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sallylou
04-07-2003, 01:50 AM
Just starting out and wanna make sure I please the customers....
so just wondering,
what is the #1 thing you look for in a girl when buying a lap dance?
Is it her looks, her personality, the way she dances, ect.??? Or is it a bunch of things combined?
What can a girl do during a dance that can drive you crazy (in a good way! ;) ), what can't you stand, and what makes you come back for more?
Thanks for helping out a beginner!!!!
Luv,
Amber76

Chuck149
04-07-2003, 05:50 AM
First, I like to watch a girl dance on stage. I watch the way she moves and the eye contact she makes with the audience and whether she appears to be enjoying herself. Once I find a lady I like, and it’s hard to explain what exactly attracts me to a particular lady, (well, I love BUTTS LOL) I will approach her at the tip rail and ask her to join me for a private dance.

Now if I’m sitting and a lady approaches me, I like her to introduce herself, ask my name and ask if it’s ok to sit for a while. Now sometime I just don’t want to get dances at all, just watch the show and tip at the rail. In taht case I will be honest and not even have a lady sit with me, but if she does, I like to have a little conversation before deciding whether or not to dance with her. I can tell a lot about her personality during that conversation.

I like to be the one to ask for a dance, I hate the “do ya wanna dance” routine. I will usually ask for a dance within 2 songs, so as not to waste her time. My opinion is that most guys know you want a private dance with them as soon as you sit down. I would hope they do not think that you just find them interesting and want to chat LOL. If a guy hasn’t asked you to dance within 2 or 3 songs, it’s time to move on. ;)

04-07-2003, 06:29 AM
As for dancers who I buy dances and time packages with I look for dancers who are exceptionaly beautiful, I can meet and date average and above average women in real life. I want to spend some time with someone who I would not normaly have a chance to in day to day life. However I will tip the price of a dance to dancers who can really perform well on stage as I enjoy and respect a dancer who puts on a good show. Also if I have a dancer or even several dancers at my table who are fun and/or interesting I will tip them pretty well also before moving on to VIP with a dancer I find physicaly to be way above average. I like to start out with a bunch of dancers at my table on the main floor and have some drinks and shoot the breeze, some of you ladies are seriously funny :) and I enjoy the party aspect of that to start my club visit. So it all depends. I spend money on all types but usualy will only get private dances with an exeptional looking dancer.

04-07-2003, 07:28 AM
I know what you mean, that is why I like to spend some time and money with dancers who may not be the hottest in the club but have great personalities. I like a well rounded experience when I visit clubs. I like all differnt types of dancers for differnt reasons. Every once and awhile I'll find a dancer who is all three- exceptional looking smart/funny and a good stage performer and then I am in hog heaven ;D

Prester_John
04-07-2003, 08:15 AM
Any number of things makes me want to have a dance with a particular dancer.

Conversation - I get to know I am not just a dollar to you, and your chances of me getting a dance from you goes right up. I have no problem being though of as income (as a bartender... jeez.. I freakin' say that a lot, don’t I?....I see my customers in the same sort of light), but I have a problem of being seen as JUST income. I’m human after all. I endeavor to treat dancers like human beings, I like being treated that way as well. Conversation, whether it be quick or for a while, lets me know how you feel about things. It humanizes you, and (gasp.. shock.. no way) I like having dances with actual humans ;D

Looks - this is sort of secondary, but important. I don’t know why I think some women are attractive and some aren’t. I just do. But I realize that it’s my opinion, not fact. If I think you are attractive, that helps. Looks are never the ONLY factor, but it sometimes is a big factor. Neither one of us can control my thinking you are attractive, any more then we can control of YOU think I am attractive or not. It just is.

Realness - What? realness??? Are you joking? LOL. By this I mean don’t say "ooh baby, I'm wet for you, come have a dance with me". That will instantly ensure I won’t get a dance. Don’t feed me unreal lines like that. Just say "Hey, would you like to have a dance? We could have a nice/good time".

On an Off Topic note, I just want everyone to know I just freaking LOVE knocking 5 inches of snow off my car in the middle of April.

PJ

electric_head
04-07-2003, 09:49 AM
Hey Miss Amber,
Most important SMILE, EYE CONTACT, and like Chuck sez a sweet ass can't hurt ;) I look too see if you are getting into the music, the more; the better we will get along.

doc-catfish
04-07-2003, 11:00 AM
We men are sight oriented species, so of course looks are a factor, but even a girl with 'B' or 'C' level looks can win me over if she accepts my stage tip entusiastically and thanks me for my patronage.

