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darkness
03-05-2004, 09:31 PM
if another dancer is letting guys get away with things why do other dancers seem so eager to tell on them,why can't they mind there own buisness?

Kelli
03-05-2004, 10:12 PM
Because scum like that give us all a bad name!

Pan Dah
03-05-2004, 10:44 PM
More than giving everyone a bad name, it makes everyone else's job harder. If I'm getting a dance from you and you let me [fill in activity here], I'm going to assume that's a standard activity at the club and start to do it with the next dancer. If she obeys the rules and says I can't, I'll probably stop getting dances from her and come dance with you and other girls that let me [whatever]. So you breaking the rules hurts her money if she follows them.

Once enough girls start breaking the rules, it may not be long before LE finds out and starts taking an interest in the club. If they see 15 girls in an LD area, and specifically see 6 of then violating the law (and in some states, any "sexual" contact - your breast or my genitals, clothed or not - is a violation of a strictly interpreted law), they're going to arrest 15 dancers and let the courts sort out the difference.

Hasn't this been covered at length several times before?

Kelli
03-05-2004, 11:26 PM
agreed!

4footfine
03-06-2004, 11:55 AM
We had a girl like that at our club...we ran her little ass right out of there! That is one thing I can't stand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>:(

For the simple fact that rules are in place for a reason. If she wants to have contact that's fine...it's her body, her mind.

Then she should go work at a contact club. Why she doesn't? Because there she has to compete with other girls that are going even further. She's not raising the bar anymore.

If I see it I tell the dj/owner...whomever. She's making everyone's job harder...what about the girl that's dancing to support her kid/s...should she have to compete with that? What about the girl dancing next to her? She looses her customer I guarantee!

We're all equipped with different looks, personality, and talents. It's really sad when you can't even rely upon those.

darkness
03-06-2004, 03:51 PM
Because scum like that give us all a bad name!
i take it you are a whinning tattle tale?!? can't you keep your customer interested in you? or his eyes wondering around at a more interesting dancer? girls like you make it hard for real,expierenced dancers like me.if you don't like what you see keep it to yourself! or in your case keep your customer interested in you!

Emily
03-06-2004, 04:00 PM
Darkness....why are you so hell-bent on going beyond the call of duty?

I agree about girls minding their own business, but if the club has certain rules, and girls are breaking them, then that makes it harder for everyone else. It's not about losing customers to another girl. it's about keeping the integrity of the environment so you don't have to keep outdiong yourself.

If girls are always trying to outdo each other with offering more than the other dancers, don't you see what will happen?

Pan Dah
03-06-2004, 04:11 PM
Because scum like that give us all a bad name!
i take it you are a whinning tattle tale?!? can't you keep your customer interested in you? or his eyes wondering around at a more interesting dancer? girls like you make it hard for real,expierenced dancers like me.if you don't like what you see keep it to yourself! or in your case keep your customer interested in you!


If you're so interesting to your customers, why would you need to break the rules (or more realistically, the club norms, which sometimes do exceed the rules) in order to keep them? Not good enough to compete on a level playing field?

I don't know about Kelli; as for me, I never whine and you can call me whatever names you want (hey, after being on SCL for years...) but you better believe I've let someone know if some dancer started ignoring the rules and the law. There are too many really fine women that I like and respect working at the club for me to want them to be busted or shut down because of someone who should be working the corner lamppost.

VenusGoddess
03-06-2004, 04:32 PM
Because scum like that give us all a bad name!
i take it you are a whinning tattle tale?!? can't you keep your customer interested in you? or his eyes wondering around at a more interesting dancer? girls like you make it hard for real,expierenced dancers like me.if you don't like what you see keep it to yourself! or in your case keep your customer interested in you!


If you're so interesting to your customers, why would you need to break the rules (or more realistically, the club norms, which sometimes do exceed the rules) in order to keep them? Not good enough to compete on a level playing field?

I don't know about Kelli; as for me, I never whine and you can call me whatever names you want (hey, after being on SCL for years...) but you better believe I've let someone know if some dancer started ignoring the rules and the law. There are too many really fine women that I like and respect working at the club for me to want them to be busted or shut down because of someone who should be working the corner lamppost.


