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fishnet
02-11-2004, 06:55 AM
Great Report MW!!! 8)I was hoping to get off that cheap on my last trip and didn't come close. :( It was a good trip but would have been much better if I'd hooked up with my fav. ::) Oh well....

Moneywise
02-11-2004, 10:38 AM
In retrospect, having never really been in that sort of situation in a SC environment (talking to Ms. D, Ms. L walks up and I totally forget Ms. D exists) I don't think I really handled that well. How would each of you have handled that?

FBR
02-11-2004, 12:35 PM
Good report MW ;D.

I find no fault in how you handled the situation. Miss L is your fav. Obviously, Miss D wasnt too upset or she wouldnt have been all over you on this visit. It was nice you told her you were sorry ::) Doesnt hurt to mend the fences. However, you both know if it happens again you will do exactly the same thing :P

FBR

metros2004
02-11-2004, 02:12 PM
A couple of things.

Moneywise, FBR is right there isn't much else you could have done in the presence of your fav. If however you were in deep conversation with Miss D, maybe you should have eased out of it while easing Miss L into it. But I've been in similar situations and been a complete ass about it so you really did nothing wrong.

I was browsing this thread the other day and it got me thinking about

January 1996

It started snowing just before noon on Sunday and didn’t stop until early afternoon on Monday. Thirty-Six inches! There was a state of Emergency in effect until Tuesday afternoon. By 6PM Tuesday my driveway was cleared, my sidewalk was passable, but the dead end tertiary road I live on still had over a foot of snow in it. My car was not going anywhere. At this point in time I was a huge PL and going to clubs at least three times a week. There were about 12 clubs in regular rotation. The club (Tuesdays and Fridays) where my ATF and soon to be GF barmaid worked was an hour to the south so that was out of the question. There were however four clubs within walking distance. So I start making some phone calls to see if anyone is open. No answer at the one around the corner (I usually stopped in for a least one drink on my way home if I was out anywhere else). The one down the hill (random days about once a month) a half-mile or so, no dice. The one on the county road right on the border of town, damn they weren’t open either. The fourth (Saturday afternoons and Sunday Nights) was another mile on, just above the creek on a main municipal thoroughfare, in a residential neighborhood. “Hello Go Go Bar X.” It was DJ Pat who just so happened to live next door to the bar. Yes they were open.

It’s about 7 by now so I decide to brave the elements and head out on foot with about 5 small in my pocket. (That is a complete guess but that’s generally what I carried at that point in time.) It is cold and there is a lot of snow. I get to the main road and it appears passable, the sidewalks in front of the commercial buildings however had not yet been cleared. But the road is completely deserted so into the street I go. Two miles and 45 minutes later and I have not seen another living soul. All 7 of the bars I have passed were closed, as were the 24-hour diner and the 24 hr gas station.

I turn the corner and enter the bar. From this approach I couldn’t see the parking lot so I had no idea what was waiting for me inside. There are five guys at the bar. Three I recognize as the DJs roommates, the other two I know are locals from the immediate neighborhood. The barmaid is a girl I’ve seen a few times and on the stage is Krissy one of my Sunday night regulars. Light brown curly hair, 36C not too thin, but no fat either. She sees me and blows me a kiss. The DJ is outside his booth, (wearing two hats on this night, DJ and manager) says hey and slaps me on the back as I walk past. I sit and the barmaid comes over and takes my beer order. Molson Ice. :beer: When she brings back the beer she asks if I need a shot. I say no and she says I do. So I ask for a shot of Jack. Before she comes back another dancer Nikki comes over to me and gives me a big hug. At this point in time Nikki was my ATF (though I did not know the term at the time), I had met the girl who would become my true ATF just prior to Christmas less then a month earlier. Dirty blonde hair with red highlights beneath. A 38D (enhanced) with curves that tapered down to a 22-inch waist. She had slightly oriental eyes and soft bee stung lips. She sat and we talked, it turned out her and Krissy were the only dancers there. (Not too bad this was a small place that never had more then six dancers there at a time.)

Near as I can recall I had 3 more shots and at least one beer on the house and spent large portions of the night getting lap dances from both girls. The last hour or so I was the only customer in the joint and many rules were broken. :o And there was at least one two-girl lap dance that was actually enjoyable. They closed up around 1 and Nikki drove me as far as my street. (It was on her way.) If I were to rate all of the hundreds of trips I’ve made over the years this one would be top five easily. Best of all I woke up the next day with $200 in my pocket. So it was a very high value evening. I’ll see if can recall some other banner nights to fill out that top five. ;D

doc-catfish
02-11-2004, 02:44 PM
Well, the weather was beautiful so I took the advantage of the opportunity to get the 2004 campaign off to a good start (I hadn't gone to a SC since December) go see Miss T and Miss A last night. It was rather short and sweet.

Miss A was nowhere to be found. Apparently she's a traveling girl, so that freed up a lot of doc's stash (that's the actual stuff you see in my avatar) for Miss T. I got there about 9:30ish. As I was pulling into the parking lot, I saw the local five-O pulling out in an SUV. They're known for being kind of a pain, following customers out of SC's and pulling them over for speeding, DUI violations, or whatever they can find. I was just hoping that I hadn't shown up in the wake of a raid.

But once inside, everything was normal. I almost got free cover. I handed the doorwoman a $20, and she got distracted making my change and being on the phone at the same time. She gave me a $10, a $5, and five ones befor realizing her goof. Oh well, my conscience wouldn't let me get away with that even if I could have. I scouted the place and it was pretty dead. Lots of ghetto customers around, and the dancer pool wasn't as good as it usually is.

Miss T is doing dances with another guy in what is probably the only LD location in the entire club. Rarely is more than one occuring at once. That's okay. I hadn't hit in about two months and needed to well up to the environment by watching the stage show, which was a bit underwhelming. One of the gals who did stand out was a tall redhead. We'll call her Miss C. Kind of looks like Lilith except maybe a foot taller. She must have been 6'6" in heels. With Miss A nowhere in sight and Miss T grinding away on another guy, I thought I'd give this young lady a try. Pretty friendly gal, and not a bad dance. A little too clinical with the grinding and a bit rough, but she has potential with practice. Social skills weren't bad. At $25 a dance, she'll have to improve things, but I'll keep her in mind.

Eventally Miss T finished and walked over to me "Hey you, you gonna save a lap dance for me?". She always knows that I'm good for a couple of dances. As infrequently as I show up, its nice to be recognized.

Miss T's stage set was coming up and I watched her go at it and gave her a nice stage tip, which as usual opened up the wallets of the lurkers sitting at the stage because they don't want to be outdone or look cheap. I headed back to my table and waited for her to collect her after stage set tips from the crowd and come over for dances.

Eventually she came over and sat down and we caught up on things. Just as we were about to get started another gal came over and told her that a certain favorite customer of theirs had just shown up. Some local race car driver guy who apparently dropped a lot of money every visit. I was hoping that I wasn't about to get bumped. Had I gotten to the club any later, I probably would have been SOL. But thankfully Miss T went ahead and we started our dances.

She said that despite the dead appearance of the place, that she was having a busy night and seemed to be in a really good mood. After the first dance, she kissed me on the cheek thinking I only had budgeted for one since she had seen me buy only one from the redhead.

"Do you want to continue?" I said. Seemingly surprised (she knows that I'm of average means), she said, "Sure". So we did a second dance, mileage was excellent considering the uncomfortable chair which made any straddling difficult, but she's quite the gymnast. After which she then asked me if I wanted another. I held up two fingers. "Ooh!" she said. Hmm, maybe my inner fucko was taking over. The third and fourth songs were superb, and I got a bunch of kisses at the end.

Miss A clearly was not in attendance, so I thought WTF, "One more babe, I came prepared tonight." She seemed to want to get over to her race car driver customer, but didn't seem to care staying with me as long as I was buying dances. Fifth dance wasn't quite as good, considerably less grinding. Apparently four is about her limit. Maybe she was just winded or was concerned that little Doc's cork was about to pop. After the fourth dance, I did start to feel a little funny down there, but no happy ending which was just as well. I'd have hated to have driven home with soiled boxers.

I paid her and wished her well, and she went off to go see the race car driver. A bit distracting with that drama in the background, but the dances were excellent. A lot of gals would have handled that a lot less professionally. A short night, but not a bad one, and I got to counter-fucko a big customer of hers if for only 20 minutes. That should tide me over on Miss T for awhile.

I have a holiday next week (Presidents' Day), and might run upstate to Topeka to check out a club there which has recently reopened after a fire. Hopefully mother nature will cooperate and keep melting this damned snow.

:doctor: Doc

FBR
02-11-2004, 04:01 PM
Doc, enjoyed the report! Its good to see you back in the saddle again bud ;D

Metro, good report! Hopefully between 1996 and today you picked up a 4WD so you dont have to slosh through the snow anymore.

Looking forward to another report from Fish and HC. Fish, BTW, do you have a playdate set up for this weekend or are you doing another HALO? LOL

I may hit the club tomorrow night. Miss D mentioned in an email that she should be working. Havent decided yet if Im going or not. I still owe Miss B a phone call too. We had talked about lunch this week but dummy me has been too busy at work so I probably screwed that one up.

FBR

Addendum: After making this post I figured Id go ahead and call Miss B while it was fresh on my mind. Lo and behold this is the recording I hear:

"THE CRICKET NUMBER YOU HAVE CALLED HAS BEEN TEMPORARILY DISCONNECTED"

Christ, I wish this girl would pay her friggin phone bill LOL Maybe she'll be at the club tomorrow night so we can touch base for lunch Friday.

