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whispers
05-19-2003, 02:28 AM
............... his only defense was "but (so-and-so)always does that"


Than your problem is with her and not him. She has set the standard for what is available in your club.

azryale
05-19-2003, 02:41 PM
Than your problem is with her and not him. She has set the standard for what is available in your club.
your partly right, but to say that it is ONLY her fault is similar to saying that it should be perfectly acceptable to try touch a girl in such a manner, and you just can't blame a guy, they just think with their dicks and can't be held accountable. I am afraid I can't buy into that cop out. Before I start a dance, I let the "gentlemen" know that they are not to touch me, I will make the contact. at that point, if they feel they can persuade me to "give it up" by grabbing my cookie,so be it, but trust that I will be leading him out of the club by the adam's apple. I don't doubt that sex is for sale in the clubs, but I know I do just fine not selling it, and nor do I mislead anyone into thinking that they will get extra if I dance for them. As far as policing ourselves, many girls try, and alot of times it is futile. I do my best to let girls know they would be better of working for an escort service, now all I ask is that "gentlemen" start acting like that and quit trying to finger the new girl. >:(

LEIGH_LANDON
05-20-2003, 01:16 AM
Azryale, I laughed at the part whereas you may lead them out of the club by the adam's apple, LOL!

I just wanted to remark on your point where as "ya cant blame the guy!" or "no man is gonna refuse"...etc etc you nailed that one quite effectively as the "cop out" that it is.

Why is it there has to be any leeway to men that they have this clause applied in any given circumstance as though they have no rationale or ability to think clearly logically if it has anything to do with sex?

Funny how that one just sits out there, and you plucked it up sweet as you please Azryale, calling it exactly what it is.

chair
10-20-2003, 10:30 AM
I agree with Tina that there are posters who do extras and will not admit it

big_daddy
10-31-2003, 10:03 AM
Not all guys are the same. I would not like extras at the club. I do not ask for any. It goes back to the "to lick or not to lick" if she blows others and kisses you, you get dick lips and no guy wants that. To me a vip dance is a relaxing time as long as the dancer is good and for the time were together it's just me and her. Thats makes it all good for me!

VenusGoddess
11-15-2003, 09:01 AM
I have had some guys ask me to do some "extras" for extra money. All I do is tell them, "NO. If you want a blow job, then go home to your wife or go find a hooker. If you want an enjoyable lap dance, then you're in the right place." If they keep pressing for extras, then I just collect my money and then walk away. To hell with them...they're mainly the ones who just can't seemed to get laid (they seem to have this "OLD RECOLLECTION" that if they spend money on a woman, then she's already obligated to him sexually).

If they have had so many "air dances" that they need something else to get them "interested" again, then you're not dealing with a "healthy" man. Men who frequent strip clubs on a daily/nightly basis are not "sexually healthy" men, sex addicts, if you will, and no matter what they or you do...they will never be satisfied...so why bother? Let them go and find some other place to expend their energy.

chair
12-25-2003, 07:30 PM
Does anyone feel sorry for dancers who do extras for practically every customer?

guywholikesdancers
12-26-2003, 11:47 AM
Come on, not every customer is out there asking for extras. Many of us are married and don't want them. Do even 50% of your customers ask for them? I'd be surprised. Granted, 50% would still be a lot of crap to deal with every day.

Rayleen
12-26-2003, 04:20 PM
Attention

:troll: :troll:Lover/RomanticLover Alert :troll: :troll:



Some guys who pay for extras may be the ones who are least likely to marry a dancer who performs them





Does anyone feel sorry for dancers who do extras for practically every customer?





Are there any of you out there who are getting old [I guess over 35 or so] and sense that the end is near but you haven't saved up ANY money during all that time [I know it's possible despite the large amounts of money that some girls make]

What do you do when the looks are gone? Some of you have even said that you wouldn't even rent an apartment to a stripper? Some folks just don't want to deal with former strippers? Does the future consist of standing on a street corner?




some customers may be going to strip clubs to find a girlfriend

FBR
12-26-2003, 04:25 PM
Rayanna could be...but I havent seen $10 laps mentioned plus not as many capital letters LOL Maybe hes in stealth mode LOL

FBR

doc-catfish
12-28-2003, 09:05 AM
Rayanna could be...but I havent seen $10 laps mentioned plus not as many capital letters LOL Maybe hes in stealth mode LOL

Oh believe me, Lover/RL would never admit to paying a full $10 for a lap dance. He'd brag on and on about haggling the dancer down to at least $6. Super high mileage of course.

