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GoldCoastGirl
01-19-2007, 12:29 AM
I'm not going to talk about the private party thing anymore as no one is really listening to me. No one here seems to understand that I quit doing waitressing work for very very good reasons. I have tried to explain myself as best as I can why I just cannot go back to waitressing work in a more full time manner. I'm done.

ps it is NOT about the money for christs sake !! not everything is about money in this life and if it is for you then you have my pity... i do not put a price on my mental health and sanity thank you very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will repeat: all I have done is make the decision to go back to what I was doing for approx four years prior to even starting in the private party arena. Anyway, I will update this thread (as well as the other threads) with my experiences.

*sigh*

flickad
01-19-2007, 12:34 AM
when I did private party work for agencies in qld, me and my best friend joined up together, however we were never given jobs together at all... except on one ocassion when they had seriosly ran out of girls for that weekend, and I had to travel to sunshine coast.. I did get alot of work, however I was on call 24/7...

It is hard to know who to give work to as an agency, although I dont play favourites, I do have a list of reliable and a list of unreliable girls, if by chance I only have 1 unreliable girl available, I will book her and fingers crossed she will do the rigth thing! Unfortnunatly my list of unreliable girls exceeds my reliable ones..

I know every one hates waitress, however as I actively have jobs in QLD, NSW and VIC (other states are slowly getting built up) and I hate to waitress... however this weekend I have over booked in VIC and I will be doing 3 hours of topless waitress @ a private party!

Not really looking forward to it, however I do understand we all have to do sometihng in our life that we are not happy doing!

Look at all the major business people, do you think they love their work? No... But they do it why? Because it is a job! nothing more! It puts food on the table, it keeps money coming in and keeps them busy! I infact dont know any one who LOVES their job... even people who claim they do, they will still have days when they say FUCK IT! I am over this crap - that is the way business goes!!


For $60 an hour, I think it's worth putting up with something that isn't ideal.

aussiepunkshocker
01-19-2007, 12:43 AM
I started at Players last night. I am unsure of how much I like it so far but will post an update after Ive worked a few more days.
Certainly the staff over all seem really nice, there do seem to be alot of girls working there though...

mild2wild
01-19-2007, 01:28 AM
for $60.00 p/h yes I will put up with the shit attached with waitressing... I know some times in life you must do something you don't like, you just have to bite the bullet and do it!!

Even for $50.00 p/h I know I will make tips + a possible show...

I guess it all comes down to attitude! Some girls wont do topless some girls will, but those who do, in the end will bank and be on the top list!

I just told a girl in vic that I give preference to the girls who do waitressing shifts, even if it is a shift to cover for some one else... I have 3 girls with 3 days full work in melbourne this weekend because they will do waitressing, yes I could have given the other 'showgirls' the shows, but I would rather give preference to the girls who waitress.. in the end I have 3 girls with 3 full days of work and 2 girls who have a few jobs (not the best paying shows though) + I have 3 hours waitressing!

Next week I have 1/2 that in bookings :S just can't predict it!!

GoldCoastGirl
01-19-2007, 03:14 PM
I have decided to not quit private party work 100% just reduce it to one day/night per week and take on one more night per week club work. I am making the private party work what it was for me in the first place when I started way back in 2004 with it ... secondary to my club work. This way I overcome what was the crux of my problem in the first place and what burnt me out back in September last year in re: waitressing work (and what has since made me very hestiant about accepting any more waitressing work).

Now that it is only one day/night per week I am available I can deal with it so much easier and better. Plus it isn't my sole source of income nor primary source of income ... I have spoken with a few people (one being a mental health professional) and they all agreed that I would be best to go back to club work primarily and do the private party thing one day/night per week.

So I will. I will (now strive to be) be the damn best private party worker that the agencies have... that one day/night per week. This is what is best for me and from all the posts that I received due to my rants etc yesterday I would think that having one girl available for all sorts of work one night per week is acceptable.

I don't want to totally give the private party thing up just that it is not a good thing for me to do on a more full-time basis. I realise this now.

Lysondra
01-19-2007, 04:27 PM
Before you start anything please get your facts straight. I did (agency) waitressing for a damn good length of time before I crashed and burned (I did burn out). It was much longer than half a week. I had been doing waitressing ever since I started with Catharines years ago now and it just all came to a head in September last year (when I burnt out).