FBR

NVJosh
02-11-2004, 05:07 PM
One of the gals who did stand out was a tall redhead. We'll call her Miss C. Kind of looks like Lilith except maybe a foot taller. She must have been 6'6" in heels.

OMG! Tell this woman to get herself to LV ASAP! She can glady bankrupt me...tell me she was paile. :)

Oops, my inner PL has made an unexpected appearance....but I do love tall redheads.

fishnet
02-11-2004, 05:16 PM
Damn! All these reports are killing me. LOL. Hey Metro, it sounds almost like you keep a dance diary. Did you just look that one up. :D That should be copied and pasted into the thread where the dancer asked if weather would stop us. :D

That was along break for ya DC. Glad you were able to hit the club. :)

LOL...FBR...I e-mailed on Mon. No reply and no plans yet. ::) Like I said...I had a feeling she may have danced for me the last time a few weeks back. :P I could go up Friday but I'm not showing up unless arranged in advance.

Happy_Camper
02-11-2004, 05:24 PM
Looking forward to another report from Fish and HC. Fish, BTW, do you have a playdate set up for this weekend or are you doing another HALO? LOL

FBR[/color]


Damn, I did two over the weekend and you want me back out there already?

Truth is there are plans in the works for Saturday already.

metros2004
02-11-2004, 07:15 PM
Eventally Miss T finished and walked over to me "Hey you, you gonna save a lap dance for me?". She always knows that I'm good for a couple of dances. As infrequently as I show up, its nice to be recognized.



This is a great feeling. Often times makes it easy to stay away for that long.

metros2004
02-11-2004, 07:20 PM
Hey Metro, it sounds almost like you keep a dance diary. Did you just look that one up. :D

LOL Not quite. But the weather that night combined with what happened inside :o is burned forever in my memory. Rather unfortunately sometimes my mind is like a steel trap and I remember some things I'm better off forgetting.

And oh yeah I was a RIL with Nikki. :-[

metros2004
02-11-2004, 09:28 PM
This one is from last Memorial Day weekend.

My ATF Lucy (who quit dancing in December of 98) wants to take me out for my birthday. I go up to her house on Friday night and we have dinner. I play with my Godson a little bit until it is time for him to go to bed. Once he is down, we say goodbye to Lucy’s husband and head off to the club down the road.

It’s Memorial Day weekend so anybody from New Jersey can tell you that not a lot of folks stay in Northern Jersey for the weekend so the parking lot is not too crowded. This is a pretty big club, bar around a good-sized stage raised tables around three sides a good twelve feet from the bar. There are maybe 30 customers inside mostly around the bar. We grab a table in the back corner, a waitress comes up to us promptly, and we order our drinks. We watch the girls on stage, Lucy asking me if any of them strike my fancy. Of the four I can see a say that none of them seem all that much my type. She says I’m too picky and I tell her that she just ruined me for anyone else. We laugh a bit about this when the first girl approaches us.

She’s a brunette, maybe 5’6”, a C cup, had a Russian look about her. I had watched her working the bar. She had talked to maybe half the guys there and obviously had no takers. She introduces herself, Miss T, and we do likewise. She sits down next to Lucy and a few more pleasantries are said. One song goes by and she asks if either of us would like a dance. Lucy says no thanks and she gets up to leave.

Just then this petite little blonde hits the stage. The DJ announces her as Miss C and her set is hot. Lucy was watching me watch her and after one song heads up to bar with a stack of singles in her hand. Miss C makes it around to Lucy twice and Lucy comes back up to me grinning, she knows what I like. Miss C gets of the stage and comes directly to our table. She sits next to Lucy, puts her hand on Lucy’s arm, and says thanks. Apparently, half the guys at the bar hadn’t been tipping. Our waitress comes over and I buy a round for the three of us. After our drinks come, Miss C asks if Lucy wants a dance. Lucy says no but that I will and hands her forty bucks for two dances. She knows I hate when she ties me into more ten one dance with someone I’ve never gotten a dance from before.

We head up to the dance room and Miss C. This club is a strict one-way medium contact club; my normal clubs are smaller two way heavier contact from the dancer types. But Miss C is spectacular and I add on a third dance before she has to get on stage again.

We pass an absolutely stunning girl with long brown hair, darker skin (Brazilian I’m thinking) and big grey eyes on our way back to the floor. She is heading up to the dance room. Miss C gets back on the stage and this time I go up to the bar to tip her. One of the guys at the bar tips Miss C a lot and she talks with him a bit longer at the stage. I head back up to the table and ask Lucy what I missed. She said three dancers had come by but none that would interest me. After her set Miss C comes over and I ask her if the other guy wants a dance. She says yes and I tell her to go, if it get slow again she can feel free to come over. I don’t want Lucy to be considered a fucko.

The girl I had seen before gets back on stage and yes, she is Brazilian, Miss G. First I then Lucy head up to the bar to tip her. She’s got a brilliant smile, a hot body and is easily the best dancer in the house on this night. When she gets off the stage she immediately is with the same guy from before and back up to give a dance. Me and Lucy get a couple of shots of SoCo and lime and wait for her to come back. Miss C hits the stage and Lucy goes down to tip her. She gets off the stage and sits with yet another guy at the bar. Miss G hits the stage. Two other dancers approach us and are told no thanks. Miss C heads upstairs with the new guy. Lucy and I go up to the stage together and to tip Miss G and Lucy asks her to join us.

After Miss G gets off the stage she goes back up stairs with the fucko. She comes back down after two songs and starts working the bar. She gets no new takers and then has to get on stage again. I go up and tip her well, the fucko tips her less then he had been. (Me personally if I can no longer afford to spend like I have been all night, I leave.) Miss G gets off the stage and again works the bar with no luck. As far as I can tell the only ones who have gotten any dances on this night are Miss C and Miss G. Miss C from three of us and Miss G from the fucko.

Miss G once again does not join us, so Lucy tips the waitress to have her come over. She does and sits next to me. We talk a little but she thinks her English is no good. I tell her in Portuguese that it is fine and she smiles at me. (I have the flockettes {©FBR} at my home club to thank for that particular skill.) Lucy asks her she wants to give me a dance and she says yes. Lucy gives her sixty and me and Miss G head upstairs.

Now as I said this is a medium one way contact club. But Miss G is breaking the rules, nice grinding, putting my hands on her ass. She turns and straddles me. It is hot and I get two more dances from her before she has to dance again.

I get back to the table to find Lucy in conversation with Miss C. Miss C has a shot with us and then Lucy suggests that Miss C and I go back upstairs. Lucy pays for three and we only have time for those three.

When I get back to table Lucy is alone and I see Miss G heading upstairs with someone else. I ask Lucy if she wants to go and she says only if I want to. I’m a little worn so we leave. We get back to her house and I crash in their basement.


A final note, I was on the phone with Lucy while writing this and her memory of this night is a hell of a lot better then mine.

Moneywise
02-11-2004, 10:56 PM
Good report MW ;D.

I find no fault in how you handled the situation. Miss L is your fav. Obviously, Miss D wasnt too upset or she wouldnt have been all over you on this visit. It was nice you told her you were sorry ::) Doesnt hurt to mend the fences. However, you both know if it happens again you will do exactly the same thing :P

FBR






That's correct sir! The exact same thing would probably happen every time. We weren't into any deep conversation or anything. That's reserved for the ATF. ;)

SportsWriter2
02-12-2004, 07:35 PM
Here's the promised "shopping date" TR.

We met at our favorite restaurant just before noon. I wore a maroon-striped button-down shirt and navy blazer. She wore low-rider jeans and a beige knit top ending just above her belly button. I have never NOT seen this girl's belly button. She's 20 and very bright, but she looks like a prep school cheerleader, so everyone watches us...

We went over some school work (I can talk and edit at the same time). Then we discussed the social psychology of shopping dates with dancers. I think they feed on a material gratification need that compensates for social isolation. But money for nothing can breed contempt, so the whole concept is problematic for a customer.

This shopping trip was very different. She left dancing months ago and just wants the feeling of wearing something I gave her. I told her she could spend $200; she asked if she could buy me a shirt with some of the money.

As we walked into the mall, she wondered, "If I meet people I know, how did we meet?"
I said, "Surfing" because that's the metro area term for lapdance grinding at a 45-degree vertical and horizontal angle.
She surfs, so she came back with, "Yeah, you're a longboard guy."

We stopped first at a kiosk selling body jewelry. She wanted something for her bellybutton piercing. After 15 minutes of looking, she chose one with a large rhinestone and another with three pink butterflies. She told the Asian owner that she snags them on belt buckles, then smiled at me. She knows I'm shy about doing this and she's messing with my head. He suggested that she clearcoat the jewel area with clear nail polish. I never knew that. Total: $40.13. She had the change.

We moved on to Express, which looked like it needed restocking. In the dead of winter, stores use the slack time to rearrange. She looked at a few tank tops but with nothing close to serious interest.

As we walked past Aldo, she looked back and said, "Let's go in there and make fun of their ugly stuff." I had never been to Aldo but she was sooo on the mark.

The only thing I ever bought her was from Abercrombie, but she found nothing of interest this time. In Wet Seal she tried on a pink Britney Spears cap and decided no. At a hat kiosk we bought a Boston Red Sox cap for $15. I love her in sports anything.

In Filene's she bought me a navy and green checked button-down shirt on sale for $15. "I want you to wear something from me." I liked it. While we waited in line to pay, she started singing her audition song for a musical. Everyone thought it was beautiful.