I'd MUCH rather buy dances from that type of gal than one with 'A' level looks that dances on stage in a boring, clinical manner, won't make eye contact with patrons, and thinks her good looks entitle her to making the big bucks. Sure there are guys who will go for that type of dancer, but those girls could be making considerably more if they'd put a little effort into their work. One's "money maker" can't be too profitable if they don't shake it a little bit. ;)

So I salute the girls that dance like they give a damn, regardless of what they look like.

sol_de_pr2
04-07-2003, 11:36 AM
A dancer with personality tends to win me over, whereas one who has no charisma or doesn't make an effort to chat with you, even if she does a good stage show and thanks you for your tip, does not make me wanna spend. Of course, any dancer who doesn't thank you for your tip is a no-no, at least in my book.

04-07-2003, 04:14 PM
;DI ALWAYS make sure IF the stripper is either #! - DRUNK outta her mind or #2 - STONED!
The reason? BECAUSE DRUNK & STONED strippers are EASIER to "have your way" with 'em! Better lap dances, better tit suck and better BJ! TRUST ME it's happened to me many times! Best time to go?? BEFORE closing time. So that you can give them a chance to get "high or low".

AND besides they lose count of "how many" dances they've given you! NEVER get a "smart" chick to dance for you OR one that doesn't drink.

04-08-2003, 01:44 AM
that is pretty sick. Its guys like you that give the rest of us real men a bad name.

04-08-2003, 04:32 AM
Homer-
It's absolutely amazing anyone would dance for you at all. You are a disgrace to men as a race. And bragging about it isn't impressive, just for the fact that if you are dealing with such easy women you must be spreading disease where ever you go.
For any women reading these boards, all men are not created equal as this specimen demonstrates!

Admin Note: Please try to stay on topic we are starting to stray a bit. Homer & Guy, please register so you can bash each other in PM's
Thanks
Chuck

cmkrnl
04-10-2003, 04:20 AM
Hey Amber, smart to do your homework on this.

Good fun Attitude, upbeat, friendly, eye contact. When you are on stage enjoy or look like you enjoy your work. I am here to check you out and if you are standing on stage shuffling your feet and checkin yourself out then I won't even give you a dollar. Sorry.

To be honest, I like sitting at the stage and spending but I'd also like a minute of your time right in front of me. I have been to clubs where the dancers do not remove any clothing for one or two songs. I really don't like to tip for something I can see on the street. It's a strip club, make of show of it by all means, but the name says it all.

I actually do not like artificial boobs especially when they have been over done or done poorly. I have only seen a few dancers that really needed implants. Many just plain over due it. I like girls in general and expect them to all be different. Viva le' difference! Most small chested girls are just as attractive, some quite a bit more so. It's a business decision I understand but you may not get my money unless proportion and quality is perfect.

A good stripper can easily pull $15 out of me in three songs on stage. The really fun ones, the ones that look me in the eye, maybe cup my face in their hand(s), playfully muss my hair (and then stop by after to fix it!) or provide some personal element can easily get three lap dances or more from me. Making contact is the important thing.

Once a stripper on stage, I was sitting at the stage, she kicked high, her shoe came off, flew cross stage, just about knocked me unconscious!!

One time in Canada a stripper came up to me in an extremely crowded club and said "I've got great tits and I'm really stupid, want a dance?" I said yes of course! Who could resist! Turns out she was working on her Masters and in fact did have great tits.

She was so apologetic and sweet, I spent the rest of the night buying lap dances and getting to know her better. Weird huh? You may not want to try this!

Also, I don't mind buying drinks but I do take exception to a $20 champagne cocktail. Order a normal drink at a normal price for crying out loud.

Good luck, maybe I'll catch your show sometime!

Jayln
04-10-2003, 05:49 AM
cmkrnl....??????????

You actually liked the line "I have great tits and I'm stupid, tee hee!"

Hmmm....perhaps it's a line I should try dancing tomorrow night....I have platinum blonde hair and ample C cups. Though the "stupid" part would be sort of a stretch for me; I was valedictorian in high school and am in college. Maybe it would work....although I would think that most guys would rather have a coherent conversation instead of watching some ditzy blonde twirl a strand of hair lazily around her finger.

