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Pumpkin Pie
02-12-2004, 10:23 PM
PP,
Actually I am the only vegetarian in my family.
When I was younger my family lived in India and my father toyed with becoming a vegetarian. I have tried meat before I don't like it.

When did you know that you didn't like meat? How young? I'm assuming you were fed meat when you were young ... or were you?

Rayleen
02-12-2004, 11:03 PM
I could never be a vegetarian;my body craves meat and fish; in the more rare state as well ~ like sushi . And what is in red meat, is it iron? Maybe I am enemic or something
... that's low iron right? Anyway back to carbs. I like complex carbs they make feel better, I use whole grain pasta and breads. My man is into the old plain white bread- like Wonder bread- LOL! But I care to much about his health to feed him that :) well every now and again 'cause he likes it but not all the time.

I don't do diets really I believe in sweat :bouncey:

and that your body will tell you what it needs if you listen.
:hungry:

Farrah_Holiday
02-13-2004, 12:39 AM
. i just know i AM obese and that this is working. and since i started on feb 1st at 277 and am now 263 im gonna keep going! i also know i will level out at some time but for now im impressed. and i need all the support i can get!

wfb!


Good for you WFB :great:You're a :10:

foxee555
02-13-2004, 12:51 AM
Back to the original subject, I've read in Shape and Fitness that those "low-carb" substitutes for items such as bread and pasta do not have the nutritonal merits to offset the price and taste. It's just another example of a money scam playing into a media frenzy (the low carb craze). Remember the "light" versions of everyhting in the late 80's early 90's? They just loaded the products with sugar to make up for the lack of taste with reduced or no fat. Obviously not all it's cracked up to be. As far as eating pasta it's all about portion control. It's not the devil for god's sake! Millions of italians and asians have eaten it for centuries and they aren't all obese. And as far as bread, there are healthy and delicious alternatives like german brown bread. It's dense and grainy (great for digestion) and very flavorful (though an aquired taste for some).
Eating healthy isn't as difficult as it's made out to be. There are no quick fixes and no substitute for excercise.

WFT- I know you mentioned that excercise was difficult for you due to injury. Have you heard of Winsor Pilates? It's pretty inexpensive for the DVD's and it's a great lowimpact exercise for people of all fitness levels. (and no guys, pilates isn't just for girls! ;D)

Madcap
02-13-2004, 12:58 AM
I'd rather just have sex.

:)

shedevil4260
02-13-2004, 02:30 AM
As Paris Hilton says "Fat people drink Diet Coke"... :P

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 03:40 AM
As Paris Hilton says "Fat people drink Diet Coke"... :P


That is so true ... which is amazing given its source. ::)

wasfatboy
02-13-2004, 06:36 AM
:no: i dont drink diet coke? :yuck: :sarcastic: or any other pop right now! water, water, and more water. and also water!

and yes i have heard of pilates, thoight about it, but just decided to go to gym and work thru pain slowly.(ok it a macho manly thing and im dumb) i had to just decide to do it. its not a lot at the moment 20 min on the recumbant bike at level 3 and 20 mins on the tread mill at 3 mph but im working all cardio, and am seeing an increase,(i started at 1mph for 10 min, and level 1 for 10min). my bestest friend in the world is that hot tub afterwards, thats my treat! i just keep telling myself no matter how bad im burning or hurt, just alittle bit more then i can soak in the hot tub for an hour! best $50 a month i have ever spent!

oh and mc, i rather just have sex too but being obese sort of puts a damper on that! (something about being able to see it to use it?) besides the ladies dont usually go for the fat guys for some reason......hmmmmmm.

wfb.........gettin smaller every day!

ami
02-13-2004, 08:23 AM
vegitarianism is NOT BAD for you.

Yes, it is. Not a single medical or dietitian association recommends a veggie diet.


did you miss this?




"There's been a remarkable increase in intrest [among reasearchers] in high-fiber, low-fat diets, and [healthful] vegiatarian diets are by defintion high-fiber and low-fat," says Suzanne Havala, a registerd dietitian and co-auther of the American Dietetic Association 1988 and 1993 position papers on vegetarianism. ....





the only vitamin you can not get from a vegitarian diet is b12. easily gotten from pills. or ceral, or pasta, or anything fortified. (like the carnation instant breakfast I mentioned before).

