View Full Version : Janet topless for halftime
Pumpkin Pie
02-03-2004, 11:25 AM
should be good for an extra million or two on her next tour and album !
Or several times that as she's taken all the blame and thus let MTV and CBS off the hook. I wouldn't be surprised she got herself some sweet deal from those two networks for doing that. I'd bet that both the MTV and CBS brass not only knew about it but endorsed the idea. And that includes Janet taking the heat for it afterwards. But she's no martyr ... just the convenient scapegoat. For it's not as if her celebrity status was hurt in the slightest by the stunt and she and her people would have known it would generate a lot of publicity. And there was probably little else they could think up that would cause such an uproar. Afterall, French kissing another woman on stage is so yesterday now. *laugh*
Farrah_Holiday
02-03-2004, 01:00 PM
Her breast didn't get that much actual airtime..
We were all like "huh ?" Most of the crowd was in shock, just like the viewers at home were.
I don't agree that the star is a pastie..her nipple ring is the first thing I saw and the star doesn't cover the aureola (ms)..Thats just my opinion..
Janet has been my girl for many years and will continue to be. (I am speaking from a fan's point of view)
I wasn't too happy with the overall halftime show. It was too rushed..
Just my views..
bye,
Farrah
Farrah_Holiday
02-03-2004, 01:03 PM
Janet is beautiful..thanks for the link
its a RING people... lol
We can call it a pastie I guess, but if u see the pic, u can see the barbel and the sheild. They probably tried to pull a "britney/madonna" but it got worse publicity than they thought.
whatever haha
Though HAD IT BEEN all positive reviews like, "janet and justin make a great half time show" they would have probably NEVER said it was an accident. They would have probably said, "Yes, and it was a last minute thing that we perfected!!"
::)
carmenNYC
02-03-2004, 08:57 PM
in the paper today it said that CBS is going to try and ban janet and justin from attending the grammys- CBS hosts the grammys as well- take a look:
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/17203.htm
Farrah_Holiday
02-03-2004, 10:31 PM
I would be so shocked if CBS actually pulled that one off..
On another note..my little 7 yr. old niece told me that the kids in her class are talking about Janet's breast..They have even exchanged web links. I am so torn on this subject. In this country we see so much violence before the age of 7 but, we frown upon nudity..
SexyBooty
02-03-2004, 11:06 PM
oh its just a breast...
People who actually call a station and complain are soooo fu**ed up!
WHO CARES!
I will admit that knowing how crazy and prudish many family types are they knew they were in for trouble if it were in fact intentional.
And I agree that the halftime show was rushed but they tried to squeeze too much into a short span of time.
People need to stop being so prudish when it comes to their kids and maybe kids wouldn't make such a big deal out of sex. I'm tired of these parents who were always partying when they were young acting all high and mighty now that they have families.
I wish those kinds of people would fall off the face of the earth.
Gatsby
02-04-2004, 12:41 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body, but this wasn't the time or the place to push this.
Pumpkin Pie
02-04-2004, 01:01 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body, but this wasn't the time or the place to push this.
When would be the time and place? Who determines that time and place?
lestat1
02-04-2004, 01:05 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body, but this wasn't the time or the place to push this.
When would be the time and place? Who determines that time and place?
A time and place where kids are not found. Adults who can each determine for themselves what they do or do not want to watch.
Pumpkin Pie
02-04-2004, 01:10 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body, but this wasn't the time or the place to push this.
When would be the time and place? Who determines that time and place?
A time and place where kids are not found. Adults who can each determine for themselves what they do or do not want to watch.
So naked breasts should not be seen by children? Do you think seeing a naked breast hurts a child?
seraya
02-04-2004, 08:56 AM
I have to admit myself and others here were shocked at the outrage in the states.....
But i learned just recently that we are a lot more open when it comes to nudity in the UK from my friends who came here from NJ and nearly had a heart attack when they watched our TV programms and saw our topless page 3 models in the newspapers... ( topless page 3 models in a thong is an old tradition here in the UK.... they are models who pose for on page 3 of a couple of well know papers here i e.THE SUN and Daily Star )
.... Also as long as its after the 9pm slot they can show whatever they like here on tv.... d**ks, tits, pu**y, foul language, soft porn ( no penetration or erect uh hmm ) yes on TV.
But i have to agree with lestat on this one there is a time and a place.... its not just the fact of children seeing one boob... but the show was suppossed to be about entertainment and i wouldn't want little girls thinking its ok to to flash ya tits cos JJ did it.
I don't have a serious issue with it but parents should be able to determine for themselves what is acceptable for their kids to watch and in this instance their was no warning.
But hey still LOVE janet!
Seraya.
Melonie
02-04-2004, 10:06 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body
Be careful what you wish for. It's only the fact that American society still has taboos over nudity which makes it possible for us to earn a living as exotic dancers. If you look at the club scene in europe, where nudity itself is considered no big deal, you'll find hostess clubs which only employ the "best of the best" girls in terms of looks, personalities and dancing skills (and I'm talking 10 years of ballet training type dancing skills) as the only form of zero/low contact clubs. You'll also find sex clubs where live sex shows are presented on stage and where sex for money with customers is the basis of the business. What you won't find for the most part are US style clubs where it's possible for "less than perfect" girls without formal dance training to earn decent money without offering to perform sex acts on stage or with customers.
lestat1
02-04-2004, 10:34 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body, but this wasn't the time or the place to push this.
