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03-31-2003, 07:51 AM
What is legal in your area ? what is not?

electric_head
03-31-2003, 12:27 PM
I sit on my hands. I'm a gentleman, but I'm only human :)

McCain
03-31-2003, 01:59 PM
Birmingham, AL - Touch and risk death
Atlanta, GA - Touch and risk death
Ft. Walton Beach, FL - Touch and risk death
Boise, Idaho - Minimal non-sexual contact
Ontario, Canada - Ummm, based on what I've seen, pretty much anything goes just short of genuine sex acts (in other words, her tits and twat may be less than an inch from your nose, but you better not lick)

Of course, you should realize that what is actually legal, and what is actually done can be two entirely different things, depending on the area, the club, and the individual dancer.

McCain

03-31-2003, 02:53 PM
Atlanta, GA - Touch and risk death



Didn't the old Gold Club provide services for athletes and celebrities... I think that came out in court. Several people testified to it. I think they also provided the celebs and athletes with dancers to take back to their hotel room. I remember seeing a story about it on Court TV.

03-31-2003, 04:29 PM
conact varies in jersey. some places like ggr (few and far between) allow contact to everywhere except vaginal area in regular lds. places like delilahs in south amboy and toms river allowed contact to anything except tits and vaginal, and some places like stilettos carlstadt and bikini bars allow NO contact. clubs in nyc allow NO contact. in montreal, lap dancing per se (sittin in the lap) is illegal, but u can touch her in any are except vaginal.

Zabrina
03-31-2003, 06:04 PM
The clubs I've worked in Austin TX have had the same set of rules which every girl reads and signs upon being hired. They basically say, one foot on the ground at all times, no touching above the knee, no body slides, no grinding dances, no sex simulation(she can't pretend to masterbate.)

Rarely, if ever, are those rules enforced. In practice, its more along the lines of no boob or crouch grabs, minimal hand to booty contact. During any dance the dancer must maintain control, if the guy is being too aggressive, management will step in.

aggieed
03-31-2003, 06:58 PM
Yup, Mariah pretty much summed up my "area", but she's right, those rules are RARELY enforced. The only time that a dancer that was with me received that dreaded "tap on the shoulder" from a manager was because she didn't have one foot on the ground at the time. Thank goodness he was later removed as manager! Picky, picky, picky...of course, I've also heard of guys getting reprimanded for putting their hands on a dancer's back...REALLY picky, picky, picky. :P

Bridgette
03-31-2003, 10:30 PM
Well the question was what is LEGAL. I am quite sure most people don't have the foggiest idea what is actually legal or illegal in their areas - save for the obvious things like no alcohol with full nude or something like that. Also, I am often amazed at how some areas enforce the heck out of stupid laws like panties must be a certain width to cover the orifices, but allow other things like touching and distance violations to 'slide'.

I had a long talk with my managers here not long ago, and found out exactly what is legal here and what is not. Full nudity is not - topless only is legal. Customers touching breast, butt or crotch is illegal. Dancers grabbing, rubbing or otherwise stimulating customers' genitalia is illegal. Dancers rubbing boobs, butt or crotch in customers' faces is illegal. BUT the legal drinking age here in Puerto Rico is 18, so 18-year-olds can come into the clubs here, drink and enjoy nekkid (or near nekkid) women. However, in efforts to keep out the young trouble-makers with no money to spend, our club has an over-21 rule (which they enforce depending on how well-behaved the guy looks and whether he's with a group of over-21's or whatever).

sol_de_pr2
04-01-2003, 12:15 AM
I think it's really silly not to enjoy fully nude dancers, when it's completely voluntary, and no indecent behavior from the clients or dancers is involved. If a club limits admission to over 18 year olds (or 21 in Divas's case), makes sure all participants are consenting adults and being a closed facility why should society be protected from things that go on behind closed doors or within enclosed walls?

doc-catfish
04-01-2003, 02:31 AM
How does that old saying go? "It's only illegal if you get caught?"

That's about how it goes here. Dances are getting considerably higher mileage in clubs around here than in years past, but the moment LE comes in to do their "routine inspection" of the premises, all contact dances and nude stage dances come to a stop. All the clubs have a lookout in the parking lot waiting for the fuzz to show up and they warn the doorman, who warns the DJ's, who warns the dancers.

Truth be told, I have no idea what the actual rules are, but I err on the side of caution.

McCain
04-01-2003, 05:39 AM
Regarding the comment about Gold Club in Atlanta, GA.... Again, the question was what contact is LEGAL. Contact is pretty much illegal in Atlanta, GA. However, as I also said, what is illegal and what occurs may be two entirely different things depending on the circumstances. That means just because it is illegal does not mean it doesn't happen.

For example, minimal non-sexual contact is pretty much the standard that flies in front of the cops in Boise, ID. But there are also a few establishments in that town that are notorious for allowing more than that to slide in VIP - which, might I add, is why there is almost no street level prostituion in Boise.