In Victoria's Secret she played with lace panties, then looked at me and said, "You think mom would like these?"
I rolled my eyes thinking, "What will she say next?"
She smiled impishly and said, "Hey, I think they KNOW you're not my uncle."
She sprayed Dream Angels perfume on a paper wand so I could smell it, then bought a bottle for $21.

Last stop: Macy's. She likes XOXO stuff, but nothing in this display. As she moved to the sale racks, I held up a green top I liked. She wrinkled her nose and gently shook her head no.

There were dozens of racks of clothing marked 40-75% off. After 10 minutes of poking around, I suggested there might be a reason they're 75% off. She saw a cute red top: "Ouuu, Ecko stuff; I don't wear that."
I asked "Why not?"
She came closer and whispered: "Cuz I'm not ghetto."
I know none of this stuff; I don't have a daughter.

Five minutes later, she put her hands on her hips and shrugged: "I'm NOT good at spending money. You must think I'm a jerk." Actually, I was impressed with her discrimination. She took a white sweater with a fur trimmed hood to the price checker. $59 marked down to $20.65, but still not worth buying: "I wouldn't wear it that often." A black disco halter top with a metal neck hoop didn't fit well, and she wouldn't pay $20 for a black tee shirt that said BLONDE in glitter gold.

We finally decided to give up on the shopping part. Back at the car, I gave her one of my old blue button-down shirts....

fishnet
02-12-2004, 07:57 PM
Thanks for the report SW2!!! Sounds like you had fun. :)

Richard_Head
02-12-2004, 08:31 PM
Work has really sucked lately and I needed to wind down after work so I headed to one of the local strip clubs today. I hadn't been to this particular club in several months now, it's always been one of my favorite clubs, I had just been having more fun at a couple of other clubs lately so I had been neglecting this club. Big mistake, this place has got a great day shift and I had a great time on this visit.

Seeing as how there were no spots open against the wall (my preference at this club as you can see all of the girls approaching and because I hate taking up a table when I'm alone), I grabbed a table and scanned the room. I immediately noticed Ms S dancing for some old guy not far away and kept glancing over (not staring) that way in hopes of getting her attention, bingo it worked as she gave me sly little smile, I was in business. When she was done with the old guy she immediatley stopped by my table and it was time for me to play fuckoe for a while. Ms S is tall and toned and tanned, long blonde hair, blue eyes, big full luscious lips, tremendous ass, and a nice BA, a 10 if there ever was one. She was wearing a red thong and bra and looked oh so good in them. Her dances were hot too, she was very touchy feely ;D , lots of contact, she kept me busy for quite some time, unfortunately (or fortunately depending upon how you look at it) I spent most of my $$$ right there. When she was done I got a nice hug and a kiss and she was off.

After a bit of a break, Ms A stopped by, she's not as hot as Ms S but still not bad in her own right. She's maybe 5'8", brown hair that she keeps pulled back, girl next door face, also with a nice BA. She gave a couple of outstanding dances, a little grinding here, a little ear nibbling there, a little more grinding there, you get the picture ;D. I stopped after 2 dances though as I was low on funds.

At this point I was thinking of leaving when I noticed a hot blonde girl on stage, I hadn't seen her before but as I mentioned earlier I hadn't been around in a while, so up to the stage I went, she passed the first test, she was very friendly there (probably because I was the only one up there tipping her). I asked her to stop by my table when she got the chance and sure enough she was over in no time. She had curly blonde hair and curves in all the right places, I loved her tattoo's, one on the small of her back and another right above the kitty (LOL, flames shooting up). Again, the dances were tremendous, lots of grindage and very handsy, NICE, damn I was running low on money though so couldn't let her go for long :(, I told her I was tapped out and asked her when she usually works so I could come back and see her again, I was disappointed when she responded "I don't usually work here, I'm just visiting from Albequerque" >:(, damn I thought, but then she added "I will be moving here in a about a month though, come back and see me then" ;D, that is a very real possibility.

Once again I left with a smile on my face in what was probably my last trip until my trip to Vegas, that trip was was rescheduled for 2/25-2/27 (work) with me then staying on an extra day (fun).

Moneywise
02-13-2004, 03:08 AM
I went to the club tonight. If I weren't so tired and full of Vodka I would write a TR. I'll handled that one when I wake up. ;)

FBR
02-13-2004, 05:41 AM
We finally decided to give up on the shopping part. Back at the car, I gave her one of my old blue button-down shirts....



Fun report SW! Seems as though you may have left a few things unsaid. Did she model the blue shirt for you later? Damn, women look hot in a mans shirt and nothing else :P

FBR

FBR
02-13-2004, 05:45 AM
RH, youre very tactical in your approach to those ladies...I love it! Target acquisition...lock and load...and then youre all over it! Hopefully, when you new "friend" moves to the area permanently you can get to know her better ;D

FBR

FBR
02-13-2004, 05:46 AM
I went to the club tonight. If I weren't so tired and full of Vodka I would write a TR. I'll handled that one when I wake up. ;)


MW, OK. We'll be waiting for it ;)

FBR

fishnet
02-13-2004, 07:03 AM
Hopefully, when you new "friend" moves to the area permanently you can get to know her better ;D

FBR


FBR, I'm beginning to think RH knows every stripper in AZ. LMAO! :D What did he say? He's got something like 10 clubs in a half hour radius of his home? And $10 dances? Sounds like paradise to me. ;)

Happy_Camper
02-13-2004, 08:47 AM
That long day at work thing must have been catching, because it was the reason I decided to hit my regular club last night. I thought a short trip, maybe run into ATF (its been a while) or Miss A (moving up the list of favs very fast), was in order. I get there and someone is at my table, to I sit on the other side of the aisle. It took a little longer than usual to get my drink, but the waitress said it was the beard and sitting in the wrong table that threw her off. Well the dancer that I mentioned in my last report that I had bought shoes for a long time ago (lets call her Miss GA) stops by. The clothing person is there again....damn, I have heard this story before. Anyway, it is fun having her beg. One of her lines is, "You will have a cheap night anyway, ATF isnt going to be here"....Cool, I dont have to worry about looking for her. I tell her I will actually take 2 dances. She is happy and says she will be back right after her stages and runs off to pay for the outfit (No, two dances wont pay for it so I think she had to hustle another person). I had only had one dance from her before, plus the entertainment of her begging, I dont consider this a mercy dance. Well after her stage it seemed to take her forever to come back out, but when she did, she came straight to me and away we went. These dances were better than the first ones I ever had. She was fun. She would try to be all serious, but just couldnt do it. She is a fun person, but in all honesty still not one to really get a rise out of me....So I am back at my table and Miss A finally comes onstage. I guess she bought a new outfit also. Looks good. Includes a black hooded cap. It worked for her. She comes out with the hood up and I see her cute face with a really sexy smile peeking out and smiling when she first sees me (of course I was the first one she approached for the tips). The second time she came over I asked if she planned on stopping by for some dances. Her response, "Well of course".
I am sitting at my table waiting when Miss N stops by. She is a real cutie too. I have always liked watching her stages and only had a couple dances from her before too. She has the little girl look going for her all the time. I guess she has a nickname there of jailbait because she looks so young. Well we go off for a couple quick dances. We are in the first one when a guy comes over and trys to ask her something. Pisses both of us off. Not only because he is interrupting the moment, but he is calling her by her real name. I politely comment to him that we are busy, and she says to go away she will talk to him later. Well towards the end of the second dance I see Miss A has come back out and is scanning the crowd. She looks lost and goes to the DJ booth. At that time she sees me with Miss N and sits on the last couch and waits for me. As I walk by, I ask if she is looking for me. She said she thought I had left. I promised her that if I ever ask for her time, dont worry I wont bail. I also mention that she is the reason I came in anyway. I invite her back to my table. We chat it up a bit (and I buy her a drink). We are sitting just inside the door and she is cold. I of course being the gentleman that I am, try to keep her warm...Finally I say, 'Lets go to VIP so I can really warm you up'. I planned on spending more on her (she was one of the reasons I stopped in for my 'short' visit), but with the begging and Miss N just looking too inviting, I wasnt able to get as many dances as I wanted. They were still great. She just has that girl next door look with the cutest smile and....anyway, lets just say I like her. She ends up going on stage shortly after the dances so I go back up to tip her. "Miss me already?..."
She comes back over to my table after her set and starts talking some more. This is fun too, because she is also easy to talk to and who is going to complain about a hot woman who wants to hang out. Well she also seemed to not be motivated to work because we got lost in conversation and before we know it she is called up to stage again. Wow, with as many girls there that was not expected. It meant we had been talking for more than an hour. She says I need to help motivate her to work. I say, "The best motivation will be when you get up from this table and have people hounding you since you are finally available". She just laughs it off and runs over to tell the DJ what she wants played. Then on her way to the dressing room, she is stopped...I of course am at her stage when she comes out and she comes straight to me. Of course I had to ask how right I was in someone jumping on the first opportunity that she was alone. She just flashed that smile at me (did i say I almost me hooked).
I wait for her to come out just to say bye and she is stopped by someone else. She still runs over to say bye and that she is being pulled in several directions.

So overall a very fun night. I never intending on jumping into the role of fucko or even staying as long as I did, but things just happen. Miss A as I said is moving up the fav list. How else can I explain my 'short' trip (I got there at 9:30), turning into a late night (left at 2 and still had to work in the morning). She got there same time as me. I know this since she asked if my plates had my name on it since she thinks she followed me in (insert stalker joke here). And when I left, I was the only one she had danced for so far that night. Besides the dances, tips, and a couple drinks. I wasnt paying for her to just sit there, but I wasnt going to tell her to go away either. So the fuckoness wasnt even planned, it was all her fault (evil grin).

