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desertdoll
11-24-2004, 06:16 AM
I found there to be an enhancing effect to 1-3 drinks, and diminishing returns after that, depending on the rate at which they are consumed. Now...some nights those drinks are alcoholic, other times they are coffee. :)

I am 4'11", a stocky/sturdy 100 lbs, and 32D-21-32. 1/2 Hawaiian, dark brown hair, and hyper as hell. I can't tell if I look cute, amusing, or pathetic when I'm buzzed/hyper-caffeinated, and whether people pay me out of entertainment or pity when I start mixing dancing and chemistry. I just tend to feel better and less inhibited naked when I've been sucking on an enhanced beverage, and I have an excuse if i tumble while stomping around in shoes that add a full 10% to my height.

--dd

desertdoll
11-24-2004, 06:19 AM
I definitely have to have a drink before I deal with those men. LOL
;) Very nicely put. It's not the job, it's *those* (not all, but *those*) men.

We need beer goggles too. I never thought about it that way. All this time I thought I sometimes looked to find inhibition in the bottom of a glass...it's actually *patience* I'm sucking through that straw.

Hot.

--dd

CaliDancer
11-25-2004, 06:03 PM
i have more confidence when i have a drink or two but i have to watch out not to talk too much:o)

cottoncandy
11-26-2004, 11:09 AM
I drink a little- maybe 1 or 2 rums and coke most times I work (if 2 maybe 3 hours or more apart)- but occasionally don't drink at all. (I'm small and didn't drink much in the past so that gives me a buzz but I'm not really drunk.) I drink because a few customers said I acted nervous (which made them less comfortable) when I have a converstaion with them. Having a drink makes me more relaxed and I talk and dance slower. I keep trying to talk and dance slower without it but it's hard for me since my personality is sort of shy and sort of energetic.

It's funny I've noticed that the dancers in my club who seem to do the best are the ones who seem the most comfortable with dancing and being very slowly sensual with the customers.
I was wondering is it bad to have 1 rum and coke (and occasionally 2) 3 times a week in the long run? Is there any other way to get a similar relaxed and slowed effect without drinking. (I've tried breathing deeply but I'm not seeing much results with it.)
Thanks!

Miss Jessica
11-26-2004, 08:53 PM
I love to drink at work, but it really doesn't help me make money. I can get really mean to customers, and lazy quickly. So if I want to drink I wait until after I've made my money, like an hour or two before my shifts over.

GoldCoastGirl
11-27-2004, 02:05 AM
cottoncandy, if you do find the need to have a drink.... why not have a glass of red wine? Red wine is one of the few alcoholic beverages if consumed a few times a week is okay for you and actually has some health benefits for you. Are you able to do that?

Or even mix it up if it's a cheap red wine with some coke of something.

LisaLee
11-27-2004, 09:10 AM
I didnt used to be this way at all....I used to never drink at work for years but now that I live in vegas, its as tho to have any courage to hustle, I have to drink. It seems to be the only way I can come out of my shell while in a club with hundreds of girls....
am I the only one that seems to become more capeable of making money while intoxicated???

Tori, I make a TON more while under the liquid courage myself, so no, you're not alone on that one..... :)

GoldCoastGirl
11-28-2004, 12:01 AM
I learnt that whenever my confidence is under-minded (sp?) that having a shot or a vodka, lime and soda does wonders for me..... learnt this last night. I was feeling little like the average girl.. little miss girl next door... compared to some of the stunners who were working that night (Saturday)... so to help my mind "get over" comparing myself (under-mining myself)... I had the vodka, lime and soda.

That's all I had.. all night... 10pm until 4.30am .... it worked. As a rule of thumb, I do my work sober. Only times I have a drink is when my confidence needs a boost.... ie new girl in a club and so forth.

Vyanka
11-28-2004, 10:41 AM
I have to have at least one or maybe even two, to get me in a very flirtatious mood & fake the "i'm so into you" attitude, lol. ::) And I can be a bit shy sometimes too. :P

tampafldancer
11-28-2004, 11:00 AM
i am the so freaking shy its unbelievable!!!!

and drinking doesnt help :(

Vyanka
11-28-2004, 11:07 AM
i am the so freaking shy its unbelievable!!!!

and drinking doesnt help :(At times, me too. You can try to blank everything out of your head. Like when you were a kid doing a school play, what teachers use to tell you....make believe the audience is in their underwear. LOL THat's what I do, and it helps with a little alcohol of course, lol.

heidi
11-29-2004, 12:31 PM
Tori, I make a TON more while under the liquid courage myself, so no, you're not alone on that one..... :)
me too... it seems i am much more shy when i am stone cold sober... and i find myself hanging in the dressing room making 1,000 excuses why i can't find anyone to ask for a dance when i'm not drinking... when i'm drinking i'm more social ( ok i admit it drink 4-5 glasses of wine... and sometimes a couple of shots over the course of the night)... can dance better and am less tense... and my manager loves me b/c i make the bar money with drink revenue.

242_fair
12-03-2004, 09:07 PM
Ok, these are my confessions:

Lately I need more and more liquor to get through the night. I havn't worked in a week and a half, but on my last night at the club, I had 4-5 drinks, then drove home. Its not the first time I drove tipsy, but this time I was DRUNK!!

The bumper of my car was cracked the next day, and I can't say for sure that I didn't hit something myself - but maybe it got hit when parked, I dunno.

I'm gonna try to drink less. From now on. Max 3 drinks a night.

violet st. claire
12-05-2004, 03:00 AM
when i first started dancing (a whopping 4 months ago) i would drink almost every night-- guys would buy me drink after drink, but not dance after dance, and i was basicly going on dates instead of doing my job.

one night, about two months in, it was especially slow, and no one bought me drinks. i had so much energy, ran around having a blast, took everyone's money when i was on stage, and enjoyed my job for the first time since the first week or two. i drank a few times after that, but i was so thrilled with how amazing it felt to be sober that i quit altogether.

i am a very energetic dancer-- my stage sets draw a crowd even when other girls are not making tips-- and when i drank i often came off of stage drenched in sweat! gross! of course, i would immediately run to the dressing room, wipe myself down, spritz on body spray, and grab some water, so by the time i got back on the floor, a new girl had captured the crowd. now, when my last song is over, i wipe the sweat off of my face, find the person who tipped the most or seemed the most enthusiastic, and get to table dancing. people will watch from across the room, and as i keep their attention, i can sell dances to them later.

i also spent way too much time being concerned over one guy or table when i drank-- after all, they were supplying the drinks. once i was buzzed, i no longer wanted to dance, so i would spend hours trying to hustle vips, sometimes getting them, and sometimes not. now i rarely do vips, but i make money because i have more energy to be a dancer instead of a drinking buddy.

now, i'm naturally social, flirtacious, and hyper-- i understand that many girls who are shy need to loosen up a bit to work well, and i totally respect that. i'm just telling you what worked for me.

also, at my club, if we drive (as opposed to being dropped off and picked up), our keys are taken as soon as we get there, and we have to pass a breathalizer test to get them back. i think this is absolutely wonderful-- especially considering several girls who get falling down, throwing up, yelling, screaming, passing out (and in one case, being hospitalized for alcohol poisoning after she stopped breathing in the dressing room!) drunk on a regular basis. while i understand having some drinks, or even occasionally getting drunk and cutting loose, i do see girls around me who have a serious problem with alcohol that far outweighs any illicit drug use i see in my club.

FoxyRoxIt
12-06-2004, 04:07 AM
I always drink at work, not to get drunk, just somewhere between buzzed and tipsy. I can work stone cold sober, but I'm generally more flirty when I drink a little. I've never made an ass of myself though. Some dancers will actually pay for their first drink, to get going. Not me, I'll only drink if a custie's buying

Jenny
12-07-2004, 12:47 PM
there's a huge difference between drinking and being intoxicated. Nobody makes money while they're hammered.
I do. I'm not saying this is a desirable way to be, and I don't drink a lot in general. But when one is working on a drink commission, one makes more money drinking real drinks (as opposed to tequila flavoured water) - and one makes even more money drinking shots - because they are gone faster, and they're fun (for some bizarre reason guys like a girl who will slap her hand down on the table and say "Alright! Let's do some shots!" I don't get it either - I prefer the martini look myself). And (you see, it's a vicious cycle) the more money you make, the more drunk you get. Although I agree you do have a optimal place of drinkiness - it can go too far.

Lady
12-10-2004, 02:32 AM
I NEVER drink, not even at home

leeah
12-14-2004, 01:35 AM
I never drink at work, I feel that i'm there to work work work and just make $ and I can't do that if i'm drinking (it makes me lazy and feels like i'm "out" instead of at work.) I feel like-hey I wouldn't be drinking at a "normal" job so I shouldn't be doing it at the club- i save it for actually being out with friends.

tampadancer
12-15-2004, 10:58 AM
I find it depends on my mood. Sometimes not drinking keeps me super-focused on opening wallets, emptying them, and sending patrons to ATM's :). Other times, I think that having a drink or two helps. For me, what it comes down to is the TYPE of customers you are dealing with. A younger or party-type group is easier to work if i am having a drink along with them. If I am having an intelligent conversation with a businessman or older gentleman, I'll stick to bottled water.

(btw, when I order a water, i always give the bartender a few extra bucks - i know they HATE it when girls drink water :) keeps everyone happy that way )

Dreamy Life
12-28-2004, 04:33 AM
When I get to work I drink one drink before I go on stage. Sometimes there is not enough time. But I feel more at ease after a drink. Then after I go on stage I try to do as many dances as I can. After about four hours I have another one just so I can keep my motivation going. Then I am good to go. I just keep on dancin!

livenudegirlsunite
12-28-2004, 06:09 PM
It's not the job, it's *those* (not all, but *those*) men.

...it's actually *patience* I'm sucking through that straw.
As much as I hate to admit it, I am not at work today because I drank too much yesterday. It does help me to be more patient with the customers. I hate drinking when I'm at work. It makes me so mad that I am so weak. I try really hard not to get stinking drunk any more; but I still drink more than I should.

toxicgirl
12-29-2004, 09:24 AM
dont drink at work. i cant have just one. most of the peeps at my work are pretty understanding though

livenudegirlsunite
12-29-2004, 03:54 PM
Thorn - I am going to try not drinking more than one or two drinks today (maybe none-we'll see). I have been thinking about trying low contact again. I think that it would be a refreshing change. :)

tori_b19
01-05-2005, 11:33 PM
I have to admit, I can and have done the job sober, however...... I am more tolerant when I have a SLIGHT buzz, more chatty, and more flirty and I make easily twice the money..... I have gone overboard a few times though!! Funny though, the nights I have gotten wasted I have made a lot of money!! Guys think that if they buy you lots of drinks and give you a lot of money they are for sure going home with you, so you have to know your limits!

blondhottie
01-06-2005, 02:12 AM
I have to admit, I can and have done the job sober, however...... I am more tolerant when I have a SLIGHT buzz, more chatty, and more flirty and I make easily twice the money..... I have gone overboard a few times though!! Funny though, the nights I have gotten wasted I have made a lot of money!! Guys think that if they buy you lots of drinks and give you a lot of money they are for sure going home with you, so you have to know your limits!

Same here!

julzgulz
01-06-2005, 02:28 AM
One or a couple don't hurt me, but having anything over 3 will slow me down. I will bullshit with guys to long and not even realise it.

Little story: I worked at a club for not so long. All the girls got drunk there and they told me the goal to making more money was getting drunk. So I got drunk every nite I worked there and never made over $400. On top of that, I went home in tears everyday because of men thinking I was a stupid drunk.

blondhottie
01-07-2005, 09:03 PM
Tori, Blonde, I'll tell you the same thing I tell people who tell me they drive better with a couple of belts in them... "Da Nile ain't just a river in Egypt."

I wish you well...

Thorn, I don't have to drink to work. I can work without drinking at all, and I have done so many times. I just feel like I make more money once I've had a couple drinks. I feel like I dance better, and I'm more flirtatious and outgoing. I don't drive home from work either-I have a friend who does not drink at all to drive me.

Emiliana
01-07-2005, 11:25 PM
man i suck when i drink at work...I THNK im more sexy and personable...only to realize when i sober up that i should be embarassed for myself...i feel like everyone is staring at me stumbling around and looking retarded on stage...granted my profession may not garner a lot of respect but its MUCH worse when your a "dumb drunk stripper"....ive driven home drunk,made no money, fallen on the floor and stage, fucked up lapdances, lost my contacts, shoes, clothes and respect of friends.....bad bad bad...one irish coffee,wine or shot is all i can handle
I don't think im gonna drink at work anymore, not only because i come from a family of alcoholics and it could be a problem, but i promised myself that if i couldnt do my job perfectly and with no help sober then i would quit for my own sake.....
sorry that was so long i just felt like ranting

gypsy_girlchild
01-08-2005, 03:47 PM
I drink every night, but I do no drugs at all.... So I work better? Sure, I am more confident than I would be without drinking, I don't drive either and never will... I think everyone makes their own choices how they handle this job.. I don't get anrgy or sloppy when I driunk, but I def. feel that I need it to work. Is that awful? I don't really care, I have been dancing for nearly 5 years and don't over drink at work, but I still have a few before and during...
People can make their own response to that, but why should we judge anyone? It's legal and I am a lotmore confortable talking to men I normally would run away from if they touched me.
It's a job, I enjoy it sometimes and sometimes I don't, but that's the life of every job.

Bijou
01-09-2005, 12:46 AM
Drinking! Yes please! I drink not for courage I drink to make the patrons more interesting.

LilRogueVixen
01-09-2005, 11:45 AM
doesn't alchohol cause weight gain? if you drink you much you might get a little belly. (i don't know if liquor does cause weight gain though...)

gypsy_girlchild
01-09-2005, 12:32 PM
I think we burn up a lot of the alcohol when we're dancing.... As for a belly, I do pilates to make sure I don't get a belly... I don't think liquor has the same amount of calories that beer does, plus girlie drinks have TONS of sugar so they don't help the body too much either.

silver69
01-09-2005, 07:59 PM
I like a drink only if the guy buys it, then I loosen up slightly. If I tell him his drink made me woozy. (they love to hear this) I then ask him if he wants a private dance? 90% success rate. act tipsy it works!!!!!}:D }:D }:D

GoldCoastGirl
01-10-2005, 01:54 AM
I only drink when the customer (read: customer) buys me one. A patron cannot buy me one - they must have purchased a private/lap dance from me (or at least be on the way to one given by me) in order for me to say YES. I then only order vodka, lime and soda. I then take a few sips to show I am consuming it.... yet the sipping is small and I don't take that many... then I go out back... and dump the drink.

I really really dislike drinking whilst working. I like to work sober. There have only been a few rare occasions where I wanted a drink to get me through the night/shift.

Bridgette
01-10-2005, 09:32 AM
I used to drink at work, sometimes very little, sometimes alot depending on the situation. When I worked a club with heavy emphasis on vip room and champagne sales (at one club we got more money for selling expensive champagne) I drank more, obviously. It was part of the hustle. At most clubs though, I tended to limit my drinking to 3 drinks per night and concentrate on selling. I would never refuse a drink if customer offered (some clubs fine you for that) so I'd sip very little and dump most of it.

For the last year though, I've gotten used to not drinking at all at work, and I like it much better. Now I rarely even take a sip, I've changed my hustle so I'm rarely offered drinks and if so I get soda. Only time I drink at work now is if I'm in a vip, which is rare because of the setup where I work - I concentrate on selling lapdances.

I am not shy at all when it comes to approaching customers and I've found I'm actually more friendly and upbeat when I'm sober, and I can deal with negativity better (to a point). I get more goofy when drinking but also more likely to say something bitchy in response to stupid customer antics. I have better self-control while sober.

I'll run to the bar every now and then to get a coke or water, and carry it around with me all night. I do better sober because I stay more focused. It's definitely better to NOT get used to drinking at work, because you shouldn't get in the position of needing it to function, and you'll be more profitable overall if you don't let tipsyness blur your focus and cause you to linger too long before asking for dances or other such nonsense.

I hardly drink outside of work either, so now I notice that I really feel kinda crappy the day after even having a small amount of alcohol. You seriously don't realize what the stuff does to you until you stop consuming it :O

tinkerbelle
01-16-2005, 08:20 PM
I stop at 2 glasses of wine

Lilith
01-17-2005, 12:01 AM
IMO alcohol is an occasional tool, a sometimes crutch, an accessorizing prop and a stress-saving device- all varying on situation. I used to be a teetotaler at work; we don't work drink hustle, I wasn't about to spend my own money on booze during working hours and a customer's money was better spent in my garter. Alcohol can, however, be just another part of the dancer's look, SS or hustle. As Jenny pointed out, sometimes nothing works so well on the young party guys than to slap your palm on the counter and start calling for shots all around. Draping yourself over the arm of an older businessman with a martini glass is good advertising (and ad companies do it all the time to sell liquor, so you know it works). I shared a positively dreadful chardonnay with a fellow last night because 1) he wanted me to and 2) I hadn't yet drained his wallet to my satisfaction. And good lord, Velvet may yet sell me on Jagerbombs to cure my habitual fits of 10PM yawning. A bad attitude from just one too many offensive customers is a surefire way to ensure you will make no money at all, and a couple of drinks with a fun customer is a standby antidote. Still, I'm not much of a drinker- more of the wine with dinner type- and telling this to customers is often good SS in its own right.

You've got problems when a hangover cure is part of your usual getting ready for work routine, you can't drive home after work or you allow it to affect your money. As long as one can be an adult about it, I see no issues. Americans can be so prissy about alcohol sometimes.

Yea
01-31-2005, 02:17 PM
I only drink if I’m working night shift.. the atmosphere is more tolerable, but ONLY a couple. I’ve never been drunk at work, that would be ridiculous! !

amber88
02-02-2005, 08:09 AM
I don't drink on the job! I'm such a lightweight that I'd be scared that I might yack on someone. I had a drink one time at work..and I remember being so spacey and I almost got sick (redbull-vodka) I had the spins..I hid out and sat by myself and watched the girls do thier stage. I waited for a good while to come out of it..and then I check out and went home. I never encourage anyone to drink or get liquid courage....we all have courage just walking in the club!

fallenfaerie84
03-04-2005, 04:06 PM
I started off making more money when I drank at work, about 2 years ago, because I was more social, smiled more, and was just in general in a nore bubbly mood! However, I soon built a tolerance, and I soon started relying on alchohol to get me through the night and make money. Sometimes, though, no matter how nice you are to customers, they still prefer someone else, or they still just don't feel like getting dances. In this case, I would start to feel bad and drink more. I drove home drunk more often than I remember, and I was just a danger to myself and to others. It was horrible. Once, I even pass out in front of the manager's office and had to be taken home by another manager! How unprofessional of me!!

I stopped drinking ANYTHING while dancing for awhile. Recently, I started drinking a LITTLE again, though. I never drink less than 1 drink (because I will only become very lethargic) and I never drink more than 3 drinks, though.

I think drinking in moderation is ok at work.

oh yeah, i'm sure i also lost money when i used to get trashed at work, too...not a good thing. at the time, however, i didn't care.:(

AudreyLeigh
03-07-2005, 04:10 PM
The girls that drink at my club (including me recently) call it "liquid courage" :)

fallenfaerie84
03-07-2005, 09:16 PM
I am actually too afraid to drink at work now. I have already gotten 1 DWI, and do not wish to have another. Most of the drinks I am used to have at least 3 oz. of alchohol in them. They say that 1 oz is equivalent to one drink. So if I have 3 "drinks" throughout the night, I really am having 9 shots of alchohol...

CrescentLuna
03-14-2005, 10:31 AM
I want to explore this, once I'm 21. I think it does make a difference in my money, as drinking juice or water is so 'boring' or they become reminded of how young I am. It's kind of like the "I have a SO" thing, it makes me less desirable. Not saying it'll kill EVERY sale or anything, there are some guys that sympathize and are proud of my non-drinking, but I think anything that works against you in general should be avoided.

Eva227
11-09-2006, 01:36 PM
I'm a newbie so I drink while working cause it helps with my nerves and brings out my more outgoing personality..I'm normaly outgoing but when i drink i don't feel like im working. I feel like Im out having a good time and customers can see that and want to have a part of it..But now I limit my drinks.

carmen124
11-10-2006, 04:45 AM
The first and last time a drank at work was when I auditioned at my first club ever and was scared at out mind!! LOL.. dunno just haven't felt the need. wierdly enough...i've worked stoned before though..way back when i was first starting out. not much got done to say the least..i ended up leaving early to go to jack in the box. HAHA. se lavie!