tragic-beauty
01-01-2004, 02:51 PM
honestly when it comes to the industry we work in.. you cannot trust anybody... EXPECIALLY THE MEN. Of corse they want to get into your pants.. they dont care about you.. they just want to get laid.. its all a game to them.. they'll be nice to you for a while.. come in and see you.. then out comes their expectations... you say no? they leave and never return

montythegeek
01-01-2004, 07:56 PM
I have to say this before someone else does.
"I want to get into Shan's pants but the leg holes are too small."

big_daddy
01-04-2004, 01:32 AM
:withstupid:
FBR I don't think your stupid I have been waiting to get the chance to use that. :)

FBR
01-04-2004, 11:49 AM
BD Ive wanted to use that one too..its cool LOL

FBR

merely_lurking
01-06-2004, 03:40 PM
honestly when it comes to the industry we work in.. you cannot trust anybody... EXPECIALLY THE MEN. Of corse they want to get into your pants.. they dont care about you.. they just want to get laid..

That's not true of all men. Personally, I care about dancers and I also want to get into their pants.

blondhottie
01-12-2004, 11:48 PM
Rayanna could be...but I havent seen $10 laps mentioned plus not as many capital letters LOL Maybe hes in stealth mode LOL

Oh believe me, Lover/RL would never admit to paying a full $10 for a lap dance. He'd brag on and on about haggling the dancer down to at least $6. Super high mileage of course.


LOL...I seriously doubt that "chair" and "lover/romantic lover" are the same guy. Like Doc Catfish said, Lover would brag about haggling the dancer down to $5 or $6 for a dance, with the dancer letting him finger her and jacking him off, yeah right. ::) Yeah, there are some hos out there that do that sort of thing, but they charge a lot more than $5 or $6. Also this "chair" person has not said "Do not pay dancers for conversation" like Lover says all the time.

Miniman
01-13-2004, 08:30 PM
Shan - you can't choose to work in an industry where you are required to show everything you got and not expect your customers to want what you have to offer. We are talking biology here. But we are also talking respect. And there are men out there who want you, but will respect the fact they cannot have you. Apparently you have only run into those customers who don't understand that. Please don't paint us all with the same brush.

Concubine
11-02-2004, 08:20 PM
I cannot find any Texas link.:-[

BruteSentiment
11-02-2004, 09:06 PM
I found the particular forum (After you click forums, it appears all the cities in Texas are just listed on the front forum page, and the strip club thread is inside the Houston Forum), but heaven knows I'm not going to search through 2,000 such pages to try and find the thread, especially now that this discussion is 2 years old. Anyways, I think everything that can be said about this issue has been, and all that's left is for people who are new to chime in on one side of the debate or the other.

I don't go to a club for extras, and almost certainly would not have sex in a club (well, not with a dancer...if I took a GF and snuck into a private room for the thrill...different story). And I would not pay for sex.

But if the impossible happened and a dancer struck up a conversation and initiated an outside-the-club relationship, on whatever basis, I'm not going to shoot it down immeadiately. At that point, I'd decide on it the same way I'd decide on what I'd do the same way I would if I met the girl in a bar or on the internet.

But I have yet to ever be offered a sexual extra in a club, and I don't think I ever will. I don't know why.

CharlotteInTN
11-03-2004, 02:30 AM
I'm not judging anyone here, but I read the thread on aspd and those guys were talking about getting oral sex without condoms.
Don't they worry about STDs? Don't they realize that if a girl will do it for them then he's not the only one and that makes her a STD risk? On the other hand, don't those girls worry about STDs?
I would. I know some people forget you can get them from oral, but you can and that would just freak me out.

AkashaM
03-07-2005, 10:56 PM
http://www.aspd.net/showthread.php?threadid=50442&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

FONDL
03-08-2005, 02:39 PM
If any guy started a post here saying "all strippers are ... (insert derogatory term here)," I think you girls would rightfully be pissed. Well we're no different. There are a lot of nice guys in your clubs who aren't at all interested in extras, they're just there to have fun and get to know you a little. I'm one of them. If I wanted extras I'd hire a hooker, it would generally be a lot cheaper.

Which I think is part of your problem. You expect guys to drop big bucks on you. Well guess what, some of them are going to try to get as much as they can for their money. Don't you when you go shopping and spend a bundle?

