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Golden_Rule
03-25-2008, 08:28 PM
It was a great night HB. The heavy tip for the stage show paid off in several ways. 1. Even when I was turning dancers down at my table they thanked me again for "that tip". 2. the second round of stage tips got me a lot of personal attention at the tip rail. I've never had so many tits pressed into my face during a stage tip. A few of them held my face to their chest then slowly got up with my face slowly sliding down their tight bellies and my nose getting caught on the top of their G string. The LPDB even did a 1/2 song table dance for me when she got off the stage the first time because I was the only one who tipped her during her set.

Understand this is not a critique. In fact it has nothing to do with SPLUT at all. What ever he wants to do is, obviously, just fine because the only person SPLUT needs to be OK with is SPLUT.

I am asking for *me* to see if anyone else thinks the same way I do because I am curious to know about what percentage my way of thinking represent among our number. Such knowledge might not only sooth curiosity, but help explain the dynamics in play around here [if not strip-clubs in general] to anyone who might be interested in following along.

Now, you said you dropped about $500 in this particular evening and described, very well I might add, how you felt said money helped enhance your evening.

Can I ask those assembled if, despite your ability to spend this [we'll presume it is a mere drop in the bucket for those of us here]:

1) Do you consider what else that same amount might purchase?

2) Does it matter to you what amounts others spend to get more or less than you do or is just "what ever it takes -whatever I feel that night" that defines your process?

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Since it is only fair to ask someone a question in a venue like this if you are willing to answer it yourself I will:

1) I do consider what else the money might purchase.

Example: When I use to go to PEC or Hustler and drop $1500-$2000 on an evening it occurred to me one day that this amount of money could purchase a nice three day weekend away.

Now, even though at the time I could afford both when I stopped to ask myself if an evening in an S-C was worth the same as a three day weekend, in say Bermuda, I came to the conclusion that for me it was not. Therefore I stopped spending that kind of money because I could no longer justify it to myself. There was no personal rational for it.

2) In my case I have to answer yes. I don't care if I get it all in a pretty pink ribbon. If I know I shot the moon to get it and find out the same service is available for less to someone else it really crisps my cookies.

Again, this is just me and the only reason I am asking is to find out if I am the only person who thinks this way, if I am fairly representative of the thinking around here, or somewhere in the middle.

Jay Zeno
03-25-2008, 09:28 PM
I only spend what I can afford to spend. If I need the money for a three-day weekend, I don't spend it. So my cost-benefit analysis line isn't even on the same graph, to my view.

lestat1
03-25-2008, 10:13 PM
1) Do you consider what else that same amount might purchase?

2) Does it matter to you what amounts others spend to get more or less than you do or is just "what ever it takes -whatever I feel that night" that defines your process?


(1) Not really, but then, the money basically comes out of my entertainment budget, and I live a boring life. All I'd do with stripclub money instead is buy more DVDs, or maybe some more clothes. I don't take a lot of trips, and I live beneath my means. So it's disposable income.

(2) Yes, it matters to me what others spend for the same thing. When I spend more than everyone else (this is not strip club specific, but in general), I feel like a sucker who got "had." I'm incredibly smart academically, but street smart? Not so much. I also remain silent in situations where I should speak up for myself more. So it bothers me when I act foolishly in a "street smart" scenario. Plus, my self-esteem is low enough that I'd take it personally, as in: "Well normally I charge 2X, but for him? Eeeuw, he has to pay 3X."

Lapaholic
03-26-2008, 06:07 AM
1) Yes --- I think of that RIC 360 that I could have or any other toy... Buyers remorse is as much a part of the experience as not. Doesnt change what I do, Ill think the other way too...

2) No ... First I generally dont know what others spend but on those occasions Im out with freinds and I know what being spent - I do I still dont care --- IF i had a fun time then Im a happy camper

SPLUT
03-26-2008, 06:31 AM
Golden Rule -

1. I've spent 30 years thinking about what I "could" have done with the money I've spent for the fleeting pleasures my vices provide. Some day I may have an epiphany, slap myslef on the forehead, and never darken a SC again. Until that happens I don't have a problem with what I spend for my fun.

2. I don't really care what someone else spends, unless of course their overspending pulls a stripper that I wanted, cuz ya know, it's all about me.

We all know that in a SC money talks louder than anything. I was able to get "J" to strip her skirt a song early because I slipped her an extra $5. I thought it was a wise use of my money because I got to see that awsome ass for an extra song. I was also able to get J to interrupt a hustle becasue I made it clear I wanted to give her money NOW vs. maybe getting money later. The fact that she was being called to stage for a 4 song set most likely helped me snag her.

GR - I know I overspent on the stage tips but to tell the truth I decided going in that I was just going to act like Big Dick Willie and spread that money around. I did get a lot more attention than normal and they seemed very happy with their tips. To me it seems like Happy Strippers = Happy customers. I get a littel pissed when I'm in a club and most the patrons are just nursing their one drink while watching the show for free. It's their right, they paid the cover charge, but damn how about helping keep the party going? Is a couple of dollar tips going to kill ya?

SPLUT
03-26-2008, 07:12 AM
So my boss just walked in and dropped an envelope on my desk. He had a big smile on his face. Bonus time!!!

God....I don't need AA I need T&AA.

hockeybobby
03-26-2008, 08:17 AM
^^^There will be happy strippers, oh yes. It's time for a SPLUT PARTY ;D

SPLUT
03-27-2008, 11:40 AM
If you’re really bored- trip report 3-26-08

I’m such a loser.


I spark up the “going to the club” hoot as I roll down the avenue. I decide to hit the ATFs club again, as I might have some small amount of social capital from my visit last week. I turn down the street to the parking lot and do a quick check on how full the lot is…it isn’t. I look over to where the dancers park and there aren’t too many cars there either. There was a quick moment when I thought – maybe I should just go home – but I beat that thought down and headed on in.

Making my way into the club I can already feel a different vibe. There are only about 6 customers in the bar, but of course one of those SOBs just had to be on my table. I move around to the back side again and sit down at the same table that I was at last week. I knew I should stop at the bar to get a beer as it took a couple of songs for the waitress to make a round.

I kick back to watch the stage show. There’s a blonde on stage and I’m starting to get to my Happy Place (herb + beer + T&A). Selena is the first girl to try to make a connection. She’s a cute Latina that I remember from last week. She said that this was only her fourth day dancing total and judging by her game I don’t have a reason to doubt her. I didn’t have time for a green stripper so I turned her loose. I tip the blonde on stage and wait for the next set.

A brunette takes the stage. She has a nice ass and I’m looking forward to her set. She does a decent job and about halfway through her set she’s doing some floor work by my side of the stage and she starts to try and talk to me from the stage. I motion that I can’t hear her and she motions for me to come to the stage. When I got there she just turns around and shakes that ass. Light bulb comes on and I realize that she wanted me to tip her. 1. Splut does not get called to tip. 2. If you want a tip you need to take your top off – NO TIT? NO TIP! I go back to my seat shaking my head. A petite brunette slide in next to me and introduces herself as Savannah. I tell her that I’m waiting on someone and she says “that’s the oldest excuse ever”. Busted!! Big time! She asks who I’m waiting for and I point out the girl on stage. Now I didn’t actually have something set with the girl on stage, but I figured that she would get topless for the last song and I’d go up and tip her then and tell her that I wanted a few dances. Savannah said she would check back with me later. I guess I miscounted the songs because the girl on stage finished without ever taking off her top. I tried to get her attention but I think she was pissed that I didn’t tip when she wanted and she ignored me. No big loss.