I was reffering you your recent goings back into waitressing just last week, Vee.


edit to add: just fyi i was with catharines as my sole agent whilst working in strip clubs in melbourne for over a year before i started to approach other agencies for work and i did get alot of work at one point.. alot of waitressing work (more than showgirl as i wasn't comfortable with xxx shows for ages)... it was when i was at my busiest that i burnt out.

Plus have you BEEN to my website ? For christ sake Morr... go to the website! It is just a website version of my MySpace page... very generic. It promotes no one except myself just like my MySpace page did for ages. Plus the working at Players has NOTHING to do with the agents. Actually Mild2Wild is the one who suggested I give it a go. *sheesh*

I've been to it... but that's not what matters.. what matters is the agents see that you're promoting yourself all around. It's an AGENTS job to promote you! Not yours! You have a list to the Yellow Pages... Guaranteed most of the people will call the first one on the list!! It's not helpful.

As much as club politics is bs. I deal with it better than I do agency politics (imo).

What's wrong with me deciding to go another way with my work? I am actually re-verting back to what I was originally doing (for nearly four years) before I was "distracted" by the lure of private party dancing. I'm happy with my decision.

edit to add: i did accept everything and anything given to me....... and that is why i burnt out. i had to quit. if i had continued it would be all bad news for me and who knows what and where i would be now if i had not quit when i did. seriously. it was soul-destroying for me. i saw the signs. i put a stop to it before i could get any worse. showgirl work is different for me - totally different.

Edit: Sorry babe, I missed this last thread page before I posted.

Lysondra
01-19-2007, 04:29 PM
I agree with you on the sole source of income thing... I'm craving for a "real" job... something I can do during the weekday that's non-sexual, simple... and a back-up income.

In the end, Michael now makes enough to support both of us... but I hate being dependant on people... and even though my job is a bonus for 'us'... it's not for 'me'.. if you know what I mean.

GoldCoastGirl
01-19-2007, 07:06 PM
I changed the BOOK ME part of the website and got rid of the Yellow Pages link. I just state now that I'm available for all shows etc etc and here are the costumes I have .. nothing elaborate like before.

By the way, is it really that wrong for me to promote myself as an entertainer? I thought that it would be encouraged in a way ? I'm confused. I understand that they want to promote me so I'm just giving them a helping hand as such by having my own website so people will re-book me .... they can then see when I am near-by them so they can etc.

As for your craving, why not take on some volunteer work somewhere ? There are bound to be office based volunteer positions available for various non-profit organizations if you want to do something like that or else if you want something more hands on... other organisations that will be able to help you out there.

Or you can take on some 'normal' work during the week as I have known plenty of girls who have done so and do the private party thing Friday and Saturday as such hence the reason I decided to cut back to one day per week. I feel good doing it like this and thus now I can readily accept any and all work that anyone wants to give me each and every Saturday whilst I am home.

Lysondra
01-19-2007, 07:14 PM
I changed the BOOK ME part of the website and got rid of the Yellow Pages link. I just state now that I'm available for all shows etc etc and here are the costumes I have .. nothing elaborate like before.

By the way, is it really that wrong for me to promote myself as an entertainer? I thought that it would be encouraged in a way ? I'm confused. I understand that they want to promote me so I'm just giving them a helping hand as such by having my own website so people will re-book me .... they can then see when I am near-by them so they can etc.

In a sense, but you're kinda going about it in entirely the wrong way. You promote yourself by doing shows, events, being a good entertainer... a guy can always ask for you again via the same agency... the thing is... MYSPACE IS A WAY TO CONTACT YOU... so when you direct your page to your myspace and a guy messages you for a show, do you say, "Can you please go through xxx" or do you just do it yourself? You say on your cards (and in the letter you sent to everyone) that it only has an email and THEIR phone number. People, in general, contact eachother more in email and on myspace than phone when presented with the options. You're still 100% giving them a way to contact you without going through an agent. You should not be using myspace... Your pages are setup in a very odd way, as well. Your main page should be just that... a main page.. all your websites direct link to something else!! If you're going to setup a page, learn or hire someone to set up the main thing... you have the domains, all you need is hosting. Then get more photoshoots, put up a lot of nice pictures and have it go NOWHERE... an agent can point to your site through theirs so they can see more of you.. and book you through them.. that way ALL AGENTS have your site on books for themselves and can get you more work.

You still always have a way to contact you setup and it seriously looks REALLY bad.



