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Pryce
01-20-2003, 12:51 PM
Adding a gallery to this site has caused an issue, but it's also given us a solution to out high traffic costs.

From a section that didn't exist a week ago, the gallery is now the 3rd most popular page on this site! Of course, that isn't surprising, who wouldn't be interested in seeing what all of you beautiful women look like? The problem is images are MUCH larger than text. For example, the most popular thread on this board was "Everyones Picture", 10 pages long. Downloading just one picture from the gallery is the equivalent of reading all 10 pages of that thread more than 5 times. If you look at the gallery you can see that most pictures/albums have had over 100 views, a few over 200 - that adds up to a LOT of traffic.

Because the gallery is the sites' largest cost generator...it seems reasonable to me that it should carry that burden (and the rest of the site if possible). So my solution is to charge for gallery access :o. Let me explain how...

Right now if you submit one photo, your picture is simply put in the gallery, but if you've submitted multiples, we've given you an album in the gallery with all of your images in that album. We would charge visitors access to those albums. That way, only those who wish to see more than one picture of each of you would pay. One picture of each dancer would remain free. If we get enough sign-ups the cost could be quite inexpensive...$1.99/$2.99 or so per month.

Of course those of you with albums would have free access as long as your album is up. Not only that, but I could give you control over your albums text allowing you to promote your website, club, schedule, etc. below your image.

Several people have offered to donate $ to help keep this site running. This would provide them an easy way to do so, plus they get something in return. Also, it allows you ladies who'd like to help keep this site up to do so by just uploading images.

While we're on the subject, I have taken many steps to protect the images you submit. While it is impossible to protect an image so it can't be saved, you'll notice it is difficult to access the images in any way other than through our gallery. Other sites cannot display our images on their site by linking, nor can most users save the images.

I really like this idea, but I wanted to let you all know my plan and to get some feedback from you ladies before I go forward with it.

Thanks for listening...well reading I suppose... :)

Pryce

Jay Zeno
01-20-2003, 02:33 PM
I think it's a splendid idea. As a guy cruiser on the site, the gallery represents a special bonus to me. It's prudent to charge for it. As long as the dancers don't mind using the money generated from their images to help defray the costs of the site that they enjoy, it sounds grand.

I've always worried about this being a totally free site, Pryce. You put a lot of time into it, and obviously, nothing comes free. Sooner or later, the child has to pay his way in the world. It seems that charging admission to an "enhanced feature" (I hestitate to use the word "extra" in here anywhere ;) ) is a smart and acceptable way to go.

TiNi
01-20-2003, 02:53 PM
Jason I totally agree. Charging for the gallery might help you pay for the site. Paypal Is good. But also a con is losing some people. :-/

Jay Zeno
01-20-2003, 05:16 PM
Yeah, Tini, there's always some people who think it's a Constitutional right to surf the Web for free and get pissed off when anybody mentions payment.

But in this case, they'd just be paying for something that they didn't even have until recently anyway. The rest of the site would be open. Personally, if someone were petty enough to leave because they didn't want to pay for the pictures, I'd say good riddance.

Pryce: Please charge Lover $10. (No offense, Lover ... just sounded funny.)

Amber
01-21-2003, 04:52 PM
I'm all for it! I think it's a great idea. After all, with the amount of time and effort you put into this site, you shouldn't be forced to cover all the costs yourself, as well. That's just not right.

I doubt anyone would actually leave as a result of that, anyhow. As Jason said, it is an "enhanced feature." People will still be able to post and whatnot as they have all along. Putting up the gallery has caused the site to incur additional bandwith costs, so one wishing to view it should incur an additional fee in order to keep it up and running.

LOL, Jason -> regarding the Lover comment ;D

hollyday
01-23-2003, 01:49 AM
i totally agree...stripperpower used to be free but now charges access fees
ass, gas, or grass
no one rides for free!

mario99
01-23-2003, 04:13 AM
Here's an idea for y'all. You could get people to donate money :) Sounds cheesy but it may just work, and if you want you can give them a special icon by thier name. I say for ever $20 one donates, one get's a "lap Dance" symbol by their name, kinda like the stars by some special people's names here :) .
A pay per view(or membership) gallery would be a good idea too,

OK i'll put my money where my mouth is... I'm pledging the first $20 "lap Dance" contribution to this fine website. All you other's .... annie up... :)
(ok... a special monday night lapdance donation of $10.00 for the guys who are a little broke today) ;D

