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masarati
01-08-2004, 09:46 PM
Ladies,
I know this is Ladies only board ( I apologize), but something Bridgette said reminded me of a terrible incident that happened to my friend and I when I took her in for a routine appointment.

her doctor also preformed abortions. There was a protest outside his office and we were attempting to enter the office when the protestors (including a priest) swarmed us and began showing her pictures and screaming nasty things at us all the while we are trying to explain that we were ther only for a check up needlees to say my friend broke down into tears and I was pissed as hell that they Assumed we were there for an abortion made her cry and swarmed us trying to prevent us from entering the building. after ten minutes we pushed our way into the building I calmed her down and she went to her appointment. I couldn't believe a priest was screaming at us and saying such foul things.

VenusGoddess
01-10-2004, 01:57 PM
I'm sorry but, I believe I've read a couple of times on this thread that Trouble has made up her mind as to what she plans to do. I think it's awfully insensitive at this stage in the game to keep drilling her to "re-evaluate" about the decision she's made. She stated that she's looking for practical information at this point not advice.


Foxee, you are right...I didn't read every single response in the section (there were a lot of them). I wasn't implying that she should "re-evalute" her decision, either. I was merely suggesting that she be clear as to why she chose what she did if she is second-guessing herself. I only suggested that because I had a friend who made a split-second decision based on finances and relationship status, only to have the procedure done and the other situations improve shortly thereafter. She was extremely depressed and really beat herself up for a long time after that (she still does after 6 years). I think the more clear you are about what you are doing, the better you can handle any "issues" that may come up later.

Trouble, I apologize if my post came off as "re-evaluate" your decision because it is not right. That is not what I intended...

As for information...I am not sure where you live, but there are a lot of "family assistance" programs for families that find themselves in difficult situations. There are also lots of places listed in the yellow pages. Have you tried contacting them? Also, please be sure to find a doctor that you feel confident in. If you have any qualms with a person or place, please respect that and find another place. Last, make sure that you have help with taking care of your daughter for at least the first two days afterwards. Good luck...I know that everything will work out for you!

blackbeauty
01-10-2004, 02:36 PM
I have tried to stay out of this thread so far for days, and now today I have finally read what you ladies and gents have been posting. This is a very difficult time for this girl right now and some of you are being very insensitive and just plain mean imo. Here's my story in August of 1999, a month before I turned 17 I found out I was pregnant. Whew, I was frightened! I did research and I didn't tell my mother. I went to the clinic and there were protesters outside handing out flyers, I threw that shit away. Why? B/c Fuck them I'm dealing with a lot in my life right now and when this baby comes you won't help me financially with it. So, my advise tell them to kiss your a**. Went in waited for hours, it was packed with women of all different walks of life and races. Some crying, some just fine. Had to go through couseling before. Couldn't eat before the procedure and had to take out any rings in your body. The doctor and nurses were extremely kind. I was put to sleep and it took no more than 3-5 minutes. Afterwards, I hade crackers and juice and I had to have someone pick me up before I could leave. I experienced no pain. I did throw up after the procedure though. I cried afterwards b/c of the would've, could've, should've's but I don't regret it. I had a few cramps and you will bleed for like 2 weeks, you can't wear tampons, only maxi-pads and if you have bloodclots bigger than a quarter call the doctor. That year almost all of my friends had abortions. I went to private school and we were headed to college. After our parents paid so much for us to go to school, it was kind of hard to tell them. My mom had me at 20, and ingrained in my head don;t get pregnant young. I felt bad, I couldn't tell her. The baby's father was 28! I was almost 17. How would that look? Sweetie do what's best for you. I was raised in church and I went to Catholic school for 12 years, and I learned that God forgives, no sin is greater than the next. So, yeah I did something that was considered bad to some but if people are so worried about God, why are you judging? To some that is wrong. Everyone has to do what;s best for them, if people judge you, so what? F*ck em, they don't take care of you, they are permeating your life with negativity. I support whatever you do, take care of yourself, I've been there too, you'll be okay.