As for your craving, why not take on some volunteer work somewhere ? There are bound to be office based volunteer positions available for various non-profit organizations if you want to do something like that or else if you want something more hands on... other organisations that will be able to help you out there.

Or you can take on some 'normal' work during the week as I have known plenty of girls who have done so and do the private party thing Friday and Saturday as such hence the reason I decided to cut back to one day per week. I feel good doing it like this and thus now I can readily accept any and all work that anyone wants to give me each and every Saturday whilst I am home.

I want paid work, lol... but I also am donating to the Currambin sanctuary and probably rspca later this year.

GoldCoastGirl
01-20-2007, 12:31 AM
I have changed my myspace pages (do they actually bother check to see if I have?). I will be changing them further for people to start going to www.VanessaStacy.com .... Oh and I always say that they should just ring up any agency in the yellow pages for the area and request me.

The email address is mainly open for not private party bookings (I now direct everyone to www.VanessaStacy.com) just fan mail and for the strip club customers to keep in contact since I am now mainly a strip club dancer and this has always been a great way for me to keep in contact with old regulars (and this has prooved lucrative for me because of it).

What I am REALLY confused about is that I received approval from everyone (I asked for their specific feedback) and made a serious amount of changes to it so that everyone would approve it. Now they are saying they don't after I have their emails stating that they do ?!? WTF ?! :very confused:

Darcy Foxx
01-22-2007, 06:36 AM
Just an FYI...

If you're using your site to promote yourself, you NEED more photos. Your site is all text and gifs and ads and sparkles and quotes and colours but only a few pictures. At the end of the day, it's photos that will sell you.

GoldCoastGirl
01-22-2007, 11:00 AM
I know ... I just havn't gotten around to organising the millions of photos I do have to determine which ones I will upload. I only want to put the best up there naturally. So the website is still very much a "baby" at the moment.. still getting content and being "filled out" as such ;D

Lysondra
01-22-2007, 05:14 PM
Good idea... too many gifs and sparkles and things. Also, I noticed you're selling your Avon on there... lol, what man who wants to book you is going to buy Avon? I'm just thinking, "Honey, I bought a stripper... but it's okay, I bought you some make-up, too!"

And THIS is why you contacted me for photographers. Heehee. ;)

...I haven't even made my website yet.... should get on that. Not enough photos though.. and not nearly high-up enough on the food chain yet. I'm making one secretly, so far.

Darcy Foxx
01-22-2007, 05:39 PM
the reason my website worked so well as a promotional tool was because it was very simple. the colour scheme was nice, there were no random obtrusive animated gifs or banners, and the information was extremely simple for men to find. "want to see what i look like? click here." "want to know exactly what services i'm available for? click here" "for those of you who do want to know a little bit more info about me, click here to read it in a very simplified form"

95% of guys booking me for a show who visited my site didn't visit my news page, didn't visit my guestbook, didn't care about what my favourite movies are, so i kept that stuff to a minimum and made the relevant information very easy to find.

i guess it was easier for me because i was exclusive to one agent so just linked to the booking page of their website...

GoldCoastGirl
01-22-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm actually not targeting to the one specific audience with the blog. The Burlesque and Hooping information (section) means I will attract females to my site (eventually esp. once I actually start with the classes and performing etc outside strip clubs) hence the reason I have the AVON link. Plus there are men who shop AVON as there are plenty of male products.

The website is about me as a person (as such). Plus I have kept the animations to a minimum so I don't know what y'all are on about in re making it wizz bang as I refuse to make my site too complicated. I believe in catering to the lowest common denominator and/or KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid!). I have the links down the side.. and you go from there... and the information is set out (IMO) easy to find.

Lysondra
01-22-2007, 07:13 PM
Just a few examples...

I outlined the basics on the side in the first page... and then just did each page individually after that... omitting a few as to not go overboard.

Also, I don't think you need to label it 'site navigation'... I'm pretty sure people can figure that out. :D

http://morriganslayde.riumplus.com/vee/exampleone.jpg
http://morriganslayde.riumplus.com/vee/exampletwo.jpg
http://morriganslayde.riumplus.com/vee/examplethree.jpg
http://morriganslayde.riumplus.com/vee/examplefour.jpg

And perhaps using the same website to market 10 different things is a bad idea?

Eh, I forgot the background images... both in example two and in example one...

