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ASU_Racer
02-04-2003, 08:50 PM
I usually learn about things by immersing myself in the subject matter. I've been an apprentice blacksmith, worked at a car dealership & a car audio shop, and am currently a "gopher" for a custom car builder, all in the name of learning something that I may one day use to start my own business.

For the past year I've had an interest in the field of exotic dancing. I'm curious how one might go about getting a job in a club. It seems I have three options, Bouncer, DJ, or Bartender.

1. Bouncer - While I'm 6'3" I'm not exactly intimidating or ripped. I guess I could work out a lot and put on a mean face. I'm assuming the clubs could care less that I'm a fairly proficient high performance driver and can shoot almost anything ambidextrously (Guess I could work for an escort service)

2. DJ - I have no DJ experience, but my Dad was a disco DJ, and if I could come up with a plausible excuse to give him maybe he could train me (never mind, he can't make time to help me fix my car, let alone learn to DJ) Would a club consider on the job training?

3. Bartender - Once again, no experience. I could save up until I'm 21 and attend one of the local vocational schools. It just seems to me that there must be tons of graduates from these schools who never find jobs, so why should I think that some two week rinky-dink course ensure me employment.

I'm thinking that any job in a club is a fairly desirable position, and you would have to know someone there to even get your foot in the door. Any advice or help anyone can give would be awesome.

whispers
02-04-2003, 10:20 PM
You basically qualified yourself right out of the job!

But you could park cars....... ;)

Then when a barback no shows volunteer to wash a few glasses.....

or you could simply blow the manager :)

Heather_Young
02-05-2003, 02:48 AM
I think you could make a good bouncer. The BEST bouncer I have ever worked with was about 5'11 and maybe 150 lbs. That guy could whoop ANYBODY"S ass. He was small, but he could anihilate someone twice his size. He wasn't some weirdo martial arts guy either, just one freakin' tough MoFo. He was super nice and I absolutely adored him. I always felt really safe when he was around. He definitely made some good money off tips over the years. You seem pretty cool, so I could see you being the same kinda guy.
I haven't worked in Arizona since 1996, but as I remember, both Tiffany's (Christie's) and Bourbon Street (which wasn't a dive back then) seemed to have alot of security, so there's probably jobs always available. If you start as a bouncer and prove yourself to be a good worker, it might be alot easier to get into bartending or something like that.

ASU_Racer
02-05-2003, 08:16 AM
So how would you even approach looking for a position? Find out when the manager is in and go in when it's slow? Ask the dancers/bouncers/help if there are positions available? How would you prepare for an interview like this? I have no issues starting at the bottom and working my way up, if I can find an entry level position. I'm assuming I have to be 21 to work anywhere that serves alcohol, so that drastically limits my options here in the valley.

02-05-2003, 12:23 PM
I would go in in the early evening and talk to the manager about possible openings. Another good way to get hired is to make friends with the door girl if possible. They can usually persuade managers into talking to potential employees. Also, if I remember correctly, you do not have to be 21 to serve alcohol in Arizona. I think 18 is the age requirement. I don't know how this would affect bouncers, but if you're trying to get a barback position, your age shouldn't be an issue.

RealGuy
02-05-2003, 02:19 PM
Hey dude,

Go for the bouncer route, just go to some clubs and tell the manager you want to work for him. remember bouncing is a team support when it gets really rough. But the most effective bouncers are those that get customers out of the club with out it getting to fist. It is about being centered, focused and certain of your outcome. So working out is great to get better health and take some Yoga and some kick ass boxing arobics. Now if it is a Lady that is causing all the problems, all bets are off <grin>. RG

Richard_Head
02-05-2003, 03:59 PM
I don't think I'd want to work in a strip club, I seriously think that if I saw these beautiful topless/nude women everyday it would lower some of my enjoyment in seeing the female body.

MisterBlue
02-05-2003, 04:42 PM
I don't think I'd want to work in a strip club, I seriously think that if I saw these beautiful topless/nude women everyday it would lower some of my enjoyment in seeing the female body.

I agree! I don't want to risk being desensitized to beautiful women. :)

Heather_Young
02-05-2003, 10:05 PM
If you're a go getter... u might want to try washroom attendant.
Yeah, well, if you're a real go-getter, you might wanna go fuck yourself, bitch.

Susan Wayward
02-06-2003, 12:46 AM
Hey now, just like the ladies, there are plenty of guys that work in titty bars that are educated, cool people. Sigh . . . but just like the ladies I find them to be in the minority. But what better way to put yourself through school? I don't think you'll get desensitized, either, any girl who's been the center of attention of all the male employees during her first week at the club knows that those guys are not desensitized to hotness, just to the idea of 50 girls walking around naked.

doc-catfish
02-06-2003, 04:39 AM
I've always believed that anything that you consider fun, becomes a little less fun when it becomes incorporated with work. I'm not saying that it can't be enjoyed, its just the fact that, well....its WORK! Being customers, we seldom see the downside of what goes on in a strip club the way that dancers and other people employed there do.

Once you become an employee, that WILL change and the thrill of being a club patron (even when you're out of town) may somehow be diminished. Its not so much that one may become desensitized, but more the "what you do not know won't hurt you" sort of thing.

On the other hand, you'll get to know the ladies at your club in a way that almost all customers never will, and may gain a new found respect for them.

ASU_Racer
02-06-2003, 08:47 AM
When things settle down and I'm in a little better shape I'll take a look at some local clubs for bouncer positions.

I don't think I could ever become desensitized to the female form, that's like saying I would get sick of working on cars. It just wouldn't happen. When you love something body & soul you can never get enough.

I also don't think it would ruin my club going experience. Yes, it will change, I'll understand a lot more about how things work, but for me that doesn't spoil it, it just makes me in on the joke. I was told by all my professors in film school that once I finished their courses I would never be able to enjoy a film again because I would spend my time analyzing rather then enjoying. I have not found this to be the case.

I'm honestly more worried that I'll have a perma-smile stuck on my face. ;D Who wouldn't if your job involved working with a bunch of beautiful, naked women?

Thanks for the help everyone.

And Heather, don't waste your energy trying fight some lowlife who doesn't have the nerve to register. It only empowers them. Ignore them and you fail to fulfill their craving for attention.