Turning points

[witt]

I have one experience that I can say changed me from an eager newbie to a much more cautious veteran. It is an embarrassing story full of things not to do.

I was new in town and did not know anyone it was a Saturday night and I wanted to go out so I picked out a stripclub went to a nearby ATM withdrew $150(I think) and I was ready for the night.

Within a few minutes of getting to the club this perfect brunette sat down next to me. I bought her a drink and we started talking. The chemistry was amazing. I could not believe everything we had in common. We were both new in town and had no family here. She did have a brother that lived 30 miles away that was in the hospital because of a motorcycle wreck. He had no insurance and she had to work to make money for him.

After spending an hour or two with her my money was gone, but we were really clicking and I did not want to go home to my empty home( and of course I wanted to help pay her brothers bills some more) so I took another $100 out of the clubs ATM (for a mere $7 surcharge) and started putting the drinks on a tab so I can have extra cash. We continued to talk and drink. She tells me she has never been that restaurant down the street, pointing in the direction of an Outback Streakhouse. She ask me if I would take on her day off. Of course want to help out the lonely unfortunate dancer so I agree. She tells me to make sure I give her my # before I go so we can set up the date.

As the night goes on I start to get tired and a little intoxicated so I tell her I need to go home. She talks me into "one" more dance and "one" more drink. She tells me I have to stay because I am fun and she does want not have deal with all the other jerks out there. Plus if I stay longer she will pay for the date and she never does that. I agree because I know she has had a hard time lately because of her brother and her recent move. Plus we still have to that about our upcoming date, which now includes a movie. She continues to press for more dances and drinks and I willingly comply.

My wallet empties again and she wants me to get more more money out of the ATM. This time I stand firm and tell her I have to leave after I finish my drink. By this time all talk of the date has stopped. As soon as she realizes that she is not getting any more from me and I am close to leaving she says she needs go around to room to see if she can get dance. She leaves with no hug no goodbye no thanks and of course no date.

If it was not clear much of this was written sarcastically, but it was a true story. After paying the bar tab it was a over a $300 lesson. I lost my SC naivete that night and the experience can never be quite the same, but now I know what not to do. I do not thank I have ran into another dancer since then that has been that good at deception of course now I would be much harder to decieve. Has anyone else has one trip that open their eyes ?

[Richard_Head]

I think that most stip club junkie's run into a situation like this over the course of time. Unfortunately, there are some unscrupulous dancers out there. Mine included some kind of sob story about a sick child by an unbelievable sexy lady who was saying all the right things and making all sorts of promises and included a trip to the VIP room at an upscale club. By the time my night was over I knew I was in love, also out about $600-700, and all I got was an insincere "thank you, I have to get back to work" comment. Lesson learned, take it for what it is, don't expect more, go to have a good time, but don't buy into all the B.S. Believe it or not, I have actually enjoyed my strip club experiences much more since then. Also keep in mind that those unsrupulous dancers are few and far between.

[witt]

Hey Richard I agree. If this one dancer did not get me another probaly would have at some point, and having that one experience has probaly saved me money in the long run now that my eyes are open.Yes I still enjoy myself when I go to a club. I just do not go to that club.

[sol_de_pr2]

Yes I still enjoy myself when I go to a club. I just do not go to that club. I have to make an exception to this comment. Just because one has a bad experience with one dancer it should not mean that one must stop visiting that club. Keep going to that club if it's a good one, unless of course all of the dancers are like the one witt described.

[money]

Once the sob stories start coming in, get the Hell away from that dancer! I swear, there is a book that teaches all dancers how to make up lines to use on customers, to a list of names that they can use! It is all there in print somewhere! It is funny, over on the stripper web board, the dancers dont trust the customers, and on this board the customers dont trust the dancers! Except of course those hand full of customers on here that seem to think they will get brownie points for always writing posts kissing the dancers asses!