Edit: Also, what program did you use to design it? I'm happy you used tables instead of frames but a LOT of your coding is redundant. Only one program I know does it that bad... DreamWeaver? :)

sky10
01-22-2007, 07:39 PM
Im american and want to travel to Australia to work and site see. Where do you recommend i go? I am intrested in Sydney.

Lysondra
01-22-2007, 07:40 PM
It's hard to get a working visa as an American in Australia unless you're sponsored and clubs won't sponsor you because you'd have to stay for three years. If you have 5k in the bank you can get a working holiday visa to show you're only supporting your holiday and not using it as your sole source of income.

Can you get that?

GoldCoastGirl
01-22-2007, 07:51 PM
Unfortunately, you would need a working holiday visa as it is not that common anymore for the clubs to allow travellors to just work here and there "under the table" as such. You can thank our tax department for cracking down on "cash based industries" (which stripping is one) for them to require such documentation before hiring you.

Is there any particular reason you have chosen Sydney? It isn't the most lucrative of cities. Do you realise that there is SOOOOOOOO much more to Australia than just Sydney? Believe me, each town/city/state is different.

Darcy Foxx
01-22-2007, 07:53 PM
Only one program I know does it that bad... DreamWeaver? :)
oi! dreamweaver rocks! :P ;)

i like it, but i can do most of my code manually so i don't have too many problems with it. it can be really messed up with tables and frames sometimes, so that's where knowing how to write raw html comes in handy.

i used to design entire websites in notepad. nothing but notepad. i had no idea programs like dreamweaver even existed haha. :O

Lysondra
01-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Oh no, Dreamweaver is great - IF you have a basic knowledge of hard coding yourself! When using tables, it severely decided to be redundant... and if you change your mind on something, instead of deleting the old, it just overrides it with a new one!! If you can hard code and check your work in DW and then use DW to do the things you can't code and then re-check the coding... you'll get a great site...

...but if you JUST use DW....

Michael found my first notepad website. 1998... he was so proud of me.

Darcy Foxx
01-22-2007, 09:40 PM
haha yeah i think it was around 98 that i built my first notepad website too :D

the first ever site i made was in early 97 and it was about final fantasy 7, and i made it with a shitty online site editor. i basically just copied all the info straight from the game manual, and linked to the photos directly from my harddrive LOL

Lysondra
01-22-2007, 09:43 PM
HAHAHA... Mine was about the anime Petshop of Horrors...

... and I did it on Geocities...

Man, I always see those c://mypics/cuteboy.jpg on peoples sites and I didn't know people actually DID that!! Hahaha. :)

Darcy Foxx
01-22-2007, 09:46 PM
hahaha, well, i did. and i didn't realise until i looked at my site at school one day and got a whole bunch of red x's. t'was then i learned the joy of uploading images :)

GoldCoastGirl
01-23-2007, 12:03 AM
I had a whole SLEW of webpages. I became really obsessed (in a fun way) with web page design back when I was first on the 'net around the mid 90s. It was on geocities when they had "neighbourhoods". My first ever page was in The Tropics neighbourhood 3657 ;D I had a whole heap of other ones.. some just for storage.. others I created... there was one I created in the Paris (or similar) neighbourhood which was a romantic themed one.. oh man was that one good!

The problem with some of the HTML on my website is that I use the WYSIWYG blog editor to put everything in... go into the html section to tidy it all up.. and then when it publishes (live) I noticed that even after I tidy it up (esp. tables) that it changes things... for instance the "on mouse over" trick for hyperlinks... I put the proper code in there ... publish it ... only to go back into the code to find out it has done stuff to it.

Anyway, back on topic... I shall be in Melbourne next week for a few nights. I'm hoping to find a club to work within for one night (as that is all I can do) ... so far Goldfingers is my only option (and even then I'm unsure if they will put me on as it has been AGES since I last been back there).

Lysondra
01-23-2007, 05:52 PM
Vee, I keep hearing things about Club 108 and you having problems with them... I did a search but I think you deleted your rant because there's nothing.

I was thinking of visiting Darcy and I was wondering what happened there in your opinion?

GoldCoastGirl
01-23-2007, 06:08 PM
I never really ranted over here about it. I mainly kept it to my personal/private myspace profile. None-the-less, I was burnt by them badly and refuse to go back to work there ever again pretty much even if a certain two people are no longer involved with the club.

Shame as whilst Crazy Horse is definatley the popular club over there followed by The Palace .. I did make some good money there. If I went back to Adelaide I would want to work at Crazy Horse as I have given The Palace a go and whilst it isn't that bad... I find the way the girls "lap dance" there in the shared private dance room is not my style (as such).