As I stated before, it isn't just vitamins but trace quantities of various minerals that your body needs and can only get from meats.

like what? and where did the animal get the trace minerals if you can't get them from plants? B12 is in meat because it is produced by bacteria in the fleash of the animal.




but really (imo) fiber is the key. omnivore is fine, as long as there is lots of fiber. its easier to get fiber on a vegitarian diet as you can combine it into everything. there is no fiber in a steak.

And there's no protein in vegetables. Nor is there water in space or ice in the center of the sun.

Meat is about protein, vitamins, and important trace minerals.

unless you are eating rocks there is protein in what you eat. what is protein? DNA! how did that plant grow without DNA? check your lables.




drinking juice and water instead of pop is also a good idea.

If your tastebuds tell you that they want something sweet, gets some sweets. You'll only piss off your body if you do otherwise and it will get its revenge.

However, I do agree with you that water is good to drink. When you're thirty, don't get a soda. Your body isn't asking for a soda. It's asking for water. Give it water.


I do eat sweets, not many though. My mom raised me on junk food, pop, and hamburger. (yuck). I have a few chocolates that she gave me here at the house. I have been eating about 3-5 a week. Plus juice is sweet (frucose). and its better for you then white sugar (sucrose). I give my body whatever it askes for. I always give into food craveings.

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madcap: i agree, i hate being preached to about anything, but I will always defend my stance. you can eat meat if you want to. I am not gonna stop you. hell I didnt even stop my husband.
I also agree with you on the just having sex thing. sex is fun and good exersize.

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author=Rayanna
Posted on: Today at 01:03:15am
I could never be a vegetarian;my body craves meat and fish; in the more rare state as well ~ like sushi . And what is in red meat, is it iron? Maybe I am enemic or something

then don't. eat meat. to me you are a "real" meat eater. my definition of a real meat eater is at least two of the following:
1 can kill thier own dinner
2 can cook thier own meat
3 likes rare or raw meat
4 craves meat a lot

my mom fits 2 and 4. I don't fit any. few people anymore fit 1.

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 10:33 AM
:no: i dont drink diet coke? :yuck: :sarcastic: or any other pop right now! water, water, and more water. and also water!

That's good to hear. :smiley:


and yes i have heard of pilates, thoight about it, but just decided to go to gym and work thru pain slowly.(ok it a macho manly thing and im dumb) i had to just decide to do it.

*laugh* I hear ya. When I had my second car accident (my luck, the injury from it was the same as the first one :irked: ), they had me do warm pool aerobatics. I could only do it a few times. Everyone in the pool was older than my mom. :geezer: *laugh* However...

WFB, if your gym has a pilates class, it will be packed with women your age range. :wink: Lots of opportunities there to mingle then. I know of a lot of guys that do aerobatic classes not for the health benefits, but for the date potentials. And once they've dated all they like in a class, they drop it and go to another class. "Work schedule problems" is the reason they give for the need to change classes. Yeah, right. ::)


its not a lot at the moment 20 min on the recumbant bike at level 3 and 20 mins on the tread mill at 3 mph but im working all cardio, and am seeing an increase,(i started at 1mph for 10 min, and level 1 for 10min).

Try to add another twenty minutes to your workout and get a heart monitor. Using it, you'll find your heart range where you burn fat. The first twenty minutes, you'll burn 100% carbs. Second twenty minutes, you'll burn 50% carbs and 50% fat. The third twenty minutes and all the time you go past that, you'll burn 100% fat. Just don't let your heart settle down when switching between machines.

And working on a variety of machines is a really good idea. Psychologically, you'll end up less bored and won't grumble when you approach a machine. You'll think "Just fifteen minutes on this puppy and I'm onto the next." Physically, what you'll be doing is cross-training. That means you'll be exercising your muscles in different ways which is good for them and if you give thought to the machines you use, you'll exercise different muscle groups. My cardio work-out (four days a week) has me alternate between five machines: treadmill, recumbent bike (due to the lower back double-hit injury), row machine (great for your lats, abs, and shoulders), nordic track (good for your abs [saying you do it right] and arms), and one of those funky machines that's a cross between a stairmaster and a nordic track. And once a week I do 15 on a stairmaster for variety, but no more since stairmasters are really bad for your knees if you use them too much.

