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FONDL
03-15-2004, 08:42 AM
"Conversations with God" is a series of 5 or so books that are basically a very complete statement of "new age" beliefs. What's especially interesting is that they're presented in question and answer format - the writer asks questions, God answers. Many of the answers are very critical of and contradictory to the views presented in mainstream churches. (For example the new age definition of God is very different from the traditional church view.) I found the books to be fascinating reading and found myself agreeing with a lot of what is said. Start with book 1 (which I have already read 4 times.)

mystery
02-13-2007, 07:29 AM
I don't believe in "god" as a actual entity.. I believe everything in fact is “god“.. Similar to native American beliefs, but not quite what I believe either.. I believe we are all a spirit and our bodies and minds are a medium in which our spirit expresses itself through... I posted more on my myspace..

Pantheism is semi atheism but not quite.. there is spiritual pantheism and spiritual humanism and other beliefs I pull bits and pieces from.. I don’t swallow ANYTHIGN whole...

For those who would say I was non-believer then I would say they are right but not in the traditional sense or just plain atheism… , but I wouldn’t ‘categorize myself as believer either…

So none of my anwers could fit into the poll

Eric Stoner
02-13-2007, 07:36 AM
I believe in a Higher Power but NOT religion. I'm a Druid- Modern Reformed- we worship the sun because we can see it and we like to get a tan.

aussiepunkshocker
02-13-2007, 10:07 AM
I think the choices are rather limited and the atheist definition not entirely correct. However I voted for the atheist choice since I am one, but I do remember some of my past lives and have seen enough spirits for an afterlife to be real for me. Id say as far as atheists go though, thats not a 'normal' definition.

Katrine
02-13-2007, 12:50 PM
I believe that reviving really old threads is retarded and should be punishable by ass torture.

lwtex52
02-13-2007, 06:33 PM
*Old Joke Alert*

Well, I'm not really sure, so I consulted my Spiritual Advisor, the Kindly Old Father O'Really over at the Church of the Immoral Purposes, and asked him this very question. He suggested we discuss it over a round of golf and a scottle of botch.

On the first tee, I drove the ball down the fairway but it hooked at about 150 yards. I couldn't believe it, and yelled "Gawdamm!". I immediately realized my error and apologized.

Same thing happened on the second tee, with the same response from me. Father O'Really admonished me to please watch my language.

On the third tee, I did it again, and yelled "Gawdamm!". At that very moment the sky darkened, the clouds parted, the choir sang, the trumpet blew, and Jerry Springer showed some class. Then a lightning bolt came down from the heavens, and hit Father O'Really right in the middle of the green.

Then a voice was heard from the heavens, saying "Gawdamm!"

dlabtot
02-13-2007, 06:47 PM
-- snip --

lunchbox
02-13-2007, 07:07 PM
I believe that reviving really old threads is retarded and should be punishable by ass torture.

define torture.

datchapin
02-13-2007, 07:42 PM
I voted before thinking, but after reading through this thread I think. It's impossible not to be a believer. Everyone accepts that which isn't backed by evidence on a consistent basis. The future, friends, themselves. Whatever the case may be everyone has faith in something. As I had this epiphany I had to ask myself what I believe and if I had to pick a religion I would say Bhuddism would fit me best. Because like Buddha said, "I simply am." Just my 2 cents.

By the way, Jay Zeno's amount of knowledge on the subject is really impressive. JMO.

rozz
02-13-2007, 07:48 PM
I'm Unitarian Universalist. I believe that when I die, I get to go to the great Perhaps.

datchapin
02-13-2007, 07:52 PM
I'm Unitarian Universalist. I beliebe that when I die, I get to go to the great Perhaps.

I believe you mispelled that word.

rozz
02-13-2007, 07:54 PM
I believe you mispelled that word.

Hush. Am perfect and none can convince me otherwise.

lwtex52
02-13-2007, 07:58 PM
Truth be told, if it weren't for the lack of holidays I'd probably be an atheist.

datchapin
02-13-2007, 07:59 PM
Hush. Am perfect and none can convince me otherwise.

Muahhahahaha, that is hilarious. If you were perfect you would have made me look like a dumbass and said something like. "That word" is nowhere in my sentence.

Silverback
02-13-2007, 08:23 PM
I think some of these threads have more of an afterlife than we do. :-\



Well, I'm not really sure, so I consulted my Spiritual Advisor, the Kindly Old Father O'Really over at the Church of the Immoral Purposes, and asked him this very question. He suggested we discuss it over a round of golf and a scottle of botch.


One day, a worker at the Monterey Aquarium was grinding up fish to make mash for the institute's three elderly porpoises. Suddenly a seagull swooped down and flew right into the maw of the grinder. Even though poultry wasn't normally part of their diet, the worker didn't want to waste the entire batch, so he just shrugged and proceeded to serve the chow as always.


The next day, the director of the institute noticed that the porpoises seemed unusually spry, swimming faster and playing in their tank. He found their caretaker and asked what the animals had been eating. "Same as always," the worker replied, "except for that business with the seagull." He told the director about the previous day's mishap. Intrigued, the director found a net, caught another seagull from the pier, and threw it into the grinder along with the day's allotment of fish.

The next day, the elderly porpoises were even more energized, leaping into the air, bouncing balls back and forth, and acting like frisky youngsters. The director left standing instructions for a seagull to be added to the mash each day, and went to call the chief of research.
Over the next few weeks, they studied the effects of the new diet on the porpoises. Amazingly, it seemed as if the addition of a bird to the mash had caused changes at a cellular level: aged tissue regenerated, brittle bones grew strong, worn muscle and sinew regained their flexibility and tone. The aging process appeared to have been reversed! The director realized that the secret of eternal life might be within their grasp.

Unfortunately, it was becoming more and more difficult to keep the porpoises fed. Their appetites were increasing, and the gulls had learned to avoid the piers around the aquarium. Their research had shown that younger birds had the most potent effect, and so the director, who had kept the momentous discovery a closely guarded secret, was forced to go farther and farther up the coast each morning to trap an adequate supply of adolescent seagulls.
One foggy morning on a beach some miles away, the director spotted a number of young birds roosting on some rocks, just beyond a large pack of recumbent sea lions. There was no way around, so the director gingerly made his way through the pack, stepping over and around the magnificent beasts. They seemed quite content to lie there, and paid little attention as he reached the rocks, bagged the gulls, and retraced his route back through the pack to his car.
But when he reached the vehicle, the director was met by several police officers, who had driven up while he was occupied on the beach. The director was arrested, handcuffed, and driven away to jail, where he was charged with transporting underage gulls across sedate lions for immortal porpoises.

spoiledpet
02-15-2007, 03:57 AM
define torture.

i'm thinking "red hot pokers". but if you want a more thorough study of the term...

tor·ture

–noun
1. the act of inflicting excruciating pain, as punishment or revenge, as a means of getting a confession or information, or for sheer cruelty.
2. a method of inflicting such pain.
3. Often, tortures. the pain or suffering caused or undergone.
4. extreme anguish of body or mind; agony.
5. a cause of severe pain or anguish.

–verb (used with object)
6. to subject to torture.
7. to afflict with severe pain of body or mind: My back is torturing me.
8. to force or extort by torture: We'll torture the truth from his lips!
9. to twist, force, or bring into some unnatural position or form: trees tortured by storms.
10. to distort or pervert (language, meaning, etc.).

[Origin: 1530–40; < LL tortūra a twisting, torment, torture. See tort, -ure]

hyzenthflay
02-15-2007, 08:32 AM
I put agnostic, but I believe in a higher power. I just can't justify us being here, our beautiful planets, etc.... with any other explanation. Also, after traveling (and the internet:p), I realized just how many religions there are in this world. I say call it (higher power) by whatever you want, believe it or don't, as long as you try to be good to this world.
I was raised (shoved down my throat) Christian. Went to a Christian school, weekly youth group, revival, and church. Needless to say, I do not attend church anymore. At first, it was because I was sick of it, but the last 10 years I've realized that I don't even believe in Christianity anymore. I find it ridiculous that to get to "God", you must first go through Jesus. At least, that was the gist that I got out of it when I did a tiny amount of research.
I was googling religions at Christmas and found this site

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/76/story_7665_1.html

It's a quiz to see which religion your beliefs most coincide with.
Mine came up Reformed Judaism, but it couldn't be entirely accurate because I was iffy on several answers.

Jay Zeno
02-15-2007, 08:44 AM
...amount of knowledge...Thank you. It was a refreshing break from, "You're being argumentative, and my discussion with you is over" approach.