Plus there's another reason guys proposition girls in strip clubs - some of you sometimes say yes. If nobody every said yes guys looking for sex would soon stop going to strip clubs and hire hookers instead. Is that what you all want, for all the guys hoping for sex to stop coming to your club?

kitana
03-08-2005, 03:02 PM
How I missed this thread last year is beyond me. These guys are pigs, LOL.

It's really gross. If a guy tried any of that shit on me, I would kick him in the balls.

Kitana

Katrine
03-08-2005, 03:40 PM
http://www.trashy.com/index.php?s=product&set_id=2188
Ladies!
That thread is from Houston aspd. Those guys are a rare breed of bayou gutter rats in themselves. They all go to the same dirty club in houston and receive extras from the same 4-5 girls.

Sometimes they get extras at other Houston clubs and they rave about it. When anyone posts that they got dances with NO extras, they rag on the dancer, the club, and tell the poster what a pussy he is because he couldn't score. Thus breeds the environment for lots of locker room bragging and pure lies.

This DOES NOT represent most men who go to the stripclubs. I danced in Houston for years and this doesn't even represent the Houston contingency. Remember, the online world and the real world often differ........

showgirlschloe
03-08-2005, 04:49 PM
I looked through a lot of the other posts made on that site, and wow, all I can say is what a bunch of retards. I know there are a lot of regular customers that do enjoy talking and doing the dance that the law says is okay. But, I do know there are some girls out there that do that sort of stuff. We've had a few through our club and they got fired so fast. It's sick though that a bunch of guys have to brag on and on about it just so they can play "who's dick is bigger".

Katrine
03-08-2005, 05:59 PM
Well, the rule in Houston is technically 3ft distance. So if a girl is dancing for an undercover cop, or if the club get raided and they see contact, the girl is going to get arrested whether she touched the side of his face while undressed or if she's on her knees blowing him. All bets are off............no one dances by the rules.........

merely_lurking
03-08-2005, 07:50 PM
Who unearthed this classic thread.....? I do think it is a little bit silly on ASPD sometimes when it seems like guys are bragging about paying women to have sex with them, but still check out the occasional thread for informational purposes. The thing in Houston is that generally girls don't seem to get fired for doing extras, as long as the manager is tipped properly. Depends on the club though.

Katrine
03-08-2005, 11:01 PM
Who unearthed this classic thread.....? I do think it is a little bit silly on ASPD sometimes when it seems like guys are bragging about paying women to have sex with them, but still check out the occasional thread for informational purposes. The thing in Houston is that generally girls don't seem to get fired for doing extras, as long as the manager is tipped properly. Depends on the club though.

Whatever dude, I was perusing it the other day and you have lots of posts on there!!! ::) Its ok, I'm on there too but vagina owners aren't allowed to post in the Houston section for fear that we might tell the boys something true that they don't wanna hear! Asshats. >:(

Meea
03-09-2005, 12:05 AM
"Next thing you know dfk, ne, se, bbbj w/cim and cfs"

What does this all mean, anyways? I know bbbj and cim but what about the rest of it? Haha I'm such a dork...

Djoser
03-09-2005, 02:16 AM
I looked through a lot of the other posts made on that site, and wow, all I can say is what a bunch of retards. I know there are a lot of regular customers that do enjoy talking and doing the dance that the law says is okay. But, I do know there are some girls out there that do that sort of stuff. We've had a few through our club and they got fired so fast. It's sick though that a bunch of guys have to brag on and on about it just so they can play "who's dick is bigger".

Yup, it's pretty pathetic...

Some guys spend hours every day doing just that, like anyone who was really getting this kind of action would waste their time doing so. Stay away from these types of site if you don't like this shit. There are some very cool people who post in them, but there are some who need to work fo Penthouse Letters magazine.

colleen
03-09-2005, 03:06 AM
http://www.aspd.net/showthread.php?threadid=50442&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

With regard to the "gentlemen" who posted in this particlular thread, don't they know that GENTLEMAN can also mean FUCKING IDIOT in strip club language??

poriland4
07-11-2005, 09:26 AM
now you are calling the customers "pathetic and idiots"......explain me why you are in that business?

Mastridonicus
07-11-2005, 10:52 AM
Hahah why can't dancers be human and custy's be respectible.

I mean CHRIST. I Just want to go to a club and have a conversation, perhaps a LD from a good looking girl who may be really intelligent, of which I am willing to pay for time. I >never< walked into a bar, pulled my pants tighter and said 'I'm gittin tail teenite!'

If I'm really a 'pathetic idiot' the jokes on you, cause you're willing to take money to talk to me. Yea it sounds like you're one upping the custy, but its no different. At least not to me. Dancers and Custy's <speaking for myself> are on an even playing field.