Trouble
01-10-2004, 06:46 PM
Just an update..
I am scheduled to do the procedure on wednesday and thursday. supposedly after 12 weeks(i am 12 weeks 3 days) it is a two day thing. I found out that i cannot be asleep for the procedure, which is going to make it all the more worse i think. When i went in for an ultrasound, there were women standing out front...yelling come over here..dont go in there please...etc with pictures of fetus' im guessing, i didnt get close enough to look, didnt want to. i guess the first day you go in and they insert seaweed into your uterus, then the next day you do the surgery. yes i am scared to death..but will deal with it i guess.
Blackbeauty, thank you for posting that, it made me feel 10 million times better......actually u did more than that but you can see what im saying. Venus..thanks for your suggestions, but you know ive been there done that with the family assistance, even if i were to go that route(which was the plan a month ago when neither of us had a job) we wouldnt qualify, unless my boy quite his job. whats the point in that? we would still be broke as all hell. and have to deal with all the bullshit loops they make you jump through. thanks but ill pass.
right now i think im just scared that this is going to hurt so badly. anyone had this done at 12 weeks, and the same procedure, while awake? supposedly they give you demerol, and two other things, which they said is a "twilight medication" although they made it clear they dont call it that.(why?) ugh..at the ultrasound there were flowers and butterflies painted on the ceiling, yea like thats going to distract you. whatever. if anything it made me think more about what they were going to do.

seraya
01-11-2004, 06:33 AM
Hi trouble i think my friend was awake infact i'm preety sure she was but i will double check today and PM you with all the info....

Best wishes honey....Seraya.

Lilith
01-11-2004, 12:11 PM
Demerol is a narcotic ( a very nice narcotic, in my experience). How high your dosage is will be the key in how effective it is, and I wouldn't count on them, giving you a generous dose (they watch the overhead and all that) but you should be able to count upon an adequate dose. You will feel quite high. You'll be awake and probably feel most of it, but you just won't care. It's like having a headache or toothache while drunk; you are still aware of the pain, but it's rather a "pain-less" pain, if you know what I mean. You might giggle or get talkative, or you might doze in and out of sleep. It usually lasts for one to three hours (depending upon dosage) with no ill effects.

Most people have trouble recalling what happened when on demerol (or the generic version, staydol). Again, it's like being good and drunk or really high; you may have a vague recollection of what went on, but the details are fuzzy at best or gone entirely. That is why they call it "twilight sleep", because it's like trying to recall a dream.

SadieNIN
01-11-2004, 01:42 PM
I was 15 years old and 6 weeks along. Really wasn't a bad experience (not exactly cheery though). Each person's pain threshold is different-- I could feel some cramping type pain, but I was given twilight drugs, so I was pretty out of it.
Be sure to follow all the directions they give you. I had no complications, except for when I took Depo Provera 6 weeks later, which has royally screwed things up since.
The IV med they gave me was vercet or something. Helped a lot. Somes pills too (can't really remember).

Juliette_deSade
01-11-2004, 02:14 PM
Hi I posted a reply on this....was it removed?

Bridgette
01-11-2004, 04:34 PM
Trouble where did you wind up going? I'm just wondering what kind of clinic it is and if you checked all the options in your area. It is best for you to get it done sooner rather than later, but maybe there are other options in your area, where they will use different methods that may be easier on you? Did you check with Planned Parenthood like I suggested? I don't know what state you're in, and I know every state has different regulations on abortion procedures, but putting seaweed in your uterus sounds weird. Perhaps if you post your state/area someone here can point you to other alternatives for service....

Trouble
01-11-2004, 05:31 PM
actually it is at a planned parenthood. i looked awhile back for other clinics here , but with no luck. there is one, but i think it was closed down recently. the seaweed is to open up the cervix i believe, maybe im remembering it wrong. they said it would also help with pain during surgery. wierd i know, but ive also heard about this seaweed thing from another person who got an abortion at about 4 months along. bleh.

Lilith
01-12-2004, 01:15 AM
The "seaweed" is called laminaria.

Trouble, if you are uncomfortable with the described procedure then I highly urge you to look elsewhere. Even if it is a bit of a drive. Hell, if you're in FL then give me a buzz and I'll drive you.

Bridgette
01-12-2004, 01:40 AM
Yes I agree. Surely there are other options if you are not comfortable with the procedure they are offering.

foxee555
01-12-2004, 04:23 AM
Hey Trouble. Just wanted to say I'm glad things are coming along for you. I had the same type of procedure as yours, and I'm here to tell the tale so I'm sure you'll do fine. If they're giving you Demerol, you'll be all aces. That was the only thing about my procedure that sucked (other than rude staff), they gave me NOTHING. Anyway, twightlight gets you pretty out of it, so it's unlikely you'll have any memories of the actual procedure. I wish you all the best sweetie!
:)Lydia

foxee555
01-12-2004, 04:27 AM
Hey girls, I just saw the posts prior to mine. Unfortunately, that is the only option once you've reached the second trimester. But, it sounds like her doctors go about it as humanely as possible, as it is a more invasive procedure. I've had one, and there are other girls here that have. I'm sure she'll be just fine.