Saturn took the stage – she’s a slender black girl. A dude went up to tip her a buck and he got so nice personal attention. I went up with a five and got about half a songs worth of special attention. She recognized me right off the bat from last week. She made a beeline to my table when her set was over. We got a drink and talked for a bit before we went back for a few laps. She was more than could be expected and almost as much as I hoped for. I had a good time with Saturn and she busted my black girl cherry. I’ve lived in the Detroit area my whole life and that was the first time I’ve received a lap from a black honey. She asked if I would buy her another drink, but I told her that I have my eye on another dancer so I would have to decline.

I walk out of the VIP area and find “J” on stage. I feel my heart rate increase as I reach into my pocket for a fiver. She turns around on stage and sees me standing there. I get a big hug and she’s gushing “oh my god, you came back, I so happy to see you, I didn’t think you liked me”. Sheesh woman, I tip your stage shows 15 bucks, get 5 laps from you and tip another 10 but I don’t like you? I slip the fiver in her G string and TELL her that I want some dances when she’s done, not maybe, possibly, I WANT DANCES. When her set is over she gets off stage and goes two tables down to a group of three guys and sits down. Damn!

I watch a couple of sets while J does a slow hustle. From across the room Savannah is giving me the eye. She knows she busted me and I have to believe that she was throwing a couple of choice words at me at least in her mind. I watch her leave the bar and slowly make her way back to my table. She sits down and with a little smile asks if I’m tired of waiting. “Yep, and as soon as I finish this beer we’re going back”. We sit for a couple of songs, her hands are all over me, she says she just a touchy feely kind of girl. After the first song she gets up moves around the table and sits in my lap. She was a very wiggly girl. Savannah was a hustler, she tired to claim that she has a big fear of rejection but I couldn’t see it. She was relentless but in a very fun way. I enjoyed being the recipient of her stripper shit. We put together a 4 song session and I was happy with her dances. She wants to hang out and have me watch her stage set. I tell her that I have someone else that I want to get a couple of dances with and we part in the VIP.

My hearts desire J is still at the same table with those three dudes. I watch a couple more sets and have to send a couple of honeys on their way as I wait for J. It’s getting late and I look over at the right time and catch her eye. I motion back to the VIP, J gets up and I think alright, but she sits down in one of the dudes lap. The song ends and she gets up and starts to head over. J sits down at my table and we get to talking for a few songs. I ask if she got any dances out of them, she says she got two. She plays it off saying it’s ok, that’s not too bad, I have a hard time approaching guys etc. She tells me that she worked the day before and made a total of $6.00. I take her back for a 4 song set. When we get back there a song just started. I wouldn’t have minded if she wanted to count that song, but she stripped down to her G and said “we’ll start next song you can just play with me until then”. Shit that was pretty much a free dance to start thing off.

As I said in my last trip report J is just beautiful. I love the way her small waist flares out to her luscious hips. How her thighs are at the perfect thickness and they just meld into her juicy ass. Now I’m not really a tit man, but her breast are just magnificent. They’re a big B or small C but the thing is – they’re perky. I’m not talking about normal perk. They’re perky like Katie Couric on 10 cups of espresso. I asked her how old she was and she said 21. I knew she had to be young because natural breasts don’t sit like that forever.
21 – Damn she wasn’t even alive when I was 21. J is quickly becoming my new ATF. My only problem is she keeps blowing me off to do these unproductive slow hustles. Both times I‘ve had her dance for me I had to pull her off a table. She’s young so maybe she doesn’t have her hustle down, or maybe she just fucking with me. We’ll see.

hockeybobby
03-27-2008, 08:28 PM
Now I’m not really a tit man, but her breast are just magnificent. They’re a big B or small C but the thing is – they’re perky. I’m not talking about normal perk. They’re perky like Katie Couric on 10 cups of espresso.

I liked this part SPLUT. ;D Thanks for the read dude.

Golden_Rule
03-28-2008, 02:46 AM
Golden Rule -

1. I've spent 30 years thinking about what I "could" have done with the money I've spent for the fleeting pleasures my vices provide. Some day I may have an epiphany, slap myslef on the forehead, and never darken a SC again. Until that happens I don't have a problem with what I spend for my fun.

I am sure we've all been there at least once.

Like I said, when I think about the $$$ I spent in places like PEC and Hustler it doesn't matter to me that I could afford it. I think about all the other things I could have done with it. :)


GR - I know I overspent on the stage tips but to tell the truth I decided going in that I was just going to act like Big Dick Willie and spread that money around. I did get a lot more attention than normal and they seemed very happy with their tips. To me it seems like Happy Strippers = Happy customers. I get a littel pissed when I'm in a club and most the patrons are just nursing their one drink while watching the show for free. It's their right, they paid the cover charge, but damn how about helping keep the party going? Is a couple of dollar tips going to kill ya?

Like I said SPLUT, I promise its not a critique of your spending. I was just curious as to what makes up the general line of thought on this issue within these walls.

And I agree with you about keeping the party going.

I love to enter a place with my friends, find that even though its pretty busy its absolutely dead because there is little tipping going on. My friends and I pick a good spot and the rail and because there's been no bank my friends and my money look even better by comparison. We usually wind up with most of the dancers hanging around us and having a high ol' time. :)

Sometimes it even pays dividends. Though that's one of those things one doesn't look for. You just smile up at the heavens and say thank you if it comes about.

SPLUT
03-28-2008, 04:48 AM
No worries Golden Rule, I never took your question as a critique. I even thought that you tried to structure your wording to avoid that. Maybe one day I will make it to the place you're at now with respect to SC spending. It is strange to think about what a person will spend to do something that interests them. Take golf for example. I just don't get it. A lot of people love it, it's prolly better for you than sitting in a club for 3-4 hours, but you'll never see me on a course. A lot of other people will pay large amounts of money to go to a resort and play 90 holes over two days and three courses. Whether you go away for a few days or spend a few hours in a sc you still get an experience, it's just that you can tell more people about the golf trip. I think we both have the same attitude when it comes down to "to each their own".

It was a good question.

lestat1
04-01-2008, 10:04 PM
Bankroll: $400 + a wad of singles.

I've been itching for a club visit, and now finally over my cold, I head to my favorite club, the nice one. It's fairly dead, and I watch the stage show for a while, tipping the first two dancers although they didn't come by and do the 'personal attention' thing they usually do in my area. I almost never have to toss the money on the stage, but here I did. The third dancer is more attentive, and at this point in the evening I've seen none of my favorites so when she comes by asking me if I want to play (I was tipping at least double or triple what the other guys were) I had a weird panicked moment of: "Hmm, I'm not sure. Possibly, I mean maybe later I might want some but I wonder who else is here" and by mistake, I blurt out something bad - I actually said: "maybe later." :(

Details are now fuzzy, on account of what happened next. A little while later, I see my exact 'type' walk out on stage. Very tall, very thin, and very blonde, with a face that's cute and gorgeous at the same time. Inside my head was something along the lines of: "Holy shit!" It is now my mission to get a dance from her. After her song she stops by me (to pick up all the singles - what can I say, I'm smitten) and asks if I'd just arrived. I said yes, and she says okay, she'll let me relax and enjoy the show but maybe we can get a dance later. I nod, grinning like an idiot, and agree. Only that's not what I meant to do. I meant to get a dance right then and there, but I have this thing where I end up agreeing with whatever a gorgeous woman tells me. It results in lots of refills I didn't need from cute waitresses. So under normal circumstances that would've been a great approach from her, to give me some time, but I really wanted a dance. Oh well.