And if you use a heartmonitor while exercising on these machines, you'll seem like you're going at a snail's pace in comparison to everyone else. That's fine. They're doing it wrong and you're not. The ones that race on those stairmasters are just burning carbs and nothing else. They exhaust themselves out. Whereas you'll be burning fat ... which is what those others think they're doing. On the bright side, you'll get compliments from the gym staff if they're an educated bunch. I get this all the time from the gym staff. They compliment in a loud voice so all the racers around me hear them and maybe ... just maybe pick up the hint to slow down if they're there to lose fat.


my bestest friend in the world is that hot tub afterwards, thats my treat! i just keep telling myself no matter how bad im burning or hurt, just alittle bit more then i can soak in the hot tub for an hour! best $50 a month i have ever spent!

If you got the dough, treat yourself to a sports massage after a work-out ever so often ... or, if you got a lot of money, everytime. You'll get a lot more out of them than the hot tub. And while it is tempting to get that massage from the hottest babe masseuse in the gym, she might not have enough hand strength to really work your big muscles. Besides, a sports massage is anything but sensual. If you're really as big as you say you are, get the masseur that looks like he can snap you in two. You'll get more out of the sports massage if you do.

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 11:25 AM
vegitarianism is NOT BAD for you.

Yes, it is. Not a single medical or dietitian association recommends a veggie diet.


did you miss this?




"There's been a remarkable increase in intrest [among reasearchers] in high-fiber, low-fat diets, and [healthful] vegiatarian diets are by defintion high-fiber and low-fat," says Suzanne Havala, a registerd dietitian and co-auther of the American Dietetic Association 1988 and 1993 position papers on vegetarianism. ....

Cute, but "interest" doesn't equal recommendation. The scientific community can be interested in a lot of things. Both things that they think are good and things they think are bad. And that's all it means.







the only vitamin you can not get from a vegitarian diet is b12. easily gotten from pills. or ceral, or pasta, or anything fortified. (like the carnation instant breakfast I mentioned before).

As I stated before, it isn't just vitamins but trace quantities of various minerals that your body needs and can only get from meats.

like what? and where did the animal get the trace minerals if you can't get them from plants? B12 is in meat because it is produced by bacteria in the fleash of the animal.

And no multi-vitaman/mineral supplement gives you all the trace minerals that are in meat. And our digestive system is designed to get this from meat and not plants. This is why we don't have several stomachs like cows, goats, etc. do. We let them do the processing of plants and then we process them.






but really (imo) fiber is the key. omnivore is fine, as long as there is lots of fiber. its easier to get fiber on a vegitarian diet as you can combine it into everything. there is no fiber in a steak.

And there's no protein in vegetables. Nor is there water in space or ice in the center of the sun.

Meat is about protein, vitamins, and important trace minerals.

unless you are eating rocks there is protein in what you eat. what is protein? DNA! how did that plant grow without DNA? check your lables.

You're not making any sense here. Protein isn't just DNA. By that same logic, protein is atoms.





author=Rayanna
Posted on: Today at 01:03:15am
I could never be a vegetarian;my body craves meat and fish; in the more rare state as well ~ like sushi . And what is in red meat, is it iron? Maybe I am enemic or something

then don't. eat meat. to me you are a "real" meat eater. my definition of a real meat eater is at least two of the following:
1 can kill thier own dinner
2 can cook thier own meat
3 likes rare or raw meat
4 craves meat a lot

my mom fits 2 and 4. I don't fit any. few people anymore fit 1.


Ugh. :yuck: The above sounds just like the immature debating tactics that agenda vegetarians always like to use.

Farrah_Holiday
02-13-2004, 11:36 AM
PP,
Actually I am the only vegetarian in my family.
When I was younger my family lived in India and my father toyed with becoming a vegetarian. I have tried meat before I don't like it.

When did you know that you didn't like meat? How young? I'm assuming you were fed meat when you were young ... or were you?


Yeah they would try to give it to me and I would toss it under the table..lol.. or hide it in a napkin.
I was just too hard to chew..yuck!! and tasted to meaty, fleshy,yuck !
I think that was around the age of 5 or 6. Everyone else eats meats, I don't judge them and they don't judge me. When ever I go out I always find something to eat on the menu and most restaurants will modify items for you if you ask.

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 12:35 PM
PP,
Actually I am the only vegetarian in my family.
When I was younger my family lived in India and my father toyed with becoming a vegetarian. I have tried meat before I don't like it.