Chuck149
04-10-2003, 05:56 AM
Hey, sometimes the "ditzy" blonde thing works!!!

Prester_John
04-10-2003, 06:03 AM
Jayln - experience will help you learn to read your customers and tailor your approach to them. I've stated before that lines like "how about we go back and rock your world" etc do nothing for me. I know its just a line to get me to do a dance. I in no way look down on any man who that works on, it just doesnt work for me. In fact, the more sexually suggestive the line, the more turned off I am. Lines that do work are sort of real lines "hey, lets have some fun back there" or "lets have a dance, you will enjoy it". If you show some sarcasm or humor as well (because I am a very goofy, sarcastic person) that pretty much ensures you have me hooked.

One dancer once said with a goofy grin "hey, I have a 5th of scotch, some duct tape and kangaroo back there.. want to have fun?" She made me laugh.. so I got 5 dances with her.

The point is, have a bunch of approaches, and learn the different quirks and foibles of customers. That way, you can be successful with all sorts of guys, not just one or two types.

PJ

yoda57us
04-10-2003, 01:15 PM
First and most important is eye contact. Looks, to me, are secondary to personality. I mean, lets face it, it's a strip club all the girls are naked and all of them are beautiful. I never do a dance with a girl if the "vibe" isn't there.

cmkrnl
04-10-2003, 11:56 PM
The point is it was different and fun.

Once (actually this happens to me a lot) a stripper asked me if I was a cop. I said no, are you? I told her she was just a likely to be a cop as I was and I had to watch out for you under cover agents. She took it to the next level all night offering to take me back to frisk me, later, threatened to cuff me and toture me for information, or later it was timne to leave my fingerprints with/on her. She played that fantasy all night long, revisiting me throughout the evening with other cop fantasies. It worked on me like a charm. Totally fun.

Bridgette
04-12-2003, 10:52 AM
Excellent thread. We can all use this type of customer input sometimes! :)

The_Oceans
04-12-2003, 06:56 PM
Before buying a dance from someone, I will usually watch her dance for someone else if she's close by, or at the very least watch her stage set. In that case, if I'm interested in getting a dance from her I'll usually go to her stage and tip her, then point out where I'm sitting so she can come over.

When it comes to "cold-calls" (she comes to me, I don't come to her), eye contact, a smile, and a short conversation (no longer than a song) will usually help me determine if I'm interested in a dance or not. If she'll at least sit for a minute or two and chat, I won't give her an outright "no"...if I'm not interested at that point I say "Not right now, but feel free to check again when you're available" and I'll make up my mind if/when she returns.

However, unless I know the lady, "Wannadance" leads to an outright "no."

GoldCoastGirl
04-14-2003, 04:50 PM
??? You are sitting back and enjoying the stage shows (at my club there is no pervert row)... what makes you shine towards certain dancers based purely on their stage show:

* Straight eye contact with you
* General audience eye contact
* Slow and sensual dance regardless of the music
* Sexual overtones
* "Butt shots" where the dancer alludes to the "doggy style" sex position hence giving you a good view of her butt
* Flexibility: any move that shows this off
* Hips that can move like a Latin Dancer
* Dancing to the beat of the music hence will provide a more energetic dance when the beat is faster not just stick to slow and sensual
* Other....

??? ???

coolshot
04-16-2003, 05:09 AM
well first you have to be past my rigorous requirements posted on the pink site. Then you have to have a nice ass and pretty feet.

a sure deal breaker is if you look bored, pissed off, or otherwise not looking like you enjoy your job.

lestat1
04-16-2003, 03:15 PM
Amber76,

At the clubs in my area the dancers work the room after their stage show to do quickie 20-second dances for a few bucks. These aren't very high-end upscale type clubs, so there's not much offered as far as conversation goes. That leaves these quick dances as their opportunity to make a sale. Once I've elminated from consideration the rare girl I wouldn't want a dance from (not attracted to), any of the dancers can "sell" me at this point. Maybe you can incorporate some of the things I look for and have had dancers do when coming around to ask for a dance within the boudaries of how your club operates:

--I like *sensual*; lips and breath grazing softly against my ear go further than boobs smashed into my face. (I wear glasses, that can hurt!)

--That said, I've often enjoyed the "cleavage tease," where the dancer sort of presses your face up high on her chest and you get just a peek or quick feel of her breasts against your cheeks while at the same time drowning in that intoxicating, wonderful, "Heaven-in-a-bottle" scent that mixes perfume with all those nice smelling girly products you all use. So hard to say "no" to anything at this point.