By now my possible #2 dancer, the Cute Girl Next Door (CGND) from one of my recent trips has made her appearance, but Jaw-Dropping Model Hottie (JDMH) is very busy doing lap dances. So I'm sitting away from the stage and near the private dance booth area, which allows me to do two things: enjoy mini-laps while I wait for JDMH, and keep a close watch for her exit from the private dance booths. I see her briefly, but she's just paying the doorman for another round of dances. A song or two later, she emerges and makes her way towards my area. The guy next to me gets up first and bee-lines towards her. Damn, he won that round, and he kept her back getting private dances for probably 4 songs.

I get a few more mini-laps, turn down a few dancers I'd say yes to under other circumstances, and bide my time. I purchase two 2-4-1 tokens (a Tuesday thing); they work well for me, because I still tip the dancers as if it were two songs (actually, I tip a little better than normal) so they end up making much more than if I'd just done the one-song. These are good tonight, because I'm not sure how to handle JDMH. Normally an unknown dancer gets one dance from me so I can see if our styles are compatible, and normally I'd get a mini-lap from her first as a test. Tonight that won't be possible (she's too busy), and I have a feeling I'll end up wanting more than once dance from her. This club really does the package deal thing well, and buying dances one at a time is very expensive in comparison. $25 to the club and $25 to the girl for 3 minutes, or do the 4-song, 12-minute special of $60 to the club and ~$80 to the dancer. $200 vs $140. Additionally, I'm thinking that after JDMH I'll want to get dances from my #2, CGND. CGND is a guaranteed grind-to-orgasm, based on her prior lap dancing performance, and JDMH is an unknown, so natually JDMH has to occur first in time. A 2-4-1 with each is sounding perfect, if only I can get ahold of JDMH. Yes, I'm overly-analytical, but damn it makes me an excellent analyst/programmer.

Now it gets interesting. Guess who they announce on stage next? Miss E. My current favorite. My possible 12-year, All-Time Favorite. Miss E, who I've looked for on my last two visits and not found. The sensual, delicately feminine, graceful, deliciously sultry, exotically beautiful, Miss E. She is so sexy without ever being crass. I hate to say something as cheesy as "ladylike" but she has that black&white movie era star quality. She looks born to float down the red carpet in a $20K dress. Is it too late for me to not sound like a PL? Anyway, I head to the stage and plop down. She smiles at me and says hello. She knows I'm guaranteed dances. I tip her well, and don't wait around much at the end of her stage set. This throws a wrench into things. Okay, CGND is out, now it's a 2-4-1 with JDMH, then the rest of my cash goes to Miss E.

As I head back to my seat, I see JDMH now working the guys behind me. Doh! I sit, and very soon after accept a mini-lap from some new dancer. She was a little odd. She was trying to be teasey but she made this "oohh-hmmm" noise dozens of times, as in everytime she'd tug aside her dress or show some skin. At least it kept me occupied. I hoped Miss E would move on to collect stage tips from the guys not at the tip rail, leaving me time to hit up JDMH. Nope, Miss E sat down right next to me and waited for weird noise girl to finish up. WNG does, and Miss E smiles at me and asks if I want a dance. Bottom line, as much as JDMH blew me away, unknown hottie can't compare to a tried and true favorite, and so off with Miss E I go.

Miss E, simply put, is either reading my mind, reading my TRs, just happens to be exactly my style, or is very good at reading people. Granted, I'm pretty easy to read. I am PL-ishly gentle at two-way contact clubs, enough so for more dancers than I can count to remark on my touch or thank me for not being grabby or rough. So I would think it's fairly obvious that I'm looking for very soft/gentle in return. In any case, we get through our two songs. I have a few moments where I have to concentrate and tense up a bit to hold back, but I succeed. She asks if I want another dance. I said merely "Yes please!" as I handed her the second 2-4-1 token, and tip $60 upfront as I had for the first 2-4-1. It's more of the same, and she is very good at pausing the grind but not stopping the hotness. She removes my glasses, and gets very close. Ear nuzzling, cheek to cheek, gentle breast rubbing against my face, using her hair, all the stuff I love! I hold out again somehow, and purchase two more dances. They've stopped doing 2-4-1s, so these are full price, but I tip $60 again upfront. She's a bit more intense this time. I love that she knows to draw it out a bit and give me some good teasing, but that ultimately enough is enough! :)

She offers a little light SS here and there "I missed you," and "I was thinking about you." Anyway by now I can feel her getting a little sweaty, I'm panting like I just ran a race, and she's no longer sitting in my lap. She's sort of draped against my body like she melted into me. I've got my arms around her back, she's running her fingers through my hair and writhing into me. I don't exactly "grind back" but at this point I am no longer completely passive but moving with her ever so slightly. Yes, I'm getting that "lost in the moment" feeling. I finish up just seconds after the light goes out, ending our six-song marathon. I, simply put, exploded. Thank goodness for the lap dance blanket she uses! She grinned and told me "so you're done now!" I know six-songs doesn't sound like a lot to some, but from what I see, most people get 1-4 songs here (this is a non-stop grind club at $50/song). In hindsight, I should just stick to the 4-song special with Miss E. I know I'm going to end up getting a lot, and it's a much better deal. Perhaps next time will be two 4-song deals. That'd be a new high record for me from one dancer or in one sitting, but then I did just get a nice raise. :) She hands me my glasses, I stagger to my feet, and she hugs me and asks when she'll see me again. I say soon I hope, and she tells me that's what I said last time. I told her I missed her on my last two visits. This is a scenario where I'd actually like an e-mail address so I can request her schedule, but I'm not the type to ask for that sort of thing.

Whew; what a night, and what a great way to spend $300 (plus singles). Six songs would normally be $150 in tips and I gave her $180, but she's so freaking worth it. I feel like I tipped decently moreso than I overtipped. I bet some guys do 2-4-1s and tip a mere $25 as opposed to my $60, but from the experiences I've had here, that tipping has brought me consitently top-notch dances. I miss the higher contact of the other club, but I'm appreciating the quality of my experiences at this club more and more.

crizgolfer
04-01-2008, 10:22 PM
NIce TR Lestat.

Bob_Loblaw
04-01-2008, 10:38 PM
Good TR 'stat. Too bad you didn't get to sample JDMH (this time) but I don't think anyone could knock you for sticking with your go to girl.

I got a kick out of how you organized and reshuffled your dance card rotation as I do the same.

hockeybobby
04-02-2008, 05:49 AM
A good read Stat, very entertaining. Thank you.

CalifSCVisitor65
04-02-2008, 08:45 PM
Nice reading material and I may be mis-reading but $50/dance? :O

Ouch

lestat1
04-03-2008, 06:27 AM
Nice reading material and I may be mis-reading but $50/dance? :O

Ouch

Yup. :(

Golden_Rule
04-03-2008, 12:24 PM
Yup. :(

Why a sad face though?

Seriously.

S-Cs should be as little as possible about buyer's remorse. That is why I use the formula I mentioned before. Measuring the worth of the S-C experience not in terms of whether I can afford it or not, but in terms of what that money could purchase me elsewhere which I might enjoy as much or more.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just saying what works for me. This way, $5-$50-$500-$5000, I never regret what I paid for some fun - what ever that fun might be - because I've already concluded this is the best time I could have with that money. If I thought different, if I thought I could have more fun doing something else, I'd spend it doing that.

