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livenudegirlsunite
02-11-2004, 10:41 AM
Most dancers have to pretend to be bisexual in order to sell dances. It's a way to appeal to the Howard Stern male mentality. It's just part of the act. Although I have met a few true bisexuals in the different clubs that I have worked in.

erotictonic
02-14-2004, 03:20 AM
For those of you that are lesbian/bisexual, were you molested by women as children? How did you know you were a lesbian/bisexual?

Topaz
02-14-2004, 06:38 AM
i've never been abused by a woman....ever....

and i became attracted to women in the mid 90's...after a close encounter...been fantasizing since my late teens...haven't had sex with a woman yet...

i still consider myself hetero though....dispite the fact that i have no desire to be with a man anymore (for the most part)....a hetero with lesbian desires...which opens up another book of major issues for me...

parsifal
02-15-2004, 12:05 AM
Freud said something about 6 steps from homo to hetero. I think I am a 2.

A co-worker and I saw a porn show (before VHS) and then went to a bar with strippers. The bar was close to my place and I suggested going over there to straighten up before getting something to eat. I come out of my bathroom and my co-worker has striped down to his jockeys and I am a little shocked. He says he thought I was gay (he was married). I figured this was going to be the best time to find out what a girl goes through so we sucked each other for a while and I asked to take it in the ass. He comes as soon as he gets near my ass, grabs his clothes and says he has to go home. So I know how some women feel now. Am I bi-, not very, and have never had another affair with a guy. I want someone soft who won't leave me after they cum. Oh, and we continued to have lunch and never brought it up again.

parsifal

Topaz
02-15-2004, 05:19 AM
:brow: ok...

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS NASTY ASS STORY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD!...or ms tonic's question...

:bored: :meditate:

vanilla_dog
02-15-2004, 09:50 AM
Topaz...I was thinking the EXACT same thing!! :duck:

NO I was not molested by anyone as a child. Women are just awesome is all.

Freedom
02-15-2004, 11:07 AM
Freud said something about 6 steps from homo to hetero. I think I am a 2.

A co-worker and I saw a porn show (before VHS) and then went to a bar with strippers. The bar was close to my place and I suggested going over there to straighten up before getting something to eat. I come out of my bathroom and my co-worker has striped down to his jockeys and I am a little shocked. He says he thought I was gay (he was married). I figured this was going to be the best time to find out what a girl goes through so we sucked each other for a while and I asked to take it in the ass. He comes as soon as he gets near my ass, grabs his clothes and says he has to go home. So I know how some women feel now. Am I bi-, not very, and have never had another affair with a guy. I want someone soft who won't leave me after they cum. Oh, and we continued to have lunch and never brought it up again.

parsifal


Hey Parisfal,
Thanks for sharing your first Gay experience !The images of you and another guy satisfying each other was wonderful. But next time kept it in the closet.
Freedom

Freedom
02-15-2004, 11:13 AM
For those of you that are lesbian/bisexual, were you molested by women as children? How did you know you were a lesbian/bisexual?

I was never molested as a child.
I have been atrracted to women from a very early age. I hate when people try to pass homosexuality as a response to some form of sexual abuse. There are plenty of women and men in society who HAVE been abused and live hetrosexual lives. Sexual abuse is not a sentence to becoming a homsexual or a pediphile for that matter.
Freedom

memelissa13
02-15-2004, 02:34 PM
Ok me being a crossdresser and feminine and affectionate and all the above the girls here have mentioned make me bi? I dont know some peole say I am a male lesbain I use to use that term but I dont care for it. I thik I like being called bi better because I am am bi; I am a girl and a boy :) Girl brain boy body boy desire for girls :)

polecat
02-15-2004, 03:35 PM
I hate when people try to pass homosexuality as a response to some form of sexual abuse.

This is "old-school" or non-progressive thinking, but also with some basis.

By all modern scientific methods, homosexuality can be bred into most all species and identified as a genetic trait. Unfortunately, it can't be singularly isolated for obvious reasons (i.e. the genetic homosexual species becomes a terminal generation as it doesn't multiply- and artificial breeding carries on it's own side-effects that introduce error). It would only stand to reason that there is biological homosexuality that exists within humans as well.