Ok sorry for the length and I do need to actually get to work, but I do need to mention that we discussed the next time I come in that she wanted to take me in the limo. I gave her my card so we could plan this for a future 'date', but hell I might just show up tonight and surprise her. That limo ride sounds like lots of fun.

HC

britfreak2
02-13-2004, 01:28 PM
I'm realitively new here but here it goes.

I went out last night just like I usually do on Thursday nights. My ATF works on Thursdays. Anyway, it was a real strange night. My ATF wasn't quite herself last night. Usually she's so happy to see me but last night we barely spoke for 2 minutes last night. Almost as if she was avoiding me. I don't know what was wrong or was it me or what? I hope it's not me. Anyway my whole weekend plans been shot to high heaven. Thinking there might be a chance we get to go out sometime this nice 3 day weekend since she cancelled on me Tuesday night. Not going to happen. Maybe sometime next week but not this weekend. Her mom is flying in for the weekend. Bummer huh?

Anyway, last night started out by going in by myself then turned into a party about 5. I didn't mind. It was a fun night. Kinda slow night. I think there were more girls than there were men there. I did my usual bit. I hung around talked to the usual crowd. I usually don't get dances from anybody but my ATF. But last night I wanted to get one from someone else but didn't have enough so I promised her the next time I go.

Overall it was an alright night. Wasn't the most fun I had there. I hope my ATF is alright and I'm not the problem. Maybe I should give her a call or something.

metros2004
02-13-2004, 03:10 PM
The rough day at work got to me too. I hadn't planned on going out to a club for another couple of weeks but I got some unexpected cash which made the 1.5 small I had in my pocket expendable. :D

I went to the second new club I've been trying to break in. I use to be a regular at this place quite a few years ago, then I was like once a year, since December I've been going about twice a month. This visit would make twice this week.

After work and then heading home to shower I got there about 10pm. I had stumbled upon yet another birthday party. This time the balloons had a decidedly Valentine’s edge to them. Going in I didn’t plan to stay long. Just wanted to find someone to take the money I had on me for some nice dances.

The place was packed. I found a spot at the bar behind the taps. I am starting to become some what known here as the bartender asks if I want an Amstel Light. She goes to get my beer and I scope out the dancers. A few that I’ve seen before but none that I’ve ever gotten a dance from. It is then that the DJ announces the arrival on stage of Miss R. When she gets up there my heart skipped a beat. Long lean legs, beautiful tight ass, and perfect abs, about a 38C, long blonde hair and the face of an angel. This would be who I would dance with tonight, no one else would do.

I tip her a five when she comes round to me. But of course she doesn’t realize it’s a five. So I make sure I have plenty of singles for the next time around. Five singles on her second time in front of me. Then she is off the stage walking around toward me and right on past. WTF. She sits down with some guy at the other side of the bar.

Now I know how this works. He’s a regular, I’m not, he may have bought dances, or he’s a fucko whatever. But is it too much to ask for her to stop and say thanks, or at least hi for 10, 15 seconds.

Okay let’s se how this one goes. They sit there and talk for a bit, I see the bartender go over and Miss R talks to her then the bartender talks to the guy, the guy back to the bartender, the bartender back to Miss N. She’s translating. This reoccurs a few more times with the other bartender and the four dancers currently on stage. So now I know, Miss R’s English is limited. No problem for me my Portuguese is not too bad.

When she gets back on the stage again and comes around to me it’s five singles again. And telling her I like the way she dances in Portuguese. (Quick note here, very little of my somewhat limited Portuguese is suited for use outside a club since that’s where I learned what I know.) I tip five singles again a second time and ask her I would like a dance. She agrees. When she gets off of the stage I get ready to stand and go into the dance room with her. This time she doesn’t even make it to me and sits down with another dancer at the other end of the bar. ::) I am completely befuddled at this point and my beer is nearly empty. So I said goodnight to the bartender and went home at 11:30 with $80 still in my pocket. I had tipped a few of the girls a few dollars more then standard as well. All in all I consider the money spent an investment in the future.

I just wonder if anyone has any idea what I may have done wrong, or is just SS or just the flakiness of the girl. I was showered and shaved. Teeth brushed. I popped a mint after every cigarette. This is not the first time this has happened to me here, always with the Brazilians. But this doesn’t happen in other Brazilian clubs I go to. I had great fun the last time I was in this club. But Miss E is Puerto Rican and Miss L is Greek by way of Russia. Let me know if you have any thoughts. Thanks.

FBR
02-13-2004, 03:54 PM
Overall it was an alright night. Wasn't the most fun I had there. I hope my ATF is alright and I'm not the problem. Maybe I should give her a call or something.


Brit welcome to the board.

Sounds like you and ATF have a bit of an outside the club relationship if I read your TR correctly. Thats cool. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she was having a bad night or has some personal stuff going on that is bothering her. Be that as it may, my advise is for you to never, never, never start blaming yourself if shes acting cool or indifferent. Dont forget...you are the customer and you have what she wants...money. If you start calling her, trying to find out whats going on...what did you do wrong etc...youre going to slip into PL mode real quick. I suggest that you step back and let her come to you...dont call her. I seriously doubt that you did anything wrong...its probably just SS. Most likely next time you see her she'll act as if nothing happened. Good luck and keep us posted.

FBR

Happy_Camper
02-13-2004, 04:01 PM
...its probably just SS. Most likely next time you see her she'll act as if nothing happened.
FBR



So they all do this? That does piss me off sometimes. It is like saying, 'I dont even remember you or what we did or talked about, your insignificant'

One fav dissed me on a visit. the next time I was in she was explaining what happened that day. said she was drinking and blah blah blah. The point is she tried to make up for it and that mattered a lot to me (at the time).

FBR
02-13-2004, 04:10 PM
So the fuckoness wasnt even planned, it was all her fault (evil grin).



HC its always their fault LOL Good report! You know, I thinks its always a good idea to keep your fav list as fluid as possible. I'm guilt of not doing that and it has burned me from time to time.

As you said...Miss A is rapidly rising in the ranks. Your ATF has been negligent so if she gets supplanted she has nobody to blame but herself. Sounds like Miss A has your ass targetted big time LOL Thats cool...just make sure you maintain control of the situation.

Incidentally, you've mentioned the limo. Whats the deal with that? Maybe youve told us before but I dont remember.

FBR

FBR
02-13-2004, 04:21 PM
So they all do this? That does piss me off sometimes. It is like saying, 'I dont even remember you or what we did or talked about, your insignificant'



I dont know if they all do HC, but it does happen a lot. You just have to play hardball back. Sometimes, thats the only game they understand

FBR

FBR
02-13-2004, 04:23 PM
I just wonder if anyone has any idea what I may have done wrong, or is just SS or just the flakiness of the girl.




I suspect it was just the particular girl. Remain detached and dont let it bother you.

FBR

fishnet
02-13-2004, 06:21 PM
LMAO!!! This thread seems to be straying off topic. I really think we need another thread for "Stripper Analysis." Look in "Shop Talk"

DR. FBR, I see you are busy with patients...but don't you have a TR of your own to file? ;) We're waiting!!!! LOL.

FBR
02-13-2004, 06:28 PM
Fish LOL well I have it about half written but then Miss D called me to set up a lunch date for tomorrow and I got side tracked LOL

Still havent been able to get hold of Miss B. I drove by her house ::) today but didnt see her car. Her cell is still disconnected :(

FBR

Happy_Camper
02-13-2004, 06:51 PM
Incidentally, you've mentioned the limo. Whats the deal with that? Maybe youve told us before but I dont remember.

FBR


Well I may also mention this in my next report, but it is basically the VIP dances (two way touch) without a bouncer watching over what is happening. You pay by the half hour and it is just you and whatever lady you would like to take with (and the driver). Rumor has it that some ladies get 'extra' wild. My ATF would break rules even in the VIP, but this way we were more relaxed and she didnt have to keep looking over her shoulder.

FYI, the ATF is the only one I have ever taken in the limo. So, 1. this should she be fun (to find out what someone else does) and 2. should be REALLY fun when ATF hears about it (if she even cares anymore).

Moneywise
02-14-2004, 12:58 AM
So last night I ventured to the club with about 4 bills to spend. I had already called ahead of time so I knew my ATF was there. :P When I got there she was snuggled up to the bar looking a bit distant. (Thursday/slow night). I walked right past her w/o her noticing me. I had come straight from work and was wearing my favorite leather jacket. she never sees me dressed. I'm always in some jeans and a nice shirt but never dressed in my typical work business casual attire.

Why did I go on a Thursday? (1st time ever) Well that's simple. I had been missing her. (PL chit..lol) So I sit at the end of the bar and wait for her to notice me. She gets up, hits the dj booth, and, upon returning, notices me sitting at the end of the bar. The smile that followed could have made even the strongest man into jello. She came over and gave me a big hug then sat down at the stool next to me. We're talking and having a great time catching up on what we've been up to during the past week. I now know both bartenders by name. Ms C and Ms. T. They both love to serve me since my tip pctg usually runs at about 80%.

I usher Ms. T over and begin what ended up being an onslaught of Vodka with a shot or two tossed in. Just as she's due to go on stage I ask " did the dj just call your name?" "yes" she replies. "are you up next?" I ask.
"yes"
"No you aren't".
;D
From this moment on I was the fucko of the night. I had looked around and noticed two wallflowers staring my my direction. You know... it's about having a good time and making sure she enjoys your presence. More on the wallflowers later.