When did you know that you didn't like meat? How young? I'm assuming you were fed meat when you were young ... or were you?

Yeah they would try to give it to me and I would toss it under the table..lol.. or hide it in a napkin.
I was just too hard to chew..yuck!! and tasted to meaty, fleshy,yuck ! I think that was around the age of 5 or 6.

Farrah, have you ever been tested to see if you have an allergy to meat? It is rare, but it does happen. By what you've said, it sounds like you might.


Everyone else eats meats, I don't judge them...

That's great to hear and makes me think even more that it might be an allergy.


When ever I go out I always find something to eat on the menu and most restaurants will modify items for you if you ask.

I have a lot of food allergies so I know the routine. After one too many visits to the emergency room, I no longer go out to eat. Last time I ended up in ER, I was read the riot act by an emergency room doctor about how this is how I'm going to die. One day the bee sting kit won't be able to do its magic fast enough and I won't be able to be rushed to the ER soon enough for my life to be saved. That kind of speech jackslaps you awake and makes you make the needed changes.

*sigh*

But I do sure miss eating out at times. Variety and someone else doing the cooking. Oh well. I'd rather live longer.

Farrah_Holiday
02-13-2004, 12:55 PM
I am allergic to fish and sea foods. I watch what I eat very closely.
I have had quite a few run ins with restaurants this week.
When I find a place that doesn't leave me feeling sick, I frequent it a lot sometimes too much !! lol
So I can relate. I sometimes end up with flu like symptoms after eating out, which isn't fun. Its refreshing to run into someone with the same issues when it comes to food. With you being a meat eater, you should be very careful about what you order and where you eat.
There is a very good book called "Fast Food Nation" you should read it if you haven't already.
Farrah

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 01:28 PM
I am allergic to fish and sea foods.

Seriously, get tested to see if you have an allergy to other meats. The allergy tests are cheap. Heck, as you're a college student, you can probably get them for free from your college's medical clinic.


I watch what I eat very closely.

I have to read the ingredients of everything I buy from the store. I've had to do this since I was a little kid. :propeller:


I have had quite a few run ins with restaurants this week.

Until I gave up all restaurants, my common refrain was: I only give restaurants one chance to kill me.


When I find a place that doesn't leave me feeling sick, I frequent it a lot sometimes too much !! lol

*LOL* When I did eat at restaurants, I did this too. *LOL*


So I can relate. I sometimes end up with flu like symptoms after eating out, which isn't fun.

Farrah, this sounds like a food allergy. Please go and get the allergy tests done. A common thing with food allergies is that the more exposures you get of what you're allergic to, the more severe the reactions will become. My two oldest brothers now have to have bee sting kits everywhere they go. Their wives carry the kits in their purses ... due to their size and that body heat breaks them down. Their secretaries are all trained on how to administer the injections in case they enter his office and see him passed out on the floor.

Oddly, both of my parents have no food allergies and yet all four of their sons have the same ones. Just something in my brothers' and my genes that cannot handle any nut.


Its refreshing to run into someone with the same issues when it comes to food. With you being a meat eater, you should be very careful about what you order and where you eat.
There is a very good book called "Fast Food Nation" you should read it if you haven't already.

As I said in an earlier post, I do not eat at restaurants anymore. Well, almost none. The only one I can safely eat at is Prime Quarter. The restaurant where you cook your own food. I used to hate going there before I gave up all restaurants since I thought it was absolutely stupid that I pay to cook my own food. Now with no other options, it is the only place I can eat out at. But I only go there occasionally since it all the way on the other side of Madison.

Besides, it's not as if I could eat much at a restaurant. Let me illustrate. What do you have left on a menu when you eliminate any menu item that has: tomatoes, nuts, chocolate, cloves, fruit with seeds in the meat (by the way, that's what a tomato is. ;) ), and visible dairy or eggs. *laugh* *sigh* Oh well, my diet is actually a lot more healthy than most people's because of this ... but it's not by choice. :(

Farrah_Holiday
02-13-2004, 01:39 PM
Well I go to a College of Arts..so we don't have any clinics on campus. But I do have my own health insurance. I will look into getting allergy tests done. Thanks for mentioning it I would have never thought about it.
xoxoxo,
Farrah

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 02:01 PM
Well I go to a College of Arts..so we don't have any clinics on campus. But I do have my own health insurance. I will look into getting allergy tests done. Thanks for mentioning it I would have never thought about it.