BTW, I for me personally - in your average S-C [I am not saying there might not be an S-Cs whose amenities and the quality of the dancers and dances might not rate it, I am saying average] - a dance isn't worth $50. In fact, when the some of the local clubs raised their LD rates to $30 for about 4 minutes they failed the formula test I mentioned above and they lost my business. There are clubs that charge $30 for a dance that I go to but there is something: quality of the place, dancers, dances, that makes it worth it. They bring something more to make the extra money worth the spending.

I'm a you "charge me more you better be bringing something more to the table" kind of fellow. That's just me though.

Anyway, my point is that if how much a dance costs makes you :( than you shouldn't do it. Spend it somewhere that makes you :) instead. Life's too short, ya know. :D

And if I read too much into the :( , my apologies up front.

yoda57us
04-03-2008, 04:33 PM
Can I ask those assembled if, despite your ability to spend this [we'll presume it is a mere drop in the bucket for those of us here]:

1) Do you consider what else that same amount might purchase?

2) Does it matter to you what amounts others spend to get more or less than you do or is just "what ever it takes -whatever I feel that night" that defines your process?



Well, I wouldn't classify $500 as a drop in the bucket for me but it is possible that I would spend that much during an extended visit-maybe hitting a couple of clubs in a night or spending an entire afternoon with my ATF.
I honestly don't put myself in a position where I have to think about what else I could be spending that on. If I need the money for something else I don't spend it in a strip club.

I don't worry too much about what others spend. It doesn't effect my enjoyment in the club so why would I care?

lestat1
04-03-2008, 05:02 PM
Why a sad face though?

Seriously.

S-Cs should be as little as possible about buyer's remorse. That is why I use the formula I mentioned before. Measuring the worth of the S-C experience not in terms of whether I can afford it or not, but in terms of what that money could purchase me elsewhere which I might enjoy as much or more.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just saying what works for me. This way, $5-$50-$500-$5000, I never regret what I paid for some fun - what ever that fun might be - because I've already concluded this is the best time I could have with that money. If I thought different, if I thought I could have more fun doing something else, I'd spend it doing that.

BTW, I for me personally - in your average S-C [I am not saying there might not be an S-Cs whose amenities and the quality of the dancers and dances might not rate it, I am saying average] - a dance isn't worth $50. In fact, when the some of the local clubs raised their LD rates to $30 for about 4 minutes they failed the formula test I mentioned above and they lost my business. There are clubs that charge $30 for a dance that I go to but there is something: quality of the place, dancers, dances, that makes it worth it. They bring something more to make the extra money worth the spending.

I'm a you "charge me more you better be bringing something more to the table" kind of fellow. That's just me though.

--edited out the bottom of your post due to smiley-limit being reached.

There is an element of my strip club visits that is about pure fun and entertainment, but the fun part is secondary to the "make the pain go away part." It's more about soothing the ache for female contact to make the hurt, horniness, and loneliness go away for a little while. To put it another way, I don't typically go to the strip club when I'm in a good mood, but rather when I'm in a bad mood. At $50/song, that bad mood has to get pretty bad before I go and feel it's worth it (and I do feel it's worth it and I don't regret the money I spent on my visit).

At perhaps $30 a song though, I could go more often and before my mood gets quite so dark. So that's where some of the :( comes in. Also, if I believe what I read on SCL.com, there are many guys tipping half of what I tip or less and getting as good or better dances for it. So after 12 years I still don't know much, and I do sometimes spend $50 and get a lousy dance for it (one of the reasons I'm so loyal to my established favorites). So there's another :( aspect to the $50/song. It'd be nice to experiment a bit more and try more of the dancers, but at their prices it's not as feasible as I'd like. So still another little :( to the pricing. Also, from what I read on here, the dances I get at $50/song are nothing different than your standard two-way contact nude grind dance available at half the price all over the place.

There is a club out in my area, but out in the middle of nowhere I've yet to try, but it sounds like a dive. Hmm...

SPLUT
04-04-2008, 06:22 AM
All Time Favorite.

We all have one. Sometimes you run up on a stripper that dethrones your current ATF. The Queen is dead! Long live the Queen. My current ATF no longer strips but she is still the Queen of my pervdom.

I first saw her hanging upside down from the top of the pole, using just the crook of her knee to support her. She was a cute redhead (G-d do I love redheads) that liked to wear stockings and garters. She wasn’t the best looking dancer in the place, 32 years old with a 7 year old son. Her ass had settled some and her breasts were a natural B, but I found her to be damn sexy. I noticed she wore a pentagram necklace when I went up to tip her.

Since I was the only one to tip her during her set she came and sat with me. I asked if she was Wiccan and she gave me a big smile. She said that everyone else always thinks she’s into devil worship or black magic and it was nice to meet someone who knew about Wicca. We talked about esoteric beliefs for a while and got real comfortable with each other. I noticed that her SS was to talk about her sex life; “So I was at this orgy last weekend” “I was getting finger cuffed by these two guys when this one dude stuck his thumb in my ass, like WTF?” It was pretty effective as I started to think about her on all fours just getting hammered and the little head started to move a little. So we went back to the VIP for some fun.

She took me to the most private seat in the VIP. The seat has walls on three sides and is the only seat that doesn’t face another one. As she starts to dance she leans in and tells me that she likes to be spanked. I thought this was just some more stripper shit but she offered up her ass to be spanked and said” go head”. I pulled back and gave her ass a little slap. She gave me the most dismissive look and said “I told you to spank it not caress it!” Whoa Nellie…I laid down a thunderous slap on her ass. It stung my hand, but all she did was to moan, grab me by the back of the head and whisper into my ear “again”. I spanked that ass again as hard as I could but she just moaned, turned around and ground that ass into my crotch. I ended up hitting that ass several more times during our first song

When the first song ended she asked if I wanted to do another. I told her I would be walking funny if I left right now so why don’t we do another 3 or 4 dances. Second dance started and she turned her back to me to lean back and grind a little. I brought my hands up to caress her breasts. She tilted her head back and told me to ‘take them deep” I didn’t understand what she meant so she placed her hands over mine and started to press my hands down hard on her breasts as she slowly moved both pairs of hands up her chest. If her breasts were made of putty we would have scraped them off of her chest.

I thought to my self “if she liked that she might like this”. I took both of her nipples between my thumb and forefinger. I applied light pressure and started to lift her breasts up off of her chest. I lifted them about 2 inches and then started to apply pressure to her nipples. Alternating between soft and hard pressure I was tapping out some PL Morse code on her nips and all she did was moan and grind even harder. We went at it like this for three songs. I was in a haze of ass spanking and nipple tweaking during the fourth song when she suddenly bolted from my lap. I looked up wondering what was wrong; she was standing against the wall with a weird look on her face. Her legs were pressed together from her crotch to her knees with her feet splayed out a little. The way she was standing made me wonder if she wet herself, or was it that time of the month and the tampon shifted? She smiled at me and then slipped two fingers into her G string. She pushed off the wall and came towards me as she pulled her fingers form her G. In the dim light I saw fingers glisten. She swiped her fingers across my lips and they felt very wet. Maybe I should have wiped my lips off with my hand, but just like the PL I am I licked them clean. Yep…I knew that flavor. I said hmmm…fruity. She said she had been eating a lot of mangoes lately.

Golden_Rule
04-05-2008, 01:16 AM
I honestly don't put myself in a position where I have to think about what else I could be spending that on. If I need the money for something else I don't spend it in a strip club.

OK, but that is not exactly what I was asking about. I meant not need vs. fun. That's apples and oranges. I meant one kind of fun vs another kind of fun.