So we make our way to the VIP. After hearing fishnet talk about not paying until he's good and ready I decided to try that tonight. Instead of paying after every VIP dance I decided to just sit back and see how she reacted after the first dance or two. Much to my surprise she never once asked for any money. 8 dances later we're sitting down talking and singing slow songs to each other. The DJ must have been in an 80s mood and I was eating it up. I love a good slow song and will serenade if I know the words. As I sang a wonderful old Keith Sweat song to her I noticed an innocent grin rush across her face. She was loving it just as much as I.

I paid her for about 8 lap dances just as we were leaving the VIP. The longest I had ever gone w/o paying was two songs. (yay)

After an hour or so she excuses herself to go check on something. She had loaned her car to one of the other girls and was a bit worried. While she's gone Ms. D strolls through the VIP room!!! She's like, oh hey there. I didn't even see you come in. lol yeah right.. and you always stroll through the VIP by yourself looking lost.
We chatted for a minute while my ATF was gone. She gave mea big hug and said she was glad to see me. As ny ATf re-appears in the VIP Ms. D says a quick goodbye and walks away.

Another hour passes and we eventually make our way back to the bar. She's due up on stage next. Since I had gone after work it was late and about 15 mins from closing. She gives me her car keys oy hold while she's up on stage dancing. hmmm... I typically go to the stage and tip her when she's up there but I figured I had already given her enough already so I sat back and enjoyed a nice bottle of water.

After finishing she makes a B line back over to me (must have been because I had her keys..lol) and asks if she can hae one last drink. Surrre... I'm a sappy hearted guy. Now back to the wallflower from earlier..lol Dude is still sitting up against the wall 15 minutes from closing!!!
Get this. Whie she and I are engaged in good close conversation he walks up and finally whispers something in her ear. She shakes her head and keeps right on talking to me. (MAJOR FUCKO)..lol
She commented " he waited all night to do that. don't think so". lol

So I cut the conversation short and let her know I need to leave so she can go get dressed. She immediately says "so when am I going to see you again"? I'm thinking are you worried about me or the green. ???
She asks me three times as if to demand an answer. My reply " I have a phone". She askes again and I reply again " I have a phone". She then calls Ms. T over and asks for a napkin and pen. I write my cell phone number down and give it to her. (landmark) I fully do not expect her to call but we'll see what happens. Even if it is just to tell me she's going to be working I will take that for now. So the night ends with a gigantic hug and parting godbye.

God, I love SCs. ;D :D ;D

FBR
02-14-2004, 07:50 AM
FYI, the ATF is the only one I have ever taken in the limo. So, 1. this should she be fun (to find out what someone else does) and 2. should be REALLY fun when ATF hears about it (if she even cares anymore).


HC, that sounds cool as hell. I suspect Miss A will make it worth your while. How does the cost of the limo thing compare to regular VIPs? My club has a limo but Ive never heard of anyone using it other than for batchelor party related activities. I may ask about it just for fun.

Oh, and Im sure ATF will care once she hears about it. Let us know her reaction.

FBR

FBR
02-14-2004, 08:07 AM
So I cut the conversation short and let her know I need to leave so she can go get dressed. She immediately says "so when am I going to see you again"? I'm thinking are you worried about me or the green. ???
She asks me three times as if to demand an answer. My reply " I have a phone". She askes again and I reply again " I have a phone". She then calls Ms. T over and asks for a napkin and pen. I write my cell phone number down and give it to her. (landmark) I fully do not expect her to call but we'll see what happens. Even if it is just to tell me she's going to be working I will take that for now. So the night ends with a gigantic hug and parting godbye.

God, I love SCs. ;D :D ;D


You handled that one pretty well. I think she will call you...and when she does she will be setting the stage for you to get her cell number as well. Its the next logical step. In fact, if you feel like playing hardball, you might not want to go back to the club until you hear from her. Its a gutsy move but it could put you in the drivers seat big time. Or alternatively, on your next trip to the club, you could hone in on some other dancers and ignore her. When she approaches you, which she will, you could say "Oh Im sorry...I didnt know you were working so I made other plans" Im sure she would be pissed but the lure of money would bring her back...plus she would know she didnt have you wrapped around her finger. Sorry, my evil side is showing LOL

Bottom line...and this is important IMO...there needs to be communication outside the club. To move the relationship to the next level (assuming you want to) YOU need to proactively blurr the line between fantasy and reality. As long as your contact is strictly at the club, the line will remain clearly defined and the boundaries firmly in place. OTOH, if youre content to keep things in the club, the communication (cell phone, email, IM etc) is less important...more of a convenience than anything else.

And yes, young Jedi, we know you love SC's LOL

FBR

Moneywise
02-14-2004, 08:45 AM
You handled that one pretty well. I think she will call you...and when she does she will be setting the stage for you to get her cell number as well. Its the next logical step. In fact, if you feel like playing hardball, you might not want to go back to the club until you hear from her. Its a gutsy move but it could put you in the drivers seat big time. Or alternatively, on your next trip to the club, you could hone in on some other dancers and ignore her. When she approaches you, which she will, you could say "Oh Im sorry...I didnt know you were working so I made other plans" Im sure she would be pissed but the lure of money would bring her back...plus she would know she didnt have you wrapped around her finger. Sorry, my evil side is showing LOL




Great advice. As a matter of fact I will not be stepping foot in the club for at least a few weeks. I'll see what happens when this Monday comes and goes & I am not there as I usually am on most Mondays. I had gone earlier this week (Tues) when she wasn't there. See my earlier TR. At that time her best friend, who gave me some hella LDs that night told me she couldn't figure out why my ATF just had to work on Monday nights if not any other night of the week. This gave me a big crap eating grin. Then she said "Now I know why she just has to work Monday nights or else"..lol

I'm going to try that and see what happens FBR. I'll keep you posted. ;)

Happy_Camper
02-14-2004, 10:35 AM
FYI, the ATF is the only one I have ever taken in the limo. So, 1. this should she be fun (to find out what someone else does) and 2. should be REALLY fun when ATF hears about it (if she even cares anymore).


HC, that sounds cool as hell. I suspect Miss A will make it worth your while. How does the cost of the limo thing compare to regular VIPs? My club has a limo but Ive never heard of anyone using it other than for batchelor party related activities. I may ask about it just for fun.

Oh, and Im sure ATF will care once she hears about it. Let us know her reaction.

FBR


The VIP is $150 for per 1/2 hour and the limo is $250 per 1/2 hour. It is nice to get out of the loud smokey atmosphere of the club. You get to relax and just enjoy each other without other customers or bouncers watching. It is like a rolling private. My first thought was why would you pay more for what you basically get in VIP (girls 'say' that dances are not different between the two). I myself have a feeling there is a difference ;D. Now if had gone with someone and there wasnt a difference, or with the girl who said she just liked to talk a lot and get out of the club, I dont think I would be going with that person again.

As for what happend with Miss A, trip report to follow.

HC

FBR
02-14-2004, 02:19 PM
HC that sounds like fun but but damn that limo is costly :o. A private is a much better value I think. IMO you should focus on achieving that ;D

FBR

FBR
02-14-2004, 02:53 PM
Had a really nice lunch with Miss D today. She wasnt planning to work (she says V-Day is terrible re: club attendance) so there was no time pressure involved. I came to work this morning around 8:30 and got caught up on a lot of my paperwork. I was starting to get antsy around 11...our lunch was scheduled for 1PM. I wanted to get her something...sort of a quasi Valentines Day present without the mushy stuff. I decided that a bottle of her favorite liquor would work. I left the office early enough to stop by the State Store to pick it up....damn...$26.70 for this little fuckin bottle ?? :-\

As I was heading toward the restaurant, she called me to let me know she was there and waiting. I pressed the accelerator...thank god for 345 HP LOL I was only a couple minutes late. She was sitting in the lobby waiting for me...damn she looked cute. She had her hair down long and unencumbered...not the pony tail thing. I like that. Her jeans were tight on her ass and I made a point of walking slightly behind her as we headed for the bar to take our seat ;D.

I was dressed down today...501 button flys...boots...harley jacket. I thought Id show her the other side of me LOL She checked me out and seemed at least semi-pleased ;) We ordered a drinks. I went ahead and ordered a 7-7. She opted for some weak fruity drink LOL I teased her about it and she said she was going out with some friends tonight and would have a long night of drinking ahead of her LOL

The food was really good. Chicken pot pie for me (one of their new specials) and a chicken salad for her. It took us awhile to eat the food...the portions were huge. All the while we were ordering drinks in between LOL Miss D kept changing drinks every time...she really had the barmaid fucked up LOL I stayed with my 7-7's although I did share a couple of her drinks with. I was buzzed by my third drink but just in a mellow way.

We talked about all kinds of stuff. Miss D's history and drama...my history and drama. It was all good and enjoyable. Shes moving closer to town in the near future. I suggested that it seemed silly to me to pay for a hotel since she was going to be living closer to town. Lets just use her apartment. I didnt know how she would react but I figured Id throw it out there. I was pleased that she agreed. I'll probably toss in the hotel costs as a tip but Id rather her have it than Holiday Inn LOL

We hung out from about 1 until 4. I was getting very buzzed and figured it was time to roll. I told her I had a present for her ;D I think she was surprised. She didnt have anything for me but that was OK...well not really but life goes on LOL I gave her the bottle and told her to have fun with it. Sometimes when you make a nice gesture and catch the other party off guard, you can get it back many times over. Im hoping thats the case. I felt good giving it to her regardless.

