View Full Version : Why celebrate Black History month in 2004?
DancerWealth
02-20-2004, 11:01 PM
I didn't take your comments out of context..I read them for what they were. I have provided links regarding the Jews of Ethiopia, if you would've taken the time to read them, you would've seen at least proof of one African/Black civilization..I chose not to waste time trying to educate folks who decide to be close minded. My life is too short and they're are plenty of people who do WANT to learn..
I have provided more links of African/Black civilizations for those of you who do want to learn more about the world and its many histories...
Okay Farrah, just take a deep breath. :) First of all, as I had said before, I am farmilliar with what you are talking about, and I did in fact read each and every one of the links you posted. I am very happy you did post them in fact as it did expand my knowledge of the history moreso than what I knew already. Forgive me for not conceeding to you on this. You are correct. The ultimate question is, is this information being taught in any fashion during Black History Month. It's refreshing to see someone such as yourself be smart enough to already know this information, and yet you are the first person in many years to have even mentioned this to me. I find this substantially more important in black history than the infention of traffic signal. That all being said, it does get back to my point. It is substantially important to teach this in the context of world history, and even human developmental history. It's relevant, it's important, and it should be presented as being much more noteworthy than what it has been. My belief is that rather than have a "Black History Month" these things should be just taught as history, not Black history, or jewish history, or white history etc. It's history. Why not just have "History Month" and teach facts such as these as being noteworthy and often overlooked facts about human history?
DancerWealth
02-20-2004, 11:02 PM
Its rather odd that as soon as Pilbo logs off Dancer Wealth logs on..They both speak the same and both post the same links and website..
I smell a rat..I hope that I am wrong..
Oh common Farrah. Please don't insult me like that. What's next, black helicopters?
DancerWealth
02-20-2004, 11:05 PM
My point being, that a few exceptions aside, from the birth fo Christ to, say, 1900, can you name me one major civilizational movement that blacks can be credited for?
This smacks of a "do you still beat your wife question."
Can you name? Not all civilizations of the time had equal literacy. What meets your standard for say India or Asia?
Why the arbitrary dates?
One major "civlization movement" (whatever that is)
Would you name the Renaisance as a major movement? Something kept them in the dark ages for 500 years after something "major".
What if I said the information burned up in the library fire at Alexandria or was burned by the Spanish Inquisition. You could not disprove it, any more than I could prove it. Your argument is childish.
I understand about what you are saying, and now we're arguing about semantics. There were probably many civilizations that have come and gone but because we have not historical data to show they exist, we probably will never know about them. What we can do though is see evidence of their existance. The Aztecs and Mayans come to mind.
DancerWealth
02-20-2004, 11:10 PM
I am sorry you are right those po po black folks have never been able to do anything and its all the fault of the disgusting ,racist system that viewed them as no more than animals. For which you all are truly ashamed.
I find it rather funny that none of these posters have bothered to read any of links that I have provided (many of which are from accredited colleges) that tell the TRUTH of Black/African civilatizions..
I guess its true ingorance really is bliss.
Thank you for showing why Black history month is so important..
Please don't put words in my mouth. I did read all of your posts the first time around. If you really want to get down to brass tacks, I'm surprised that nobody has bothered to mention that Cleopatra was black, contrary to what Hollywood has portrayed her as.
Farrah_Holiday
02-20-2004, 11:15 PM
I didn't take your comments out of context..I read them for what they were. I have provided links regarding the Jews of Ethiopia, if you would've taken the time to read them, you would've seen at least proof of one African/Black civilization..I chose not to waste time trying to educate folks who decide to be close minded. My life is too short and they're are plenty of people who do WANT to learn..
I have provided more links of African/Black civilizations for those of you who do want to learn more about the world and its many histories...