Perhaps another post. NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE MEANT. I'm tired :/

colleen
07-11-2005, 11:16 AM
now you are calling the customers "pathetic and idiots"......explain me why you are in that business?

It's always a newbie who pulls up this mummified thread. *sigh*

But to answere your question, did you read the thread in question before you posted? If so, you will see (I hope) that there was plenty on that thread that is pathetic and idiotic.

Why am I in this biz:

10. The hours are good
9. The money is good
8. The stress is low
7. Cosmetics are a business expense
6. I like to dress up in cute clothes and dance for a living
5. Club lighting makes me look even hotter than I already am
4. Having good looking starngers buy me drinks all night is good for my ego
3. It gives me a reason to post on stripper web
2. Pole dancing is a great workout

ANd the #1 reason I am in the business:

the 90% of my customers who are NOT reperesented by the pathetic idiots posting threads like that one.

Madcap
07-11-2005, 01:52 PM
Colleen rocks (oh no! I posted in here!)

Mastridonicus
07-11-2005, 02:36 PM
I'm not totally sure. But I think I just got owned there too.

I'm not sure tho...

hmmmmmm

yeeeeaaaaaaaaaa.....

colleen
07-11-2005, 11:44 PM
Colleen rocks (oh no! I posted in here!)

It's ok, Mad. You can always claim I lured}:D you in here!

amylynnej
07-24-2005, 09:20 AM
actually its amazing what a little bad luck will do. one of my friends who dances in houston said things went downhill fast when the enron guys git busted. enron execs and their junior execs would blow thousands in the clubs and has soon as the company got busted it all evaporated. so to make money alot of the girls had to do things they didnt before.

Derek
07-24-2005, 07:42 PM
actually its amazing what a little bad luck will do. one of my friends who dances in houston said things went downhill fast when the enron guys git busted. enron execs and their junior execs would blow thousands in the clubs and has soon as the company got busted it all evaporated. so to make money alot of the girls had to do things they didnt before.

Yea I am glad the Enron crud folks went down and I sure like those SC gals I have been a bangin for $100 - $200.

Madcap
07-25-2005, 12:44 AM
Cassanova.

barkingowl1
07-25-2005, 08:12 PM
This was a really interesting thread on a number of different levels. The ASPD site isn't the only one where customers act like that. There's another one that's a members only site called Customers provide reviews of the clubs, what dancers are friendly & what they can get away with. I haven't looked at the entire country but I get the distinct impression that things are going downhill pretty rapidly. I really only know a few clubs in the Charlotte NC region & from the various reviews I've read there are good dancers & dancers who give extras. I've never thought about getting extras from a dancer, well maybe once or twice. But my definition of extras involve teasing, talking & making sure that the lady entertaining me is having a good time as well. I like a nice slow erotic dance with eye contact & perhaps a fantasy forming in my mind.

My wife & I went to Lollipops in Daytona Beach a few years ago with some friends. They had to come up with their fake names & occupations before we entered the club. ::) One friend was Guiermo a race car driver, the other was Steve a race car mechanic. Pretty pathetic huh? The place was full to capacity & reeked of cheap cigars & sweat. We sat at a table & the hours went by... I was so bored. None of the girls that were on that night had any sort of rhythm & with our 2 drunk companions no one was approaching the table. One girl finally came over. She was tall with glasses. She went right over to my wife & offered her a free VIP dance. My wife declined so she took Guiermo & Steve into the VIP room & jerked them off. This was after she & I left.

I had the feeling in that club that I was an ATM machine not a person. If the entertainer can give me a slow, erotic, sensual dance then she will get my money. Its that simple. I like to think that the entertainers have a life outside of the club. If they share a bit of their lives with me its nice but not expected. :beer:

infra-red
07-30-2005, 01:34 AM
As a loyal customer of "LEGS" in Kansas City MO, I can tell you that every other Saturday night, as I make my home in a semi-intoxicated stupor, its nice to stop at the club, which is 3 minutes from my house, and see some nice T & A before going home. I'm NOT there to pick anyone up, I get great drinks from the bartenders...THATS why I go. I've been going there for 6 or so years, and I think I've had 3 lap dances, and that was with a girl that used to work for me; she just wanted to show me what she'd learned!LOL! I like several of the girls, but, I have no desire to be the club "playa"! BTW, one of the shot girls lets me brush her hair for her...who wouldn't love it????

Bob