You might discover that you're not allergic to some type of protein but some mineral in the meat or how it is prepared. For example, I can eat grains as long as they're not roasted. Roasting brings about a chemical change in the grains that makes them nut-like. The chemical change can almost cut my flesh like a knife. Eating toast results in the roof of my mouth getting made very raw and tender.

On the bright side, I'm probably not an alcoholic because of my allergies. Roasted hops made beer taste awful to me. Wines being made from grapes made them taste likewise for me too. :P Coming from a home of a functional alcoholic and having brothers who are recovering alcoholics, my allergies might have enabled me to dodge that nasty bullet. ;D

Oh, and when you go in and tell them about your reactions to meats, they'll adjust the allergy tests accordingly. You don't want to be tested for everything as it would take forever to do that.

Good luck with the allergy tests! Let us know how they went. :)

Lexi
02-13-2004, 02:13 PM
author=Rayanna
Posted on: Today at 01:03:15am
I could never be a vegetarian;my body craves meat and fish; in the more rare state as well ~ like sushi . And what is in red meat, is it iron? Maybe I am enemic or something

then don't. eat meat. to me you are a "real" meat eater. my definition of a real meat eater is at least two of the following:
1 can kill thier own dinner
2 can cook thier own meat
3 likes rare or raw meat
4 craves meat a lot

my mom fits 2 and 4. I don't fit any. few people anymore fit 1.




A real meat eater only does 2 of the following? lol Ok so because I dont either kill my meat and eat it I'm not considered a real meat eater? I dont "Crave" meat a lot, and I dont like meat raw or rare, I DO cook my own meat, but again, I dont ever hunt it. SO what does that make me? A wannabe? LOL ;D

So would it be safe if I say, that your not a real veggie if you dont go and pick your own plants? :P ::) (hey unless you have a garden, then I'll retract my statements) lol

Im just playing with ya hun, but I'm a meat eater and only do one of the things you posted.

Farrah_Holiday
02-13-2004, 02:40 PM
So would it be safe if I say, that your not a real veggie if you dont go and pick your own plants? :P ::) (hey unless you have a garden, then I'll retract my statements) lol

Im just playing with ya hun, but I'm a meat eater and only do one of the things you posted.


:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I am a vegetarian who can appreciate a good joke..lol

Lexi
02-13-2004, 02:43 PM
Farrah lol its all in good humor :rotfl:

Farrah_Holiday
02-13-2004, 02:53 PM
You might discover that you're not allergic to some type of protein but some mineral in the meat or how it is prepared. For example, I can eat grains as long as they're not roasted. Roasting brings about a chemical change in the grains that makes them nut-like. The chemical change can almost cut my flesh like a knife. Eating toast results in the roof of my mouth getting made very raw and tender.

On the bright side, I'm probably not an alcoholic because of my allergies. Roasted hops made beer taste awful to me. Wines being made from grapes made them taste likewise for me too. :P Coming from a home of a functional alcoholic and having brothers who are recovering alcoholics, my allergies might have enabled me to dodge that nasty bullet. ;D

Oh, and when you go in and tell them about your reactions to meats, they'll adjust the allergy tests accordingly. You don't want to be tested for everything as it would take forever to do that.

Good luck with the allergy tests! Let us know how they went. :)


That makes sense too I am also lactose intolerant..

it seems like your allergies were a good thing, when it comes to preventing you from becoming an alcoholic.

FH

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 02:57 PM
:jester: :laughing: :rotfl: :slaphappy:

Lexi,

Yes, that's the correct counter-argument. You can even go a step further and ask if she grows her own spices and oils ... and makes her own pots to boil those veggies ... dug the well and pumps her own water ... and the list can go on and on. ;) :rotfl:

Pumpkin Pie
02-13-2004, 03:55 PM
You might discover that you're not allergic to some type of protein but some mineral in the meat or how it is prepared. For example, I can eat grains as long as they're not roasted. Roasting brings about a chemical change in the grains that makes them nut-like. The chemical change can almost cut my flesh like a knife. Eating toast results in the roof of my mouth getting made very raw and tender.