Unfortunately, humans are also a sociological animal as well, which means the price we pay for awareness and intellect can also shape us in ways that conflict with our natural, bred instincts and tendencies. A basic example is our ability to supercede our natural instincts for self-preservation by such things as suicide, heroics/valor or similar. What this means, in the past or abroad- biological homosexuals have been conditioned into heterosexual lifestyles, as well as the reverse- biological heterosexuals conditioned into homosexual lifestyles.

Accordingly, rationally thinking about the subject- there are clearly biological homosexuals, as well as conditioned homosexuals in our society. This is also why seemingly conflicting studies truly aren't in conflict- they are just studying different samples.

memelissa13
02-15-2004, 03:50 PM
Polecat you have a huge insite on things, I like your prospectives :)

erotictonic
02-16-2004, 04:15 AM
Thank you Polecat. There is the answer I have been looking for. I had people laugh at me and make jokes about me because I thought some homo/bis/trans etc. were born that way (genetics). The people that were laughing were people that had been molested, and obviously had developed the tendencies through environment. Memelissa also said he had been born with the desires. So I believe I can rest my case. Now who's laughing?

Pamela
02-16-2004, 09:19 AM
I agree with PC too. THere are studies done about same gender sex, but not enough facts to back it up it seems. I have met alot of women who are Bi, and MOST tell me they where molested, abused by 1 or both parents and so on, inother words a disfunctional family.

I have yet to talk with a woman who said she had a "normal" life with No abuse of some sort.

I do know that bisexuality is NOT normal, so they say in studies.

I dunno, i need more facts on the subject, and they seem to steer towards the "fact" that women or men where abused in one form or another as a very young child. Some so young they wont remember.

Just my readings on the subject. I have not had an encounter with a women, probably never would, i wrote in another thread i may be open to it, but that was for a stage show kinda play. In my real life, no.

I love men. I talk with alot of bi people on the phone, and when they open up i can say they had some abuse going on as a child.

I dunno. But thought i would go out on a limb. I don't think it's normal, but again....What's normal?

Pamela

dancingsuperstar
02-16-2004, 11:12 AM
well, i personally don't think it has anything to do with abuse! i can see that in the lost soul-type girl who has led a rough life and may be confused and view men as all bad, etc. ......etc.

i love men first and foremost. however, i also enjoy being with girls. so, i guess i would be considered bisexual. as much as i love women sexually for fun, i would not consider a lesbian relationship. there really is a difference b/t lesbians and bisexuals. i'm sure the two intertwine, so one girl may enjoy guys, but love girls, etc. from my experiences, most girls i've been with do it for fun and have boyfriends or husbands. we simply enjoy the physical sexuality of each other.

as for dancers being bi. i would have to say dancing is more an ideal breeding ground (for lack of better wording) for bisexual tendencies for a couple reasons:

1. if you dance, you see naked girls all night long. so, one would think that you don't mind looking at women, and perhaps even enjoy it. i think that's the first inkling of realizing that you are attracted to girls.

2. sure a lot of dancers play with each other for the customers. but, the girls may end of enjoying each other even if they never thought of it much before.

3. dancers usually have a pretty open mind in the first place just due to the nature of work. they are probably the most sexual people around. i really feel you have to be comfortable with yourself and your sexuality to dance, or to do it consistently with good results.

parsifal
02-16-2004, 03:30 PM
Topaz: WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS NASTY ASS STORY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD!...or ms tonic's question...

Sorry to those who were offended. The subject had turned to bi-sexuality in general and I was adding a personal experience.

Parsifal

Lilith
02-16-2004, 05:55 PM
Parsifal~
I found your anecdotes and comments to be completely relevant to the topic, and wonder how it could possibly be construed as "offensive".