Not to mention who knows WHAT goes on in the VIP area after my shocking experience one night at that club. I'm not a big fan.

Therefore it only leaves Crazy Horse as the only viable club for me.

(There is another club not too far from all three of these clubs on Hindley St however it isn't even worth mentioning let alone to work within.)

To be perfectly honest, Morr, since this will be your first time to Adelaide. Do not work there. I found it an enjoyable city to visit. The public transport is refreshingly (to me at least) simple to use and I loved the free city circle bus! Plus there is plenty to see and do there that I would highly recommend just having a mini holiday than working. Visit Darcy.... find out the "low down" for out of town girls wanting to work there (min. number of nights required to work and so forth) so you can write the trip off as a business trip... don't work it... just enjoy the place.

Lysondra
01-23-2007, 06:10 PM
...you still didn't mention what happened.

aussiepunkshocker
01-23-2007, 06:39 PM
Hi, I usually work in Sydney and it has been slow and unpredictable for about 11 months now to the point where i gave up working for a while. I would recomend haveing a back up plan incase it isnt good if and when you get here. You will definatly need a working visa.



Im american and want to travel to Australia to work and site see. Where do you recommend i go? I am intrested in Sydney.

GoldCoastGirl
01-23-2007, 06:44 PM
...you still didn't mention what happened.

It's in my personal/private myspace profile which you are a "friend" (it is the one with me in "normal" clothing as my main avatar pic). You will just have to search back to around Clipsal 500 time in 2006... so.. end of Februay or beginning of March. I do not want to talk about it on a public forum. It isn't really relevant. All you need to know is that they screwed me over good and humiliated me so I am loathe to go back to work for that club ever again.

Lysondra
01-23-2007, 11:30 PM
You have three myspace's... I can't figure out which one you mean and I don't know where to look... a little help? message me there?

GoldCoastGirl
06-29-2007, 12:05 AM
I'm back to being primarily a travelling dancer again! Oh man it was killing me to stay home for so so long. :laughing: I'm booked to travel to Darwin to do a three week contract from 9th July. I then hope I can work in Townsville before working the Mackay contract in late August. September I plan to work two-three weeks in Melbourne (Goldfingers and any private party work I can acquire).

October I will stay home especially for Indy. November I may go to Melbourne again. December I hope to work Darwin as well as stay home.. unlike last year I hope to be home waaay before Christmas Day so I will most likely (if possible) book myself for the three week Darwin contract (if it works out) late November.

Backup plan for Nov/Dec is to work Melbourne in November (2-3 weeks), break (go home for up to a week) and then come back for a further (up to) two weeks work.

Woohoo... back to travelling for me! ;D I can't wait. I'm kinda 'done' with the scene here locally or at least over the fact that people can touch me. I really do prefer to work in environments where the customer can NOT touch me.

Don't get me wrong, I want to work whilst home... just that... wanting to work and then realising what I have to put up with when at work... is not really working for me.

I need a mental health break - I learnt this lesson well when I had a breakdown of sorts earlier this year. I'm in this for the long haul so I need to take these breaks every so often.

Lysondra
06-29-2007, 07:38 PM
Speaking of travelling, I'm booked for Kalgoorlie in September and Northern Territory in November.

I just wish someone had asked me if I can do the shifts before booking me for them! The NT one is during my American holiday. :(

GoldCoastGirl
06-29-2007, 07:45 PM
^^ Is this with a certain private party agency? If it is then the Kalgoorlie one will be damn hard work yet hella lucrative for you as that agency supplies the most popular skimpy pub in town ;D

As for NT, you do realise that November is WET Season. Be prepared for hot, humid weather ;) plus the only reason I'm going in late Nov/early Dec is because it worked out to be rather lucrative for me in re private parties last time... kinda more guaranteed work than back home here at the same time.

Yet still get back home here in time for some Chrissy / NY work (as well as enjoy the time back home instead of away from home).



Darwin has a tropical climate with two seasons, the Dry Season and the Wet Season. The Dry Season extends from May to October with temperatures ranging from 16-32 degrees Celsius. This season has blue skies, sunny days and cool nights. It is great weather especially for enjoying outdoor activities.

The Wet Season extends from November to April with temperatures ranging from 25-36 degrees Celsius. During this season there are monsoonal rains, spectacular lighting displays and high humidity. This season is also known as the cyclone season but shelters are available and residents are reminded of the steps to take to stay safe if a cyclone does eventuate.