On the bright side, I'm probably not an alcoholic because of my allergies. Roasted hops made beer taste awful to me. Wines being made from grapes made them taste likewise for me too. :P Coming from a home of a functional alcoholic and having brothers who are recovering alcoholics, my allergies might have enabled me to dodge that nasty bullet. ;D

Oh, and when you go in and tell them about your reactions to meats, they'll adjust the allergy tests accordingly. You don't want to be tested for everything as it would take forever to do that.

That makes sense too I am also lactose intolerant..

While I am allergic to dairy, I'm not lactose intolerant. I can process dairy just fine. I just have a food allergy to dairy. It causes ... stop reading if you gross out easily ... a mucus build-up in my sinuses. So much so that it causes a pressure build-up and thus very painful headaches. I've had headaches since as long as I can remember. My parents did everything to try to relieve me of them. Acupunture. Chiropractic treatments. Massage therapy. Even surgery! I've had three nose surgeries when I was young to try and relieve the pressure. They literally chiseled wider the bone openings of my sinuses. :yuck: All to no avail. Then...

I'm in college and my best friend at that time was from Pakistan. When I was having one of my headaches, he tells me that my symptoms are common of dairy headaches in Pakistan. All I need to do is stop eating dairy and I'll no longer have them. First, I'm also allergic to pollen, cut grass, and weeds so we naturally assumed that was causing the mucus build-up. Secondly...

I'm from WISCONSIN! Our blood here in Dairyland isn't red, but milky white. I love dairy. I love cheesecake. I love mint ice cream. I love smoked mild cheddar, colby jack, and baby swiss. I have four to six glasses of milk each meal. Give up dairy?! Why not you just tell me to give up oxygen?!

So I continue to suffer pressure headaches for two years as my friend keeps telling me each time that I just have a common ... in Arabic countries ... allergy to milk. Finally, I have a headache that is unbearable. So painful that it is undescribeable. Out of despairation, I give up dairy to never have to experience that again.

A week goes by and for the first time in my life, I can breath through both of my sinuses. I've never had a pressure headache again.

And when I go grocery shopping and pass by the dairy aile, if I'm ever tempted to get some, all I have to do is stop and take a good inhale through both of my sinuses. That is such a wonderful feeling that it makes me smile and enables me walk out of there without regret.


it seems like your allergies were a good thing, when it comes to preventing you from becoming an alcoholic.

Mixed blessing is what I call it. Glad I'm not an alcoholic, but sure wish I didn't have these food allergies. For example, going out to eat is so part of dating that not going to a restaurant on a date is always noticed by the women that have just gotten to know me. And I hate telling dates about my food allergies. It always triggers sympathy from them and they switch into protective mothering mode ... which tosses a wet blanket on passion real quick. Unfortunately, I'm also a terrible cook so offering to cook them dinner at my place to hide my food allergies doesn't always work as planned either. They try to be diplomatic about describing my dinners. *laugh* I cannot tell you how many times I've heard the adjective phrase: "Well, that was ... interesting." :ashamed:

Now don't get me wrong. I don't lie to women about my food allergies. I just don't like bringing it up as a topic of discussion after they get to know me real well. I want them to view me as a cool guy and not a charity case. So I structure the first few dates in such a way as us not needing to go to a restaurant. That's more difficult than you might first assume. *laugh*

On the bright side, I get asked over for a lot of homecooked meals. ;D Being a bachelor, those are always appreciated. And when I offer to return the favor ... *laugh* ... they find some diplomatic way of avoiding that ordeal. "Oh, but I love to cook for you." Yeah, yeah, and you also love not getting sick because someone has never quite figured out how to make pork chops properly ... or get the noodles not to clump together ... or burn crispy the hamburgers. ::)

Oh well. That's my life. :)

letsdoit69and69
02-13-2004, 07:57 PM
I once ate two whole Pappa John's Pizzas. For lunch at work I usually hit Burger King and get two double Whoppers and a king sized order of fries. I eat everything in sight and can't gain a friggin ounce.


It is because you have high metabolism. I have seen the people trying Atkins diet and it worked, but needed lot patience. It is still better than dieting or lipo.

There was time when I also could eat couple of full chickens every day and never gained weight for years.

big_daddy
02-13-2004, 09:38 PM
No wonder Atkins weighed 250 lbs and died of a fucking heart attack.

