it can take out the entire block, right?
Ok I joined the thread late it's probably almost petered out but I'll still post back after I find that paper.
edit: and chrissy your comment wasn't unfair that was just plain fucked up.
LoveSexMoney
12-21-2003, 04:52 PM
OK peoples here it is (forgive any typos as I'm copying exactly as it was written and it looks like some misspellings to me but I'm not exactly sure):
Effedrine pills
Heet (methalnal alchole from auto parts store)
iodine crystals (horse supply place)
red phosphres (chem lab)
murardic acid (pool supply dept)
coleman fuel
Red Devil Lye (by Draino - you were right Michele!)
No need to include the hardware required or the cooking and gassing directions. Remember I posted above this stuff is highly volatile and will take out an entire block if the lab explodes. It's just that nobody seemed to really know what meth is made of and there seemed to be some confusion as to whether Drano was really an ingredient. Shit, I had no idea Drano was an ingredient till I pulled the paper out of the closet this afternoon.
I know this recipe is at least 4 years old I'm sure there are variations and this is certainly not the classic biker meth that was so prevalent in san diego 20+ years ago.
And to comment on meth use in the military, I heard from several different people that Hitler's army used it. Not sure how true that is or the reason for it but thought I would add it.
:peace:
michele
12-21-2003, 05:10 PM
Saphire,you need to errase your messages you popular girl,your box was too full for me to send ya one.