While I can appreciate women aesthetically, they do nothing for me sexually. I am het and there won't be any changing that. What gets on my nerves are customers or dancers who state that I am merely "repressing my natural bisexual tendencies". Oh, the irony,.

velvet
02-16-2004, 06:30 PM
wow, i lived a lesbian lifestyle for 12 years. no men at all. i consider myself bi and i have never been abused in anyway. neither have my strictly lesbian friends. to say that lesbianism or bisexuality is the product of abuse is mind boggling. i have been in a hetro relationship for the last 6 years. i fell in love with the PERSON not what they had between thier legs. i consider myself completly normal and well adjusted. i cant believe that in this day and age people will still fall back on the "oh they must have been abused" argument..... no wonder people are freaking out about the gay marriage issue, they cant be NORMAL people. i really cant believe what i have read here by some.

Topaz
02-17-2004, 03:32 AM
guess i was a little too harsh...forgive me...

Lexi
02-17-2004, 06:12 AM
:brow: ok...

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS NASTY ASS STORY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD!...or ms tonic's question...

:bored: :meditate:



:rotfl: I read parsifal's response, and although it didnt offend me or anything, I dont see how it kinda goes with the topic?
Anyway what made me laugh was your response Topaz :rotfl:

Lilith
02-17-2004, 09:57 AM
Frankly, I found her comments to be extremely homophobic and totally out of line in the same thread where people are posting "Bi and Proud!"

vanilla_dog
02-17-2004, 01:12 PM
I've asked a few dancers about their sexual preference and it seems like most dancers I've asked tell me they're bi. Is bisexuality more common than not among dancers? Don't get me wrong I am in no way offended by it, actually I think it's totally natural and sexy!


That was the question. Dancer's sexual preferences. Unless parisfal is a dancer...I think his reply was not relevant. However, it was nice that he apologized.

Farrah_Holiday
02-17-2004, 03:40 PM
Sorry to those who were offended. The subject had turned to bi-sexuality in general and I was adding a personal experience.

Parsifal


Your story didn't offend me.. I found it very different lol
I think the difference is two women are viewed by some as being very soft sensual and can be a turn to some. While two men together is disturbing to some. Its a very biased view IMO.

Parisal, you get :10: for apologizing !!
Farrah

Lexi
02-17-2004, 06:57 PM
Farrah I agree... I know so many guys who say "gayness" is wrong in the eyes of the bible, yet they love lesbians. Soooo hypocritical.
Yes he gets a :10: for apologizing. ;)

Sexy
02-18-2004, 05:39 PM
I am bi by choice. I was abused but did not become bi because of my abuse and was never abused by a woman. The argument that people who were abused became bi because of it is in my mind a pointless argument. If that was the case then why aren't ALL abused people Bi or gay? And why aren't all people who haven't been abused straight? Many would argue that dancers must have sexual issues and/or have been abused.

Get rid of the stigmas... And don't judge others for their choices.



I have a very loving, close, strong relationship with my husband. We play with others because we are comfortable with our sexuality, our relationship and ourselves. I play with women because its fun and enjoyable. I play with other men because it's fun and enjoyable. Hubby plays with women because it's fun and enjoyable. Doing all of this also turns both of us on immensely knowing and/or watching. I wouldn't want an exclusive relationship with anyone other than a man and for that matter anyone other than my husband. There's just some things women can't provide me and a place that no one can fill but my husband.

Its our life, our choice and if we aren't hurting anyone else doing it, so it shouldn't be an issue. If you like it Great! If you don't you don't have to know.

If a person enjoys something why is it an issue if they aren't hurting others around them? If it's illegal or harmful to others it shouldn't happen. If it's between 2 (or more) consenting adults that's their business not mine.

sarah angel
02-19-2004, 12:07 AM
I have been attracted to girls/women since I can remember. I remember in preschool playing "doctor" with another girl. As a teenager, my first sexual experiences were with women, my first love was a woman, and now I have a wonderful boyfriend. Before I started dancing, I had almost uncontrolable attractions to women. Dancing seems to have helped- seeing naked women everyday keeps my need to see naked women out of my mind.

However, I don't pride on my bisexuality at work. If someone asks if I like girls, I say I do, but I don't sell myself on it to try to get dances. I've talked to so many men in clubs that are offended or turned off by it that I've only actually told (and danced with another girl) with the customers I know well.