Okay Farrah, just take a deep breath. :) First of all, as I had said before, I am farmilliar with what you are talking about, and I did in fact read each and every one of the links you posted. I am very happy you did post them in fact as it did expand my knowledge of the history moreso than what I knew already. Forgive me for not conceeding to you on this. You are correct. The ultimate question is, is this information being taught in any fashion during Black History Month. It's refreshing to see someone such as yourself be smart enough to already know this information, and yet you are the first person in many years to have even mentioned this to me. I find this substantially more important in black history than the infention of traffic signal. That all being said, it does get back to my point. It is substantially important to teach this in the context of world history, and even human developmental history. It's relevant, it's important, and it should be presented as being much more noteworthy than what it has been. My belief is that rather than have a "Black History Month" these things should be just taught as history, not Black history, or jewish history, or white history etc. It's history. Why not just have "History Month" and teach facts such as these as being noteworthy and often overlooked facts about human history?
My response was to your comment regarding Black civilizations..
I am glad you read the links I provided maybe others will too..
I am also pleased that you allowed yourself to learn something new.
Farrah_Holiday
02-20-2004, 11:19 PM
I am sorry you are right those po po black folks have never been able to do anything and its all the fault of the disgusting ,racist system that viewed them as no more than animals. For which you all are truly ashamed.
I find it rather funny that none of these posters have bothered to read any of links that I have provided (many of which are from accredited colleges) that tell the TRUTH of Black/African civilatizions..
I guess its true ingorance really is bliss.
Thank you for showing why Black history month is so important..
Please don't put words in my mouth. I did read all of your posts the first time around. If you really want to get down to brass tacks, I'm surprised that nobody has bothered to mention that Cleopatra was black, contrary to what Hollywood has portrayed her as.
Actually this response was to Pilbo. Since you are NOT Pilbo, then it wasn't intended for you. However if you chose to claim my response then so be it..
DancerWealth
02-20-2004, 11:22 PM
I am sorry you are right those po po black folks have never been able to do anything and its all the fault of the disgusting ,racist system that viewed them as no more than animals. For which you all are truly ashamed.
I find it rather funny that none of these posters have bothered to read any of links that I have provided (many of which are from accredited colleges) that tell the TRUTH of Black/African civilatizions..
I guess its true ingorance really is bliss.
Thank you for showing why Black history month is so important..
Please don't put words in my mouth. I did read all of your posts the first time around. If you really want to get down to brass tacks, I'm surprised that nobody has bothered to mention that Cleopatra was black, contrary to what Hollywood has portrayed her as.
Actually this response was to Pilbo. Since you are NOT Pilbo, then it wasn't intended for you. However if you chose to claim my response then so be it..
Okay, okay! I surrender already! :) My bad. :)
Blade
02-20-2004, 11:27 PM
Not to sound totally racist or ant-people but I'll celebrate Black History Month when it becomes aceptable for me to have a shirt that reads celtic pride or white pride! I am accused of being racist simply for my look and when i talk about pride of my celtic heritage I am accused of racism....When I say you people referring to a group of people and there is a black person in that group i am accused of racism...
I'll clue ya in to something... I'm not racist I hate everyone!People in general suck! I hope this doesnt start some anti-blade campaign,and if my words offended anyone,that was not my intention,I am simply speaking my mind.
Well.... After re-reading my original post on this thread I have realized that I am wrong in my assumption that black history month isnt important.reading thru this thread has made it perfectly clear that black histry is just as important as celtic pride....You cant go anywhere in this world without bing surronded by MANY cultures and I now see that learning about every cultures history is important.I had no idea so many things I take for granted were in fact invented by blacks(Iknew about peanut butter)In fact my dumb ass always assumed the guitar was a tool of the white man(bad attempt at humour)
Farrah_Holiday
02-20-2004, 11:42 PM
Blade I applaude you for being open to learning about the world and its people..
I for one am in awe of the world ,it's many people and all that they bring to the table. I think every race, culture and even religion should be looked at and studied. The world is such a wealth of information and beauty....
Farrah
DancerWealth
02-20-2004, 11:51 PM
Blade I applaude you for being open to learning about the world and its people..