She did have a brother that lived 30 miles away that was in the hospital because of a motorcycle wreck. He had no insurance and she had to work to make money for him.



When any guy reads this part, red flags should go off. Anytime a dancer starts telling you a sob story, your b.s. detector should go up asap. On the other hand, it sounds like you had a great time. She was a cute girl, she kept you company, and you paid for her dances. You didn't get ROBbed or overcharged in any way. At the end of the night, you went $100 over your expected budget, which isn't all that bad. Granted, she lied, but from my experiences, dancers typically don't start telling you the truth until you've become a club regular (not a dancer's reg). Hell, if you stay with this hobby long enough, you'll have worst experiences than what you just experienced.

[witt]

I know it could have been much worse. In fact if she was smart she probaly could have lead me on for several visits. I'm not even saying this was a particularly bad thing. At that time I was very niave and now I feel much better about being able to judge how to spend my money and what to believe. Now I just go to stripclubs just for fun and anything said inside I take with a grain of salt, but I am a semi regular at one club and a few dancers( that don't give me sob stories) at that club have gained my trust.

Carlos I don't go back to that club for a few reasons. Now mainly because there was nothing special about that club, and there are 3 or 4 closer to my home. In the beginning it may have been more because of embarrasment.

[Alanna]

UGH! it's these types of unscrupulous dancers that ruin it for the rest of us. this is exactly how customers develop the stereotype that ALL dancers are like this.

not only that, it's bad for her OWN business. she may have gotten that $300, but she made damn sure that she'd never get one single dime from you ever again... and you'll warn your friends and everyone else you know, so she won't make a dime off of any of those people who could have been potential customers... she's also lowered the value of the club itself by chasing away someone who could have become a regular customer there and effectively chase away potential club customers that hear that story and decide to visit a different club so as not to have to come across her.

these tactics may work for the very short term, but they kill a dancer's business which then spreads to the industry as a whole.

[mr_punk]

stripclubs and alcohol really don't mix. it really no different than the free drinks offered at a casino. the alcohol is meant to lower inhibitions and impair judgment, inducing the patron into a cash spewing frenzy. i always limit my consumption of alcohol at both places. otherwise,i might actually begin to believe some of these sob stories.

here's my favorite sob story. a dancer, who i bought dances from on previous occasions, asked me for $800 to attend bar tending school. in a nutshell, she told me that dancing was chipping away at her sanity and she needed to do something else. at the end of her spiel, i was quite impressed. i almost whistled for my white steed, so that i could ride to the rescue. actually, i just turned her down flat and was prepared to leave it at that. unfortunately, she continued laying on the compliments and pleas for sympathy like extra-thick chunky peanut butter. she even shed crocodile tears at one point. it was a magnificent performance. finally, i got fed up and played along.

mr_punk: ok. i'll give you the money.

dancer: really! that's so sweet (she gives me a peck on the cheek). i'll pay you back as soon as i get my first paycheck and i'll give you free drinks wherever i'm working,too.

mr_punk: that's very kind of you, but you don't have too worry about paying me back. i don't want your money.

dancer: i don't understand

mr_punk: i think you do.

strangely enough,she avoided me after that conversation. i wonder why.
:'(

[SuperDude]

I have heard about terminally ill relatives more times than I can count, tuition, car repairs, rent and telephone bills. I now have enough experience to know that when these things are mentioned it is time to move on --QUICK.

....car repairs, rent and telephone bills, yada, yada, yada..... I have to pay these bills too just like everyone else, but I sure as heck wouldn't stoop down to an unscrupulous dancer's level and bait a customer into giving me a huge pile money by pulling stunts like that. If it is slow during my shift at my club, I'll stay and work a couple hours past my shift to make the money. If not, that's cool. There is ALWAYS the next day to make it. 8)

The customers go to the clubs to ESCAPE sob stories from their own homes and jobs. Don't worry, witt, most dancers are NOT like the one you described.