--Hair! A dancer's hair is always silky soft, looks good, smells good, feels good...use it! Let it dangle in my face, even if it's only as you lean down to ask if I "wanna dance?"

--Eye contact good; eye contact with your arms around me and a stray hand running fingers up my neck and through my hair, better(gives me goose bumbs); eye contact and above sensual maneuvers and one of your heels rubbing against my leg, best! (gives a nice, entire body, encompassing feeling).

--Giggle. I don't know, it's just girly and innocent and cute and makes it seem like you're having fun and enjoying your evening. You'll just seem like the kind of dancer I'd want to get dances from.

-- A believable compliment. I've showered and put on some cologne. I'll buy that you think I smell nice. Combine with the above and try this: "Ohh, *giggle*, you smell nice sweetie. I want to dance with you! *teehee*" (Ok, I'm easy, but that would work on me)

--Affection. This one might go more in the 'tips for during the private dance' category along with a few of the above suggestions, but anything you can do that shows affection is very welcome. I had one dancer give me little tiny kisses on the cheeks/nose/neck during a few private dances once. Others kinda scratch my goatee like you would under a dog's mouth (hey, it works). Hugs are nice, why shake hands as an introduction when you can hug and make us feel all special? :)

--That's all I can think of for now. I guess the theme for me is I like any treatment from a dancer that fulfills the "fantasy" of her being more like a horny girlfriend than a pornstar. (hopefully that makes sense)

-lestat1

otheia
01-17-2005, 11:02 PM
;DI ALWAYS make sure IF the stripper is either #! - DRUNK outta her mind or #2 - STONED!
The reason? BECAUSE DRUNK & STONED strippers are EASIER to "have your way" with 'em! Better lap dances, better tit suck and better BJ! TRUST ME it's happened to me many times! Best time to go?? BEFORE closing time. So that you can give them a chance to get "high or low".

AND besides they lose count of "how many" dances they've given you! NEVER get a "smart" chick to dance for you OR one that doesn't drink.
I have been plenty drunk and or stoned (lol) many a nite, in 10yrs of dancing andI have never lost count of dances or given a bj so you should watch out for us drunk smart ones out there.If i was too drunk to count songs I would stay in the dressing room .:P

Derek
07-19-2005, 07:44 AM
If I am in a new club I like to see the entire lineup dance during the a rotation to decide on who I mite want. There a lot of hustlers who will try to approach u after the first 5 minutes and I have all kinds of techniques to fight them off. Next I like blondes with big boobs, maype a little on the cheesecake side. I also go for average girls who might be hungry and want to fuck OTC for $. Then I mite tip a gal on stage (just a $) to seizer her up and if I like say something like "hey honey if u wanna make some money cum c me at my table." Sometimes if I c a gal off the floor I really like, I will just flag her down. Waving a pack of $100 bills will get her attention. It might take a coupla of sessions dating her ITC to c if she has OTC fuck potential. I gradually cut back the dances to get the message across. The ones who fuck will usually say they need x dollars to pay some bill. This is where as a Topgun I will jump in and make her an offer ($ OTC for sex). I think this is a good, fun strategy with lots of entertainment getting there. If an initial target is unresponsive, I simply choose another one and repeat as necessary. I am the customer, I am in control and I go to SC's for my entertainment and to get pussy, not to pad some dancers wallet (and they pay some dancer's wealth website $1000 for advice ROFLMAO).

GeorgeBailey
07-31-2005, 09:13 AM
I almost always end up making decisions about getting dances based on interaction at the tip rail. I visit clubs most often in the afternoon or early evening and see it as common courtesy to tip every dancer at least a dollar, given that there are so few customers in the club. Most of my decisions are based on that interaction. If someone approaches me who has not yet been on stage, her genuine interest and attitude are at least as important as looks.

It's been been mentioned already, but I can't say enough about eye contact. And this carries over into the dance itself. There's no bigger turn off for me than having the dancer never look me in the eye during the dance or, worse yet, watching herself in the mirror the whole time.