If I could have things my way I would spend May, June, July, in Darwin (club and private parties). August in Mackay (private party work). September, October back home here (mainly private parties with a little club work). November in Melbourne (club work mainly, private parties secondary). December where-ever (probably a mixture of home and away somewhere). Jan and Feb in Melbourne (as it is still good weather and time of year to work). March, April back home here (more like two months off every year working whenever I can etc). Yup. That's the perfect year for me ;D

Lysondra
06-29-2007, 07:50 PM
It's with Jo's. I don't mind saying it. Jo is a FABULOUS boss. Amazing. Great. Sweet. I was talking to one of her girls and she was saying how all the girls were equal.. she was the same as any waitress, and they were the same as her. Jo even books by order to make sure every single girl gets equal work.. and there's more than enough to go around! I've already made $600 this week off of Jo and I only did TWO things - she even pays more than the other companies! So that means.. higher pay.. closer jobs.. travel money...NO DRAMA (main one)... and, get this, a $50 cancellation fee paid to me if the guys book false shows! :D

Anyway.. the second one isn't in DARWIN but it's probably close... have you heard of Gove?

GoldCoastGirl
06-29-2007, 08:11 PM
Gove @ http://www.smh.com.au/news/Northern-Territory/Gove/2005/02/17/1108500201619.html

Well, it sounds like Skimpy work and knowing Jo .. it will be definately worth it. I say this as one time when I was in Kalgoorlie working thru someone else (never work via Brief Encounters!) I saw her actually working in The Exchange (the popular pub). So she has done alot of the skimpy and other work herself.

How is Jo with travelling dancers (girls who travelling frequently away from home for work)? I can easily give her plenty of notice (as I like to know what I'm doing a month or two in advance anyway).

I should contact her huh? Do you recommend it? I'm only going to be home for another week before I am off to Darwin for three weeks.

Lysondra
06-29-2007, 08:21 PM
I'm sure she'd really like it if you were a constantly travelling girl with her. All agents need more girls to go to the other pubs and things that are further away so if you did a lot of her far away bookings you could probably bank.

As for other work, no hurt in asking right? But FOLLOW THROUGH... she's super busy and tend to forget emails or not answer things or get a little.. backtracked. So keep calling and make it seem like you REALLY want the job. Just be super nice and she'll be nice back.

Lysondra
06-29-2007, 08:22 PM
Holy nutmuffins... Gove is a mining town! And hard to get to.

I see $$$.

GoldCoastGirl
06-29-2007, 08:40 PM
Gove reminds me of Dampier ( http://www.australianexplorer.com/dampier.htm ) as that was a really small mining town with one pub that had a Skimpy every so often so I banked there. It was damn hard work yet worth it! I only have great memories of that place.

I have sent her off an email and will call her tomorrow (Sunday) as i figure she might be mightly busy today organising girls etc.

As for travelling dancer with her company, if it is worth it and she has alot of pub show circut sort of bookings then I will do it. Skimpy work is only worth doing for a week here and there for me as I can't handle skimpy work longer than that. I love being a showgirl too much.

Lysondra
06-29-2007, 08:43 PM
Gove reminds me of Dampier ( http://www.australianexplorer.com/dampier.htm ) as that was a really small mining town with one pub that had a Skimpy every so often so I banked there. It was damn hard work yet worth it! I only have great memories of that place.

I have sent her off an email and will call her tomorrow (Sunday) as i figure she might be mightly busy today organising girls etc.

As for travelling dancer with her company, if it is worth it and she has alot of pub show circut sort of bookings then I will do it. Skimpy work is only worth doing for a week here and there for me as I can't handle skimpy work longer than that. I love being a showgirl too much.

She has at least 6 travelling pubs - two of which are in NSW, drive distance and a bonus of $300 for driving there. She also has about 10 show pubs and about 40 really good pubs that have great locations and nice men and good pay. I have a booklet here with the list. :x

GoldCoastGirl
06-29-2007, 09:00 PM
I signed up with her many moons (years) ago and have the old list she gave me way back then however I did one booking and it was a biker gig ... and it scared me off private parties for quite awhile. Naturally, alot has changed since then. I'm okay with doing biker gigs as long as I'm in and out as such. I don't want to get involved in that scene in any way as I have seen what can happen to girls who do get themselves involved. I just want to be someone who comes in every so often and does a show.