I for one am in awe of the world ,it's many people and all that they bring to the table. I think every race, culture and even religion should be looked at and studied. The world is such a wealth of information and beauty....
Farrah
Farrah, I couldn't have said it better myself.
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 12:10 AM
Farrah, lastly I just wanted to thank you again for your input. I think ultimately though my point was that learning about history is so very important (and perhaps didn't express as good as I could have). I'm just not crazy about the idea of doing it under the guise of a political statement. Some people may believe that learning about history, even under the wrong reasons is still a good thing. I respect that to a degree because knowledge is definitely power. I'm just looking at the bigger picture here, and that's the small chip at society and the damage caused by its political correctness, using history as a front to make a political point. In ANY event though, I fully do support ways we can educate people more effectively. If using something such as "Black History Month" is the catalyst, then perhaps it's the sugar to help the medicine go down.
seraya
02-21-2004, 08:03 AM
Well.... After re-reading my original post on this thread I have realized that I am wrong in my assumption that black history month isnt important.reading thru this thread has made it perfectly clear that black histry is just as important as celtic pride....You cant go anywhere in this world without bing surronded by MANY cultures and I now see that learning about every cultures history is important.I had no idea so many things I take for granted were in fact invented by blacks(Iknew about peanut butter)In fact my dumb ass always assumed the guitar was a tool of the white man(bad attempt at humour)
Thats great you feel that way blade but you do know that according to "the black myths" we didn't even invent peanut butter lol .... but on a serious note i agree with you and farrah.... learning about all religions, cultures and ppl from aound the globe is important. I also find it fun and very interesting..... unfortutely we are not given this opportunity which is why educating yourself is so important...
Dancer my post about the inventions was inteneded for your they never had created revolutionary technology comment and the corrcection you made about the light signals...... it was 7am when i made my post so i as half brain dead lol and wasn't able to fully express myself.......
However inventions and inventors are not what black history is about what...... but for your (quote) blacks for centuries never built major or modern civilizations, they never led the world in major cultural movements, with minor exceptions, they never conquered other civilizations. comment ..... which i also with.
A great book i would advice ppl to read is " Morden Fraud - The vanishing evidence of classical African civilizations " The kind of stuff we are not taught in school, hear in the media or shown in national museums ( which btw hold artificats which have been changed and de-africanized as my father says )
I have also been advised to read the book titled " The Importance of African History" ..... i couldn't find much info on the book when i did a search but i do like this quote form the author .....
"It is to correct [Western] misrepresentations and restore the true value and place of Negro culture and achievement in the sum total of human progress that makes the study of African history today a double necessity for both Africans and non-Africans." -K.B.C. Onwubiko from "The Importance of African History Today"
PLEASE PLEAS read this http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/blacked/tablecontents.html
Maybe some of us took what you read out of context but i took it how it was written ....
I can really only speak for the UK because i know that Americas are a lot more advanced when it comes to black/africian history and culture...... I see a few of you commented on George Washington Carver who i'm sure you hear about every year...... well ppl here do not know who he is..... many of my west indian friends even refuse to believe that black people originated form africa ... wtf!
As i stated before i agree 100% with lestats comment...... History is history i would rather that we are educated about history as a whole instead of having a specific month/week dedicated to just one aspect of history (i e black history/Native American Awareness)...... but until that day comes i see no problem with taking advantage of a month/week of "awarness" and using it to further my knowledge.
Seraya.
montythegeek
02-21-2004, 08:04 AM
Look Folks, Black History Month is a PR campaign like "Smokey the Bear". Is is BEARIST that the person who says "only you can prevent forest fires" is a Bear and not a raccoon or puma?
The point of Smokey is to raise awareness of the risks of forest fires and the simple things which can raise safety. The point of BHM is to get kids to read and raise awareness of the contibutions to History of all kinds of people.