McCain

04-01-2003, 09:35 AM
I live in an air dance city. Which is fine by me as the idea of touching and/or being touched by a dancer who lets all her customers touch,lick,kiss her body grosses me out. I didn't used to feel like that untill I visited a friend who lives in a contact city. We went to his fav club and it just grossed me out. Man was I surprised- I used to complain about air dances, but after seeing what contact dancers do in person, well yuck! It would seem to me that an escort is cleaner. I mean she probably only has one customer a night and certainly uses safe sex and probaly showers right after too. Stripclubs to me are about seeing a really hot babe naked or close to it and having her treat me like I'm God's gift to women :) not about getting off or getting my fingers wet.

sol_de_pr2
04-01-2003, 10:19 AM
Hey, mike, I don't mind the contact as long as the girl is attractive and smells good ;D.

mr_punk
04-01-2003, 03:19 PM
I live in an air dance city.

don't you mean "we live in air dance city"? ;D


Visiting, Mike, and Six - we know why you all agree. Please choose one username and stick with it.

GoldCoastGirl
04-02-2003, 12:53 AM
Legal level of contact in my area:
Customer is allowed to touch breasts and butt - Customer is NOT allowed to touch the butt crack, upper inner thigh or groin areas.

Dancer is allowed to touch customer everywhere except the groin area - directly or indirectly. Also dancer is not to have her groin to come into contact (30 cm rule) with the customer's groin.

No simulation of sexual acts. No mouth contact between dancer and customer of any variety.

That's the law. What actually happens in another thing all together and depends on the club and dancer herself.

04-02-2003, 05:30 AM
My favorit place, The Mardi Gras in Springfield MA is all nude, with alcohol, and has a high level of contact (dancer to patron) at the stage seats. The set up there is great, with the stage at table level, and six dancers up at all times. Dancers are in the 8 - 10 range without exception, and are nude all the time.

At the stage-side seats, I am a high tipper. I smile a lot and make eye contact with the dancers, and I get a lot of attention there, but I am an infrequent lap dance customer.

I go to SC's just a handfull of times a year now, and when I do I really enjoy myself and tip all dancers and waitstaff generously. I show up smiling and leave smiling.

I don't do the lap dance thing that often. I am not a cheapskate, but at this point in life with a wife and young kids I just feel that home is where my $$ needs to be for the most part. However at times, sticking to this self imposed standard is hard err... difficult.

LD's at the Mardi Gras are full nude and high-contact (crotch-to-crotch etc.) with the dancer "all over" the patron, but mainly hands-to-yourself for the customer, although I am sure that mileage varies for the customers who are more frequent patrons than I.

They also have VERY BUSY C-Rooms, that start at $300 per half hour, with the dancer setting the final price. With the level of activity in the C-Rooms, the mileage must be fantastic in there. I have heard of customers keeping a dancer in there for the whole evening!

Lately STAIND and some other nationally recognized bands have reportedly been coming in repeatedly and spending the evening in the C-Room, so.....

As I type this, my urge to pay one of my occasional visits is growing.....

If anyone wants details on the club, their site is:

The club is much better than their website!

Smilin'

kennedy
04-08-2003, 08:32 AM
I would also like to mention, that no matter what the rules, legal or club enforced, it is Always up to the individual dancer. Just because a club is thought to be high mileage, does not mean all girls there are also high mileage. The club I work at has a huge range of contact/mileage depending on who the girl is and of course who the guy is. (i.e. smelly men= air dance)
I cannot stress enough how much we hear "well the last girl let me..." Ugh.
Up here in Canada (Ontario to be exact) it varies from city to city, and club to club. I don't see much being enforced however.
Kennedy

Jayln
04-09-2003, 09:46 AM
I dance in Detroit, which is known as very high contact. My club is of the upscale, gown variety, so most of the focus is on selling lap dances. Touching breasts and butt is the norm. Grinding crotch to crotch is also a standard feature of the lap dances. I don't think girls that didn't allow this would make any money. It's hard enough being a dancer that only allows this level, because there are many girls that give HJs etc. I haven't seen it personally, but I have heard it happens.

As a dancer, I will admit my level of contact varies from customer to customer. If I've danced for you before and know you tip well, then you will likely get more contact. Same goes for regulars. If you are grabby, go down my g-string, or ask for extras, you won't get a lot of contact.
Yet, I don't do anything more than let a customer touch my breasts or ass no matter who they are, but that's just me.

sol_de_pr2
04-09-2003, 10:34 AM
Oh, good, maybe I should take a trip to Detroit ;D

cmkrnl
04-11-2003, 05:27 AM
At a place in Atlanta way out on Roswell Rd (?) is loads of dancer to patron contact, but keep ya hands to yasef. They have private rooms with doors where anything goes. Best move by a dancer there table side, without asking for it, she grinds your crotch with her butt with her hand, palm down, discretely under her butt. I gave her all my money! No contact in Atlanta my foot. Of course the legal vs. actual argument is valid.

At some places in WPB fla it's contact contact contact. Hooboy! Don't know what the law is but it appears nobody cares!