When would be the time and place? Who determines that time and place?
A time and place where kids are not found. Adults who can each determine for themselves what they do or do not want to watch.
So naked breasts should not be seen by children? Do you think seeing a naked breast hurts a child?
Pretty much (I'm sure an infant may catch a stray nipple or two while feeding, but won't remember it anyway). I have no idea what the effect of being exposed to nudity is on a child. Plenty of cultures don't have the conservatism that ours does; but I'd rather not experiment with the well-being of children in order to find out. It also could be difficult to make the argument that breasts are okay but other genitailia is not.
Pumpkin Pie
02-04-2004, 10:35 AM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body
Be careful what you wish for. It's only the fact that American society still has taboos over nudity which makes it possible for us to earn a living as exotic dancers. If you look at the club scene in europe, where nudity itself is considered no big deal, you'll find hostess clubs which only employ the "best of the best" girls in terms of looks, personalities and dancing skills (and I'm talking 10 years of ballet training type dancing skills) as the only form of zero/low contact clubs. You'll also find sex clubs where live sex shows are presented on stage and where sex for money with customers is the basis of the business. What you won't find for the most part are US style clubs where it's possible for "less than perfect" girls without formal dance training to earn decent money without offering to perform sex acts on stage or with customers.
I totally agree that the more public acceptance of the human body would be damaging for exotic dancers. In fact, if I was the owner of a large chain of strip clubs, I'd allocate a percentage of my revenue to be donated to organizations that would want to further restrict public nudity. Any beach community organization that wanted to outlaw thong bikinis, I'd donate to. Organizations opposed to any form of sex or sexual expression on television, I'd donate to.
I always thought that organized crime shot itself in the foot when it didn't fund the prohibitionist organizations to keep alcohol illegal in the US. Think what a mere couple million dollars back then would have meant to such anti-alcohol organizations. Personally, today if I was organized crime, I'd help fund organizations that want to greatly increase taxation of cigarettes (thus making it profitable to smuggle them in from outside the US), alcohol (same reason), and contribute to any anti-drug politician that's running for office or candidate that's running against a decriminalization of illegal drugs politician (such as US House Representative Ron Paul of Texas).
On the other hand, being a libertarian, I don't think any of the above would be good for society either in the short or long term.
Pumpkin Pie
02-04-2004, 12:08 PM
I agree with most of these posts. I think this country needs to be more open to the human body, but this wasn't the time or the place to push this.
When would be the time and place? Who determines that time and place?
A time and place where kids are not found. Adults who can each determine for themselves what they do or do not want to watch.
So naked breasts should not be seen by children? Do you think seeing a naked breast hurts a child?
Pretty much (I'm sure an infant may catch a stray nipple or two while feeding, but won't remember it anyway). I have no idea what the effect of being exposed to nudity is on a child. Plenty of cultures don't have the conservatism that ours does; but I'd rather not experiment with the well-being of children in order to find out. It also could be difficult to make the argument that breasts are okay but other genitailia is not.
Children are only damaged by nudity if the adults around them impress upon the children that seeing nudity is wrong and that the naked body is something that is bad.
Remember the 80's when the big "crisis" was children getting all freaked out about nuclear war and anti-nuke activists campaigning that this is one of the reasons that nukes should be done away with? The psychology community eventually came out and pointed the blame for the freaked-out kids not on nuclear weapons but on their parents. The parents freaked out their kids. Little kids have no conception of nuclear weapons. It is too complex of a concept for them. If you think they can, ask any second-grader how far away is their state's capital. Then ask them how far away is the national capital. Then ask them how far away is Paris. The answer you'll get from the second-grader is usually 100 miles for all of three questions. That's as far of a distance as second-graders can conceive of at that age without parroting an answer they've heard before. Children have very limited conceptual abilities and how they cope with this limitation is by simply being copycats of the adults they regularly deal with and trust.
Children are not affected by nudity if the adults around them don't make a big deal about it. Studies of children raised in nudist colonies here the US has long proven this. Children are reflective of adults. Children NEVER play as us adults think they do. What we consider to be "play" is deadly serious business for children. When girls "play" house, they're serious about it. Just try to do something silly with their tea set and the girls will be very upset with you. Same thing with boys playing "cops and robbers". If one of them shoots you and you don't play dead, they'll get very upset about it. Children use "play" to try to be adults and their "play" is reflective of the adult world they see. Children's "play" is quite literally one of the ways children mentally mature themselves. It's how children help themselves grow up. And us adults greatly influence how children perceive their world and how they react to it. The children observe us and then internalize our reactions as theirs and make them ingrained. They do this so they can more quickly and, in their minds, effectively deal with the chaotic outside world.
So if you don't want to traumatize your child when it comes to nudity, don't freak out when you see it. Even if you're freaked-out inside, if you don't show that on the outside, your child won't assimulate your warped view of nudity and accept it as normal.