It is like I was suggesting to Lestat above.

Do you consider other kinds of fun you could have with that money and, having thought about it, are sure you have gotten the most fun for your buck.

I guess what I am driving at is does anyone suffer "buyers remorse" regarding money they spent in their S-Cs. Or, like me, do you folks put some thought into it and make a conscious decision that, at that moment, this is the best thing I can do with this money so I'm not going to regret having done it.

[/quote]I don't worry too much about what others spend. It doesn't effect my enjoyment in the club so why would I care?[/QUOTE]

I think you are probably right. I do know that *I*, personally, would have my good time affected if I was paying more for the same experience someone else was having for less. It would make me feel like I am getting the short end of the stick.

Yours is probably the healthier approach on that issue. I just don't think I'll be able to change the way I feel about that though. And dancers are SOOO YMMV that you have to know they are always treating different "custies" in different ways. Most even treating the same customers in different ways on different days. So it is a real issue, the potential to find out someone is getting more than you are and for less.

Especially when you are sharing info on the boards, etc. :)

Golden_Rule
04-05-2008, 02:07 AM
There is an element of my strip club visits that is about pure fun and entertainment, but the fun part is secondary to the "make the pain go away part." It's more about soothing the ache for female contact to make the hurt, horniness, and loneliness go away for a little while.

God damn, Lestat. I don't know what to say. I'm not a "funny" fellow but that makes me want to give you a hug. [a manly, I feel for a brother, sort of thing. Not that there is anything wrong with that {said in my best Seinfeld voice} :) ]

Can I suggest something that is an opinion of mine?

Strip-clubs are like a condiment that makes a good life a little more exciting. It is lousy at filling empty holes.

Like alcohol, it can make you giddy if you are in a good mood but if you are feeling blue it is only apt to make you more depressed in the long run.

If I was feeling down, candidly, I'd avoid strip-clubs like the plague. I'd go someplace where I can interact with people who were up and being their natural selves. [There is little 'natural' about strip-clubs... its fantasy land]

If it was specifically female company I desired I would go to my wife. If my wife or girl-friend wasn't able to be that company for me I'd realize it either needs to get fixed or its time to leave and find someone who can be that company everyone needs. If I didn't have a Lady in my life I'd go to places the type of women I like to spend quality time with congregate. I'd be open, available, and friendly without projecting neediness and just let nature take its course.


Also, if I believe what I read on SCL.com, there are many guys tipping half of what I tip or less and getting as good or better dances for it.

Seriously. If you go to S-Cs only when you feel good I think you will find you will be getting a better quality of dances.

I can only tell you what works for me but when I feel good and go to an S-C to express those good feelings in the kind of way a man can in an S-C I usually do OK. I find that the best way to get good dances is to cause the dancer to relax and let her guard down. It is hard to relax around someone who is feeling down.

In my case I get a dancer to relax by getting her to laugh with me. If I can get her legitimately chuckling along with my antics there is a better chance for some natural chemistry to take place. That provides the best chance for two people to be willing to have a little fun with their business.

It is certainly a business to the dancer, and there is no reason it shouldn't be, but if someone can have fun while doing their business why wouldn't they want to. All they have to do is be comfortable enough to trust you a bit so they don't feel they have to be wary and looking out for themselves. Then you let them take the lead, so they stay comfortable, and they'll let you know how far they are willing to go with you. Of course letting them know you can be an appropriately appreciative soul, while also projecting you aren't a patsy at the same time, certainly can't do anything but help the situation.

By getting them to relax, let their guard down, and draw them in making them my "partner in crime" I've had some dancers take me pretty damn far, even on our first time around the cubicle/vip, what-have-you. }:D ;) :)

Anyway, excuse my being presumptive enough to think you might want a suggestion at all, but if you think it helped any I am glad of it. If not, I'll gladly stick it and shut up. :)

azdd
04-05-2008, 06:06 AM
^^^^^Excellent post GR!^^^^^^^^

Your post above contains better wisdom and truth about the whole SC experience than I've seen in a long time. This should be required reading for every new junkie. Thanks. :worship:

3-Legged Man
04-05-2008, 08:17 AM
Rather than re-analyzing Golden Rule's psychoanalysis, I'll content myself to comment on Splut's trip report. My first feeling is jealousy. For the hundreds or thousands of lapdances that members here pay for and enjoy, how many of them bring such reciprocal pleasure to the dancer? I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of such a deeply shared experience as what you describe.

Secondly, I feel profound sadness for you, since you say the ATF in your story is no longer dancing. I remember the pain of when my first fave quit dancing (to join the Army of all things!!) It's like a death in the family. Your other posts seem to imply that you've moved on from there, so I guess it's all good. Clearly, you have an ALL-TIME Fave.

Finally, I'm grateful to you for sharing that experience. It gives me inspiration. Keep up the good work!

Bob_Loblaw
04-05-2008, 12:14 PM
+1 GR

lestat1
04-05-2008, 02:13 PM
GR, that was a sound post with good advice that would guide your average guy well. You haven't been around here long enough or read enough of my complaining, ranting (perhaps whining) posts to know, but I'm not average. I'll be 30 soon and I've had two girlfriends in my life. I go out every weekend with my friends, and in ~13 years I've never so much as obtained a woman's number. Therapy couldn't even help me my extreme low self-confidence. I've said it before, but if I could go back in time and prevent my own birth, I would. I'm less shy now then I was, friendly at times even. There are people that actually think I'm outgoing and hysterically funny (okay, I know I'm funny, but outgoing!?) My point being, that while you (like most normal, healthy adults) have other avenues of female companionship in your life and may use strip clubs for the pure entertainment value, I don't have the same luxury.

miabella
04-05-2008, 02:33 PM
you need a wing-girl.

Golden_Rule
04-05-2008, 08:55 PM
^^^^^Excellent post GR!^^^^^^^^

Your post above contains better wisdom and truth about the whole SC experience than I've seen in a long time. This should be required reading for every new junkie. Thanks. :worship:

I don't know what to say to such kind words other than thank you.

So, Thank You.

Golden_Rule
04-05-2008, 09:14 PM
GR, that was a sound post with good advice that would guide your average guy well. You haven't been around here long enough or read enough of my complaining, ranting (perhaps whining) posts to know, but I'm not average. I'll be 30 soon and I've had two girlfriends in my life. I go out every weekend with my friends, and in ~13 years I've never so much as obtained a woman's number. Therapy couldn't even help me my extreme low self-confidence. I've said it before, but if I could go back in time and prevent my own birth, I would. I'm less shy now then I was, friendly at times even. There are people that actually think I'm outgoing and hysterically funny (okay, I know I'm funny, but outgoing!?) My point being, that while you (like most normal, healthy adults) have other avenues of female companionship in your life and may use strip clubs for the pure entertainment value, I don't have the same luxury.

Hmmm.

I don't know what to say to this either other than to tell you that its never too late to turn a new page. I know that sounds like self-help bull crap, but its just basic moving on and ahead.

You say its better now than it was in your youth. I am sure it will continue to improve, if that is what you want. Others, like counselors, family, friends, people on boards like these, can talk to you and tell you what they think. Maybe it helps. Maybe it doesn't. What I know is true more than any thing in the world is that we are all born with a set of internal instructions that provide all the answers we are ever going to need. It's all within each of us to expand, grow and change. Just because few do it doesn't mean it can't be done.

The trick, and it is no easy feat, is to get at those answer inside yourself.

I truly hope you find yours.

I know I'll keep a good thought and wish you, mightily, well with it.