Lilith
01-12-2004, 02:20 PM
No, it isn't. There's Cervasix, laminaria with a one-day procedure and the doctors who don't consider 12 weeks to be the second trimester and thus go the traditional D&C. Being that I am not a medical professional, there are likely even more options than that of which I am unaware.

Bridgette
01-12-2004, 03:49 PM
Yeah, I read on the Planned Parenthood site that some clinics DO offer general anaesthesia for that type of procedure. I think many may just SAY twilight is the only option available because that is all THEY offer, likely because general anaesthetic is more expensive. Ask ask ask. Research. There are options, and you can't always take the word of someone in one clinic. They don't always give you ALL the information.

Trouble
01-14-2004, 12:48 PM
HI ladies. i went in for the first part of the procedure today. i never want to have to do this again. i passed out twice before i even got in the waiting room(that never happens to me) hit my head once, recovered from that, was able to hand the receptionist my id and hear her say are you okay? then i woke up with 3 doctors around me asking me questions, with a cold towel wrapped around my neck. i dont know why i passed out, but it started when i heard the protesters out front again. i am very nervous about what is going to happen tomarrow. i didnt expect these seaweed sticks to hurt so much. as of now im doing okay, i only cried a little right after it was done, and on my way to the car. not in a lot of pain right now. im sure tomarrow will be quite different though. the stupid doctor came in with my chart and had it wide open, so i saw the ultrasound........made the whole thing all the more worse, but i think im going to be okay. thank you ladies for all of your support, it really truly has helped me to get through this.

Bridgette
01-14-2004, 01:43 PM
Trouble you'll get through it. I think you're a strong woman. Try to relax - I know it's hard. When I went in for mine, for the checkup the week before, they did an ultrasound and the stupid doctor was showing it to me - I was like, hey asshole, that's really not what I need to see just now! But I don't regret my decision - once it was over I was relieved more than anything else. I think you will be too. :hug:

VenusGoddess
01-14-2004, 02:08 PM
Ugh...those protestors! Don't they realize that they are only making things worse???

The whole passing out thing, though...it is probably because you are not to eat before the procedure...and then you are nervous about the procedure...and, I know in my 2nd trimester, I got light-headed sometimes (body makes more blood). So, what you are experiencing is completely normal.

Just ignore those protestors...they do not know what is best for you at this time...only you know that. You need to do what is best for you and your family...just remember that.

We're all here for you...take a deep breath and relax. Everything is going to work out just fine.

Love and hugs,
Venus

Lexi
01-14-2004, 03:11 PM
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darkness
01-24-2004, 01:47 PM
it happens,i had one done by the pill. no pain,but i will warn you: the women that work at these clinics are very unsympthetic

bambiblue
01-24-2004, 05:06 PM
Good luck sweetie.... this is a very loving act even though I am sure it probably is tearing you up inside. I am studying to be a child psychologist, and there are so many kids out there that are neglected, abused, and abandoned..... our foster care systems are full of them. I never had an abortion, but I did miscarriage a child..... and as mean as it sounds, it is the best thing that could have happened at the time. I was broke, emotionally unfit, and still a kid myself in so many ways. Your child that is a live now should be your main concern, you definately have my support and my prayers for a speedy recovery.

Miss_Eliza
02-07-2004, 06:36 PM
Dear Trouble,
How are you feeling now?I hope every thing went well.
When you are ready let us know how you are doing.
Wishing you and your daughter the best.

Lexi
02-07-2004, 10:17 PM
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seraya
02-08-2004, 09:01 AM
I got a PM form trouble a lil while ago and she seemed to be doing ok....

Seraya.

TiNi
02-08-2004, 01:00 PM
I been though this too. So Trouble and all the others I am here to show my support. I dont want really tell my story cause I still hurts me to this day. I have 2 beautiful boys and my 3 child I dont know whether it's a boy or girl I named Angel. My situation is based on health reasons.