Someone asked how women know they're attracked to women- well how did you know you were attracted to men? I get the same feeling when seeing a woman I'm attracted to as I do when I see an attractive man. However, females in porn, magizines, etc turn me on more than men (my attraction to men tends to differ from most women).

I've been with my boyfriend for 5 years, and he calls me his little lesbian.

parsifal
02-19-2004, 02:11 AM
You were correct. I wondered in this area and wanted to share what I thought was a funny story. I should have remembered what the topic was. I got my hand slapped, it feels ok now.

Parsifal

erotictonic
02-19-2004, 03:01 AM
Funny, I don't consider myself bi. But my best friend and I used to play boy/girl and pretend like we were doing the deed in elementary school. We actually french-kissed. And now I subscribe to Playboy and have an admiration for beautiful women. Maybe I need to reassess my sexuality....

Lilith
02-19-2004, 09:42 AM
That was the question. Dancer's sexual preferences. Unless parisfal is a dancer...I think his reply was not relevant.


He wasn't the only non-dancer posting a response. He was merely the only non-dancer blasted for posting. Therefore, whether it was relevant does not excuse the blasters from being sexist and a bit homophobic.

Topaz
02-19-2004, 09:56 AM
i had a problem with the graphic nature of his story...not him personally...so in my book...that doesn't make me homophobic...but you're into labling people...so whatever...

what would be your lable for the lesbians and gays that strongly dislike bisexuals...to the point that they (the gays and lesbians) call them (the bisexuals) selfish, confused, whores that are high risk for disease (that one was said about bisexual women...by lesbians...that they are a high risk for std's and AIDS...because they still sleep with men)?...

i'm not making any excuses for my statments...i'm just wondering how long you're going to DRAG this one out...


:peace:

Lilith
02-19-2004, 10:52 AM
...but you're into labling people...so whatever...

Can you prove this or were you just pulling this out of your ass?

No pun intended.

I'll "drag" it out until it is settled to my satisfaction in regards to Parsifal being allowed (*snort*) to post without suffering nasty responses. I find it ironic as all bloody hell that
1) we have no idea what Parsifal does for a living (which means he may be a dancer ), yet
2) we know that you are not a dancer and
3) he and his post about bisexuality is labeled as "not being relevant"... by you.

That this is supported by others is, in my opinion, wrong. Either dancers are the only people allowed to repond (which means we must all give a pointed look in your direction, Topaz), or the forum is open to everyone. I support the latter and am extremely puzzled as to why you are not equally supportive, for obvious reasons.

Topaz
02-19-2004, 11:29 AM
i never made any reference to him being irrelevant...just the nature of the post made...and apologized for the harshness...where did i blast him personally?...let's see

"what the fuck does this nasty ass story have to do with this thread..."

i made no reference to his sexual pereference...not that i can see...and do not judge him harshly for who (or what) he likes...

i don't pretend to be a dancer...usually say i'm not...and didn't make the statment that he was not...nor do i consider him irrelevant for not being one (for obvious reasons)...i'm also not in control of who chooses to support...or blast me...or even how they choose to interpret my posts...

i also recall people blasting another female on this site...for spelling imperfections...among other things...and continued until it got sickning...

and how many times have i been blasted (or my posts picked completely apart), by someone who doesn't know me...

like i said...i don't make any excuses for my statement...and if this is a dancer's only site...then maybe i should stop sharing...but...did you think that men wouldn't get blasted on a majority female site?...regardless of fairness or rightness...no one is perfectly accepting of everybody...or is going to be fair to everybody...

:flower: or better yet :beer:

vanilla_dog
02-19-2004, 02:40 PM
Parsifals post was clearly a case of which one of these stories doesn't belong here?

The story was from a male and it was overly graphic. No one else was talking about how they took another chick's clit in their mouth etc. etc.

Topaz may not be a dancer but her replies were relevant. The thread is obviously about female bisexuality which Topaz can claim - unlike parsifal, or Lilith.

Cudos to parsifal for kissing and making up. He's cool.

Lilith
02-19-2004, 05:11 PM
Parsifals post was clearly a case of which one of these stories doesn't belong here?