:beer:

That's what I was going to ask. If you're such a great dancer and conversationalist, why the extras? And, why are you working at a club that has "rules against any bodily contact"? Couldn't cut it at a club that offers full-contact, high mileage?

Geesh... :banghead:...please tell me that you aren't so dense that you couldn't figure this out for yourself.

Gynger
03-06-2004, 04:53 PM
I don't want some creepy old perv touching me.. PERIOD. Girls that do that are just making our jobs harder.. and besides, no amount of money is worth some old perv getting his jollies with me.... I personally like the rules in our club, we had two girls who were doing things that were against them, and it just created a lot of drama and a bunch of tension.. one got fired and one is currently on her way out! YAY! Extra girls have no respect from me.

LoveSexMoney
03-06-2004, 06:45 PM
if you don't like what you see keep it to yourself! or in your case keep your customer interested in you!


Actually, I'm no tattletale. I don't like girls going the extra 5 miles for the reasons Pan Dah already stated. If I see you getting fingerbanged, I'll call you out to your face. Now what?

TiNi
03-06-2004, 07:29 PM
That's right Sapphire.

Also I would want a club to get raided because of someone's stupidity. It's not fair to the other dancers.

Lexi
03-06-2004, 07:30 PM
Oh please darkness. I know a BUNCH of experienced dancers who do not have to do extras to keep a customer interested.
I have only been dancing a year and a half, and I can KEEP my customers and dont have to offer extras. Why do you feel the need to go the extra mile?
Its not about tattle telling, but when there are rules, they are there for a reason. You breaking them and going against them makes it hard for ANYONE else to make money. You damn right people are gonna open there mouths.

Rhiannon
03-06-2004, 07:34 PM
Oh please darkness. I know a BUNCH of experienced dancers who do not have to do extras to keep a customer interested.
I have only been dancing a year and a half, and I can KEEP my customers and dont have to offer extras. Why do you feel the need to go the extra mile?
Its not about tattle telling, but when there are rules, they are there for a reason. You breaking them and going against them makes it hard for ANYONE else to make money. You damn right people are gonna open there mouths.



Right on, Lexi.

No one else wants to take the fall for your dirty-deeds inside the club.

And you can't define "experienced dancer" or "more interesting dancer" by the "extra" services you provide. Because that definitely doesn't make you experienced in dancing. Everyone knows what I'm getting at, so there's no need to come right out and say it.

Bridgette
03-06-2004, 07:35 PM
Ok girls, I think we're getting trolled by some Aces High punk again.

I remember that pic darkness uses for 'her' avatar being posted on the AH forums a while back, from a poster who thought it was just SUCH a cool pic....

Rhiannon
03-06-2004, 07:38 PM
Ok girls, I think we're getting trolled by some Aces High punk again.

I remember that pic darkness uses for 'her' avatar being posted on the AH forums a while back, from a poster who thought it was just SUCH a cool pic....


Ah! I thought I recognized that avatar. They honestly have nothing better to do? How incredibly sad for them.

:troll:

Daisa
03-06-2004, 08:00 PM
If I am doing a dance for a customer and there's another girl dancing for a guy on the couch beside us who is obviously breaking the rules, my customer will EXPECT me to do the same. Most guys will just assume they should be getting what that guy is getting from his dancer. When it doesn't happen, the guy will in turn buy dances with the girl who is willing to go that extra mile. That's only one of the many reasons we don't want girls like that in the clubs we work in.

Gynger
03-06-2004, 08:28 PM
Oh please darkness. I know a BUNCH of experienced dancers who do not have to do extras to keep a customer interested.
I have only been dancing a year and a half, and I can KEEP my customers and dont have to offer extras. Why do you feel the need to go the extra mile?
Its not about tattle telling, but when there are rules, they are there for a reason. You breaking them and going against them makes it hard for ANYONE else to make money. You damn right people are gonna open there mouths.




Go Lexi!!!!

I agree... I have kept a large amount of my customers WITHOUT any extras. I am not a tattletale either, I mind my own business, but it infuriates me when there's a girl doing something extra and making it an unsafe environment for everyone else.

Darkness: Just an example for you: For every guy who gets an extra from just ONE dancer, he then expects it from everyone else within the club... he tells a friend, that friend tells a friend, and pretty soon you've got undercover officers in the club-this happened to the club I worked at in L.A. when girls were doing extras.. we were all out of a job for over a month- we were all questioned, and we were all made to feel as if we were on trial for something only a couple of girls were doing... it was a bloody mess and a nightmare!

Bottom line: Most of us have bigger fish to fry (responsibilities etc) than to even think about putting ourselves at risk..

vanilla_dog
03-07-2004, 02:53 AM
Ok girls, I think we're getting trolled ...

Agreed. I have thought this entity was a troll since she claimed to make $1,000 every night she worked. In her own words she's all about being slutty and getting a huge bunch of regulars. Reading through all her posts is kind of creepy.

Rhiannon
03-07-2004, 03:04 AM
Ok girls, I think we're getting trolled ...

Agreed. I have thought this entity was a troll since she claimed to make $1,000 every night she worked. In her own words she's all about being slutty and getting a huge bunch of regulars. Reading through all her posts is kind of creepy.


Yeah, I noticed her/his/its past posts also. They also originally had another name, which I can't remember. But the posts I most remember were the ones related to dancers' ages. Stupid little posts like "If you're over 35 you should retire" etc...

It's pretty damn sad when people have nothing better to do.

:shrug:

sadbuttrue
03-07-2004, 04:38 AM
I don't want some creepy old perv touching me.. PERIOD.

Just a note, as this dicussion is pretty much done.

Could you include creepy young pervs in the list of guys you don't want touching you? ??? Guess I'm just having a tough week.

>>>Sad<<<
;D

NikkiD
03-07-2004, 08:48 AM
I&#039;m eager to tell because some jackass will come in buy a dance, try to touch my cookie (or whatever) and when I stop the dance, he says, "Well, (insert name here) lets me"
Oh, hell no!

Juliette_deSade
03-07-2004, 09:50 AM
Hi darkness,

Please get over yourself.

Love, JDS

doc-catfish
03-07-2004, 10:27 AM
Yeah, I was going to give my input to this thread yesterday, but common sense got the better of me. I figured something wasn&#039;t right when I saw that avatar, because I&#039;ve seen it somewhere else too (http://www.stripclubjunkie.com/forum/index.php/yabbse/t1182.htm).

IP address check please!! :whistleblower:

Gynger
03-07-2004, 10:34 AM
I don&#039;t want some creepy old perv touching me.. PERIOD.

Just a note, as this dicussion is pretty much done.

Could you include creepy young pervs in the list of guys you don&#039;t want touching you? ??? Guess I&#039;m just having a tough week.

>>>Sad<<<
;D


Sad.. you are right.. Pervs can be young too! Sorry... just have had a lot of old guys lately!

Oh yeah, and the comment about the "if you are over 35... " that comment was made to me back in january when I first joined this forum, and I believe its on the thread that I posted titled: Coming back to dancing after a long hiatus.... I remember that comment specifically, because I was infuriated that some one would say such a thing... (that good ole irish temper!) :censored:

Lexi
03-07-2004, 11:29 AM
The trolls with no life... gotta love the influx of them lately.

Who gives a rats ass that we work in an adult sexual enviornment? If I wanted guys to touch my cookie, I&#039;d work as an escort, and then it would be ok. But since I have the title of DANCER, then I will dance. As for extras, keep doing them hun...when ya get caught, come back and cry.

darkness
03-07-2004, 02:41 PM
sorry you girls got things wrong here! first no guy will ever touch my snatch,except my man! second if you knew the club i worked at you would understand where i&#039;m coming from! it seems as though every dancer there stares at you while your dancing for your customer i guess to see why i&#039;m making so much money.i don&#039;t do any extra&#039;s there or outside of the club.girls who don&#039;t make any money at the club i work at tell on me for anything!!!!!! i could be lap dancing like everyone else but in my own style and they&#039;ll be quick to tell on me...why,because i make the most there! what i mean by touching is i&#039;ll grab the guys hands and slowly caress them down my thighs up to my stomach and maybe across my breasts,(no groping) just a sensual touch that way they think that i&#039;m not the one who disapproves of the touching the club does.that way they think i want them to touch me.it&#039;s a quick 5 second touch!not a sesson of touching.and then there goes all the bratty dancers quick to tell on me.i hate it! you would too,especially if all the dancers watch and mock everything you do and go tell for the same thing your doing! o and also i picked the picture of the girl flashing her breasts because i think she is hot and has a perfect pair of tits!

darkness
03-07-2004, 02:56 PM
"get over mself" "troll" um...by judging from your pictures on here me and my doubling partner could knock you out of first place at your own club!looks alone!

vanilla_dog
03-07-2004, 03:11 PM
judging from your pictures on here me and my doubling partner could knock you out of first place at your own club!looks alone!
Darkness is that why you don&#039;t have your pictures up in the gallery? So you don&#039;t have to back that up? You may WISH that avatar pic was you but don&#039;t forget...it&#039;s not.

If you are doing stuff in the club the other girls are not doing you are lucky they are only gathering around you and making your life miserable while you dance. You are messing with people&#039;s livelihood, the income they use to feed their families.

Pan Dah
03-07-2004, 03:48 PM
by judging from your pictures on here me and my doubling partner could knock you out of first place at your own club!looks alone!


Well, in my case that wouldn&#039;t be too hard - just a few benjamins and I&#039;m history, LOL.

But yeah, why don&#039;t you try that. Bring your partner to the club I go to. Or its sister club where Lexi works. See how well your looks compete when the club rules let all the other girls make contact too.

VenusGoddess
03-08-2004, 09:03 AM
sorry you girls got things wrong here! first no guy will ever touch my snatch,except my man! second if you knew the club i worked at you would understand where i&#039;m coming from! it seems as though every dancer there stares at you while your dancing for your customer i guess to see why i&#039;m making so much money.i don&#039;t do any extra&#039;s there or outside of the club.girls who don&#039;t make any money at the club i work at tell on me for anything!!!!!! i could be lap dancing like everyone else but in my own style and they&#039;ll be quick to tell on me...why,because i make the most there! what i mean by touching is i&#039;ll grab the guys hands and slowly caress them down my thighs up to my stomach and maybe across my breasts,(no groping) just a sensual touch that way they think that i&#039;m not the one who disapproves of the touching the club does.that way they think i want them to touch me.it&#039;s a quick 5 second touch!not a sesson of touching.and then there goes all the bratty dancers quick to tell on me.i hate it! you would too,especially if all the dancers watch and mock everything you do and go tell for the same thing your doing! o and also i picked the picture of the girl flashing her breasts because i think she is hot and has a perfect pair of tits!


Okie dokie...well, if the club has a NO TOUCHING RULE, then you are violating that rule and taking money from the girls who adhere to that rule. AND, you are actually causing the club liability. If the law requires that your club has NO TOUCHING, then they can and will raid the club...and take the dancers...if some vice cop sees you doing the touching and not any of the other girls...chances are that you&#039;ll get hit with a prositution charge.

This has nothing to do with your looks...just your attitude. TYPE OF TOUCHING does not matter in a strip club. If the LAW says that ALL touching is out, then you are setting yourself up for a very big fall...not to mention setting the other girls up for the same thing...

NO WONDER THEY TELL THE MANAGEMENT ABOUT YOUR DANCES!! Who can blame them? It may have 5% to do with you taking their money and 95% to do with them not wanting to go down for the grievances of an inconsiderate, non-abiding dancer (you).

Rhiannon
03-08-2004, 09:26 AM
Hi darkness,

Please get over yourself.

Love, JDS


I&#039;ll drink to that! :beer:

Darkness... In your earlier posts in this thread, you gave the impression to me, and I think pretty much the rest of us, that you are an extras girl. Now you&#039;re contradicting yourself and saying that you&#039;re not? Make up your mind.

If you&#039;re such a hot piece of arse, post your REAL pic. We girls here could knock you off your self-made pedestal on attitude and intelligence alone, without even needing to get into looks, which I&#039;m sure we all blow you away in that department as well. But, by all means, keep trying to prove us wrong.

:troll:

Lexi
03-08-2004, 12:43 PM
"get over mself" "troll" um...by judging from your pictures on here me and my doubling partner could knock you out of first place at your own club!looks alone!