It costs almost nothing and can very credibly improve lives by stimulating thought. I am personally about as far as one can get from political correctness as you can be without being on FOX news. Wanna have "women in science month"? I am all for it if a few kids study harder and say "I can do that." Wanna stop folks houses from burning, you can make Smokey a shrew. The object will be less acheived because too many kids say "Eeeeewh".
Farrah_Holiday
02-21-2004, 08:59 AM
That good ol Smokey where would the world be without him...
Any how, I believe from the resonses of Dancer Wealth and Blade, that Black History month is important and necessary to educate EVERYONE. Not just for the young in age but, those who haven't yet had the opportunity to learn about the Black/African civilizations. Knowledge is power..Unfortunately history is not always covered to the extent that it should be. I am impressed however with the changes that can be made once information is shared with others and also accepted by them.
Farrah
seraya
02-21-2004, 09:09 AM
Its rather odd that as soon as Pilbo logs off Dancer Wealth logs on..They both speak the same and both post the same links and website..
I smell a rat..I hope that I am wrong..
LOL farrah i even thought the same thing me self.... lol
Anyway........................
I just wanted to thank you again for the links..... I wasn't able to read them properly because i was extremely tired when i was on here lastnight..... now i have and thank you, thank you those links were GREAT!
Even i was suprised my some of what i read.... This link was very very interesting http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/blacked/tablecontents.html...... i will definitely pass it on! This one also http://www.minorityx.com/viewarticle.php?artId=147
I also found this site very interesting to read even though i know some of this already http://www.wsu.edu:8000/~dee/CIVAFRCA/MALI.HTM. My mum as you know was born and raised in Ghana, West Africa where a lot of our African history originated from..... i love reading about Ancient Africa, Egyptology ( especially ) and Ethopia.
I have started reading about Brazil's African legacy...... My father is French-Brazilian portugese. My ancestors were captured from Togo, West Africa and brought to brazil to become slaves who were ruled by the portugese..... I even hold a portugese surname. Anyway here is a link if you want to have a read http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1373/n8_v47/19658856/print.jhtml
Unfortunetly one of the links i wanted to read didn't work ... but i truly hope that some ppl took time out to read some of the links you provided, i think they would be very suprised! ... like i said black history isn't just about "American" black history....
Like we have both stated in earlier posts Knowlegede IS Power! a saying a was taught from an early age :)
Seraya.
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 09:38 AM
A great book i would advice ppl to read is " Morden Fraud - The vanishing evidence of classical African civilizations " The kind of stuff we are not taught in school, hear in the media or shown in national museums ( which btw hold artificats which have been changed and de-africanized as my father says )
Do you know the author of this book Seraya? If Amazon's got it or even a local bookstore, I'll pick it up.
Farrah_Holiday
02-21-2004, 10:00 AM
DW,
Here is the link to purchase the book..
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-8618888-6824904
Farrah_Holiday
02-21-2004, 10:03 AM
I just double checked the link..Its not working..
Just do a search on Amazon and you'll find it.
seraya
02-21-2004, 10:16 AM
Hi DW.... The author's name is Prof. Manu Ampim. He is a lecturer at San Francisco State University.
you can check out this link...... http://www.lbcc.edu/bhm/manu%20ampim here it tells you lil bit about the author with a list of his books, videos and audio tapes. There is also an address and # listed so that you can purchase his material. ..... you could also do a search on amazon as farrah suggested.
Seraya.
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 10:21 AM
I just double checked the link..Its not working..
Just do a search on Amazon and you'll find it.
How are you searching? Amazon came up with nothing under "Modern Fraud The vanishing evidence of classical African civilizations". If I searched under "Modern Fraud" it came back with about 25000 returns. :( Can you provide the author?
seraya
02-21-2004, 10:24 AM
I just double checked the link..Its not working..
Just do a search on Amazon and you'll find it.
How are you searching? Amazon came up with nothing under "Modern Fraud The vanishing evidence of classical African civilizations". If I searched under "Modern Fraud" it came back with about 25000 returns. :( Can you provide the author?