I'm okay with travel as I have done plenty of Byron Bay gigs esp. if she is going to help pay for some of it (fuel money). ;D Big incentive. As I said, I will call her tomorrow as I know Saturday can be a busy day for the agents/agencies.

GoldCoastGirl
07-03-2007, 12:13 AM
Okay, I decided to give The Boardroom ( www.theboardroom.com.au ) a go tomorrow night. Start 7pm, cost to work $50. I keep all monies earnt. I can also pretty much set my own lap dance prices (from what I gathered they told me). No real limits on what I can wear except that I must wear at least stiletto heels (or boots with a stiletto sort of heel).

I'm going to do shows there eventually however I wanted to get a feel for the stage without any pressure (as well as check out how the other showgirls work the stage and patrons etc) so I'm working their state of origin night tomorrow night as an entertainer (house girl) not a showgirl.

Showgirl pay is $100 per show - 20 minute show. High energy shows aren't really what they are after too.. they want slow and sensual generally speaking.

Lysondra
07-03-2007, 12:39 AM
I know a lot of girls that work the boardroom. They like it.

GoldCoastGirl
09-12-2007, 08:34 PM
Well, I tried The Boardroom and whilst they may like it. I did not. I didn't like how it was up to the dancer to set the prices for lap dances... there should be an agreed upon structure for the prices/time in re lap dances. I don't see it as a good thing allowing it to be up to me.

Plus I just can't work around food when stripping. I just find it wierd. I feel so out of place.

So The Boardroom might be good for some, yet it didn't work out for me.

I may give it another go down the track. I may not. I won't rule it out.

Cheerleaders is going okay. Income is all over the place even for the serious hustlers. You can't go in and know you will consistently earn a certain amount each night unless you have regulars. Ignorance of the market place is what is working against us at the moment.

See the Cheerleaders thread for more information.

In other news, I'm off to Melbourne next week for two weeks. I'm planning to work at Centerfold Lounge. I'll give everyone my review after I have done at least a week there (or when I get home).

GoldCoastGirl
10-11-2007, 03:26 AM
Well, I just had a "ride down memory lane" as I have just finished reading each and every page of this very long thread. *laughing* Boy have I had an interesting few years *smile* YAY ME! Anyway, I have to laugh because of this posted back in 2004:


PS Don't get me wrong, I living here ! :heartbeat: Just that working here :no:

NOTHING HAS CHANGED ! I still loathe the Gold Coast to work here. It is still the same old shit, just a different setting now. OMG!

Oh, as for Centrefold Lounge I did review it in its own thread @ http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68773

I just wanted to post about something I came to realise after work the other night. Just an insight that I had and feel like sharing:

Basically, in cities or towns where ALL the strip clubs operate the same nearly i do great.. Gold Coast doesnt!

To elaborate on this little "twitter" I did (as I posted the above to my twitter feed): The reason I do so well elsewhere is because there is a consistency between all the strip clubs. They all operate the same pretty much. ie Melbourne where all the King St clubs have the rule.. You want to get attention + nudity on stage then you must tip. All the clubs (in Melbourne on King St) are the same in that as far as I'm aware and have experienced (plus this thread re-inforces it).

The main reason why I loathe the Gold Coast is because the consistency between the clubs here do NOT necessarily encourage stage tips. Yes, people still do tip here on the Gold Coast on the stage yet honestly it isn't "encouraged" nor should the dancers here "expect" to be tipped. It isn't the way things work.

Anyway, let's just stand to say that a new club does not equal me loving the Gold Coast. I still seem to not make much money here and the worst bit about it all is that, without a doubt, I am always approached or asked about sex or being an escort/hooker on the Gold Coast over and above the no. of times anywhere else.

Yes, it still happens in the other clubs in the rest of the country however just not as much as I seem to encounter here on the Gold Coast.

All in all, I still can't happily recommend the Gold Coast as a place for dancers to come to for a "working holiday". Instead, come here as a holiday only. Seriously. Only work on the Gold Coast if you have to work here.

Now that I have finally signed up with Jo's (aka Pin Up Promotions), I can have the option of some of her contracts like Gove, Mackay (she recently re-gained the Taylors Hotel contract) and Kalgoorlie. Plus I will go back to Melbourne.