After a very nice hug and kiss we parted company. We have another private scheduled for the end of next week which I am looking forward to. I hate that Miss B is slowly fading but dammit shes not doing anything. And all the while Miss D is doing all the right stuff.

FBR

sander8son
02-14-2004, 03:04 PM
OK, this is going to be a VERY Borring TR, seeing as it wasn't even a planned visit.

Thursday night, went to see a french film (Chacun Cherche Son Chat), which incidently i enjoyed very much. The lady-friend and i drank some wine before the movie in the little bar area of the cinema, and then were allowed to bring a second bottle into the theatre for the movie(they had little tables in the theatre).

anyway, afterwards we're driving back and we decide to hit up an SC for the hell of it.

We had very little money(maybe $75 on us). i was driving so i shut myself off. Had a coke and later a cranberry juice. When we first entered i only saw one girl that wasn't on stage in the crowd(for a thursday night....and after some time, realized that not many guys were getting dances). so either all the guys had been there for hours and not getting dances, or the girls were having a piss-party in the dressing room. most likely complaining that they aren't making money, but not even bothering to work the crowd.

Sitting stageside, i got absolutely NO ATTENTION for a while. the lady-friend(i like this term) occaisonally got some action, but even she was being ignored. lol. i finally got some stage attention after like a half hour when she left the stage to get herself a drink. but even this was fleeting. Nobody asked me if i wanted dances(i wasn't gonna be getting them anyway...wasn't wearing my perv gear pants. lol) anyway all in all cheap SC visit. cost for two people for like an hour and a half....maybe $35 (cover, drinks, bar tip, stage tips).

when i got home (who knows when), i passed out quickly. was up early that morning for classes after having gone to bed late the night before, hadn't eaten anything all day really, and haven't been drinking much. wine hit me hard. lol, i was hung over when we left the club. which was good, cause i woke up friday refreshed. lol. who knows when my next SC visit will be.

Happy_Camper
02-14-2004, 05:13 PM
I figured I better post this report before heading out tonight and I would have two of them in the morning.

Well I went to my regular club with the intention of seeing Miss A. She normally works nights and I thought she said she would be there. I roll in at about 9ish because even if I am looking for someone, I still like to see everyone and just before shift change helps with that. I take my usual table, chat with the DJ and get my drink. It seems pretty dead in there. One dancer stops by to tell me this is her last weekend. I am not sure if she was looking for that 'last dance', but I wasnt interested. I told her to keep in touch (she used to email me) and her reply was "I am losing my email account since I graduated school". So I take it that means no.

Well it is now just after 10 and the next shift of girls should be there. It is a Friday night and there are maybe 10-15 there. The customer count is still quite low also. I go ask the DJ if Miss A is even schedules and he says no. I also ask about the limited number of dancers. He says it is probably because the other DJ (the female one I may have mentioned before) got married today and there must be a party or something everyone is at.
So I figured it was going to be a short night and not much spent, I even thought of bailing right away and driving to the next town. Then I figured I was going to the next town soon enough (tonight), I would just hang out here a bit and then go home. A couple more ladies did show up, but not enought to open the second stage even. I took this chance to grab some dances from ladies that always catch my eye but...anyway the first one Miss M used to dance for me way back before the ATF worked there (this was even before it was a two way touch club in VIP). They were doing a promo dance and she was the first one out. I pointed at her and did the come here motion. She looked behind her to see who I was pointing at. She realized it was her and came over. She even mentioned the surprise because it had been so long and I 'have my favorites'. I asked if that meant she didnt want to dance for me. Well she did dance for me and now I remember what I liked about her.
Next up in my dance card was Miss S, a 'rival' of the ATF's. She has a build sort of like the ATF with short dark hair. Many times other dancers when talking with me would ask why this one wasnt one of my favs like the ATF. Well I remember getting a dance for this one way back that was OK, but then I was usually there for the ATF. She is standing by the DJ booth and I comment to her about she doesnt normally even ask me for dances and she say because I told her no to many times. What? She says there was two or three times I said no. I explain that I was probably overly focused on the ATF, but that I still came up to tip her on stage most times I was there. (footnote, why is it the dancer I dont like has asked 100's of times, all no's, yet still wont leave me alone and this one stops after 2 or 3. Probably because this one banks as it is). So I say, "well I am saying yes now if you want" She says she is on stage next and will be right over. I tip her onstage and go back to my table to wait. I see her come out of the dressing room, stop at the bar and grab a drink, then stop to sit at another table (WTF). Then shortly after stopping there she gets up and comes over to me (I guess it was people she knows, she left the drink there when she came for me). We talk a bit before the dances about stuff that people dont know each other well talk about. Music and such. Well the conversation got around to a group I know she likes (or at least dances to often) and I asked if she was going to the concert (around here in a couple weeks), she said she didnt have tickets. I mention that I have an extra if she wants it. She said she would have to check her schedule (I am assuming other job, or school, or SS) and she asked if would I be back in before the show so she could let me know. I said I didnt know, but she could call me next week (then gave her the number). We then had a couple dances that were pretty good and I said that is enough for now. In all honestly, I never went in there to ask her to the show, but in retrospect this could play out very nicely no matter what happens.
The next lady I want to try just happens to be a newer girl who also happen to be built like the ATF, just longer blonde hair and longer legs. (A note to stick in here, it is not like I am hooked on one style of girl Miss A is nothing like the ATF). Miss J is busy at the moment so I let a bouncer know that I am interested in her and to let her know when she leaves that table. He mentions they are 'some high rollers' and she may be busy for a while. No biggie, if she leave the table for any reason (stage, bathroom, etc) just let her know. I got up to tip Miss S and the next thing I know Miss J is getting up from that table as is all the other girls and the 'high rollers' are leaving (I guess they were not rolling much tonight). Miss J heads to the back and on her way out (it looks like she is headed for me), the bouncer stops her. I see her start to look around (he better not be taking her away from me), he says something else to her, she looks the other way. Finally I see him point directly at me ;D. They both come over to the table. He says he was trying to be subtle, she says 'hey Im blonde'. Anyway I was tired of waiting so I ask her is she is ready for some dances. We go up to VIP. Very good dances, she is fun and being as I dont know her that well, I dont really try to break any rules. The next thing I know, I am getting tapped on the shoulder by a bouncer telling me to watch my hands. Granted I have been up there breaking rules before, but one of the times I am not and I get in trouble. I ask Miss J what I did (maybe they changed a rule I dont know about). she says I am doing less than some guys try to get away with and that I wasnt actually doing anything wrong. I decided to stop after that dance as we were the only ones up there and really being watched since I was already 'warned'. I will definitely give her another try sometime and make sure the bounce I like is working the VIP.
Next up, a lesson learned...It is getting really late and Miss P stops by my table. She has been in VIP with someone who bought an hour or so. She mentions that she never even did a dance up there, that he just kept buying drinks and talking. Or as she said "Partying like a rock star". This is one of the dancers I ran into last week at another club (she was there as a customer) and she was quite drunk then too. We start talking and she makes a comment that she has never seen me getting dances before even with the ATF :confused:, but tonight she has seen me with everyone :confused:. I say that as long as I am getting dances with everyone, can I try her. I guess they are about to do a promo dance and she asks if I want that, sure. Well she orders a drink (shot) and when the waitress comes back asks me if I will buy it. I say, "You either get the dance or the drink". (It was late and I had enough for her dance and one more lady I wanted to try). Well she paid for the drink herself (she didnt need it). For the promo dance they are suppose to all come out from the stage, get announced, and then grab a partner. well I sit in back by where they do the dances and she didnt want to walk 'all the way around, just to come back to me'. well the manager made her do it anyway. We go to do the dance and she is talking through most of the first song. Then she undresses and sits there and talks. And when she finally 'dances' (not what I would call it), I am starting to think I should have just bought the drink and forgetten about this. As she is getting dressed, she is commenting about the 'new girl' who was a couple couches down. This also happens to be the other one I wanted to try,but I let her go on. She says the girls talks to much, and must be on something, and....(wow, all seems like things going on with Miss P). So lesson learned...You can get some good dances with a girls who has been drinking, but there is definately a point of diminishing returns.
Last girl, last call, and all that. Well the 'new' girl comes staggering to my table not long after the promo dance and says "I told you I would stop by". The reason I call her the 'new' girls is I guess she worked here about 4 months or so ago. I remember the name, Miss C, but dont really remember her. The first time I went to her stage early in the night she said she remembered me. Said it was during the baseball playoffs. Well anyone there probably does remember me, I was the only one cheering against the Cubs. Bounces were even kidding about throwing me out (it was the night they lost it all). Anyway, she is trying to flag down a waitress before last call. She finally gets ones attention and orders. I dont want to deal with 'will you buy me this' so I say I want a dance. I lead her over to the couchs. (She is drunk too, but I am taking my chances). We chat a bit about why she worked her long ago and came back. She only comes in when she 'needs the money'. Her dances are pretty good. We went to the no touching section instead of the VIP. She had no problem with me touching anyway (hell without a bouncer in this section I probably could have gotten away with more). She at least was still somewhat coordinated in her moves. And the next thing I know she is kissing me (not used to that on a first dance). As she is getting dress I ask when she will be back around. He reply is, "I'm here all weekend, come back tomorrow". I said maybe Sunday, but already have plans for V-day. I am interested in seeing what she does sober, or maybe get her drunk again and see what else happens ;D.