Pamela
01-23-2003, 06:15 AM
I also think alot of people will leave or not come in. But then again, a one time fee makes sence. What if someone gets upset and wants the money back? We need to look at all the options here. What about a pay per click Pryce, alot of Phone sex sites have that. And keeps you at the top 3 pages on a search engine. (wait that may be ass backwards, anyway there are two ways of doing this. And the site brings in money. Dmoz again would know. Would this be a one time fee, or more? And can we do a pay for someone else, like swapping, and know one knows who paid for that person? I don't know there are so many ways. And alot of thought. Some people here are great but can't afford to pay, they are looking for work. I can go either way. Pamela, and willing to help others. GREAT!!!! that means i can send in some rather porno, images of myself, within rules of course if it's paid, and they can't be uploaded.

McCain
01-23-2003, 10:12 AM
Paypal does not rule out payment by minors, as it can be used to draw funds from a regular bank account. You don't have to be an adult to have a bank account form which to draw funds. If Pryce does this in a manner that allows girls to post somewhat more risque photos, it may be more prudent to use a credit card setup, to help eliminate minors who may try viewing the photos.

As the photos stand at the moment - and I have stated this before - I have not seen anything worse than what is commonly found within an R-rated movie. If the photos stay as "clean" as they are now, then Paypal may be a fairly cost-effective and simple route to pursue. If not, then perhaps further consideration needs to placed on the issue of liability...

Just chipping in my two sents. I may have concerns as to how successful such a ploy may be, but I don't imagine it could hurt to try. My personal guess is that it will be successful (providing many of the girls here upload multiple photos), or it will reduce costs by reducing the number of lurkers and free-peepers (which helps reduce non-productive traffic).

McCain

Pamela
01-23-2003, 04:02 PM
You have a very good point McCain, thanks sweety. Thats why i stopped adding photos, some are rather...umm. a few are decent. Nothing gross, or nasty just total nudes in positions. Thats all. Was not sure if they would be fitting for the site. So i will add once in a great while now only decent ones, as i have a nude on a bed i wondered about. But i guess it went ok. Thanks for the information, much needed.
Pamela

TiNi
01-24-2003, 08:13 AM
McCain you are so right.

LEIGH_LANDON
02-04-2003, 06:07 AM
I think keeping the site free, and only a nominal fee say for viewing our gallery is an excellent idea. I say absolutely - go for it!!!

susan
02-04-2003, 07:11 AM
LOL... I had to laugh my ass off at Holly Day reminding me of that old saying ("ass, gas, or grass...."). Reminded me of the running gag in the Jay and Silent Bob movie about hitchhikers and oral sex.....

Bridgette
02-09-2003, 06:55 PM
I agree with Jason on all counts, especially the part about charging $10 for Lover ;D

I also agree with the idea of donations. You could add an account similar to that on the exotic dancer page - I bet you'd get a few bucks that way from folks like Mario99.

As for Jason's point about the photo donors being ok with you charging to view their pics, I have no problem with it, and I personally think that if they uploaded their pics to your site, you would have the right to charge visitors to view them.

GoldCoastGirl
02-19-2003, 12:08 PM
OneModelPlace has done something to that effect. It allows people like myself who currently can't afford to pay to stay free... we can upload as many images as we want however we will only have access to the 4 free images.

I say do it. Ask for a certain amount of $$ to allow people to access more than the one free pic ! Of course, you would have to consult the dancers who have multiple images if they want to support this idea. If they don't... just tell them that they can then only upload one free photo.

:-)

Why not charge? You have to cover costs SOMEWHERE.

Dreamer
06-18-2003, 06:31 AM
That sounds fair to me. People who want more services should have to pay for it.

fluffer_girl
06-25-2003, 08:59 AM
Hi,
I haven't been here very long, but I have danced for 5 years and I love having a place to both promote my clothing web site and talk about my job with people who are interested. I think that helping to off set the cost of the site by running an inexpensive gallery is a great way to go. I have told all the girls that I work with about the site because I think it helps many of them to know that others view what they do as a job that deserves the respect of being disscussed in an open and intellectual way. I hope that you are able to keep it free for the dancers because it allows for a comfortable space to review both personal and job related issues.

Again thanks for being here...
Fluffer Girl