Golden_Rule
04-05-2008, 09:40 PM
you need a wing-girl.

Everyone can use a wing-girl.

Hell, some of the best fun I've had in S-Cs is when I take a gal-pal with me as a wing-man.

The Boob
04-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Went to 7-11:
crew there were a bunch of scrubs, ranging from 2's to 5's. No contact either.

don't buy the Taquitos in the evening when they've been rolling on the heater for hours, you've got to get those in the morning. My God the Taquitos were not tasty anymore.

On way out, considered going to stripclub. So Drove straight to movie store and rented lukewarm porn. This Saved $90. But I still lost. My God the porn was not compelling. There was no suspense, you know? You want there to be some dramatic tension in a movie. Whereas porn is very easy to anticipate what's going to happen.

Now considering going to Amateur Night at stripclub tonight. But have read on StripperWeb how those contests are all rigged. Which makes them more sexy and hot than ever. Because now I know that lots of nervous newbies are getting naked who have no chance of winning even if they're far and away the most entertaining or gorgeous person in the contest. This is hot. That they're getting naked for no actual reason and they don't know. Maybe I'll go. But probably not. I mean who actually goes anymore?

Golden_Rule
04-09-2008, 03:32 AM
That was funny. :)

SPLUT
04-11-2008, 07:04 AM
Nothing to see here folks – move along-

After two periods the Wings and Preds were tied 1-1. What could I do to help my team? The mojo joints weren’t helping, we didn’t score any more goals and I was getting stoned off my ass. Boobs!!! Yeah…boobs! I mean if nothing else they would lessen the sting of a possible Wings loss.

I make it to the club with around 15 minutes left in the third period. I check the stage and am happy to see my new fav Ms. J on stage. It’s her first song so I hit the bar to get a beer, put in a keno ticket (sucker), and get some stage tip money. By the time I got squared away Ms. J was just getting into her second song. I slide up to the stage to tip her show and get a big smile and a hug. I slip a 10 into her G while telling her that I want to get some dances with her after the game. She asks which game as they had both the Wings and Tigers on. I told her hockey, she smiled again and said OK. As she slowly stood up she slid her skirt down and kicked it to where her top was. She remembered that I am an ass man and gave it up a song early – yay!. During her third song Ms. J showed off a couple of pole tricks she has learned since my last visit. I had to tip her an extra fiver for the effort she was putting out.

Ms. J finished her set and disappeared into the dressing room. I split my attention between the Wings and the girls on stage. There were 15 girls there last night, and I’ve had laps from 5 of them. There’s a few more that I recognize from their stage shows including the one girl who has a bear claw tat over her left breast. I love that tat and she always gets a 5 out of me. I knew I was going to have to play some Lidstrom grade defense on my wallet or I wouldn’t make it till the end of the third period.

One hottie tried to hustle me while Ms. J was on stage but she quickly saw it was of no use. She said ‘you come her for her don’t you”? I just shook my head yes and she said “nice meeting you, maybe we’ll hook up later” and left. The Little pole dancing blonde was there last night also, but I had to politely blow her off as I was waiting for my fav. The game ended and not a minute later Ms. J was at my table. I told her that I was happy to see her as I was going broke doing stage tips. She gave me a little pout and asked if I saved any for her. I told her that the stage and beer money didn’t come from her fund.” I have my own fund? “Yeah baby, you have your own fund that none of these other girls are ever going to get close to. I tell her I have to tip a couple of girls on stage and we’ll go back as soon as I get back to the table. Both of these girls have danced for me before and I watched their sets before Ms. J showed up so I just couldn’t stiff them. When I get back to the table the shot girl has made herself at home. I’ve been able to blow her off the last couple of visits. She saw me and knew I wouldn’t get a shot, but I asked Ms. J if she would like one. She ordered one and the shot girl said “now I know how to get to you”.

We head back to the VIP and Ms. J puts me in my happy place. After the first song she asks if I want another. I tell her we’re going to do 5 and to just stop there. Five is about perfect; I really needed a break after that session. Ms. J said I gave HER a workout, but it was me who was adjusting more clothing before we left. I told her that I wanted to do this again and she said “cool, well come back next week”. I told her “no, you don’t understand I want to do this again tonight” I told her I needed to catch my breath and get a couple of beers. She said she’ll just go freshen up. I get a table and order up a couple of beers. A girl who I’ve gotten some very naughty dances from sits down and we have a nice chat. Her hands are very busy but they were not enough to make me forsake Ms. J and I send her on her way. I watch more than a couple more stage shows wondering where Ms. J went. When I went up to tip the 4th, or maybe 5th stage I notice that Ms. J is sitting by herself on a couch. I grab up my keno ticket and head to the bar to have it checked - loser. On the way back I collected Ms. J up and headed back to the VIP. We did another string of 5 dances. During the last song she told me again that I’m giving her a workout. I told her I knew as she was “glistening”. “OH MY GOD, I’m not grossing you out am I?” “Oh, hell no baby it just adds to your sexy”. We finish and she says she definitely needs to freshen up.

I get a table and order a beer and check my money – it’s definitely on the low side. By my own rules of conduct I’m about to toss myself out of the club when my mongering PL self demanded some attention. I was going to look for the naughty dancer but had no need as another dancer who had given me some very naughty dances slid into the chair next to me. This girl gave me a lot of personal attention including more than just a flash of the kitty during an earlier stage set. I told her that I only have $20.00 left and that I hate being a 1 dance man, but I would love to take you back. We talked for a couple of songs on the floor and she acting like we were already in the VIP. I was surprised that bouncer didn’t tell us to knock it off. Naughty Dancer #2 had to do a 4 song stage set before I could take her back so I slid a fiver into her G before her set telling her to come back right after her set.

When ND#2 went on stage Ms. J came and sat with me for a couple of songs. She thanked me for coming in and said I made her night. I told her I hoped the club would get busier so she can make some money. She said that was “so sweet”, but I told her it was just pure self interest. If she made a lot of money here she would stay, which means that she would be around next time I hit the club. That got another smile out of her. The shot girl tried to work me again, but I just told her that my last twenty was already spoken for. Ms. J took her leave shortly after. ND#2 came off stage and hit my table again. She flirted very heavy for another two songs. I told her she was working way too hard for a lousy 20. We hit the VIP and she pretty much gives me a free dance before a “new” song starts. ND#2 gives a very, very, very naughty dance. I’m almost ashamed to just give her a twenty, but that was all I had left.

Ms. J – clean dancer by MI standards – no between the thighs action - $215.00
Naughty Dancer #2 – gave it up on stage - $30.00

You know I never thought that a mongering PL like me would ever have a “good girl” as a favorite. I have to ask my brothers in blue for one small favor. If my trip reports take an ugly RIL tone you need to cyber bitch slap me – HARD. I believe I have it under control but Ms. J is …..Well……yummy!

I hope the Wings won’t need this kind of support through out the playoffs cuz my SC fund is pretty empty right now.

hockeybobby
04-11-2008, 03:32 PM
Very entertaining TR SPLUT. Thank you.
That's interesting that your fave is like your good-girl girlfriend, but you go for the big mileage with the other girls. It seems you like/respect Ms J enough not to push her boundaries, or perhaps don't want her to think you are someone who would do that.

yoda57us
04-11-2008, 05:23 PM
OK, but that is not exactly what I was asking about. I meant not need vs. fun. That's apples and oranges. I meant one kind of fun vs another kind of fun.