Not necessarily. It depends upon your perspective. If you mean that his was the only male story of bisexuality, then you are clearly placing male bisexuality in the "doesn't belong here" grouping, despite the thread topic being about (Gasp!) bisexuality. Which leaves me to wonder why a post about bisexuality doesn't belong in this thread (the one about *surprise surprise!* bisexuality).

You state that his story doesn't belong here because he is male. I will leave it up to you to decide if that is Sexist (How dare that man step in here! Get him!) or Homophobic (Ewwww! He talked about touching a guy's dick!) .



The story was from a male and it was overly graphic. No one else was talking about how they took another chick's clit in their mouth etc. etc.

Point the First:
You may not realize it, but men can be bisexual and dancers. Consider yourself notified.


Point the Second:
On a board devoted to strippers (sexually deviant to the mainstream culture) and specifically within a thread about bisexuality (more sexual "deviants", according to the mainstream), I do not think you can logically claim that you should only expect to read G-rated responses. In other words, this board ain't Mr. Roger's Neighborhood and it's certainly not for those easily offended by sexual occurances.


Topaz may not be a dancer but her replies were relevant. The thread is obviously about female bisexuality which Topaz can claim - unlike parsifal, or Lilith.

1) Are we claiming that I am not female? Because Topaz specifically said, like me, that she considers herself hetero. Page four.

2) The thread is not "obviously about female bisexuality". If you will re-read the original post, you will find that there was no use of identifying pronoun.


I've asked a few dancers about their sexual preference and it seems like most dancers I've asked tell me they're bi. Is bisexuality more common than not among dancers? Don't get me wrong I am in no way offended by it, actually I think it's totally natural and sexy!



In fact, the specific question is this: "Is bisexuality more common than not among dancers?"

The question did not require that the responders be solely dancers. The question did not ask for only bisexual responses. As previously stated, the OP did not use a pronoun to define topic gender nor is the OP's gender apparent. Since both men and women can be dancers, and both men and women can be bisexual, we can thus assume that the topic is general bisexuality. Since the OP wants to know which is more common between bisexuality, het or gay/lesbian, we can thus also assume that the OP wants to hear from all three (because you cannot determine a majority until you know all statistics involved).

So... the topic is in fact general bisexuality or the lack thereof.

polecat
02-20-2004, 04:13 AM
Allow me to interject my heterosexual, male and non-dancer opinion into the current discussion.. ;D

Overall-
I feel it's a lose-lose situation to define and judge those things that make us all special, unique and valuable. One person's ethic or morals is another person's prejudice or repulsion for a great deal of our perceptions and experiences. Neither case is "wrong", but instead simply definable character traits.

Specifically-
A post with, at the very least, measurable contrast and different level of detail from a stream of others becomes the focal point. For some, it might be considered offensinve or inappropriate.. and we should respect and honor such a standpoint. For others, it's deemed worthy and applicable, and we should also honor and respect this opinion as well.

The bottom line is- an argument about such things truly has a basis of imposing morals, which can only go round and round and escalate. I completely understand the hypocrisy of my interjection as being pretty much the same thing (i.e. morals imposing), but it's from a direction of compassion and truly trying to understand other's opinions. While we may not accept them, I believe it's important to at least recognize them no matter how much the differ from our own.

I totally understand Topaz's repulsion and reasoning. I found Freedom's reply about staying in the closet a good point of sarcasm. I see the nobility in parsifal's appology for the noted contrast in his reply, along with his ability to leave it un-edited for the content and value it provides, and I respect and find Lilith's view important and pertinent to this forum and it's participants.

Moreover, textual forms of communication are highly flawed. Most of our perception from the written words are based from our own assumptions of the character of the posters within. There is no inflection, tonal changes nor body language to accompany, so it's extremely easy to misjudge someone's intent or the spirit behind it. I hope we can all keep this in mind as we move forward as this place has some extremely valuable, insightful and special people on-board... from which any form of division would only be tragic.