Thanks for asking.

infra-red
07-31-2005, 04:00 PM
If I am in a new club I like to see the entire lineup dance during the a rotation to decide on who I mite want. There a lot of hustlers who will try to approach u after the first 5 minutes and I have all kinds of techniques to fight them off. Next I like blondes with big boobs, maype a little on the cheesecake side. I also go for average girls who might be hungry and want to fuck OTC for $. Then I mite tip a gal on stage (just a $) to seizer her up and if I like say something like "hey honey if u wanna make some money cum c me at my table." Sometimes if I c a gal off the floor I really like, I will just flag her down. Waving a pack of $100 bills will get her attention. It might take a coupla of sessions dating her ITC to c if she has OTC fuck potential. I gradually cut back the dances to get the message across. The ones who fuck will usually say they need x dollars to pay some bill. This is where as a Topgun I will jump in and make her an offer ($ OTC for sex). I think this is a good, fun strategy with lots of entertainment getting there. If an initial target is unresponsive, I simply choose another one and repeat as necessary. I am the customer, I am in control and I go to SC's for my entertainment and to get pussy, not to pad some dancers wallet (and they pay some dancer's wealth website $1000 for advice ROFLMAO).


WTF????

Derek
08-04-2005, 04:58 PM
WHAT MAKES ME WANNA BUY A DANCE:

1. Gal spends some quality time with me (at least 1/2 hr) and has OTC potential.
2. Sexy outfit that really makes me horny - bikini, micro dress
3. She is touching me and I can hardly wait to get somewhere to feel her.

Gals that come off as hustlers turn me off. Also if they say they in relationship I mite not wanna waste time with them because I primarily go to SC to meet gals for OTC fun.

xdamage
08-05-2005, 04:27 AM
I look to see if she is a "nice" person :P HAHA not! ;D It's not rocket science...


1. Looks first of course :O I have my preferred body/facial types, but its not an absolute (sometimes I'll choose based on whatever fetish I'm turned on by at the moment). This is a big "duh" (even so many guys will tell you all kinds of things about how they are attracted to personality, but you can bet that they wouldn't give an ugly or average looking girl $20-$40 a dance no matter how sparkling her personality is).

2. No fucking hustle. If I "wanna dance" I'll ask. Let me enjoy my drink and the stage in the mean time.

We are almost done...

3. I don't give a shit about her real personality, but if I see some dancer that meets the above two criteria, she then get's a 15 second audition. If I detect any of the 'I hate being here', 'I hate men', 'I hate work' attitude then it's over. Like I said I couldn't care less about her personality IRL, but when I go shopping or go to a restaurant, I expect the sales people to treat me the way I treat my customers. Be completely courteous, and put (me) the customer first. If she passes that I buy a dance.

Subsequent dances depend entirely on performance (quality of experience) during the first dance.

Not so complicated. Really just basic business. A good product will sell itself as long as the sales people treat the customer extremely well.

La_Exotique
08-10-2005, 10:18 AM
i would like to input a question in this --- since alot of you are saying they enjoy the more "intamcy" touchy handy feely actions -- doe sthe pole tricks and pole dancing do anything?
If so how "importan" is it to you.

empelo
08-10-2005, 10:39 AM
what is the #1 thing you look for in a girl when buying a lap dance?#1 Looks
#2 Mileage

pet_rock
08-10-2005, 10:44 AM
Um, since I DON'T have a pole in my bedroom, pole tricks are usually neutral/negative for me. I want to see her dance and move sensuously, be enthusiastic (OK, OK, ACT enthusiastic!) and do sensual/sexy/sexual floor work.

Every now and then my ATF will point out that a new dancer is going to do something different on the pole, and while I may admire her muscularity to be able to do it, it's not something I would pay to see, if you see what I mean...

Jenny
08-10-2005, 11:19 AM
This is a big "duh" (even so many guys will tell you all kinds of things about how they are attracted to personality, but you can bet that they wouldn't give an ugly or average looking girl $20-$40 a dance no matter how sparkling her personality is).
They do for me. Granted, I'm kind of a skank, but there is no possible way they can know before they buy.

xdamage
08-10-2005, 12:29 PM
They do for me. Granted, I'm kind of a skank, but there is no possible way they can know before they buy.

Hmm, well I am placing a private bet between us. I flipped a coin. Heads you are cute or hot (or some combination of the two), tails you are not. I called heads. It came up heads. Did I win?

Jenny
08-10-2005, 01:09 PM
I don't understand how any coin, let alone one of your inferior American coins that don't even have polar bears on them, would have this information.