LOL i just gave you the name of the author above your post...... Prof. Manu Ampim
Seraya.
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 10:32 AM
LEASE PLEAS read this http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/blacked/tablecontents.html
I took a look at the link and there's a lot of really "out there" theories on that site. One of the ones they even talked about was that Jesus Christ may have been black. I've heard this theory bounced around for some time now and I'm not sure I buy it. It may be true, but my own logic tends to go against their theory. Mainly because Jesus was a jew born in the region he was. The profile just doesn't fit. Although biblical descriptions of him can loosly elude to his hair and skin color being non-white, I'm NEVER one who likes to use the bible as being anywhere near historically accurate. One site I suggest people take a look at is James Randi's site. He is the world famous debunker of psychic surgeons, mind readers, dowsers, etc. One of the recent contributions to his newsletter I think really nailed it:
It's an oral history. It was passed down, word-of-mouth, father to son, from Adam to Seth, from Seth to Enos, from Enos to Cainan, for 40 generations, a growing, changing, story, it was handed down, word-of-mouth, father to son. Until Moses finally gets it down on lambskin. But lambskins wear out, and need to be recopied. Copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of copies of an oral history passed down through 40 generations.
From Hebrew it's translated into Arabic, from Arabic to Latin, from Latin to Greek, from Greek to Russian, from Russian to German, from German to an old form of English that you could not read. Through 400 years of evolution of the English language to the book we have today, which is: a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of an oral history passed down through 40 generations.
You can't put a grocery list through that many translations, copies, and re-telling, and not expect to have some big changes in the dinner menu when the kids make it back from Kroger's.
And yet people are killing each other over this written word. Here's a tip: If you're killing someone in the name of God — you're missing the message.
Randi's site is: www.randi.org (http://www.randi.org)
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 10:35 AM
Hi DW.... The author's name is Prof. Manu Ampim. He is a lecturer at San Francisco State University.
you can check out this link...... http://www.lbcc.edu/bhm/manu%20ampim here it tells you lil bit about the author with a list of his books, videos and audio tapes. There is also an address and # listed so that you can purchase his material. ..... you could also do a search on amazon as farrah suggested.
Seraya.
This link isn't working either. :( It wants me to download something and I'm not real keen on that. Also, Amazon only has one listing under this author, "Towards Black community development : moving beyond the limitations of the lecture model : a critical review of the current Africentric movement "
Any other ideas?
montythegeek
02-21-2004, 10:42 AM
That is odd DW. The link works (both original one from SFL and the one in the quote of it) for me and I looked at the source code of the page and there was nothing out of the ordinary. The most "suspicious" content I saw was 3 jpg's. One a photo of the author.
There is more at Barnes and Nob. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=MANU+AMPIM&userid=2ZID39KRCL&sourceid=00398551267284026840&bfdate=02%2D21%2D2004+12%3A44%3A21&cds2Pid=946
Link is so long there may be an issue
seraya
02-21-2004, 11:06 AM
Thanx monty :) the links seem to work for me too.
DW, here is what i copied and pasted from the site
Advancing The Research
P.O. Box 18623, Oakland, CA 94619
(510) 482-5791 or
[email protected]
www.geocities.com/M_Ampim/Vanishing/Update.html
Thats all i could find ..... i read the book in my trip to Africa.
LEASE PLEAS read this http://www.ibiblio.org/nge/blacked/tablecontents.html
I took a look at the link and there's a lot of really "out there" theories on that site. One of the ones they even talked about was that Jesus Christ may have been black.
Yes i know of this theory too..... and i also tend to not read too much into what the bible states, well not the king james ( revised) version anyway....
The link i posted and asked you to take a look at was one that farrah provded ..... but i asume you already knew this seeing as you said that you took a look at the links she provided lastnight.
I still found it very interesting whether the thories are "out there" or not and i will also take a look at Rabi's site because i like to read information from different sources and keep an open mind.
Seraya.