What ever happened to short trips and short reports. I hope I dont bore anyone with these...There will be one more tomorrow after visiting the other club to hopefully meet up with miss N (or miss B, whatever she is calling herself now that she is back).

HC

Moneywise
02-14-2004, 11:07 PM
I love reading em. ;) Keep em coming.

lestat1
02-15-2004, 02:14 AM
Lestat1's St. Valentine's Day Strip Club Extravaganza 2004

Background: I haven't been to a club since last fall, and I haven't been to this club (my favorite one) in even longer. I had been planning the trip for some time, and decided what better way for a single guy to spend V-Day that 'at da club.' I ended up going with a friend of a friend who'd never been to this type of club (nude contact juice bar instead of topless air dances with alcohol) before. The club has recently started doing bed dances, and there were 5 girls working that night (small, neighborhood-type club).

Finances: I went with a basic bankroll of $260+, plus over $100 in singles for tipping. The club used to have $20 private dances with a mandatory tip equal to the price of the song (another $20). They have sinced cut the initial dance price in half, but tip has remained the same (more on this later). Bed dances are $20, or two for $30, $20 tip required per song.

Please Smile: I arrived at the club and sat stage side with my water and a stack of ones. I was pleased to see they have finally installed a pole. The first dancer on stage I've seen before. She has a nice body (slender but with a little belly), but tries to make a "sexy face" that looks more like a painful grimace. It makes her look like she's miserable, which is such a turnoff (as is her extremely short hair). I tipped her on stage about $5, again for the $2 mini-lap after her set, but declined a private dance and didn't interact with her for the rest of the evening. I'll cal her Miss PSG (Please Smile Girl).

Missed Opportunities: The second woman on stage was attractive with long dirty blonde hair, fake but decent breasts, and a dancer's body. I don't remember her outfit save for the knee-high white boots. I tipped her somewhere around $5 while at the stage. She finished her set but was whisked away by my buddy for a "15-minute lingerie show" before I got a chance to get a mini-lap and test drive her dances. I'll
call her Miss GSD (Generic Sexy Dancer). By this time I had noticed the "hottest girl in da club" playing video poker and wandering in and out of the dressing room. She had long very blonde hair,a slender body, and a pretty face. I tend to like "cute" the best, but she was so hot 'n sexy that I kept waiting for her to come by (sexy is a very close second to cute for me, at least in this context). I'll call her Miss HBV (Hot Blonde Vixen). I failed to make eye contact and didn't feel like doing the approaching just then. Seeing as I was tipping each dancer $5 compared to a few other guys tipping $1, and most guys not tipping, and being the best-dressed person in the place i was a little bothered, but no matter, for the third dancer on stage caught my eye...

Conversations With a Bed Dancer: She was incredibly cute, and looked like a college cheerleader with her shoulder length blonde hair and pretty, smiling face. Very girl next door, but with some added sexiness. I'll call her Miss SCG (Sexy Cute Girl). I tipped her my usual $5 or so in ones on stage, and made sure to ask her for a dance when she was done so she didn't slip away from me. After she finished her set we
went to the bartender to purchase a bed dance. This was just as a dancer I knew from my last visit (who gives great dances) took the stage.

I'll call her Miss CNG (Cute Naughty Girl), more on her later. The bartender explained to me that bed dances were 2-4-$30, but I only wanted one. She explained that I could just pay her the $10 if I decided afterwards to get a second song (kind of nice of them to be flexible like that).

Miss SCG took me up to the bed dance room, but it was occupied. So she had us sit down in the vacant VIP room to wait. I normally dread these situations, since I'm shy and have nothing to say, so it gets boring. However, for some reason this time I was feeling good, talkative even. I asked her about all the recent changes to the club. She told me the managers and girls had jointly decided to lower the prices on dances, and that the money was pretty much the same, since guys are buying more now. I noticed when I bought the bed dance that they no longer have tokens like they used to with private dances. The tokens used to go in a special box labeled with the girls' names, presumably so they can get their cut of the dance price at the end of the night. This time, no token, all in the cash register. The girls are working strictly on tips, hence the "mandatory" tip of $20 for the bed dance. She explained that all the minimum tip on all the various dances is the price of what the dance used to be. So $20 tip for a couch dance or bed dance, $100 tip for a lingerie show (which costs $50 for the room). I forgot to ask about the VIP prices. I only mention these pricing details since I know my clubs operate differently than most others. I managed to keep the conversation going with talk of her schedule and her travels to other states to work. She observed that NYC clubs (and most big-city clubs) were terrible, since the customers were mean and aggressive compared to this local club (interesting theory). Chat regulars will appreciate the miracle of me having a calm and even enjoyable conversation with such a beautiful lady. Soon enough the bed dance room was free and away we went. I tipped her $30 upfront thinking she deserved a little extra for the nice chat we had. The bed dance was very relaxing. It's kind of nice to lay down and have her do her thing. I asked her if I could put my arms around her, she said "of course." I have a feeling the club/girls allow more than I bother to ask for, but I kept it to fairly innocent caresses of her waist, arms, and back. She changed positions between laying on top of me and sitting 'cowgirl-style.' The only downside to bed dances is that it can be hard to see her unless you crane your neck forward, since otherwise all you see is a ceiling. I had fun time though, and went for the second dance at $10 (easy decision). I tipped her $30 again, 'cuz I didn't want to tip her less and hurt her feelings or something (I'm so easy it's not even funny). When it was over we thanked each other but I didn't get a hug. It's only a minor issue, she was a cutie and I'll be back to see her for sure!

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto: After my bed dances, I realized I had missed Miss CNG, Miss HBV, and Miss PSG on stage. I decided to approach Miss HBV for a regular private dance, since i wasn't too interested in Miss GSD who was currently on stage. She was sitting next to a guy but not chatting yet, so I actually ended up interrupting her just as she was asking a second guy for a dance. I was polite and did say "when you get a chance" since I wasn't sure if she was busy or not. She told me just a minute, gave a guy a mini-lap, and off we went for a private dance. I tipped her the minimum $20 upfront. For some reason I didn't stop to ask her what the rules are (the club kind of lets the girls decide for themselves, within reason), perhaps because I was distracted. Anyway, I kept my hands to myself (unusual for this club) and she assumed a standard reverse cowgirl lap dance position. Which she kept. For the entire song. It was the most boring, mechanical, impersonal, crappy robot-dance I've ever received. I told her to slow down, as she was hurting me...she did, briefly, but sped up later when I wasn't
aroused enough for her. It hurt. She never even made eye contact once during the song. When it was over, she was out the door with a quick "thanks" before I could put my jacket on. I won't be seeing Miss HBV again, that's for sure. I'll keep trying, but man do I get frustrated that the "hottest girl in da club" so often gives such apathetic dances. I was barely at "half-mast" for the duration of the dance.

Also so much for the theory that by keeping one's hands to oneself you get a better dance (I suspect that rule applies to clubs where you're not supposed to touch the dancer?) Perhaps I just need to ask more, and be vigilant with getting the details of the rules. It's just that I hate to come across as rude or pushy...

Lestat1 the Player: Now on to the grand finale. I couldn't find Miss CNG, my favorite. Normally I'd wait but my buddy was out of money. I must have been on a high from my conversation experience with Miss SCG, since I pulled a confident "player-move" and told the bartender I wanted to see Miss CNG. I tipped her for her efforts, as I had been all night, but a little more this time. I felt like a high-roller, tipping everyone, asking them to bring me women...it was great. I know this is nothing for the other Junkies, but for me, it was a new step in being aggressive and asking for what i want. A rush of customers delayed the bartender, but eventually she brought Miss CNG to me.

What Happens In Here, Stays In Here: Miss CNG didn&#039;t recognize me from my previous visit but did recognize me from her earlier stage set, commenting that I was gone upstairs before she could dance for me. Miss CNG has curly brown hair, a curvy, short body, and very full, natural breasts. She explained the rules to me, sort of. Her pricing is a little different. I bought two private dances from her, and tipped her the standard $40. She said normally she wants a $40 tip per song, and delivers "the best lap dances you ever had." Since I was "new" she said another $20 would cover it. Hmm, ok. First, she had me undress her, which was a first for me. She said it was ok to go at my own pace while she danced in front of me. I wasn&#039;t trying to take my time, it was just dark in there and I had no idea how this black dress with slits in it came off! Eventually she helped me, and I waited for her to start lap dancing me. Oops, in the dark I missed her g-string, she was waiting for me to take it off. <sigh> Some start I was having, can&#039;t even undress a woman properly. I mentioned I like slow, soft dances that were more sensual, and she complied. She also guided my hands to umm...&#039;places.&#039; You now understand why I call her Miss CNG.

I kind of understand why she charges more. There were some minor firsts for me involved in those two dances, some things that pushed the rules of the club but still nothing one would call an "extra." Fear not ladies of SW, I was well-behaved. Perhaps too-well behaved, as I didn&#039;t feel I got my money&#039;s worth like I did with the bed dances. Especially after I bought a third dance and she wanted the full $40 tip this time. I hate ambiguity. I&#039;m too shy to ask for clarification, and too decent to act without asking. As a result, I don&#039;t think I did what she was hinting or guiding me to do. She explained that "what happens in here, stays in here." I assume this little anonymous trip report doesn&#039;t threaten that. ;) She said she was worried about being fired, even though as she put it "we&#039;re not doing much." Whoah! That was suprising to hear, actually. Her dances weren&#039;t all that different than I remember from my previous visits, and she had never said things like that before. I think with the price change she now does more with most guys and so is used to giving the &#039;silent rule&#039; out of habit, but as I&#039;m too timid to &#039;try anything&#039; her dances ended up being more normal. It&#039;s hard to explain, but I got the feeling she was puzzled I wasn&#039;t doing &#039;more.&#039; Just some of the things she said, like: "if there&#039;s anything you want me to do that I&#039;m not doing just ask." Also some good
stripper shit about enjoying her dances with me more than other guys, that I was softly caressing her instead of roughly grabbing her, that I smelled nice (Dolce & Gabanna), and that I was, of course, "a nice guy."