You assume I'm cute, hot or some combination of the two because I am a dancer. But don't you guys constantly - or at least with frequency mention, either by complaining or celebrating (note Derek's comments on how average girls are so dying to meet him OTC really, really cheap), the average or unattractive girl? I could be one of those girls. Someday I might post a picture in the picture thread, if I ever become wholly convinced that my dad, one of dad's friends, (or, god forbid, my mum!) is not ever going to frequent this site.

xdamage
08-10-2005, 02:19 PM
I don't understand how any coin, let alone one of your inferior American coins that don't even have polar bears on them, would have this information.


Well, okay. I'm going to re-run the toss as soon as I find one of those coins with the cute polar bears. ;)



You assume I'm cute, hot or some combination of the two because I am a dancer.


Yes I assumed, but did I assume correctly?



But don't you guys constantly - or at least with frequency mention, either by complaining or celebrating (note Derek's comments on how average girls are so dying to meet him OTC really, really cheap), the average or unattractive girl? I could be one of those girls.


Derek seems to be in a strange class by himself on this one.

Although he is careful to add that his $100 girls are still (in his eyes) very good looking women, just not the best of the best as compared with the other girls in the club. Relative to the other girls in the club, maybe just average. Relative to the average girl, or the kind appearance of the women he would get to date in an otherwise normal situation, well he is definitely paying for what he perceives to be good looking women. Though I should be careful about speaking for others. Who knows. Maybe he is such the bargain shopper that he would pay $25 for a fuck from an ugly chick (or $30 if she had a really fine personality)? :P




Someday I might post a picture in the picture thread, if I ever become wholly convinced that my dad, one of dad's friends, (or, god forbid, my mum!) is not ever going to frequent this site.

It is probably best that you don't, not unless/if you really don't care who sees it. Even a simple neck up picture risks being copied. But if you post something hot, well you should assume it will end up being copied to hundreds of jerk-off websites all around the world.

Mastridonicus
08-10-2005, 03:05 PM
i would like to input a question in this --- since alot of you are saying they enjoy the more "intamcy" touchy handy feely actions -- doe sthe pole tricks and pole dancing do anything?
If so how "importan" is it to you.

Pole and Dances are two different things entirely.

Pole is about entertaining the masses, the Dances would assumingly be about pleasing the 1 and the group he'll tout you too.

When I see a pole dancer, I always tip, but if I am surprised by it, then I tip more. And if its really impressive I tip high enough to get you to come talk to me afterwards, but provided I get the Lapdance, I'm honest in saying I judge it completely different.

my .03.

::Mast::

Mastridonicus
08-10-2005, 03:27 PM
I look to see if she is a "nice" person :P HAHA not! ;D It's not rocket science...

If you have the coin, arent they all? Its kinda a given



1. Looks first of course :O I have my preferred body/facial types, but its not an absolute (sometimes I'll choose based on whatever fetish I'm turned on by at the moment). This is a big "duh" (even so many guys will tell you all kinds of things about how they are attracted to personality, but you can bet that they wouldn't give an ugly or average looking girl $20-$40 a dance no matter how sparkling her personality is).


I was looking to say the same thing, but a refresh showed you had beat me to it. Although personality helps, and I dunno how to put this, but I guess it only matters in the regular bar. Right, I'm learning, I guess most of the time I'm like 'Thats hot! I need to buy from that'

But being the self-concious hideos beast I feel I am, I am often reluctant at first, its a lesson in the use of a SC, but the hot 'I-am-Stuck-Up' will lose after the first dance to the 'I-can-stomach-you-enough-to-make-you-feel-comfortable' :D But HOT always gets the first dance




2. No fucking hustle. If I "wanna dance" I'll ask. Let me enjoy my drink and the stage in the mean time.

A little hustle is ok with me, I don't want to think, if you're bs'ing with me, I may want a dance just not thinking about it cause I'm relaxing. Asking when its appropriate is ok with me, and edged in correctly can make the sale.



We are almost done...

3. I don't give a shit about her real personality, but if I see some dancer that meets the above two criteria, she then get's a 15 second audition. If I detect any of the 'I hate being here', 'I hate men', 'I hate work' attitude then it's over. Like I said I couldn't care less about her personality IRL, but when I go shopping or go to a restaurant, I expect the sales people to treat me the way I treat my customers. Be completely courteous, and put (me) the customer first. If she passes that I buy a dance.


I guess I could have just refernced this above, however I have to add 'I am a robot' attitude.