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 11:20 AM
That is odd DW. The link works (both original one from SFL and the one in the quote of it) for me and I looked at the source code of the page and there was nothing out of the ordinary. The most "suspicious" content I saw was 3 jpg's. One a photo of the author.
There is more at Barnes and Nob. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/results.asp?WRD=MANU+AMPIM&userid=2ZID39KRCL&sourceid=00398551267284026840&bfdate=02%2D21%2D2004+12%3A44%3A21&cds2Pid=946
Link is so long there may be an issue
Thanks for the link but B&N doesn't have the book in question. My local library does have some of his books so I'll see if I can get one or two of them this week and take a look at his writings.
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 11:39 AM
I still found it very interesting whether the thories are "out there" or not and i will also take a look at Rabi's site because i like to read information from different sources and keep an open mind.
Seraya.
Thanks for the info and I'll be checking into it. The issue with a lot of theories that float around is that they get accepted as fact before any kind of science can back it up. When someone comes up with a new theory on history, or medicine, etc., and it is far off the maninstream, it needs to be validated by an outside source to prove it to be factual. That's what the Scientific Method is all about. I get very suspicious of theories that make claims by one peson or one political movement and can't validate it by an outside source. The "Jesus Was Black" theory was one of them. I couldn't care less if he was or not. It makes no difference to me. But when it's politically expedient for a group to make that claim, and only has a few sources (from their own movement) to back that claim up, I smell a rat. My belief is that the reason it's not taught as fact is because enough historians could not provide enough factual or written information to accurately back that claim up, so until they can otherwise, the current middle-eastern/white theory needs to stick. That's what history and science is all about.
Topaz
02-21-2004, 01:07 PM
i don't formally celebrate 'black history' month...but i do study black history....i like to know where i came from...what my people have gone through...and to never forget that my people were at one point and time in 'american' his-story...treated like property...worse than property...looked upon (and still are) as second class citizens...i like to know what we have overcome....and what we still have to overcome...
but...being a black woman in america...or anywhere it seems...is no celebration...in my opinion...
:peace:
Farrah_Holiday
02-21-2004, 01:33 PM
but...being a black woman in america...or anywhere it seems...is no celebration...in my opinion...
It deeply saddens me to hear you speak like that, Topaz anyday that you walk upon this Earth is a celebration. Celebrate yourself and your human spirit.
:hug:
Farrah
DancerWealth
02-21-2004, 02:01 PM
but...being a black woman in america...or anywhere it seems...is no celebration...in my opinion...
It deeply saddens me to hear you speak like that, Topaz anyday that you walk upon this Earth is a celebration. Celebrate yourself and your human spirit.
:hug:
Farrah
Well said Farrah! I agree with both of you. I don't celebrate myself because I'm white, or because I'm Jewish, or because I have brown hair or because of any other reason other than I'm just me. Life is to be celebrated. It's a wonderful thing that many people take for granted way too often. A good friend of mine who is a personal development (best selling) author has told me that every single day he wakes up, se jumps out of bed and says out loud... "God bless this day full of love, opportunity, and potential!" If more people were to do things like that, just imagine how much of a positive impact that would make on the world.
scorpio
02-21-2004, 08:38 PM
what about celebrating Native American Month? They are the true Americans, and they have suffered oppression and slaughter like no other, and unlike some other groups, they get no preferential treatment to this day.
Farrah_Holiday
02-21-2004, 08:46 PM
what about celebrating Native American Month? They are the true Americans, and they have suffered oppression and slaughter like no other, and unlike some other groups, they get no preferential treatment to this day.
I agree with what you are saying..
I could be mistaken but, aren't all people of Native American descent guaranteed a free college education ?
I agree with what you are saying..
seraya
02-22-2004, 07:28 AM
what about celebrating Native American Month? They are the true Americans, and they have suffered oppression and slaughter like no other, and unlike some other groups, they get no preferential treatment to this day.
You have Native American Awarness week, dont you?