He did not die of a heart attack. He died from a blow to the head that sent him into a coma!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry if someone had already posted this I did not have time to read it all.
No I'm not on this diet . I lost 100 pounds 5 years ago eating pasta and what ever I wanted. The real trick is to eat only the suggested portions and servings sizes. 'Different strokes for different folks' you just have to find what works for you.

Lexi
02-13-2004, 09:59 PM
bigdaddy,
congrats on your weightloss. Atkins says that anyone who is determined can lose weight on a carb diet, or a calorie counting diet, or whatever. He never bad mouths other diets, but they always do so about him. Maybe because he found an easy wayfor ppl to lose weight, and not starve.
Anyway congrats!

Madcap
02-13-2004, 10:18 PM
No wonder Atkins weighed 250 lbs and died of a fucking heart attack.

He did not die of a heart attack. He died from a blow to the head that sent him into a coma!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry if someone had already posted this I did not have time to read it all.
No I'm not on this diet . I lost 100 pounds 5 years ago eating pasta and what ever I wanted. The real trick is to eat only the suggested portions and servings sizes. 'Different strokes for different folks' you just have to find what works for you.


Yeah, i know, I was tossing rocks. It was 80% goof 20% low carb stuff is nasty.

foxee555
02-16-2004, 09:51 AM
As Paris Hilton says "Fat people drink Diet Coke"... :P

And skinny rich chicks snort great blow! LOL! :hyper:

wasfatboy
02-17-2004, 09:10 AM
update!!!!!!!
i slipped on sunday, i had to have a few beers during the race!
but i still am loosing! 261 today 2/17!

im sticking to the 20 carbs or less for atleast 2 more weeks.

thanks to those for the support!

wfb

Farrah_Holiday
02-17-2004, 10:18 AM
Good for you WFB !! Keep up the good work we all have set backs the most important thing is to get up and keep going. Which you already are doing. FYI there is low carb beer now. I have heard that it taste awful. Not being a beer drinking, I wouldn't have first hand knowledge.
Oh, I also wanted to tell you about this stuff called LPP protein its by a company called Twinlab and it contains collagen. I swear by this stuff, its great for firming and toning the skin and muscles in your body. Plus each 2 tablespoon serving has 15 grams of protein and only 80 calories. If you are interested in ordering some you can find it at www.vitaminshoppe.com Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
Keep up the good work..

Farrah

seraya
02-17-2004, 08:30 PM
WFB .... your doing good hun! slip ups are natural just pick where you left off and continue!

Farrah i have read a few posts from ya where you mention LPP protein.... i have seen it in a brochure from a sports supplement company i am a memebr of. I used to take EAS betagen ( HMB and phosphagen creatine ) .... i wanted to change to a liquid creatine ( EAS creatine is a powder formula ) ...... so would really recommend LPP then?

Seraya.

shedevil4260
02-17-2004, 08:54 PM
As Paris Hilton says "Fat people drink Diet Coke"... :P

And skinny rich chicks snort great blow! LOL! :hyper:



I love it Foxee! lol ;)

Rhiannon
02-17-2004, 09:10 PM
update!!!!!!!
i slipped on sunday, i had to have a few beers during the race!
but i still am loosing! 261 today 2/17!

im sticking to the 20 carbs or less for atleast 2 more weeks.

thanks to those for the support!

wfb


:dance: Go WFB!!!! :dance:

Keep at it, Dahling.. And like Farrah and Seraya said, slips are bound to happen, but you just pick yourself back up and continue. We're all pulling for you! Keep giving us updates! :thumbsup:

Farrah_Holiday
02-17-2004, 10:37 PM
WFB .... your doing good hun! slip ups are natural just pick where you left off and continue!

Farrah i have read a few posts from ya where you mention LPP protein.... i have seen it in a brochure from a sports supplement company i am a memebr of. I used to take EAS betagen ( HMB and phosphagen creatine ) .... i wanted to change to a liquid creatine ( EAS creatine is a powder formula ) ...... so would really recommend LPP then?

Seraya.


I am an EAS girl too. I take Betagen and Cytovol..not as much as I use to but, I still use. I like the way LPP protein makes me feel. It has a variety of B vitamins, amino acids and 15 grams of protein while only containing 80 calories. The bonuses are my skin and muscle stay so firm, my ass and my breasts stay firm..my stomach and face..I LOVE this stuff. If I could only take one supplement it would be LPP !!

PM me if you want more info..