Subsequent dances depend entirely on performance (quality of experience) during the first dance.


Agreed!



Not so complicated. Really just basic business. A good product will sell itself as long as the sales people treat the customer extremely well.

Not a surprise

Although one thing xDamage didn't mention much is approach. The approach and opening sentence could sell the entire evening to me. Its all about removing the intimidation I am still working out, cause I KNOW in a bar you aint coming near me :D

::Mast::

xdamage
08-10-2005, 07:25 PM
I was looking to say the same thing, but a refresh showed you had beat me to it. Although personality helps, and I dunno how to put this, but I guess it only matters in the regular bar. Right, I'm learning, I guess most of the time I'm like 'Thats hot! I need to buy from that'



In a bar or RL the equation changes of course, but in the SC I don't have any problem with self indulgence based primarily on what she looks like. I'm just being completely honest - hot looks are the #1 factor that first influences me when Im looking to buy dances in a stripclub. All the rest of it, just icing on the (hot looking) cake. In a regular bar? I'll talk to pretty much anyone and have had some of the best chats with women that are average looking. For talk I'd definitely recommend not making looks key, but then in a bar talk is free ;)

LemonLime
08-13-2005, 08:07 AM
In a bar or RL the equation changes of course, but in the SC I don't have any problem with self indulgence based primarily on what she looks like. I'm just being completely honest - hot looks are the #1 factor that first influences me when Im looking to buy dances in a stripclub. All the rest of it, just icing on the (hot looking) cake. In a regular bar? I'll talk to pretty much anyone and have had some of the best chats with women that are average looking. For talk I'd definitely recommend not making looks key, but then in a bar talk is free ;)

It all goes back to a more general question. What do you go to SC for?
For dances, or talk?
I have had customers who only wanted dances, that's it. And that has been 90% of all customers I get. I guess that is just me. They come to me dances, not talk.
I figure, they may wanna talk after, but after five minutes per dance and after 12 customers, I don't think I would be the most brilliant conversationalist.

8TJ
08-13-2005, 09:29 AM
Interesting thread, which I thought of last weekend when I was with a dancer. Let me put some background around this. I am in my early 50s in reasonable shape and keep myself neat and clean. I am happily married and am not out to cheat. I like and enjoy the fantasy of a dance as well as looking at a pretty women.. I always ask the dancer what the rules are and dont push past them unless I am given strong indications they have changed during the dances. I typically buy between 1 and 4 dances from a dancer. I have never spent the money on a VIP room nor looked for serious extras



I was far from home in a nice club in upstate NY and was approached by a young dancer who just pretty much plopped herself in my lap. (By the way I noticed that that seemed to be the MO in that club and most girls ended up with dances. Few males are going to turn down a girl who sits on your lap and engages you in nice conversation and ultimately asks about a dance.) Once we understood our age differences and that I was not looking for a dancer to call me Daddy -I not in to that at all. We had a good time just talking.



We talked for a while and I went off and had a dance with her, which turned in to three. After paying and having another beer I bought my first ever half hour in the VIP room. I followed that up later with another half hour. Why?



It felt fun and real. There was no moaning, purring, overt grinding. There were no proclamations of Wow you have such a big dick (I dont BTW) or I really wish I could fuck you (I never believe it when I hear it) There was a fair amount of sexual discussion, such as what do you like, what have you done., as well as life experiences. Little felt phony or contrived about the experience. I felt like I was in the back of my dads car or back in my college dorm.

I treated her with respect as she did with me. I may be wrong but I think she had fun too. I have no illusions nor did she present any that she got off, or was in love but she seemed to be reasonably turned on based on the mutual contact.



So was it a GFE? I dont think so. I stopped because it was late and frankly another hour and I would have been thinking with the wrong head. He was already making suggestions that I would have regretted in the morning had I been lucky enough to follow through. On a business trip this week I flew over the town and could see the airport that the club is next too. I smiled to myself and had nice memories of the evening.

So in summary



Be real, we can spot phonys too
Make it fun
Act like you enjoy the company of the customer
Dont make me feel like I just put $20 into a dance machine
Have as much fun as one can have at work. (I understand we are not on a date)


Good luck and I hope you all make lots of money. I respect that it is a hard job that has a physical and emotional component too.

xdamage
08-13-2005, 09:33 AM
It all goes back to a more general question. What do you go to SC for?
For dances, or talk?
I have had customers who only wanted dances, that's it. And that has been 90% of all customers I get. I guess that is just me. They come to me dances, not talk.