Well, I'm still undecided where the hell I'm going to avoid Schoolies. I learnt my lesson a long long time ago in re Schoolies on the Gold Coast -- http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42351 -- so I'm thinking I may run off down to Melbourne to do the clubs again mixed with private party work. I'll make my mind up after Indy.

Luckily for me I get to avoid the after Indy slump as I'm going to do a contract for two weeks. So I may or may not work when I get back home in November before running off to a place like Melbourne to avoid Schoolies.

All I know is that I don't want to just "take" two weeks off work. I want to work still just not on the Gold Coast. Refer to my Schoolies thread I posted for a huge reason why... I'm definately NOT going to suffer it (and I can see Cheers suffering them more than Hollywood or just the same as the club does currently).

Lysondra
10-11-2007, 04:36 PM
Oh man, I need to do a review on Kalgoorlie... don't I? Pffft. :/

Lysondra
10-11-2007, 04:47 PM
Kalgoorlie

I did the maths. I kept a record of every single five cent coin I made, so I can help tremendously in what to expect. On average, I made $63.22 per hour the entire time. Sunday-Tuesday were, shockingly, higher money days. It appeared that no matter what, you made the same tips, but since Fridays and Saturdays were split among more people, the pot lessened to beyond what it was worth to have more helping hands

I never went below $50.56 dollars per hour a single day. THIS IS COUNTING BASE PAY.

Base pay is $25 per hour. At the end of your time, the pub will invoice the agent and she will pay you about a week later.

The Good You WILL make at least 6 grand in two weeks here. No ifs ands or buts. There's no way you CAN'T. If you want to make up to 10 or more, go down the street to the porn store; the lady there books shows and she can help you. Warning: her security/son was recently arrested and is in jail for the next few months so you might not have security at your shows. If I recall, the reason he was in jail was pretty minor and not his fault, but I could be wrong. MAKE SURE you go to this store first thing - the lady there likes the first girl who comes along and will give her all the work - and leave nothing for any other showgirls who happen to be there.

The Bad The men here are jerks. They do it ON PURPOSE to make you cry. They think it's funny. It's actually a goal on who can make the skimpies cry first. If you DON'T CRY the first few days and even snap back at them or flip them off, they'll think you're great. You have to 'play the game' as it were.

The Ugly Even if you book with your agent to go here 4 months in advance, she doesn't buy the tickets until two days before. Considering you're paying HALF of the airfair, this doesn't bode well. Remember each time you earn money that she'll be taking about six hundred dollars away from your final paycheque, making it only about an even two grand, or 2 and a half. I don't know why she chooses to operate this way - but it would've been much better on my personality had I known in advance, so I put it here to tell you. This was probably the thing that upset me the most when I got back - seeing my paycheque dwindle already. It's depressing! While I'm sure the agent has her reasons (as she really is lovely) I don't know what they are.

If you have any problem - call the agent, she'll give you the number of the Kal contact. The Kal contact is there FOR YOU and will help you the best she can. She will make sure you're getting the hours, the breaks, everything.

Remember: 12 hour days with half hour breaks. Bring comfortable sneakers with arch support insoles. Bring tons of socks.

You get your own room - yay!

aussiepunkshocker
10-11-2007, 09:47 PM
^^^Thanks for the review Lysondra! This was just waitressing right, or shows too?

GoldCoastGirl
10-11-2007, 09:48 PM
It was the whole sharing of the tips thing that got me about the Skimpy work in Kalgoorlie. They really do have more than enough later in the week. Did you manage to get much show work or was it predominantly Skimpy work due to the long hours (and how draining it can be working behind a bar regardless)?

I'm still thinking of doing the Kal contract via her agency as it is the type of contract that I would only do ONCE a year due to the long hours and it being bar work it CAN (and you learnt is) draining ... and makes you appreciate being a stripper more since you have an insight into what it might be like to be a bar-wench.

:laughing: They can't make me cry those Kal boys! I've been there too many times now... it is pretty good to get your own room as I can just imagine how much "me" time you would need after working at that hotel.

Can't wait to hear your review of the Gove contract as that is one that is high up on my list of possible places to go to now since I don't really want to work Darwin anymore (yet still want to go to the NT often enough as I really did like it up there esp. during the DRY season).

aussiepunkshocker
10-11-2007, 10:02 PM
Bah, 4069 was going to be my last post, lol.
I was talking to someone about Gove last night, but they couldnt remember the agency name, thats a coincidence - now I know who to ask. Id never heard of Gove until last night! (-: