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Chili Palmer
07-14-2007, 01:44 PM
Pink Cabaret is located in Glendale, a suburb in northwest Phoenix, which pretty much means that you have to want to get here to be here. This puts it at a competitive disadvantage with the more established clubs like Hi-Liter, Bourbon Street, Christy's et al, all of which are located in reasonable proximity to places near where people work. There's gonna be very little, "Oops, I happened to be in the neighborhood, why not stop in for a few laps?" kinda foot traffic. As for locals, well, there's a reason they live on the west side, and not the east: cuz they can't afford to move.
Arrived at the club on a Thursday a few weeks back, after visiting Centerfolds. Got to the club around 9:30, and was pleasantly surprised to find the front parking area full, except for one spot right up front, which I snagged. A few people were grabbing a smoke outside (a much more common occurence in Phoenix now, thankfully) as I walked in. The gal at the front told me that cover as $10, plus I had to pre-pay $6 for my first drink. Both are very steep prices for PHX-based clubs. If you're gonna charge that kind of dough, you'd better be worth it.
As I walked in, the club's interior seemed smaller than one would expect, but still qualified as a midsized club for this area (prolly twice the size as Hi-Liter, to give some sense of scale). There is a small, semi-circle stage in front with one pole that does not go all the way to the ceiling--now THERE'S an OSHA accident investigation I'd love to see on The Drudge Report. There are four leather booths along the east wall, with 20 or so small tables scattered throughout the floor. The bar is along the west wall, adjoining what appears to a topless couch lap area. Lots of mirrors everywhere to give the club the illusion of being bigger than it is. Upstairs, the east alcove is completely empty and apparently sealed off--just an absolute waste of valuable square footage. There are 18 (!) private rooms upstairs (more on these later).
This club seems to have taken the "Skin" route, meaning it is counting on having a sound system that most definitely goes to 11, along with a number of plasma TVs (3 flanking the stage, plus another larger one facing the stage on the north wall, all of which play either the music video accompanying the song, or, in a nice touch borrowed from the Deja vu chain, shows pictures of the dancers currently working there. However, this tactic cuts both ways, as, with the surprising exception of Bourbon Street refugee Priya Ray, none of the girls seemed particularly noteworthy. In point of fact, the hottest girl in the club was the bartender, which is never a good sign for a club full of strippers.
Of course, when I said "club full of strippers" I really meant 8-10 of them. But, hey, they did outnumber the custys about 4-to-1 while I was there. All those cars out front? Staff, apparently, which from a dancer's perspective means lots and lots of tipouts from a bank that seems nonexistent. While I was there, I saw one dancer give a custy two laps on the couches, which were closely monitored by a floater, making sure the custy didn't enjoy himself too much (and thus, making sure the dancer didn't sell many dances). Onstage, dancers do two song sets here, stripping down to topless on the second song. No stage tipping while I was there. I saw one semi-hot dancer named Allie, who was wearing black kneesocks and had me somewhat interested, but her morose attitude was a complete downer when she moseyed by my booth. When one dancer planted herself at my booth and I didn't immediately shoo her away, the waitress scurried over to give me the lowdown on the private rooms, which are Pink's raison d'etre. Rooms start at $140 for a half hour. The girl is nude, but there is no sexual contact (waitress' words, not mine), and then they escalate up to $280 (with an implied but not spoken understanding that contact *could* happen if you spend more.
FYI, as with most clubs like this, that is the room fee. The dancer's "tip" is extra, and you could expect to shell out $200-$250 more before a dancer will even get near you. What raised my concern was the dancer I sat with, who, during the course of my convo with her, mentioned she used to work at Dream Palace in Tempe, where this kind of bait & switch practice is common. She also told me that the club will never get its liquor license so long as they have the private rooms, so don't expect to be downing any brews here soon.
Pink's, to me, is another good idea gone bad. The club took forever to open, failing to generate clientele before the summer offseason started. Management has yet to even update their website to let people know they're open, nor have they ever followed through on their mailing list. They stopped giving away VIP Free Admission cards to those few custys who did venture in here, which tells me that they are desperate for the cover charges to pay for the lease and other hard costs they aren't making in room fees. Cover on the weekends is even more expensive, going up to $16 + $6, making it the most expensive club in the Valley.
To sum up, you have a club that is off the beaten path, overpriced, understaffed (talent wise) and offering a service they have no plans to actually provide. I'm guessing they're trying to make it through to the next Cardinal's season, hoping to drive custys here after the games. But if their business plan means Sunday is supposed to be their busiest day of the week, then they are also going to have to find strippers who will work it, which, especially in this town, is nearly impossible. Pink's, we hardly knew ye.
CP
Next up: Hangin' at Babylon's.
Richard_Head
07-14-2007, 02:18 PM
Thanks CP, you saved me a trip to the west side. I detest those type of clip joints. Perhaps they will have things straightened out by the time the Super Bowl hits town.
What pics are you all talking about? I'm so curious! Check Playtime or the back of New Times, both have had pictures recently.
ExoticEngineer
07-14-2007, 02:55 PM
Thank you! ;D
Chili Palmer
07-14-2007, 10:52 PM
When azdd posted about Babylon last week, he piqued my curiosity, particularly since he indicated how crowded the place was. Finding a good nude club to go to has been impossible since I moved to Phoenix, so Babylon might get a chunk o'CP's wallet if it panned out.
To get here, most people will approach from the east on Van Buren, and when they see the gaudy neon they will think the club is just ahead. But nope, it's just Bill Johnson's Big Apple, a kitschy family-owned chain of restaurants whose main claim to fame is having their waitresses wear real Colt 45 revolvers on their hips (thankfully, with the firing pins removed). I've been told more than one waitress has gotten injured over the years from carrying an extra 12 pound weight on one side of her body, but that's a small price to pay for a steak in this town. We are Phoenicians, and we laugh at your ungainly stride.
A block down is the more sedately lit Babylon. Plenty of parking in front, newly paved. Looks good from the outside, except for some pieces of painted plywood leaning against the wall near the entrance. Two women (please, oh, please tell me they're not dancers) are smoking, and stop to say hello. I walk in, looking to pay the cover. Oh no, no cover here (it's about 8 PM), please feel free to take a seat and thanks for coming in. I walk inside and instantly feel like Steve Martin in The Lonely Guy ("Can you ask the maitre'd to kill the spotlight?"). I am the only custy on the floor.
Before I continue, here's a rundown of the club's floorplan. Unlike Pink Cabaret, Babylon's is a very spacious club, appropriately dark. There is a large T-shaped stage with three poles on it, with an arched doorway in the middle and short staircases on either side for dancer entrances and egresses. Both flanks of the club are slightly elevated, with the eastside holding 4 circular booths and the west the club's lone pool table and about 7-10 Barcaloungers. Yes, I said Barca-fucken-loungers. I sat in a row of Barcaloungers right below the east side booths and could have easily taken a nap here, music be damned. Tables, no more than 12-15, are scattered along the floor, and, in a nice touch are lit along the side edges, as is the bar, which is in the rear of the club. Two large TVs (not plasma) are above the bars, playing the now de riguer music videos (mostly Marilyn Manson, which, if you've seen the video for Freak Show, can be kind of offputting for someone who considers himself heterosexual. But I digress. There's also tinsel dangling from the light fixtures (Hanging Gardens, people). Carpet is looks like it was purchased wholesale from the Chicago Bulls' website, but it, along with everything else inside was immaculate.
The staffer who greeted me at the door came by and asked me what I wanted for a drink, and apologized for having no girls onstage or on the floor. He explained it was a shift change and they'd get some dancers out shortly. My Coke was just $3.25 here, and when I gave him a $20 and told him to give me $15 in change, he was genuinely grateful for the tip. After nearly 30 minutes of sitting and sipping, my reverie was finally broken by an annoying, even by Phoenix's standards, DJ, sounding like a non-ironic version of Cheech & Chong's skit. Sigh. Finally, a dancer comes onstage. Sadly, it's exactly what I expected: peroxide hair, pasty skin, small, flabby B-cups, no waist-to-hip ratio to speak of. When she takes off her panties in the second song, I go up to the stage to tip her just because I feel sorry for her. When she comes offstage, she walks over to me, sits down for a moment, asks me if I want a dance, and I tell her no thanks. She promptly disappears into the dressing room. Dancer #2 comes out, pretty much a carbon copy of #1, except she violates Strip Club Immuteable Law #1, which is: You strip according to the club you are at. This is a nude club: the panties go off at some point, or else go dance at a topless club. If you don't want to show your tits, then dance at a bikini bar. I understand not wanting to show the cooch; in fact, later that night at BSC I discussed this with a couple of the higher mileage dancers there, both of whom agreed they'd never do that in public, but have had no problem in the past with mutual reach-ins.
Anyway, another couple finally enters the joint, and when the third dancer hits the stage, I make for the exit. I get a pleasant "good night, sir" from the staffer, and head over to BSC, where, I find out, trouble's abrewing. Bottom line on Babylon: I really, really like the Barcaloungers. I've never been more comfy in a club in my life. The staff was as helpful as any I've experienced, and the club looks great. They just need more dancers and more custys to attract the dancers (or is it dancers to attract the custys?). I've said it before and I'll say it again: Most SC regulars could not (in general) give a rat's ass about ambience. If a dancer is there they want to lap, they'll do it on a bed of nails, if necessary.
I'll probably give this club another shot after their official grand opening in September, when hopefully more gals will be in place. We'll see, but at least their heart appears to be in the right place.
CP
doc-catfish
07-15-2007, 06:52 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Most SC regulars could not (in general) give a rat's ass about ambience. If a dancer is there they want to lap, they'll do it on a bed of nails, if necessary.
Word. :thumbsup:
I just wish that would get through to some of these SC owners who spend thousands, sometimes a cool million on decor, then end up scratching their heads when they have a club filled with nice furniture, but devoid of customers (and often dancers as well).
Richard_Head
07-15-2007, 01:43 PM
...and head over to BSC, where, I find out, trouble's abrewing. What's that about???
Chili Palmer
07-15-2007, 03:28 PM
What's that about???
Well, my disaffection for BSC started about 6-8 weeks ago. I remember reading the 4-5 concurrent threads on the pink side that focused on Phoenix and how poor a town it is in the summertime, then heading over to BSC and, to a lesser extent, Hi-Liter, to watch the definition of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Girls taking extended vacations and/or working fewer shifts/hours, but mostly just girls working but not on the floor. It got so bad at BSC that a waitress once saw me at BSC doing absolutely nothing, recognized me as someone who is always buying laps at that place, and promised me she'd get more girls out on the floor. Didn't happen, and I hadn't returned again until this week.
Saw one of my top five there for the first time in 4-5 months. This is a girl who does not shy away from contact, either giving or receiving. Very affectionate. Now, she was scared to death just to sit on my lap as we chatted. We went over to VIP and I proceeded to receive some of the worst laps ever from her or anyone else there, for that matter. It was like watching RP McMurphy after the lobotomy; she was fortunate I didn't have a pillow with me. Not her fault: the VIP Mom was literally stalking the floor area, making sure no one was getting any satisfaction. Apparently, if you get the dreaded "shoulder tap", that meant you were grinding too much and/or worse, and your next stop was the office. Three girls were randomly fired last week just to shake things up, and there are a ton of new girls there now.
When I found a second "old-timer" there, she, too, confirmed the first one's story. Lap was only slightly upgraded, but nowhere near what I was used to from either of them.
It makes little sense for BSC management to behave this way. Mileage was already way down since November, and to kill the earnings of some of your star performers, particularly in the summertime, is just ridiculous. I saw no champagne rooms being sold at all, and that just doesn't happen. But when the girls the guys want to fucko cease being themselves, then no one is gonna spend those additional bucks for less bang than a soaked cap pistol.
It makes me almost afraid to post some of my VIP experiences at Centerfolds, which couldn't be more different than those at BSC. Hence the reason they get the highest amount of my in-club spending now.
CP
Richard_Head
07-15-2007, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the info CP, I've had many of the same issues with BSC for quite some time now, I haven't been stopping in nearly as much as I used to.
It makes me almost afraid to post some of my VIP experiences at Centerfolds, which couldn't be more different than those at BSC. Hence the reason they get the highest amount of my in-club spending now.
CP
I do often wonder if management of clubs read some of the stuff posted here, on stripclublist, tuscl, aspd, or anywhere else online, and whether they believe any of it and act on it in the form of stricter club management. Given their prime directive to make money for the club, it seems to me they have an impossible balancing act between maintaining the appearance of total Disneyesque compliance for their neighborhood or LE image, while at the same time making custys think they should come to their club because the girls are hotter, and there's at least a chance of a little more "special" experience there. Success at one goal usually leads to the other biting em in the ass!
beautifulxxdisaster
07-16-2007, 01:28 AM
[quote=Lyssa Lynn;1140848]It's nude/ no alcohol right? Thanks but I'll keep my kitty covered and clean and keep on enjoying my champagne! Place did look pretty in the pics though. [quote]
so you perfer keeping your kitty 'covered and clean' um i don't exactly know what your implying - plz clarify, because to me it sounds like your saying girls that dance nude have dirty pussies!There is Nothing wrong w/ mine, and i guess that is why i dance NUDE- I'm not trying to hide ne thing under my panties:smiley_en;)
Lyssa Lynn
07-17-2007, 07:48 AM
Whoa..I in no way meant imply that anyone had a "dirty pussy"! It is my personal preferance to keep covered down there (not to hide but to protect). Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you.
beautifulxxdisaster
07-20-2007, 02:24 AM
O sry 4 bitching <3
Chili Palmer
07-30-2007, 07:01 PM
Man. Oh wow. Thank you jeebus. Wow.
Sundays in Phoenix strip clubs: a hit or miss affair at best, mostly miss. But...I've also found some real gems on Sundays. Girls who don't want the competition or the crowds of the weekdays/weekend nights, and just want some decent cash. These often turn out to be great OTC candidates, too; easy cash and just one dude (me) to deal with.
Discovered a nice little 9 hole golf course in Tempe. Perfect to try out my new driver. Pounded a couple hundred range balls, did a quick 18 and found myself with some time left in my afternoon. On muscle memory alone, my car drove to HL, as they are the only club you know is gonna be open and have more than 3 girls on shift. The usual suspects: Ariel, Mystery, Misty, etc. Smokin' hot Kennedy, too, but she spent more time in the dressing room than on the floor. Got a few laps from a MILFy blonde with C-cup bolt-ons and phenomenal nipples. No feeding, but some Stevie Wonder, good stick shifting and grinding, but mostly great nails. How does a dancer keep someone like me interested w/o giving up a lot of mileage? It's really quite easy: she uses her nails on my chest and stomach. I'm surprised more dancers don't use this technique: it's like getting great mileage w/o actually having to touch the naughty bits. She got me for six songs when I figured she'd get two, tops.
As Kennedy was in the middle of fucko central with another custy, I bounced out and headed for my new home away from home. Made it in, saw a pretty damn good dancer onstage and a few others scattered throughout the club. I found my "magic chair," looked down the row and BAM! Thunderbolt central. Brunette, slender but curvy, a bit too tatted for my tastes, but my, oh, my, what a chest. Triple D's, easy. She's sitting on the lap of a custy waiting for the next song to start. As far as I am concerned, there is no one else in the club at this point. I will have this woman.
Fortunately for everyone concerned, the dude was one and done. She collected her 10 spot, put her top back on (dammit!) and walked towards me. She was about to ask a dude right in front of me, thought better of it and came to me. "Want a dance?" As suavely as I could muster, I responded, "BNXGldfgnlkdritipo." Must have sounded like yes to her, so she started in on me. Good, nice moves, lotsa Stevies, now she's moving to floorwork. Uses the twins to sandwich me, then brings her arms down my chest to my pants. Moment of truth. While no one in Phoenix expects high mileage activity on the floor (in general), there are tells that dancers have that will let you know they may just up the ante in the VIP area. One of them is the "accidental" rub of the crotch. If they make a point to avoid Mr. Happy completely, either going north or south, they'll probably do the same in VIP. No reason to upgrade. However, if they touch him at all, they may just do more in VIP.
The song ends. "Wanna go to the VIP now?" "opsdofirrt,yn,ckktt," I said, grabbing my drink and Treo. VIP is semi-busy (3 other couples), but we get the premium seat. She hops on and I am in heaven. Boobs, boobs, everywhere, but not yet in my mouth. Lots of major two handed activity. This is getting even better. Thirds song starts up, she straddles me cowgirl and the twins are making their way to me. Another moment of truth: will there be feeding, just Stevie Wonders? To paraphrase Ten Bears, "Let it be feeding," and there was much rejoicing. This went on for 12 songs in toto, before she finally KMSO'd. I actually sorta lost count, and afterwards I asked her how many, and she said 12. "Did that include the first one?" "Oh, don't worry about that one." Talk about a keeper. I paid her (including the first one and a tip), she thanked me for making her day (nice SS) and we went our separate ways.
As Moses once said, I will dwell here. I am content.
CP
SportsWriter2
07-30-2007, 07:19 PM
As I recall, Bridgette called bullsh*t on AZ and plans to dance elsewhere. I forgot where, maybe MT.
Chili Palmer
07-30-2007, 07:39 PM
As I recall, Bridgette called bullsh*t on AZ and plans to dance elsewhere. I forgot where, maybe MT.
Yep, it was tough pinning her down when she returned to Phoenix, so we never did get back together. But it speaks to what I talked about in an earlier post re: self-fulfilling prophecies. She insists longly and loudly that business is in the crapper here; at HL, CF and Bombshells, the places were 70-80% to capacity when I was in them. BSC, too. Only the new clubs w/o established clientele sucked ass. Ya gotta work harder to get guys into VIP, and the tolerance for rip-offs is now nil, but even yesterday at HL, with a C+ lineup of talent, all the seats along the wall were taken by 2:30 PM and laps were aplenty. I believe the term for it is "selective input," choosing only to acknowledge those "facts" that dovetail with their beliefs and ignoring those that fly in the face of them.
CP
UtahMike
08-02-2007, 10:32 PM
Bridgette has a post on SCL that she will be at Buffalo Station in Gallatin Gateway MT from August 3 to 30. 356 miles from here, about $75 in gas to get there and back. It's a tempting thought.
Richard_Head
08-25-2007, 12:03 PM
Time to bump the AZ thread ;D.
Looks like Tempe will be getting it's first strip club, the ELITE CABARET (http://www.azcentral.com/business/articles/0824tr-cabaret0825.html) which will be located at McClintock & the 202. I like the location, it borders Tempe, Scottsdale and Mesa, it's close to ASU, close to the 101 & 202, close to Tempe Marketplace. Only problem, it's much too close to my home, that could cause me problems ;).
There were also a couple of shootings, one at VEGAS CABARET (http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/KTVKLNews20070823_strip-club-shooting.6113b921.html), one at the Blue Moon, I don't have a link to that one but saw a story on it on the news, apparently the owner shot some guy who was threatening him. I'm really starting to appreciate the metal detection wands some clubs use.
ExoticEngineer
08-25-2007, 12:23 PM
Wow, jsut read the article, they're in for a tough battle....great location though with all of the bars and such that will be opening in that area.
Any thoughts to wether they'll be able to do it or not?
Richard_Head
08-25-2007, 01:03 PM
Wow, jsut read the article, they're in for a tough battle....great location though with all of the bars and such that will be opening in that area.
Any thoughts to wether they'll be able to do it or not?Here's another story, from the EAST VALLEY TRIBUNE (http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/95844), it looks like there good to open at this point.
Taco Goblin
08-27-2007, 10:23 PM
When I first read RH's post, I was like.. waaait, isn't there already a Tempe club? Specifically Christies's Tempe?
But then I read the comments on the actual article and turns out Christies is in a Guadalupe zoning island. Interesting. Wonder why they don't call it Christies Cabaret Guadalupe.. hmmm
Is this new joint going to have go through the usual no liquor license hoops for the first three months?
ExoticEngineer
08-28-2007, 10:56 AM
Probably.....which is why I'll hang out and see waht happens there. I'd love it if it actually worked for them. But my fear would be all the bs they have to put up with just to open, and once they are open...what then? Will they try to close them down, harrass them, etc?
I'd love to work that location...but not so sure about the trouble it's worth.
PinkLove
09-12-2007, 05:55 PM
So, is Christie's in Tempe (Baseline) open? If so, is it 21+ (topless) or 18+ (nude)?? Also, does anyone know how packed it's in there on Thur.-Sat.? Ditto with Christie's in Phoenix? How busy it through Thu-Sat? And are they both still a gown club or can the girls wear skirts/booty shirts now? Thanks. :)
Richard_Head
09-12-2007, 08:18 PM
So, is Christie's in Tempe (Baseline) open? If so, is it 21+ (topless) or 18+ (nude)?? Also, does anyone know how packed it's in there on Thur.-Sat.? Ditto with Christie's in Phoenix? How busy it through Thu-Sat? And are they both still a gown club or can the girls wear skirts/booty shirts now? Thanks. :)Christie's in Tempe is open, it's topless, I don't know how packed it gets. Same with Christie's in Phoenix, it's open, it's topless, business is sporadic whenever I'm there, sometimes very busy, sometimes not so busy. I think they require gowns on stage only now, but I could be wrong. There are a few girls on the pink side who dance there you may want to post over there too.
ExoticEngineer
09-12-2007, 08:58 PM
Sitting on the pink side, ready to give info...... ;D
PinkLove
09-12-2007, 09:18 PM
Thanks for the info!! I read that you said Bourbon is a lot more strict now? Is it still like that? And what are the new rules?
ExoticEngineer
09-12-2007, 09:20 PM
Pink, you might want to go to the pink side and ask these questions since as dacners we know the rules in and out, but the male customers merely get to enjoy us there.
Just an idea. There are many many threads on the pink side about the clubs in Az, Christies phx and tempe, bourbon, bombshells, hiliter, etc.....
PinkLove
09-12-2007, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the info! I posted under Club Chat on the pink side. :)
beautifulxxdisaster
09-19-2007, 10:32 PM
Anyone heard ne news on Elite Caberate???!!
Richard_Head
09-30-2007, 02:38 PM
Anyone heard ne news on Elite Caberate???!!I haven't heard a thing, I'll take that as good news.
Richard_Head
09-30-2007, 02:41 PM
It's that time of year again, time for the New Times BEST OF PHOENIX (http://phoenixnewtimes.com/bestof/award.php?award=553901) issue. They seem to usually sell their choice for best strip club to the highest bidder, how else do you explain The Pin-Up Girl Lounge or what was then the Penthouse Club winning in the past. This year they appear to have it right, they picked the HI-LITER (http://www.hiliterclubaz.com/index2.php) and I wholeheartedly agree, IMO the Hi-Liter is the best club in town, it's laid back, the girls are attractive & plentiful, the dances are good, the drink prices are reasonable, it is very rare that I will leave this place not having had a good time.
This year they appear to have it right, they picked the HI-LITER (http://www.hiliterclubaz.com/index2.php) and I wholeheartedly agree, IMO the Hi-Liter is the best club in town, it's laid back, the girls are attractive & plentiful, the dances are good, the drink prices are reasonable, it is very rare that I will leave this place not having had a good time.
Well I also think those "Best of" lists are pretty meaningless, but I have to agree that the HL is pretty damn good. I almost always enjoy my visits there, the ATF is there, and the experience is pretty consistent (and consistently pretty;D ) It was Hi-time (pun...) that they finally put together a decent club website. The photos of Hailey are just awesome, and she's one of the many reasons their dayshift is so much damn fun!
Of course, the "list" doesn't make any distinction between best dayshift, best night shift, and/or best overall. For dayshift, I gotta go with the HL, but I would give Christie's-Phoenix a close second. I have very limited experience with nightshift, but would have to go with Centerfolds, based in large part on my nocturnal visit there last week. IMHO CFs still has the best VIP setup that I've seen in Phoenix, and a tremendous house full of lovely and enthusiastic sofa partners!
Well since RH posted the latest "best of" from the New Times for Phoenix, I suppose I should also report that the Tucson Weekly just published its "best of" issue, and has awarded the title of best gentlemen's club to Curves Cabaret. I don't got to Tucson clubs too often (gotta stay under the radar...), but I don't disagree with this designation for Curves. It is a very nice, friendly club in much the same way as the Hi-Liter in Phoenix. For those conspiracy theorists out there, it is worth noting that Curves and the Hi-Liter are both owned by the same group, and they both won "best of" in their respective cities. :O
Here's what the Tucson Weekly had to say:
http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Best/Content?section=oid%3A41682&year=2007
Curves Cabaret
2130 N. Oracle Road, 884-7210, www.curvescabaret.com (http://www.curvescabaret.com/)
The girls at Curves are pretty. We mean, really pretty. In addition to that, the staff is unbelievably professional; it's disarming when you go into a strip club and the bouncer is, well, just a really nice guy. Going out for the night doesn't mean having to go through airport-like security, either. A host helps you and your friends find seats and settle in. It's safe and clean. It's swank and comfy. But that's not the best part of the black-light world that is Curves Cabaret: There are the girls. Did we mention that they're pretty?
Runners up:
2. TD's Showclub, 749 W. Miracle Mile Road, 882-0650; 5822 E. Speedway Blvd., 790-7307 3. Ten's Showclub, 5120 E. Speedway Blvd., 325-8367, www.myspace.com/tensshowclub (http://www.myspace.com/tensshowclub)
Chili Palmer
10-28-2007, 07:36 PM
Friday night. I'd finished with my main club (read: no one else there to lap) and so I ventured back to my former mainstay, BSC. Hadn't been here in months; between the retirement/moving on of some of my faves, and the taming of the ones who were left, there just didn't seem to be a point of coming here on a regular basis anymore.
When I arrive, the parking lot is full and, HORRORS!, one of those private bachelor party busses is parked out front. I actually have to wait in line for about five minutes before being allowed to pay my cover and move inside, where I fortunately nab a table by the back bar. A cocktail napkin has been placed here, so waitresses studiously avoid me, thinking someone else has already taken my drink order (this is not a bad thing).
Looking around, the club is hopping. At least, most of the club is. The VIP area is conspicuous by its lack of seats filled, something that would have been unthinkable 6 months earlier. A good tip to me that the mileage situation has not improved. I resolve to not waste money in the back room. We'll see if I crumble in my resolution. (Champagne Room is still busy, as evidenced by the number of smoking hot girls changing into "gowns" and hustling over to it, as well as the DJ announcing "So and so to the CR." But, the CRs have never been about the mileage, just the whole "it's so much more private, so you'll end up spending $500 and just talking to me for an hour or so." That is most definitely not how I roll, so just basic laps it is to be.
Of course, that would entail actually having a dancer deign to stop at my table, or even make eye contact with me. On a busy Friday night at BSC, if you're alone, you get up from your table, and there's a good probability you'll lose it when you return, to group of 2-3 rowdy drunk 20-somethings. As dancer after dancer passes me by (I am wearing black dress slacks, a nice dress shirt and Italian loafers, so no excuse there), I spot an absolutely perfect 10 dancing for a dude across the aisle from me. Tall (at least 5'9", multi-ethnic (black/asian mix, I believe), perfectly toned and tanned and sporting a set of DDs that would make a dead man drool. She finishes with the dude and I manage to get her attention and she walks over to me. Her name is Foxy. I tell her that's original, and she agrees, saying that way everyone knows it's a BS dancer name and then she tells the PLs her real name. I tell her I won't ask, but I would like some laps. Fairly typical BSC floor laps: light one way contact, but her legs are so long they have difficulty fitting in the area we are in. Normally, this would be my cue to reccomend going to VIP, but I AM A ROCK, and I stay strong. We end up doing six songs, I pay her, and wonder what might have been six months ago. Sigh. Over the next hour, I manage to get two more dancers to lap me, but it's nigh on impossible to get the dancers I want over to me, so I decide to head a couple miles down Thomas to Bombshell's.
Sadly, Exotic Engineer no longer dances here. She left because allegedly the mileage was metaphorically going up through the roof (and actually heading out to the bank parking lot next to the club). I had this info confirmed by another dancer at another club, who'd danced at Bombshells for less than a week and was told the situation by the night manager. Of course, on the pink side, this is grounds for nuclear destruction; me, I have the launch codes securely locked away and my curiosity definitely piqued.
Bombshells is a small club; excluding the bar, stage area and VIP rooms, the actual floor area is probably smaller than the living room/kitchen area in my house. I say this to emphasize this fact: It is close to impossible to ignore customers, as you can't stray very far here. Most of the dancers here are not my type: booty shakers and skinny tweaker types. No one approaches me for 45 minutes, even though I am sitting on the cushioned bench along the west wall by the dancer's dressing room, which is where the lappers sit. One gal finally approaches; she is very nice and we chat for 10 minutes, but I'm not buying anything. She moves on.
There are still two busty blondes here, but they spend most of the time in the back room or hanging with some dude on the couches in the front of the club. Once, the one dancer I really wanted to lap came ouut of the back, slowly made her way counterclockwise around the stage, studiously avoiding eye contact with all PLs, complained to herself that no one was buying, and returned to the dressing room. A black dancer approached me shortly after that, using this openng line, "May I rub my boobies in your face?" They're only b-cups, but what the hell. She does, dance is nice, nothing special, we finish after two.
Busty blonde dancer walks out, now in civilian clothes. I leave right after her, as she was the only dancer I'd seen that I cared to lap, and she was done. She'd parked next to me, and I could her complaining to the doorman carrying her stuff how shitty a night it was. I smiled, shook my head, and said to myself, "Thanks for saving me a c-note." As for extracurricular activities in and/or around the club, none were found. Unless EE returns, it's unlikely I'll be back to Bombshells anytime soon.
CP
ExoticEngineer
10-29-2007, 09:36 AM
Awe CP! Yah, no returning for me. As much as I love to give a good dance, I'm certainly not comfy with being pimped out. Call me crazy, it's just not my thing.
It stinks that I missed you though....and I don't suppose I could convince you to try your hand at another club someday, huh?
;D
Richard_Head
10-29-2007, 02:59 PM
Interesting comments about BSC CP, I used to stop there at least once a week, now it's maybe once a month (if that). I find myself bored very quickly there nowdays. How the mighty have fallen. I did see Foxy on my last visit there though and I concur, that girl is flawless. I stopped by Bombshell's awhile back too, I wasn't overly impressed, it was okay, I wouldn't hesitate to go back, but it's not someplace I see myself stopping into on a regular basis though.
EE, where are you working nowdays???
ExoticEngineer
10-29-2007, 04:51 PM
Ohhh, a little spot in Tempe. ;D
Chili Palmer
10-29-2007, 06:27 PM
Awe CP! Yah, no returning for me. As much as I love to give a good dance, I'm certainly not comfy with being pimped out. Call me crazy, it's just not my thing.
It stinks that I missed you though....and I don't suppose I could convince you to try your hand at another club someday, huh?
;D
You know how I like clubs with real VIP rooms, but I'll make an exception in your case and try to stop by Thursday evening.
CP
Chili Palmer
11-02-2007, 09:27 PM
Made it over to CCT last night but, sadly, no EE.
Had a parade of ladies come over to my table and leave disappointed. Not my type. Finally saw one onstage that was, so I went stageside and tipped her. She asked how my night was going and I told her it would be going better if she danced for me. When she came offstage, she found where I was and asked me, "Do you want the $10 dance or the $20 dance?" I asked what the $20 dance entailed. She told me, "No touching on the $10." I wanted to touch, so I agreed to the $20, figuring if it was worth a standard VIP lap to grope her a bit. It was, she did five songs for me.
I did stop back at BSC, though. I just can't help myself. The percentage of women whose implants are far too big for their body types is just too strong of a lure for me to resist for very long. Had four dances with a super curvy coed who always gives low mileage dances, but the bod makes up for it. A couple more from a hot brunette named Eva, just killing in her white fishnet bodystocking. Until that point, I'd stayed cool, just getting the $10 floor laps, barely even putting my hands on the dancers' legs or sides. A smokin' petite brunette came by, did one dance and immediately she put my hands on her. Hmmm. After one song, she asked if I wanted to go to VIP. But, I AM A RO--, um, sure thing. We do seven songs, and she restores my faith that mileage may be returning to BSC.
Interesting sidenote: when I was Bombshell's last week, I walked in at the same time as a group of Latinos. The doorman scanned their ID's like they were being admitted to Los Alamos National Laboratories, aand then thought nothing of waving me in without so much as a how-do-you-do. At CCT's last night a group of Indians (not the woo woo kind) entered right before me, same deal by the doorman there. To me, "Welcome to Christie's, sir," as he got the door for me. Ahh, Phoenix, melting pot to the world.
CP
ExoticEngineer
11-03-2007, 01:37 PM
I cannot belive I missed you! :(
I hurt my foot on Halloween (a drunken mishap) and skipped work on Thurs night. Crap!
And I'm so impressed you actually went into CCT, I know that club isn't exactly your style. So thank you for stopping by! Still pissed I missed you though.
Jay Zeno
11-03-2007, 06:55 PM
Guys, there's a PM system here. Set up an appointment at the office. Don't leave us hanging. So to speak.
Warning, this AZ club report became much longer than I planned. I guess I had a lot to say, and had fun writing it. Enjoy!
Well it seems appropriate to let the AZ faithful know that CP isn't having all the fun out there. I had a great dayshift visit to the other Christies in Phoenix on Friday. I hadn't been in for quite awhile and I got to see my faves and a few more! My usual modus operandi for daytrips to Phoenix is to have a work related purpose that I can complete in the morning before lunchtime. Then I can stop in at CCP and see a couple of favorite gals there, and then head over to the Hi-Liter for more fun with my ATF before hitting the parking lot known as I-10 eastbound. Such was my plan yesterday.........
I finished my work stuff earlier than usual, which found me driving into the CCP parking lot right when they opened at 11am. I always feel strange about being the first custy into a club when they open, but I was on a mission so I decided WTF, who cares and I'll have lunch. I knew I was really early when I went to the men's room and the bouncer was in there shaving, jeez maybe he sleeps there too! Anyway, they started the music and brought out the first dancer, I ordered a BLT, and settled in to watch the parade for awhile. CCP really is a plush club with comfortable seating, a dominant main stage, and an overall nice layout. The BLT was excellent btw.
My fave at this club (Ms. M) always comes in right when they open, and works for just a few hours, so she usually serves as an excellent warm-up act for my ATF over at the HL. I had texted her the day before to let her know I would be in, and knew she would be out soon. Before she went on stage, I noticed her sitting in her "corner office" with another PL, and when I tipped her on stage a few songs later, she was glad to see me but said she would be finished dancing for him in a half hour or so. So much for being there first, but I didn't mind too much, so I went back to my seat to watch for one of my other CCP favorites.
It was well into the noon hour, and Ms. M was still hangin with PL#1 when I saw a familiar form up on the balcony scanning the target environment for lunchtime prey. Fave #2 (Ms. P) is a classic All-American blonde doll that always looks incredible. Ms. P is probably the best-dressed stripper I know, her outfits are always sexy, extremely well fitted, and compliment her great looks very, very well. I'm partial to a white gown that she often wears, but this day she had on a valentine red outfit that blew me away. I think she spotted me, and I loved watching her saunter down the stairs directly towards me. She gave me a warm greeting, asked me if Ms. M knew I was there, and if I planned to hit the HL later...(she knows me well). She also complimented my clothes (I was wearing dress slacks and nice shirt), to which I responded that I meant to wear my running shorts just because I know how much she likes them (from a pinkie side thread), which was good for a laugh. She peeled off the red silk fabric and proceeded with several of her patented LDs, moving slowly, gently grinding me, guiding my hands to where she wanted them (which amazingly is also where I wanted them). I heard the DJ announce her as being two songs away from the stage, so she finished her sensual mauling and we exchanged the usual "see ya next time". Her stage set was awesome as usual. Ms. P dances to classic rock and really moves with the music, not just wandering around the vast stage like many of the other dancers there. I was starting to get impatient about Ms. M when I noticed that I had a voicemail from the ATF. She wasn't going to make it in to the HL today, which meant I had more time (and money) for fun with Ms. M. I am sincerely loyal to my ATF, but I have to admit I wasn’t too disappointed because Ms. M is without a doubt my “ATF in waiting” and I was really psyched to see her.
While I was waiting, I had a couple of dances from another blonde bombshell (Ms. C). She has been at CCP for a few years, but somehow I had only met her once before. Very nice LDs, soft skin, well done BA, and piercing blue eyes. I stopped her after a couple because I expected Ms. M to free up any minute. During my next waiting period I had the pleasure of watching Mustang and Tiffany (two more enhanced blondes) do a double LD for some dude sitting right in front of me. Like any other guy, I would love to live out the fantasy of having two women in bed someday, but for some reason, double LDs just don’t appeal to me. It was big fun to watch, however.
Finally, Ms. M was called to the stage again and finished with her “half hour” PL after way over an hour and a half. I went up to tip her, and of course she apologized and told me to meet her after her set back in the “corner office”. CCP’s main seating area wraps around the expansive stage, but there is a lower seating area behind it, and more seats along the back wall. This is where the corner office is located. It’s very nice to sit back there for multiple LDs, not because of extras, but it’s just more private, quieter, and there’s almost no other foot traffic back there. While I was settling in back there, I saw Ms. P (fave#2) up on the balcony again waving at me with a big grin (she knew what I was in for…).}:D
Ms. M is a beautiful Asian ethnic mix with almost waist length dark hair, big eyes, and a perfectly enhanced set of 34DDs. RH has seen her pics on her myspace page, and I like his description of her - insanely hot. She was wearing a tiny white bikini that created awe inspiring cleavage with a little white eye patch over her naughty bits down below. She came over immediately after her stage set and we chatted awhile. She has a fashion modeling career that is really starting to take off with spots in some national publications. If her success continues, her days at CCP will be numbered, which is exactly what she wants to happen. I piled on the CS that I was so happy for all her modeling success, but that it would be a sad day for me when she leaves. I guess it wasn’t entirely CS, I really am happy for her.