Some guys go for talk, but I don't.

I go to unwind, enjoy a couple of drinks, look at beautiful women, and to buy some dances from whatever beauty strikes me as particularly incredible. Then I leave it all behind. It's a nice diversion from reality.

Talk is free outside the club. I don't see any reason to pay for it because it's easily had outside of the club.

I suppose if the dancer wants to talk for free inside the club and I'm in the mood I'll talk, but I am rather anti-social at times anyway. Small chit-chat tends to bore me most of the time.



I figure, they may wanna talk after, but after five minutes per dance and after 12 customers, I don't think I would be the most brilliant conversationalist.

Probably not. It's not really the right environment to just talk.

And besides I think for many guys the reason they feel this overwhelming need to talk is they only want to talk with beautiful women. So they end up talking with very few women. If they really want to talk, its so simple, start talking to the average looking woman the next time they are at a bar or wherever. There is plenty of free good talk to be had if that's what a guy really wants it and it can separated that from wanting to only talk to hot women (or wanting to get hot lap dances from them }:D).

kassyS
08-14-2005, 07:13 AM
Don’t make me feel like I just put $20 into a dance machine

Been working in a strip clubs off and on and I have certain set dance routines which I have memorized. Not every customer wants the same thing.
I tailor my routines on my initial perception of the customer. Sometimes, my percetpion of him may be wrong, but most of the time they are right on the money.
Well, the main point is this, I cannot determine what you really want unless I talk to you first. Heck, man, give me at least 20 seconds of your time before I go into my dance routine. Otherwise, I will be nothing but just a dang dance machine.

Also, during the course of the dance, some interaction from the customr would be helpful. You know, make me feel like I am doing a good job.

I have had customers who would just stare at me emotionless the whole time I was dancing. This just makes me feel creepy and I begin to lose my motiviation.

You know, smile, say something, make motions with your hands, do something.
Anything!

Sectumsempra
08-14-2005, 03:33 PM
1) Be a 10 on my looks scale. If you're a 10, you won't have to work too hard to convince me to buy a dance. I might even come to you.

2) Chat with me. I'm lonely. That's why I'm there, because i don't get dates in the real world. This is the only way i get to see (and on rare occasions touch) titties that aren't on a computer screen. I've come back to visit a dancer who was only a 7 and got a LD from her because she was good at conversation.

3) Offer to sit in my lap. Any physical contact I get with a pretty girl will turn me on hardcore. If I'm turned on, I'm probably more likely to get a dance. And if I turn you down from sitting in my lap, it means I'm not attracted to you.

4) Do that thing where you trace your fingernails on my thigh under the table.

5) In short, seduce me.

Now, none of these work if you're not attractive enough. But as long as you aren't fat and don't look like you're over 25, you'll be at least a 7 for me most likely. The closer you are to a 10, the less you have to seduce me to get my money out of my wallet.

brainsmasher
08-15-2005, 12:45 AM
it really depends on the dancer and the customer. If a girl isnt confident or looks distracted, i'm not a fan at all. I prefer a girl who does something special to make me feel a part of her performance.

TJAndDani
08-15-2005, 05:19 AM
You guys are dissecting this way too much.

A good choice of music will get my attention. Then if you can dance its good.

gabkamano
02-15-2006, 01:38 AM
one of my line that i use and men love it,that im so horny probably because i took a viagra before i started to work and they're should come to me or i will find someone else who want to take advantage on a horny girl....

apbtfb27
03-03-2006, 10:27 PM
great dancer, hot out fit (stockings) and personality. She had to give me a feeling that she can give a hot lap dance

azcustomer
03-05-2006, 11:45 AM
Good eye contact - check the fantasize post on the pink board.

I try to pick out the gals who seem to be really into it and (seem to be) enjoying it.

Find the gal who makes the whole room believe she's desperately wanting that overweight unkempt guy she's dancing for - guaranteed to be a good experience.

00059b
03-05-2006, 12:52 PM
Dancers: Read 8TJ's response. Read it again. Think about it. Assimalate it. Make lots of money.

britney23
10-24-2006, 05:32 AM
[SIZE=5]your dog looks exactly like mine!!!

The fact a sexy girl can dance for you and show you her body! i am a dancer! i get lots of girls wanting me 2 dance for them as well as guy and even couples!