So I enjoyed my dances with her, but I don&#039;t know what to do next time. I&#039;m not looking to do something that could get her or myself in trouble. I also don&#039;t want to pay the higher tip prices (this time it was $130 total cost for 3 songs) when I&#039;m not going to be forward enough to get my money&#039;s worth from it, so to speak. I could tip her less, or talk to her about it...but I&#039;m not looking forward to the awkwardness of that conversation.

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So in the end I spent all of my basic bankroll, but left with most of my singles since I spent so much time getting dances I was barely stage-side. It was a great trip all-in all, some great firsts (whoo-hoo, I talked!) and I&#039;m going to start saving for a return trip. :)

Happy_Camper
02-15-2004, 04:58 AM
Being a single guy, I too thought what better way to spend VD. I was told an old fav of mine was working again and would be there this night. I had been looking forward to seeing her all week. I get to the club and it seems pretty dead, maybe 4 girls working (it is after 9pm). The crowd seems kind of bored with the exception of the two drunk guys yelling for every dancer, but never tipping. I keep watching for girls coming in for thier shift and dont see who I am looking for. The night girls have gone through the rotation and still no Miss N. I give up and leave. Total price $21 including drinks, dinner, cover, tips. Still left in my pocket..too much, so I decide to hit my regular club on the way home. Yes the same one I have been at the last two nights. I get there and this place is at least hopping. And lots of female customers...I stop by to DJ booth to see who is working. Not very many ladies here either. Miss A who I still wanted to see since she wasnt there yesterday was a no show again. Miss C who I had the last dance with the night before was there so I thought I would give her another try. She was busy so I took a seat (not my normal table, but I will survive). She sees me as she is headed toward the dressing room to sits to chat. A promo dance is coming up and she asks if I want it. I take it and we go for the dances. Two more good dances and I ask her if she does VIP dances (I hadnt seen her go up there). She says not usually, but...(my SS detector starts going off and I dont really remember what exactly was said until) What are your expectations in VIP. I say I expect what I am getting here, without my hands being tied to my side. She says she is due of in one girls and I said I would wait. We head back to my table and there are 3 guys sitting there. I ask them to leave and they say no. I point out my drink and Miss C&#039;s drink are there. They dont care, so I let the bouncer make them care. I spend enough that they are not going to let me lose a table while spending on a dance. They get the point and leave. Miss C and I chat it up while waiting for her stage. Well they end up doing a girl on girl show (hot) and lots of female customers going up to tip and getting tops taken off (gotta love those non pros). That done the next girl is up. then they do a stage party. I am begining to think they dont want me to get that dance with Miss C. She is finally on stage and before she comes back out another girls grabs the seat next to me. I dont like to be rude so I chat and keep and eye out for Miss C to come out. I guess I missed her because I see her head back to the dressing room (I assume after seeing me with someone else). Right then this dancer asks if I want a dance I and tell her I am waiting for Miss C. She leaves and Miss C stops by to tell me someone just asked her for a dance. I say go ahead I will wait (since I guess I made her wait til her set was done, but I did that because I planned on more that one or two if they were as good as i expected). So off she goes to do that. Miss GA (the one begging for dance money what the clothes people were there) rolls her chair by and asks for a dance. I just say no, without even giving a reason. Well Miss C finally gets back and I ask if she is ready. Off we go and i take my stuff with since I know someone willl take the table. She does one dance and asks if I want another. i say, "Lets just go ahead and make it a half hour" (meaning, I enjoyed it test is over). She tells the bouncer watching VIP so that he can go take her off line up. Two song into it they call for another promo dance, but she doesnt have to do it since she is doing a timed VIP. She says she loves me for getting her out of that. Well the dances were very enjoyable and several times during this we had other dancers who know me make comments our way. One said "Hey HC, watch your hands" (I had told her about my getting in trouble the night before without doing anything wrong). As our time ran out and we were chatting (and her getting dressed) we discussed how I would know when she was in town again. She took my card and said she would contact me. She also said (SS again), I would be more incentive for her to come back sooner since she enjoyed spending time with me more than the others. I asked if she wanted to sit for a drink, she said yes. I head out to the main area while she settles up with the house (they take a cut of VIP). All the tables are full so I stand in the back by the cashier and wait for Miss C to come by (I was talking with Mia the manager who tell me about the ATF and that she was back to working days. I say, let her know I dont plan on coming in at those times until she tells me herself. which is what was discussed the last time I actually talked to her). Miss C again slips by without my noticing. I next see her doing a dance in the non touch area. She finishs that sees me and comes right over. She said she was sorry she didnt see where I was at so she did the dance. Now the same guy wants to take her to VIP for the rest of the night. I say no problem I understand (heck, she told me about it was better than most would have done). I remind her that I would like to see her when she is back. She gives me a kiss and heads off. I get ready to leave when approached by Miss GA again. She is having a bad night and starts laying into me about how i said no and then go off and do a half hour with...She goes into being mean about my favs. Saying how at least when dancing is over she is smart and has her degree while the ones I am spending money on are not the brightest so she wins out in the long run...(I dont see how this will work in getting me to spend on her, but..) I thought she was a friend of the ATF&#039;s so I really dont get it. GA is nice and all (and fun to talk with), but she isnt what turns me on. I dont like being mean but it isnt worth it to put of with her (maybe a question for the &#039;doctors&#039;).

So not what I planned, but still made for a fun V-Day. As of right now I dont have a near future visit planned unless Miss A, or the ATF contact me with a request to come in sooner

HC

Chuck149
02-15-2004, 05:53 AM
Wow! Great reports Lestat1 and HC. I&#039;ve been saving my SC visits and $$$$ for the convention in MB (35 days to go) so reading these trips is helping to stave off the hunger LOL

fishnet
02-15-2004, 05:59 AM
LOL...and all this time I thought you weren&#039;t posting TR&#039;s because you were getting FBR style privates and didn&#039;t want any incriminating evidence. LMAO!!! ;)

High Roller
02-15-2004, 07:19 AM
Great reports guys. I concur with MW. Keep &#039;em coming. That means you too Lestat!!! Break out of your shell. ;)

Okay, yesterday I&#039;m on the phone with my bud making plans for Sunday. We are both online monitoring messageboard activity and LOAO at some of the posts. All of a sudden I get the e-mail from HG @ 17:35. :o I tell my bud that she is working if I&#039;m there and Sunday was out for me. :P Am I an F&#039;ing PL or what? ::) I had been watching the cams hoping to see Miss T. The locker rooms were empty. :( After trying 3 new girls, I know how hard HG would be to replace. Each had their positives. None have the total combination. :( I replied to the e-mail and started getting ready.

I got to the club late for me. The feature was already 2 songs into her act. I headed for the bathroom and saw HG heading my way. Very unusual because I never see her till the video sale. (cattle call) When I asked her why she was on the floor early, the answer was to look for me. Duh! LOL. Good SS.

She came off stage for the sale and we were off! My usual seat in the VIP was taken. >:( Damn! didn&#039;t they see the commerative plaque with my name on it? :D
She said she knew a good spot in the PR. The chair she picked happend to be my GF&#039;s fav also. LOL. We camped out. Gawd it was nice to see her after 3 weeks. Despite a feature and being in a different chair, bouncer presence decreased considerably. ;D I took full advantage. ;) Two way contact in this oneway establishment is the best you can hope for. ::) HG delivered. We had fuuuun!!!! ;D When the bouncers were around I was an angel, when they weren&#039;t, my halo disappeared. :o I was low on funds and could only be a fucko for 4.5 hours. :( Even so, it was a great Valentine&#039;s Day! ;D

Richard_Head
02-15-2004, 09:17 AM
I was low on funds and could only be a fucko for 4.5 hours. :( Even so, it was a great Valentine&#039;s Day! ;D

LOL HR, ONLY 4.5 hours, I can&#039;t remember the last time I stayed that long, I&#039;m usually broke by that time, you really are a major league fuckoe.

Richard_Head
02-15-2004, 09:49 AM
Great report lestat, I&#039;m not sure I would like that club, they sounds too ambiguous with their pricing.

My take on the "whatever happens in here stays in here" line the dancer fed you, in my mind that&#039;s a clear signal to push the limits, she&#039;ll let you know her boundaries from there, go for it.

What exactly are the mini-dances?

Happy_Camper
02-15-2004, 11:00 AM
I too have gotten the &#039;whatever happens here, stays here&#039; comment before. This was after the sales line of "I give the dirtiest, sluttiest dances here. Do you want to try one?" Needless to say, it wasnt me pushing the boundries. And truth in advertising was a good thing. After the first set of dances (hands were all over the place in the one way touch club). The bouncer tells me I am not &#039;suppose&#039; to touch. This after watching the entire show and the dancer telling me not to worry about him....He must have been saying it so the other people up there would hear.

And Lestat1, the SC is what helped me get over my shyness. Ask any dancer that knows me and they wont believe I am overly shy. Ask any of my &#039;normal&#039; friends and they will agree. If the ladies can be someone different, why cant we? Best practice for small talk ever. Beautiful women in various stages of undress wanting us.