Farrah_Holiday
02-20-2004, 12:34 PM
Allow me to interject my heterosexual, male and non-dancer opinion into the current discussion.. ;D

Overall-
I feel it's a lose-lose situation to define and judge those things that make us all special, unique and valuable. One person's ethic or morals is another person's prejudice or repulsion for a great deal of our perceptions and experiences. Neither case is "wrong", but instead simply definable character traits.

Specifically-
A post with, at the very least, measurable contrast and different level of detail from a stream of others becomes the focal point. For some, it might be considered offensinve or inappropriate.. and we should respect and honor such a standpoint. For others, it's deemed worthy and applicable, and we should also honor and respect this opinion as well.

The bottom line is- an argument about such things truly has a basis of imposing morals, which can only go round and round and escalate. I completely understand the hypocrisy of my interjection as being pretty much the same thing (i.e. morals imposing), but it's from a direction of compassion and truly trying to understand other's opinions. While we may not accept them, I believe it's important to at least recognize them no matter how much the differ from our own.

I totally understand Topaz's repulsion and reasoning. I found Freedom's reply about staying in the closet a good point of sarcasm. I see the nobility in parsifal's appology for the noted contrast in his reply, along with his ability to leave it un-edited for the content and value it provides, and I respect and find Lilith's view important and pertinent to this forum and it's participants.

Moreover, textual forms of communication are highly flawed. Most of our perception from the written words are based from our own assumptions of the character of the posters within. There is no inflection, tonal changes nor body language to accompany, so it's extremely easy to misjudge someone's intent or the spirit behind it. I hope we can all keep this in mind as we move forward as this place has some extremely valuable, insightful and special people on-board... from which any form of division would only be tragic.



Wow PC..I am in awe of your insight. Tolerance is key.
:highfive:,
Farrah

Pamela
02-20-2004, 12:48 PM
I so agree with expressing what we think about situations. I don't look at being a "gay" person normal. That is just my little ole opinion. I have friends who are gay, and been around many at work. I don't treat them any different than i would want to be treated. Just seems men and women belong together sexually, and not same sex people.

But it's all good. Everyone loves people no matter if they are gay or not! I do!
pamela ;)

vanilla_dog
02-20-2004, 02:26 PM
If one of us guys gets carried away and try to make their fantasy a reality not only may he be surprised to find out his favorite dancer is bi or les, he'll sure as hell crash land emotionally. That really hurts.


Ha ha ha...when I first started dancing I had this obnoxious but great tipping customer. (I also had a girlfriend). I went out to dinner with this guy a few times which is something I still do frequently with customers. One day he comes in the club and some jealous dancer tells him I have a girlfriend and am a lesbian. The dude just trips out. He stands at my stage and yells to all the customers I am a lesbian and he won't shut up and finally I have him tossed out of the bar.

I guess he crash landed emotionally? :brokenheart:

The thing is..this dude was a ex-congressman and a cattle rancher and easily twice my age. :dunce:

vanilla_dog
02-20-2004, 02:37 PM
You were correct. I wondered in this area and wanted to share what I thought was a funny story. I should have remembered what the topic was. I got my hand slapped, it feels ok now.

Parsifal


Aww Parsifal I think at this point you should probably kill yourself. In fact, I will be looking for your post in the suicide thread. Look what you have done!!!

You got Lilith snorting, defensive and writing novels. You made Topaz use ALLCAPS and now...I am about to cry! *sniffle*

Damn your bisexual experience! Damn it to hell!

Katrine
02-21-2004, 03:49 PM
:10:
Hehehe...I like this lady........wanna go eat dinner with me sometimes Vanilla....at the Y?? :beaver: :beaver: :beaver:

vanilla_dog
02-22-2004, 01:01 AM
:heartbeat: :lovestruck: :heartbeat:

:hungry:

*Closes the Blinds*

Rawkergirl64
04-04-2004, 02:00 AM
:brow: ok...

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS NASTY ASS STORY HAVE TO DO WITH THIS THREAD!...or ms tonic's question...