I don't really compare going to a club to any other kind of fun. I enjoy it so when I feel like doing it I go and have fun. When I don't feel like it I don't go. It's really that simple for me GR, I tend not to over think my base human urges.
The YMMV thing only comes into play for me if I am on the road and experimenting. Locally I have an ATF that is pretty much a sure thing in the fun department. I also have at least a dozen regulars and I can always find one working somewhere day or night shift just about any day of the week....As you can see, I don't leave much to chance...

Honestly GR there are other things I do for fun but they also involve spending money on beautiful women. It's not a case of either/or for me.

I wouldn't be so quick to discount the need vs. fun part of the equation. I make a pretty good living but responsibility comes first. If it doesn't the fun stuff is not enjoyable. If you are wealthy enough for that not to be an issue then I guess lucky you. Most of us have to make decisions.

WallyT
04-11-2008, 08:04 PM
At i_luv_dancers' request:

I was glad to see spaces in the lot. I really don't like club E when it's so crowded that I have to sit at a table instead of the bar. Sitting at the bar I am right across from the end of the stage, and dancers circling the room will walk right past me. I order a caffeinated beverage and get up to tip the dancer at the end of the stage near me. She tells me three names. Her old stripper name, she took some time off for babies, her new stripper name. Her real name. A girl-next-door name that goes with her soft brunette hair hanging past her shoulders and her milf-next-door presence. Let's call her Molly. Molly's cute, she's naked, I like her. I slide my bills in her garter and head back to my seat.

Next on stage is Slim, an old friend. For as long as I've known her Slim's hustle has been that she hasn't had sex in weeks/months/you name it. Let's go in the back so she can relieve frustration. This time she tells me she that today is my last chance to play with her old boobs. She's getting new ones tomorrow. I promise that I will.

Molly comes over to thank me for the tip. I give her some CS about her stripper name. Is it a city or a dead president or etc.? Someone else picked her name. Of course.

She asks for a dance. I tell her I'm easy, she likes that in a man. I give her a neckrub until the song starts. The pre-dance backrub is my calling card. It relaxes the dancer and makes her comfortable with my touch. Two unmemorable dances from Molly. I break. Tell her I am saving myself for Slim.

I'm not back at my bar seat two minutes before Slim comes by. Molly had sent her out of the dressing room. I ask Slim to help me tip the stage dancer. We go to the stage and she runs her finger along the crease of the dancer's thighs and tells me it's an erotic place to touch. Thanks, Slim. I like that spot myself.

Slim is terrific in the LD. When Slim's feeling good she is all confident, playful eroticism. She quivers when I run my finger along the crease of her thigh. Makes me grab her breasts. She kisses me. This is new. She starts to get up after one dance. I ask if she's through with me already. Nope, she;s trying to earn a grand in one day for her surgery. Two more dances with Slim. Then I have to leave for a meeting.

My meeting runs very short and I can return to E club before I get back on the highway. I tip several stage sets, mentally add women to my dance list. Top two are Bambi, a young blonde who looks slightly pregnant in a squeezable way, and Tina, a petite waif who tells me it is her 2nd day dancing. Newbie dances are worth a thread of their own. They're rarely good dances, but pay dividends down the road. I don't get one today, though.

Molly comes by a couple times when I am sitting at the bar, upbeat and flirtatious. Stands and dances between my open legs, wanders off, comes back. I have a couple dances from Aja, who's cut her hair short and is wearing glasses. Sexy secretary, I tell her. She tells me she hears too much secretary, librarian, schoolteacher. She's growing her hair back out. Aja's dances are restrained and competent. She pulls up my shirt and sucks my nipples. More importantly, she laughs at my jokes. I go back to the bar and scan the club for Bambi or Tina. No luck.

Molly wanders back just as the DJ announces a lineup for all available dancers. What the hell. Can I make you unavailable, I ask? We go off to the LD. The song begins before I can rub her back.

This afternoon's music at club E is classic rock, every third song or so blues. Blues! There's no better LD music. Molly invites my hands to roam, and soon her nipples are stiff. The first couple songs are standard LD rotation, face me, face away, snap her thong, lean back RCG, kneel down.

Somewhere in the second song she starts to kiss me. Pulls her thong aside for a few flashes and brushes. My hand wanders south and early in the third song I find the princess's pea. She grinds on my hand and crotch for awhile, outside her thong. Then shifts. I press down on her mons, she grinds on my crotch. Molly faces me for the next 2 songs without getting up. She kisses me, with more and more intensity. It's a full-on makeout session. Molly puts her hand behind my back and leans forward, brushing her hair across my face. Kisses my neck. My hand doesn't leave her mons. We grind through the break after song 3. She moans lightly a couple times. Once or twice she seems troubled by the loss of control, but relaxes back into our session. Doesn't say much, though she whispers a couple times "I'm going to have to change my thong."

At one point in the fourth song she leans back. I look at her face and she is gone in sensation. She grabs my arm with a free hand, squeezes hard. Harder. Leans back. She relaxes and her breathing slows. She kisses me. Squeezes me. Leans against me and whispers. Thank you.

Molly stands up wobbly after the song. Says, I'm very sensitive. Still not sure of my good luck, I run a hand lightly down her side. She spasms. Yup.

I live for this.

WallyT

hockeybobby
04-11-2008, 08:21 PM
Good work on the report. Give you the benefit of the doubt on the O. Sounds like you had fun...that's the main thing for sure.

WallyT
04-11-2008, 08:26 PM
Yeah, I had fun. And if she didn't she got awfully disheveled for a few bucks. ;D

I_luv_dancers!
04-11-2008, 08:43 PM
Nice one, Wally. You are a gifted TR poster. Thanks.

Looks like you found either a very gifted actress eager to please, or a genuinely orgasmic stripper. Either way, that's one in the win column.

I've noticed that some of the girls in pink admit getting off from giving lapdances, but for most of them it's either politically incorrect and they won't admit to it on SW, or they just don't get off in the club.

azdd
04-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Blues! There's no better LD music.

Absofreakinlutely true! If I could find a SC that played blues exclusively, I would be buying LDs non-stop. A great 12 bar vibe with the right dancer is just like going around the world, over and over and over until the song is done. There are too many songs to pick a fave, but driving to work this morning I had on Clapton's live version of "Have You Ever Loved a Woman", and all I could think of was what an incredible LD soundtrack that song would be!

Oh, and BTW great trip report, thanks!

WallyT
04-12-2008, 05:39 AM
I had on Clapton's live version of "Have You Ever Loved a Woman", and all I could think of was what an incredible LD soundtrack that song would be!

The 8 minute version? Yup, I'd pay extra for that! :thumbsup:

lestat1
04-12-2008, 11:45 AM
Damn Wally; full-on makeout session! I'm jealous.

lestat1
04-12-2008, 11:46 AM
I have to ask my brothers in blue for one small favor. If my trip reports take an ugly RIL tone you need to cyber bitch slap me – HARD. I believe I have it under control but Ms. J is …..Well……yummy!

You're no worse than my own TRs about my favorite, Miss E. :P

Golden_Rule
04-13-2008, 03:47 PM
Honestly GR there are other things I do for fun but they also involve spending money on beautiful women. It's not a case of either/or for me.

I do a lot of things for fun too. Very few of them involve spending money on beautiful women. I just do that to round out everything else.

Like I think I said earlier. I view the whole dancer/escort thing as a condiment to add a little flavor to an already tasty plate that wouldn't be there without it.

Just saying.