When Ms. M starts a LD, the first thing she does is stand in front of you, take your hands and plant them full onto her tits. It’s not one of those tricks where she puts your hands on top of hers, she just puts them there and squeezes, so who am I to object? She actively encourages more full on breast massage than any dancer I’ve met, which is another reason why it’s nice to be in the corner office with fewer neighbors. The dances continue full tilt with me fulfilling my massage duties and her driving me down the autobahn like a Porsche with a six speed manual gearbox. We took a break after 8 songs so I could catch my breath and cool my transmission; I don’t think she was winded at all. After chatting through a couple of songs we started up again and got back on the highway, only to be interrupted a few songs later by the swirling spotlights that meant she had to go up front with all the other girls and try to hawk T-shirts or some other useless crap. What a freakin waste of time and rhythm killer. She returned and we got back into the groove for a handful more songs until the DJ announced that she was coming up to be due on stage. Our trip down the autobahn had completed 17 or 18 laps, so I paid her for 20 and wished her well. Then I waited a few minutes to allow me to put my stick shift back in neutral and cruised out to hit the real highway. Since I didn’t go over to the HL, extra bonus – it was only about 2:30 so the traffic was not bad at all. And so another Arizona club dayshift mission was accomplished, and a good time was had by all.
Richard_Head
11-04-2007, 08:56 AM
My fave at this club (Ms. M) always comes in right when they open, and works for just a few hours, so she usually serves as an excellent warm-up act for my ATF over at the HL. I had texted her the day before to let her know I would be in, and knew she would be out soon. Before she went on stage, I noticed her sitting in her "corner office" with another PL, and when I tipped her on stage a few songs later, she was glad to see me but said she would be finished dancing for him in a half hour or so. I had a rare day off awhile back so I stopped in to see her during her early hours, the PL's were apparently already lined up to see her, she only works a couple of hours so I get the feeling that finding time with her is a rare occurrence (she never did get around to me BTW).
Ms. M is a beautiful Asian ethnic mix with almost waist length dark hair, big eyes, and a perfectly enhanced set of 34DDs. RH has seen her pics on her myspace page, and I like his description of her - insanely hot. Having seen her at the club too, that description is spot on!!
Chili Palmer
11-04-2007, 11:31 AM
I had a rare day off awhile back so I stopped in to see her during her early hours, the PL's were apparently already lined up to see her, she only works a couple of hours so I get the feeling that finding time with her is a rare occurrence (she never did get around to me BTW).
No, no, no! This can't be true. Ask any girl on the pink side: Business is TERRIBLE in Phoenix right now. :sarcastic
Great report, azdd. Sorry I've missed these girls. You've really found some great ones.
CP
Chili Palmer
11-26-2007, 06:12 PM
Time for something a little less serious than the topics of the last few days: a TRIP REPORT! :drink:
Hit the club early Saturday afternoon. As I walked in, one dancer in civvies was complaining on the phone to her bf that it was slow and she didn't want to be there (at best, the club had been open an hour; way to hang in there, sweetheart! :great: )
At least she was accurate: less than a dozen PLs and a similar number of dancers. I find my usual seat (far side of the club, backing up to the VIP room, giving me a full view of the club and no way for someone to sneak up behind me) and spy my little petite Latina honey making her way to the stage. I immediately go up and tip her, she kisses me on the mouth. When I ask if she's availabile, she tells me she has to finish up some dances for another dude, then she'll be right over. This gives one of my other faves (big boobed brunette) a chance to come over and say hi. Off we go to the VIP; there is one other couple in there and I make a note to find that chick later, another brunette with a perfect f'n hardbody. BBB and I do our usual five dances: grinding, feeding, lotsa stick-shifting. Always fun. I wish her well and go back to my seat.
My petite Latina honey finally comes over (dude she was with just wanted to fucko her, not buy any laps!) and we head directly to VIP. Damn, she is all over me. DFK, stroking, moaning, we are really having a fun time. Hardbody is still in the VIP; she stops her dance for a moment, comes over and whispers something my girl. Namely, she doesn't to see a custy fingering her in VIP. WTF? This bitch has been in VIP for at least a half hour, so why should her panties be in a bunch? Not like it costs her money. Our mellow obviously harshed now (dancer drama rears its ugly head), we quit after five but agree to start again when Bitchy McNosy isn't around. I do, however, make it point to find out the name of the dancer, so I can be sure to avoid her from this point forward.
I try a few other dancers; nothing special. I will say this: ladies, if you smoke, better figure out a way to eliminate the residue from your clothing/mouth. I stopped one dancer after two songs on the floor because I couldn't take her tobacco smell anymore.
Club Two beckons. Quick drive; I am (politely) wanded down before entering (guess this is what happens when you have a shooting in the parking lot). There ARE bikers wearing colors huddled out front, so maybe this is a good idea. Inside, get a good seat up against the wall (now you know what club I'm in). Sicily, the dancer onstage is one of the hottest in town: I go up to tip her and song is ending. She doesn't even make a half-hearted effort to take my dollar and bolts offstage like it was covered in bark scorpions. She heads back to a table near the back where she justs sits and drinks with a PL I assume is her BF/hubby and chats with him for pretty much the rest of her shift. I've seen her do that before and, in point of fact, have never seen her circulate through the club. Hang out for hours, then deign to dance for, like, 1-2 other PLs, then civvie up and head out. Mystifying. I do try out a MILFy latina named Maria. Very sensual. I'll do her again. A stunning brunette named Stephanie goes onstage and I have no tip money. