View Full Version : So heres the scoop on Scores West
chase6
06-25-2004, 10:12 AM
Diva- read the daily news. 6 cases out of millions of customers. To me that's not a very big number of complaints. BUT like everything else that goes on there, they make BIG headlines !!From what I hear, 3 have already gone away. One to Bagladesh!
You know the shit that happens in that place where else can you make that kind of money. 128,000 dollars is a lot of money !!!You just don't hear of it .You know how much clrk spent in that club, way more!!! You don't see that at any other club you know all about the rats that used to be there. The poor innocent people that got hurt in the club.The club was run way better when they went to jail and we made more money!! When your making that kind of money the house fee seems like nothing. I left Scores I'll be back sooner or later. Here is something you don't know I was there the night Richard Goldring and john neilson were having dinner with the owners Spearmint Rhino they are trying to buy the westside and eastside and scores name than they asked me to leave. I can tell you this Spearmint Rhino can definitely afford to buy scores and their name. They have big big bucks!! I know Scores has a 20 yr lease and they own the building on the west side. It make sense to me that there may even be a merger. I have worked there since chris murray worked there. I'm ready to retire thanks to scores .Yeah thier scmbgs but who isn't in this business. I made my money!!!!!!!
O.K. dallas stay at pec you definetly fit right in over there you still need to get help.Retire in peace!!!!
The_Kid
06-25-2004, 11:36 AM
Chase- your eloquence is astounding. Enjoy your weekend.
Roxana
06-28-2004, 02:19 PM
Hey Guys!
So I'm in NYC from Vegas, strated on Saturday @ Scores West. The Place was UNBELIEVABLE! It was packed! Not 1 empty chair! I had an GREAT night, made lots of $$$$. So who ever is talking all that garbage about the club, please STOP!
It's a beautiful club, management is great, the housefees are almost non-existant, and no pressure from the hosts! I love the place!
Girls, I'll keep you updated !!!!!
The_Kid
06-29-2004, 10:54 AM
Roxana- You are absolutely right ! The worst thing you could possibly do is educate yourself and open your
mind to other points of view. No wonder you've found
such a happy home at Scores.
SpinKitty
06-29-2004, 11:00 AM
Oh so now only uneducated dancers work for Score's - whatever Kid, you've got issues. BIG ONES!
Both PEC & Scores are A+ clubs. This rivalry going on here is flat out tacky and ridiculous. Get over yourselves people ::)
The_Kid
06-29-2004, 11:20 AM
SpinKitty- Just a moment please . I did NOT say that
and your interpretation is overbroad. BUT I do say
that too many customers go to Scores and too many
dancers work there BEFORE they "educate" themselves
about how things really are.
In the past I have met a number of dancers who were
both "ladies" AND well spoken AND well educated.
Not having been there for quite some time if all I have
to go by is the type of people "Chafe" and "Slow Lane"
APPEAR to be from the type of intellectually lazy
garbage they like to post; then I would argue that
the hiring standards at Scores have declined. BTW- I
am NOT the only one that says so.
chase6
06-29-2004, 01:16 PM
kidney they told me the story on you sheep in wolves clothing. caught recruiting in the club two yrs ago. pretending to be something your not.
KICKED YOU TO THE DOOR.
Roxana
06-29-2004, 03:08 PM
the_kid,
Other points of view? you mean YOUR POINT OF VIEW! NO THANKS BUDDY!!!!!!!!!
I like the place, why would you try to convince me of something different?
The_Kid
06-30-2004, 08:34 AM
Roxana- I can't convince YOU of anything. I doubt that
anyone could. Pardon me, but if you like it at Scores-
FINE ; GREAT ; WONDERFUL ; BULLY FOR YOU and
HAVE A TIME.
Perhaps even you can recognize that there are other
readers and posters besides yourself who have
differing opinions about Scores and/or would prefer
to read about certain things about the place BEFORE
they have to learn the hard way and find out for themselves. BTW- dancers and customers seriously
considering Scores might want to take into account
THE FACT that Roxana, Chase and Lane have NEVER
posted a word responding or disputing such things
as the high house fees & tip-outs ; the bouncers &
hosts (with their "steering", "cutting in ", "shutting out"
and KICKBACKS for VIP & C.R.) or the fact that most, not
all but most "newbies" at Scores don't return after
1 or 2 nights.
CHAFE- I'll say one thing: You certainly have a very
active imagination. Who is the mysterious "they"
who allegedly told you about me? They told you I was
"caught recruiting in the club two years ago pretending
to be something that ( I'm ) not " did they ? Do you
have any idea how pathetically ridiculous you make
yourself look by posting such silly nonsense ?
O.K. I'll humor you. Recruiting for whom please ? PEC,
where I am supposedly the SHHHHHH ! real "secret
owner"?
Let me ask you something. How would you like it if
someone posted that you worked in the "underground
scene" or that they've HEARD that you are the highest
mileage dancer with the most "extras" at Scores ?
Before you get an attack of the "vapors" or start foaming at the mouth; I am NOT saying any such thing
about you. I'm just asking you how you'd feel if such
(presumably) UNTRUE things were posted about YOU
or friend of yours ? You wouldn't like it would you ?
You'd consider it to be unfair, to say the least, correct?
And you wouldn't have any respect for someone who
would do such a thing, would you ?
So why do you feel entitled to do the exact same thing
yourself?
kellyallstar
06-30-2004, 08:59 AM
sometimes it actually takes a dancer to go to a place and work there herself to find out the truth, if she likes it or not, not matter what other people say, especially non dancers. Some girls just might not mind paying the high tip out. Yeah I like to find out the inside scope in a club, thats just me, but I'll go to the club anyway. Unless your've actually danced there (or your a dancer who's been in the circuit a while), really alot of girls are not going to pay attention to the stuff you say.
The_Kid
06-30-2004, 09:07 AM
Kellyallstar- You're absolutely right ! And after trying
Scores for themselves 1 of 2 things will happen: Either
they will fit in ; make a lot of money and be glad that
they checked it out for themselves OR more likely, they will be sorry that they wasted their time and in a few
extreme cases- wasted their money. That's right ! In
a few cases the dancer ends up OWING Scores money
at the end of a long hard night.
Roxana
06-30-2004, 10:02 AM
K-I-D-D-O,
Just as I posted yesterday, I like the place. I'm a new dancer to Scores West and don't have any problems with house fees and tip outs, and like I said yesterday I don't get harrassed by the staff! I'm posting my personal experience at Scores West and not forcing anyone to agree or disagree. To each it's own! For me personally, I found a place where I make great money and get treated well by management and staff, and I'm sure I'm not the only one!
So once again, take it easy with talking TRASH!!!!!
The_Kid
06-30-2004, 10:39 AM
Roxana- A genuine THANK YOU & CONGRATULATIONS for being the first "Scores girl" in quite some time to give us a rational, intelligent post giving your opinions and impressions about Scores without fabricating any nonsense or attacking anyone else. I'm glad that you're doing well and are happy there and wish you continued success.
CHASE- Now do you see how it's done ?!?! Why can't you post like Roxana just did ?
The_Kid
06-30-2004, 10:56 AM
Chase- I'll tell you what I'm willing to do and what I've
previously offered - let's agree to disagree about
Scores. You have your opinions; I have mine.
Anyone- dancer or customer - who wants to check out
Scores for themselves can and will do so. What I have to say won't stop them and what you have to say
probably won't affect their decision either.They'll either
like it there or they won't. They'll either stay there or move on.
So rather than respond in kind to your latest diatribe
I will extend the "olive branch". If you can exercise
just a little bit of " Good Grace" you'll take it and stop
attacking me with fictional nonsense. If not, I'll keep
giving back what you send. It's up to you.
chase6
06-30-2004, 11:50 AM
Chase- I'll tell you what I'm willing to do and what I've
previously offered - let's agree to disagree about
Scores. You have your opinions; I have mine.
Anyone- dancer or customer - who wants to check out
Scores for themselves can and will do so. What I have to say won't stop them and what you have to say
probably won't affect their decision either.They'll either
like it there or they won't. They'll either stay there or move on.
So rather than respond in kind to your latest diatribe
I will extend the "olive branch". If you can exercise
just a little bit of " Good Grace" you'll take it and stop
attacking me with fictional nonsense. If not, I'll keep
giving back what you send. It's up to you.
kid fiction works both ways .while I a disagree with you most of the time this is the first time YOU don' t SOUND LIKE A COPORATE SCHILL . I WOULD LOVE TO EXCEPT AN OLIVE BRANCH FROM YOU, BUT I KNOW IT COMES WITH THORNES. So lets just leave at that . when you write your diatribe i'll write mine. ;D lol chase!!!
The_Kid
06-30-2004, 01:20 PM
Chase- Thank you for the moderate tone of your response. My offer of a "truce" based on mutual
respect does NOT have any "thorns". Even my strongest
opponents and worst critics have NEVER accused me of
deliberate lying or fabrication. And if, btw, I should
inadvertently post something that was factually
incorrect or did not clearly distinguish between
fact and opinion I would WELCOME a fact-based reply
from you or anyone else. It would not be the first time
I acknowledged an inaccuracy or tried to clear up
a misimpression.
Come on CHASE ! You don't even have to meet me
half-way. Just try to lay off the personal attacks and
try to show a LITTLE respect for differing views.
I'm serious. I'm tired of the squabbling & bickering.
Just try it and see what happens. I might surprise
you with my ability to take a joke.
LANE- this applies to you as well.
Prina
06-30-2004, 01:28 PM
will you guys shut up about this already..sheeesh
chase6
06-30-2004, 01:47 PM
will you guys shut up about this already..sheeesh
AMEN TO THAT
The_Kid
06-30-2004, 02:07 PM
Chase- Suit yourself. Stay in the gutter but you'll be
there by yourself. I'm going to try and take the "high
road" anyway. It's a lot less muddy.
chase6
06-30-2004, 02:30 PM
Chase- Suit yourself. Stay in the gutter but you'll be
there by yourself. I'm going to try and take the "high
road" anyway. It's a lot less muddy.
O.K
chase6
06-30-2004, 02:41 PM
Chase- Suit yourself. Stay in the gutter but you'll be
there by yourself. I'm going to try and take the "high
road" anyway. It's a lot less muddy.
O.K
KID DONT GET ANGRY OR I'LLHAVE TO SEND YOU TO YOUR ROOM!!!!
Prina
06-30-2004, 03:30 PM
Wow..I'm impressed!!! Mr. kid has soo much Passion!!
Geez..it is just a friggin club.
Bombshell69
06-30-2004, 11:35 PM
What is going on here?... okay it seems to me that the time and economy has a lot to do with what's going on now as well as your attitudes. Went to penthouse tonight tonight to audition and got hired but didn't work so I hang out to watch the club. The club was very beautiful for a NY club and the best I've seen in NYC. Girls were beautiful and average. I was surprise to see or not really... a lot of scores girls I worked with a week ago there working.......... They were very selective and I was happy I got hired even thou I'm wearth in and inthe club best interest because either of us took a chance. I watch the club volume from the bar and saw a busy club went from slow to dead with abouth 100 dancers. I also saw a few familiar faces ( customers from scores ) so I'm guessing business is slow/bad everywhere...... but I will give this club a chance... you never know what the future might hold. However I've witness staff not dancers scamming the customers at scores west & east and will find out if it goes on at penthouse too. Scores Miami open next week and it's nude....................... you won't ever see me there............ Maybe all the clubs have been a whore house and I was too blind to see it or it's more open then ever or both and as always no mather what the intention on who ever got into the business it all comes down to money $$$ then it al comes down to the dancer/whore decision? how much does my life depends on this? how greedy I'm I? how much more secure this extra income $$$ makes a difference? why I'm I here in this life? what purpose do I serve? they the people I sacrifice myself or life style for worth it? is this what I really want? what shall I gain from this and how much does it worth to me? is it really worth it? why? why? why? whY me? why was I born? this cannot be my purpose? why was I born? do not not pity me... pity yourselves... worry for yourselves incase you may have a heart? what is that anyway? from what I see all take what they need and move on and maybe that's all they've got to do to stay alive and keep their insanity. Do you think you're special? if you do that's good... maybe you're not better than anyone else regardless but at least you honoe yourself. You be strong and hang in there but don't loose yourselves. Maybe you should see the writing n the wall but it's possible you may not understand because experience is almost everything but it can also be taught by others experience as a protection oe preventive measure but also have to be carefull of being brain washed. I do hope you get what I'm saying. May the good lord have mercy on your sole but for god sake........... we arew the lost soles... Make the very best of it but don't you ever loose your sole.
Bombshell69
07-01-2004, 12:17 AM
Roxana - good to have you here in NY, will you stay beyond 2 weeks or is that your limit? glad you're doing well and can hold your own. If you're lucky to make a lot of funny money which means going to private rooms each night you work on your own without sucking or fucking anyone then you'll experience the 2-3 week post dated checks before leaving and having to worry about them bouncing... ( if only you were lucky to make it because it's what you'll need is luck! ) to me a good night is leaving with over $1000 after fees, tip-out and scores 10% on funny money and don't forget... estimated tax as Melonie kindly reminds us all... Trust me her wisdom comes from experience...
Pamela
07-01-2004, 07:50 AM
Scores Miami will have to be all nude to put up with the other clubs competetion. Scores is no fool.
I will be there "grand Opening." Anyone else?
Pamela
Sitara7817
07-05-2004, 01:52 PM
my god! . . . my head hurts from all the shouting! as everyone knows i have worked at both. . . just from the econimic standpoint (house fee's, tip and such) it is better than score's. . . and ill agree with chrissy. . . all our new girls are from Scores. . . even Diva has joined the "flock" . . (i meet her on thurs) It is , what it is. . . if you like scores, stay there . . . but, i LOVE Pec. . and will not go anywhere else. . @ just to clear up an few things. . the host DO try to get money from you in certian ways. . .if they know that you won't tip them they git other girls that will. (only one or two do this). .eventually they end up having "cliques" (as i stated before) of girls who take care of them for "hooking" them up with a customer. . . bouncer's also. . . but if my customer tipped you. . why should i? thats why i have my own "group" of girls and host's who i will deal with. . . one's that won't try that. . . but overall i have had the best experience here. . . mang. is considerate to your personal life. . not only you being at work. . . if you have a problem they will help you. . . i live a 100 miles from here, but travel every week to work. . . that in itself says something. . .
The_Kid
07-05-2004, 03:04 PM
Sitara- There is a difference between "tipping" a host
or bouncer who helped you land a "big fish" in the VIP
and being extorted into paying them just so you can do
your job.
BTW- I'm not crazy about DANCERS tipping hosts & bouncers for doing THEIR job but that's up to you gals.
BTW- since you worked at Scores and KNOW what
went on there - WHY engage in behavior that might
encourage a bouncer to "INSIST" on being tipped ?
If anyone's going to tip him- let it be the customer IMO.
kellyallstar
07-05-2004, 04:25 PM
I don't get why dancers have to tip dj's, hosts and bouncers. Aren't they paid to work there?
Yes I left scores and I'm now working at penthouse and doing well. Also a lot of the top girls left scores as well and are now working at penthouse within the last 2-3 weeks and other staff from scores have been coming to penthouse checking to see how girls are there. I'm an independent contractor and for me it's all about the money $$$ and my high rollers use amex and I can't afford to take a pay cut at all. I live a certain life style and have a kid who want to go to NYU or Princeton so it all comes down to money $$$. I worked saturday and did very well 2 hours in private room considering it was a slow night July 4th weekend. I always leave a club on good terms carefull not to burn any bridges. As far as the extras ( it goes on in every club ) I certainly won't do it and don't care who does as long as it doesn't mess up my money or others looking to get a cut of my money. If a host helps me then I always tip 10%, if a girl helps me then I do the same as well.
Sitara7817
07-10-2004, 11:15 AM
the kid. . . I don’t "insist" on tipping the bouncer. . . but a lot of customers do. . . my only point is that I am defiantly not going to give him anything (especially!!!) if my customer does. . . FYI- the bouncers open and slam the doors so the customer will tip them. . . that’s how they make extra money!. . .lol by being annoying. . . . and to clear up my "tipping situation with the hosts" they know I don’t give money out. . . BUT if you throw something my way . .ill return the favor . .. When my customer comes in to see me. . . I will notify you a day in advance and tell you what time. . . so you can get the business. . . @ HIS tip. . .not mine. . . .
DIVA THANKS FOR MAKING ROOM FOR THE YOUNGER GIRLS SO THEY COULD HAVE THIER CHANCE AT MAKING THE BIG MONEY YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE VERY NICE GUYS WHO ARE KNOW MY CUSTOMERS P.S. IM SORRY YOU COULD;NT GET IN ON TUES. I GUESS YOUR BRIDGE WENT UP IN FLAMES!!!!!OUT WITH THE OLD AND IN WITH THE NEW!! I HOPE YOUR AS GOOD FOR PETHOUSE AS YOU WERE FOR SCORES
Chase I'm not sure what you mean by your comment or why you feel the need to attack me because I left scores and moved on to Penthouse Executive Club, I've never said anything negative about scores but only good if you read the threads I post on, I worked there for years and left on good terms incase I decide to ever go back. It's like Tinkle Linkle & Sitara7817 said "both Scores & Penthouse are good clubs" and by the way I'm not old ever heard of a teenage mom?and I have very loyal customers who follow me to any club I dance at to see me ( I'm talking black amex ). All week long I see the top dancers ( money makers ) from scores east working at Penthouse. 8)
Chase, you are a very angry and sad woman to "hate" people you have never met. Why are you so miserable. Why would I hate you, I don't know you, you are always fighting with everyone on all threads. And as far as minding my own biz, I usually do, but when you put your business online for the world to see, it is public information darling.
OK I am bored with you now, moving on, its Saturday night and I am going to enjoy with my girls and not worrying about who "hates" me online. Ciao!
:sad: :ashamed: :bigmouth: :bomb: :bitelip: :butthead: :devil: :duck: :fight: :fight: :fight:
Bombshell69
07-11-2004, 05:04 AM
I still work at scores west because I have a lot of funny money which I can only cash in when I work and they only cash in mon thru friday but not always. They only cash in between the hours 8pm to 9pm. So how come you get to cash yours at 11pm and come in to work so late when shift starts at 7pm & 8pm.
To be honest, applying different rules to different dancers has been Scores operating mode for years. Certain girls were always allowed to walk in anytime they wanted to and start working, while other girls were assigned to specific shifts on specific days. I haven't heard about Scores applying different rules in regard to funny money cash-ins before, but it's not all that surprising.
Actually, it's very arguable that Scores refusal to cash in funny money is illegal. The dancer lawsuits against the VIP club have also created publicity for this issue with local courts/law enforcement.
Melonie I think you meant January 2005
Yes I certainly did, thank you. The intent of that post was to remind out of town dancers that the American Express customer lawsuits against Scores are going to force an official investigation of Scores business records as part of those court cases. It's extremely likely that those investigations will turn up the real names and addresses of dancers who have worked/are working for Scores. Because they are running huge budget deficits and need every tax dollar that they can find, it's then extremely likely that the New York State tax dep't and the City of New York Income Tax bureau are going to track down the names and SS#'s found in Scores club records to see if they filed and paid NY State and NYC local income taxes.
This is where I truely jump ship... perfect time for a long summer vacation.
Melonie
07-11-2004, 04:26 PM
This is where I truely jump ship... perfect time for a long summer vacation.
Yup, my sentiments exactly - especially with the new NYC councilwoman from Chelsea stirring up the issue of west side strip clubs, and with the Republican convention coming to NYC next month.
lalalatina
07-12-2004, 09:22 AM
Will the Republican covention, bring in some much needed extra business to the NYC clubs?
Melonie
07-12-2004, 10:58 AM
Will the Republican covention, bring in some much needed extra business to the NYC clubs?
Undoubtedly! However, like the Super Bowl it will also very likely prompt some pre-event police attention in the clubs just to reduce the possibility of a juicy stripper related scandal making national headlines.
lalalatina
07-13-2004, 09:55 AM
I can understand that.
daphned
07-13-2004, 09:56 AM
so should i roll out ther to nyc scores west for the republican convention or what? pittsburgh is booty..
allaboutny
07-13-2004, 02:30 PM
I really don't know what you're talking about. I was there this weekend and the place was packed and the girls were all AAA+++. The music was killer and the girls appeared to be making fistfulls of money. The place is first class in looks and ambiance. I think perhaps this board is being used by Scores' competition to scare people and the girls away. However, there's no way to beat the #1 Club in America, so trying to do that won't work. Girls, I would say go down and see for yourself. What's to lose?
And I think that lots of people from both clubs come on here to hype it up. Sure, both are good clubs, but there are SOOOO many posters on these Scores/PEC threads that dont post anywhere else but here.
Maybe you guys should try and make it less obvious.
And I think that lots of people from both clubs come on here to hype it up. Sure, both are good clubs, but there are SOOOO many posters on these Scores/PEC threads that dont post anywhere else but here.
Maybe you guys should try and make it less obvious.
as if...and they are not even smart about it :dunce: (soo many "one posters" )
sexmachine
07-18-2004, 07:44 PM
News to me!...