I wouldn't be so quick to discount the need vs. fun part of the equation. I make a pretty good living but responsibility comes first. If it doesn't the fun stuff is not enjoyable. If you are wealthy enough for that not to be an issue then I guess lucky you. Most of us have to make decisions.

That is precisely what I am talking about though. Making decisions.

I'm not wealthy but I am well off. With my pensions, annuities and investments I've sort of turned my early retirement into a mini-trust fund baby sort of thing where I get a pay out on a regular basis. In situations where I can afford both I've worked too hard for my dollar not to respect it. So if I have a two options before me, even if both are doable, I can't help but weigh them on my internal scale.

The real capper for me is if the two have a difference of "repeatablity". So, $4000 for a weekend of sex with a pretty woman has to have the potential to be pretty damn remarkable if its in contention with say, 50 yard line Superbowl tickets. Even if I can afford both. [Unless its taking the PYT to the Superbowl weekend and having sex before, during and after the game for $8000 ]

Probably a bad example. :)

Like I said, It's not your way vs. my way I'm talking about. I'm just saying how I work. Not suggesting anyone else should work the same way.

When it comes to matter like this, for me, they have to cut the mustard on the "what else could I be doing with this money" meter [like you said, making decisions]. If it does, and often it does, I go for it.

yoda57us
04-13-2008, 04:01 PM
Well, I don't think your examples are bad. We all have to make these decisions and we make them based on our own set of priorities. My point from the beginning was that I never have those "what else could I be doing with this money" moments when I am spending the money, or after. I decide before I go to a club or book a play date (some of which do also include weekend getaways btw) that the money is there to be spent for my enjoyment. I actually consider it as my entertainment budget.

It's also worth noting that my priorities change based on who I am involved with in the P4P realm. Right now I have a couple of regular gals that give me incredible ROI and are fun to be with. Dinner and three or four hours of adult oriented entertainment costs me about what I would spend in a club an a good visit with a favorite lady. I visit clubs less when the P4P force is strong....

SPLUT
04-14-2008, 10:09 AM
Hockeybobby, I would love it if my fav was a dirrrty girl, but I never got that vibe. I like to believe that I'm pretty intuitive on what a dancer will allow and I always respect her boundaries. Ms. J didn't do any of the standard vag moves that the naughty dancers do so I adjusted to her style.

hockeybobby
04-23-2008, 08:50 AM
I'm a Strip Club Junkie. Admitting it is the first step I hear, so...done.

Went to two different SC yesterday, in two different cities no less. I don't even know what happened in the hockey playoffs for the last 24 hours, though I have the highlights on now as I write this.

I hadn't seen my favourite dancer in almost 3 weeks, as she had taken a trip up north for a change, and to make some serious money for some upcoming bills. She got home on the weekend, and her first day back on the job in her home club was yesterday. She had sent me a couple of letters while she was there, so my anticipation level was off the charts.

I used a couple of hours of vacation time so I could take a nice long unhurried lunch. Arrived at the club a little after noon, took my spot at the bar, my buddy handed me an MGD with a lime in it, and we caught up a bit on things while I waited for the girl.

Out of the dressing room she came, in a new hot pink 2 piece lacy, barely there outfit. *the sound of air being sucked into lungs through pursed lips*

We went outside for a while to enjoy the sun, and catch up on everything. Back inside for our meals which were now ready, and once we were done with that, it was time for her stage show.

I took her directly into the back room when she got off the stage. She's such a sweetie, she insisted on putting her outfit back on so I could watch her take it off again...she knows how much I love that.

The only thing I'll say about the dances was that there was a much greater...what's the word? Urgency? Passion? I'm not sure how to describe it, but it was mind-blowing. She missed me, and I missed her, and we both demonstrated that in actions and words.

I left the club at 3, and wandered back to the office in a fog. In a couple of hours I'd be leaving work and heading out for Toronto...the big smoke...T.O. for a bonus SC visit...to meet Cally.

Chili Palmer
04-23-2008, 10:02 AM
Thank you for a relevant post. Looking forward to your TR with Cally.

CP

hockeybobby
04-23-2008, 10:26 AM
Heading down the QEW for Toronto, got a fat wallet, and a box of my maple syrup in the trunk. I figure leaving the office at 5, with the rush-hour traffic, I'll probably get to the strip club around 6:30. Time to settle in, grab a beer, check the place out, and get comfortable before Cally does her show at 7pm. She had let me know in advance when her shows were scheduled (as far as she knew), and after her 7pm show, she had 3 hours till her next one, which would give us lots of time to visit in between. I usually get tuckered out early as my usual wake up for work is at 5:30am.

As I walked in the door, I asked the bouncer when she would be up for her first show...he said she just finished. Damn. It was 6pm. Oh well. Grab a beer at the bar, and set a little maple leaf shaped bottle of maple syrup on the bar as an obvious calling card so she can recognize me. I don't see anyone resembling her pictures in the club after a quick walk-about, so I lean over to a dancer at the bar and ask her what an appropriate tip would be to give the waitress to go find a girl for me. She says, don't worry about that, I'll go find her. I say tell her bobby's at the bar.

Ten minutes later a girl walks up to me wearing a beautiful sexy gown and a smile on her face. "You'd be Cally I presume?" "I'm Ashley here" chuckles. "I'm the hockeybobby, but you can call me *** ".

What followed was a very pleasant chat at the bar. Of course we knew a little about each other from SW, so we talked some about that sort of thing, and the regular kind of stripper/customer chat. Cally made me feel relaxed and welcome.

I had brought some maple stuff for Cally, and also for another SW member in the area, which Cally had graciously agreed beforehand to deliver to her friend. Just for a hoot, she texted her friend to see if she wanted to come by for a visit, but she took a pass on that. Understandable.

Cally told me she doesn't do lap dances much anymore, other than for the odd regular in Ontario, and never out west where the business is done differently. So I felt privelged when she said she'd be happy to take me back to VIP for some private dances. How the VIP deal worked in this club was: you pay ten bucks, they stamp your hand with a blacklight visible image and you can come and go to the VIP all night. Dances are $20 in VIP or $10 in another area of the floor which wasn't as private. $10 dances are supposed to be non-contact.

The VIP area was upstairs and away from the floor. There were no windows, and it was much quieter. There were no other people there, it was comfortable, and nicely decorated with comfy loveseats and a fireplace. I settled in and relaxed, and was treated to the sight of the lovely Cally removing her pretty gown slowly, and sexily.

I won't give the details of the dances here...Cally can NATO that if she wishes, but I can say with all sincerity that she knows what's she's doing when it comes to a lap dance...she's a pro...and I was a gentleman.

When we were done, Cally needed to start getting ready for her next show, so she excused herself, and I sauntered over to another dancer, whom I had tipped on stage while chatting with Cally. A little chit-chat, a little tip, and I have pleasant company arranged for watching Cally's show.

She does quite the entertaining performance you know. Lots of stuff happening...cool pole tricks, I mean very cool. And she did a friggin' fire show too man. Eating fire, lighting herself on fire on a bunch of different spots, even, would you believe, her kitty? Wild. Clearly she loves what shee does, and puts a lot into it. Raucous applause.

We saw a bit of each other for the next couple of hours. She was engaged in conversation with someone about an upcoming video shoot (I think), and I amused myself with a very interesting girl, about whom I may do a TR down the road.

After popping my head in the DJ booth for a goodbye and a hug from Cally, I headed out the door of the club at 1am...my wallet empty, (6 bucks in change in my coat pocket which I spent on a snack and a bottle of water at the Mickie D's stop on highway 401...) Cambridge bound.

Thanks Cally. You're a good sport.