:bored: :meditate:



:rotfl: I read parsifal's response, and although it didnt offend me or anything, I dont see how it kinda goes with the topic?
Anyway what made me laugh was your response Topaz :rotfl:


ditto. and still lmfao!

aphrodite
04-04-2004, 04:06 AM
I'm a little dissappointed at the people who bashed Parsifal's experience. i know alot of you would be upset if someone called your lesbian experiences "nasty ass" many of you claim to be open sexually, maybe you don't like to hear about gay encounters but Parsifal's exp totally goes with the thread, i think its very rude the reactions here. Parsifal i say thanks for being willing to post about this, and i think its great that you are so open and liberated sexually...personally i get turned on by girl/girl, guy/girl, or guy/guy...its all hot

ami
04-05-2004, 09:45 AM
I think all people are bi to some degree. bi does not mean 50/50 split, i for instance, am far more attracted to females then males, I am basicly a lesbian with a husband (who I am very attracted to). even people who are straight or gay may have some slight tendencies tward the other gender. dancers tend to be very open minded in general, look at us we do something not consitered right by socetiy already we must not be closed to things... so i think we just experiment more, if we wanna try it and a good oppertunity comes up, why not? even those of us who relized our bi-ness before we started dancing already had a pre-disposition to open minded things....

Lexi
04-05-2004, 10:50 AM
I think anyone can be attracted to others and stil not be bi, ami. ;)
I know a lesbian who thinks men are goodlooking but she would never and has never had sex with a man. (And she has no interest in it either)
So I dont think everyone is bi. Bi is liking both sexes and actually getting involved. No? (I like men and women, and have had experiences with both)

My sister thinks women are beautiful, but she would never do anything with a woman. And she has told me herself. She doesnt consider herself bi, though.
I think its different but I know what you are trying to say. ;)

LouieJ
04-06-2004, 08:41 PM
From the customer's point of view....

I've met many dancers who "claim" to be bisexual. I say "claim" because I have no way of proving whether they are or not. I asked a dancer why so many dancers are bi. She said that many really aren't, but know that saying they are bi turns guys on. It seems that guys will buy dance after dance to see a girl make-out with another girl. The girls love it because they both make money off the guy and because they're "playing", neither has to get that close to the guy.

I do know some dancers that really are bisexual. I've even met a few lesbians, too.

Lexi
04-06-2004, 09:16 PM
Louie, you are so right. I know plenty of girls at work who "say" they are bi to customers but admit it in the back that they are not. That doesnt annoy me, but it is funny.
I, on the other hand, am truly bi, but I RARELY do girl/girl shows. I did them twice and that was enough for me. LOL

Jack in LA
04-08-2004, 08:09 PM
I've known only three girls outside the club. Two I went out with (they asked me out, I swear) and one that just became a good friend. One girl was completely straight but I only went out with her twice. Another I dated for almost two years and she had been with a few women and definitely found women sexually attractive. She loved men's magazines like FHM, Stuff and Maxim. She seemed very tied or motivated to stay in the straight world as she wanted a more 'normal' life (whatever THAT is). Point is, I never really knew for sure if she was truly bisexual or just had visited lesland on a few occasions.

My friend has been with two women, but is completely straight.

FBR
04-09-2004, 03:35 PM
Since its "cool" to be bi or gay Im not surprised dancers spout off about that. I dont go for it personally and focus my attention on women who love dick.

FBR

Lexi
04-09-2004, 04:49 PM
FBR, yeah many think its "cool" because they know that a lot of guys like it. I dont tell them all that I am bi anyway, it doesnt make sense, and I, too, just focus on the guy.
I think its silly to make up that lie because its just corny. lol

NinaDaisy
04-09-2004, 11:12 PM
FBR, yeah many think its "cool" because they know that a lot of guys like it. I dont tell them all that I am bi anyway, it doesnt make sense, and I, too, just focus on the guy.
I think its silly to make up that lie because its just corny. lol




I try to change the subject when guys ask me if I'm bi and almost never do 2 girl shows (if I do it's a little light kissing) and I've met quite a few girls who fake it for the money as well.

If someone tries a new sexual experience and just doesn't like it, it's brave to admit it. At least Persifal didn't knock it till he tried it! A lot of people suppress desires that if they expressed them they probably would be much happier. As long as it's between consenting adults, pretty much anything is okay in my book, even though I might not be inclined to participate personally.