ROFL, first of all, that is not you in the avatar, that is a professional model. I happen to know her name, it just escapes me at the moment.
If you are talking about knocking ME out of the club, you are wrong babe. ::)
If the comment was made to JDS, because she told you to get over yourself, your wrong as well. She looks great in her pics. Where are yours???

Aspasia13
03-08-2004, 01:00 PM
DUH! Get a grip Darkness! What are you thinking!? Why do you keep arguing your point when you are obviously so wrong?

Have you been stripping for long? Don&#039;t get so caught up baby! You aren&#039;t better than anyone else just because guys give you some money. That is no way to judge your self as a person! Don&#039;t lose your soul honey!It&#039;s just a job and it isn&#039;t going to carry you forever.

I think you might need a vacation from stripping. I think perhaps you&#039;ve gotten a bit carried away! Please come to your senses!

darkness
03-08-2004, 03:33 PM
blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda

Rhiannon
03-08-2004, 04:15 PM
blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda


Hmmm.. how very intelligent. :dunce:

Lexi
03-08-2004, 04:31 PM
Just another way to rake up her post count, yet not write anything good in it. Is that how you do your dances too hun?

BunEE
03-09-2004, 03:55 PM
Right on Rhiannon - she is a dunce.


Just another way to rake up her post count, yet not write anything good in it. Is that how you do your dances too hun?


Exactly Lexi - It just gives us an opportunity to bash such stupidity - Ignorance is great - Ha. Darkness you sure are a piece of work Babe - Thanks for F&@*ing it up for the rest of us. Why don&#039;t you do us all a big favor and go bang your head into a brick wall :banghead:
Have a great day! ;)

TiNi
03-09-2004, 04:02 PM
:laughing: I love topics like this. :rotfl:

vanilla_dog
03-09-2004, 04:28 PM
The sad thing is that I used to like that avatar. Now I hate it. Bleh >:(

Why is it the people who discuss extra&#039;s and argue for them are so stupid? I don&#039;t mind discussing it intelligently but the girls need to be able to take heat and make a point. Blah blah blah just doesn&#039;t cut it.

Yada yada yada just screams: Hi I am as dumb as a rock and I that&#039;s why I suck cock

TiNi
03-09-2004, 04:38 PM
Who avatar are you talking about.

But anyway I think some girl think that because stripping is consider part of the sex industry or adult. We are exotic dancer not exotic fuckers. If I want to make money having sex I would become a prositute or go into the porn industry. But I guess they feel it&#039;s safer doing it in a club than on the street, or on TV(family finding out). But it gives other dancers a bad name that&#039;s why we are always defending what we do which should not be.

Rhiannon
03-09-2004, 04:42 PM
Hehe.. Tini she&#039;s referring to Darkness&#039;s avatar. I used to like it too, but now it&#039;s nauseating.

And honestly, I don&#039;t blame the other dancers for "ratting you out", Darkness. They&#039;re watching their own asses, and they aren&#039;t going to take the fall for what you&#039;re doing. It&#039;s AGAINST most club rules, that I know of, and pretty much breaking the law in general. If you wish to conduct your type of business, do it the old fashioned way, not in the clubs. Sheesh...

Besides.. You created this topic for a reason. Why complain about it, if it&#039;s something that you&#039;re not doing? You&#039;ve denied it left and right, so why create a topic like this? Makes ya wonder...

To Quote the rather repulsive movie, "Showgirls"

"I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re doing at the Cheetah, darlin. But it sure ain&#039;t dancing."

:loco:

TiNi
03-09-2004, 04:58 PM
OHHH ok...lol

darkness
03-10-2004, 04:00 PM
well none of you know me,i&#039;m not an "extra&#039;s" kind of gal! i don&#039;t have to be. my crotch is never seen nor touched either! you guys are quick to jump someone&#039;s back,just because they have different ideas and opinions!give me a break!do you understand that we chose to take our clothes off for a living!hello,do you think we are respected for that? i simply stated that a glide of the hand isn&#039;t gonna kill you! you all respond with a prudy attiude the same crap i deal with at work! if you would read clearly i stated that girls are doing the same thing i&#039;m doing and i&#039;m the one getting tattled on!what the freak is up with that?!? hatin on the popular dancer is what they are doing!

Juliette69
03-10-2004, 04:11 PM
darkness..you should chill on those comments, you dont want everyone on sw to hate you..right? i think everyone is just getting the vibe that ur trying to brag bout ur looks...also the rude comments to other people is not helping either

Rhiannon
03-10-2004, 04:42 PM
Darkness, as I told you in PMs, I have no idea why you would create this kind of topic. Whether or not you do extras is your business. BUT, when you bring it into a club and it influences the way that customers act with other dancers, or clearly breaks the rules of the club, it&#039;s wrong. No way around it.

If you&#039;re offended at our comments, sorry. BUT, this topic is quite offensive to us. The majority of us on the site do not provide extras. Although we don&#039;t put others down for it, if we&#039;re faced with it, we try to fix the problem in our clubs. Fact is, I don&#039;t want some guy trying something that he&#039;s tried with someone like you, because he&#039;s under the impression that everyone does it. A lot of us feel this way, and will most certainly inform them that it is against club rules.

In my experience (11 years), The dancers who provide extras, are popular for only that reason. They are far from being the prettiest, sexiest, etc. Sure, they bank, but not for their dancing ability.

Lexi
03-10-2004, 06:22 PM
I told her in PMs, too, that from the SOUND of the thread, it seemed as if she did extras. But she says thats not the case: that other girls do more and she does some sort of grinding and they tell on her.

Wow, and Rhiannon, that last statement, about the most popular not always being the most beautiful is very true. lol

MotherDaisy
03-10-2004, 07:27 PM
To Darkness, yes I agree the girls are quick to defend the SW reputation and protect the site from trolls, but you may want to take a closer look at what they are saying.

If you are as nice to the other dancers as you are to the girls on this site it is no wonder you have ladies jumping at the chance to get you into trouble. Maybe it is not about your innocent looking extra&#039;s, maybe it is your attitute.

I am good looking and make a ton of money as well, but I try hard to win the confidence of my fellow dancers so we can have fun and help each other out.

Maybe you are trying to get others in trouble as well or it&#039;s a revenge thing. Who knows??

My advice, don&#039;t get defensive with SW or with the girls at your club, just lay off the touching and try to find the source of the rumors.

CrescentLuna
03-10-2004, 08:16 PM
Darkness, if the other dancers are doing the same thing why don&#039;t you tattle on them or use the "oh? I can&#039;t do that? But x, y, and z do that all the time manager!" line. But, if you are doing something tattle-worthy, REGARDLESS of whether or not other dancers do the same thing, you are breaking the rules.
You insinuate that since we work in the sex industry, that we are obviously aware of the fact our work is sexual in nature, we should be willing to do, or at least turn a blind eye to girls in our clubs that do, anything sexual you define as "okay." This is NOT a concept I&#039;d like in a co-worker, here&#039;s why:
darkness: Manager! Luna is dancing NAKED in the vip room! guys can see her snatch!
manager: uh.. okay.. is she outside of the booth?
darkness: yeah...
manager: so what&#039;s your point?
-later-
Me: Manager! darkness is letting guys touch her breasts in the VIP room.
-Manager fines darkness for violation of rules-

It isn&#039;t a question of personal boundaries, it&#039;s a question of playing fair.

Pan Dah
03-10-2004, 08:57 PM
if another dancer is letting guys get away with things why do other dancers seem so eager to tell on them,why can&#039;t they mind there own buisness?




well none of you know me,i&#039;m not an "extra&#039;s" kind of gal! i don&#039;t have to be. my crotch is never seen nor touched either! you guys are quick to jump someone&#039;s back,just because they have different ideas and opinions!give me a break!do you understand that we chose to take our clothes off for a living!hello,do you think we are respected for that? i simply stated that a glide of the hand isn&#039;t gonna kill you! you all respond with a prudy attiude the same crap i deal with at work! if you would read clearly i stated that girls are doing the same thing i&#039;m doing and i&#039;m the one getting tattled on!what the freak is up with that?!? hatin on the popular dancer is what they are doing!


You started this thread with a post that provided no useful information on the situation and was blatently looking for a fight.

You got one.

Now you&#039;re surprised and offended?