Seraya.
montythegeek
02-22-2004, 07:55 AM
You have Native American Awarness week, dont you?
Seraya.
To let you know how affective that campaign is, I was not aware of it. The awareness campaigns which have worked are few and far between-BHM, Smokey the bear, Reading is Fundamental. The rest like "just say no to drugs" which are either badly implemented or uninspiring fade to background noise.
VenusGoddess
02-22-2004, 09:18 AM
I find it rather funny that none of these posters have bothered to read any of links that I have provided (many of which are from accredited colleges) that tell the TRUTH of Black/African civilatizions..
I guess its true ingorance really is bliss.
Sorry, Farrah. I had to add this in here...TRUTH is nothing more than what someone wants to BELIEVE. It has been proven time and again that history is someone's OPINIONS...
I am not getting into an argument nor am I wanting to get ganged up on here, but the reality of history is based on what one person wants others to know about it. As I said before history is nothing but an opinion (just like the government wanting us kids to believe that Americans were heros in Vietnam...laugh).
On another side...just because Blacks have not gotten credit for the "invention" of a lot of things, doesn't mean that they have nothing to offer the world. Martin Luther King, Jr. never invented anything...Malcolm X never invented anything...but, they have changed the world as we know it. They have told people (anyone who found themselves in the minority) that they have rights and they have voices. Greatness is not achieved by what you make or what you take, but by what you give.
[Forrest Gump] And that is all I have to say about that. [/Forrest Gump]
Farrah_Holiday
02-22-2004, 12:54 PM
VG,
No need to apologize..everyone has a right to their own opinion..I go by facts..ie..proof. If you would read some the links that I provided you'll see it was dealing with proof of African/Black Civilizations,which is what Dancer Wealth questioned in his post ..
Farrah
cinammonkisses
03-04-2004, 10:53 AM
I understand where you are coming from adam but i also disagree with some of what you wrote (high lighted above)..... I consider the civil rights movment to be a huge cultural movement.
Also your are right the traffic light was not invented by a black man but here are a few things which have been.......
the first blood bank
the first successful open heart surgery
Helicopter
Electric Railway system
Refrigerator
Air Conditioning Unit
Blood Plasma Bag
Guitar
Motor
Hydraulic Shock Absorber
Starter Generator
Electric Lamp
multi-Stage Rocket
Laser Fuels
Defroster
Fire Extinguisher
Baby Buggy
Refrigerator
Roller Coaster
Elevator
Typewriter
Printing Press
Cellular Phone
Urinalysis Machine
Telephone System/transmitter
Auto Air Brake
Air Ship
Automatic Gear Shift
Stair Climbing Wheelchair
Electro Mech Brake
Rocket Catapult
Internal Combustion Engine
Starter Generator
Stethoscope
Spark Plug
Lock
Almanac
Pressure Cooker
Traffic Signal
+ all the other electronics and engines i haven't listed
Not to forget all the little necessites and the little things we use on a daily basis.....
For example The fountain pen you use to write your cheques with and the envelope seal you use for the envelopes you put those cheques in ......oh and then theres the mail box you post those cheques in and the hand stamp used at the mail office before sending those cheques off......
Or how about the pencil sharpner your dancer-students use, to sharpen the pencils they use to jolt down notes in you dancewealth classes and the folded chairs the dancers sit on.
The dust pan, mop and Window Cleaner my mum was using to clean the kitchen with 2 hrs ago... and ironing board she was using to iron her clothes with
The bottle cap placed on my bottle of water here right besides me and the brush to my left on my dressing table....
And the many many many others i haven't listed above
Ok so i may have gone a bit over the top but i just wanted to give you an example of the contributions we have made too..... LOL because i know they didn't teach you this in school.
Seraya.
Hey seraya, I know that I may be a lil late on the bandwagon with this...but I must say I really appreciate the above post. So many people take the little advancements of technology for advantage. It's good to know that you, like alot of the other ladies of this board are up on your historical FACTS...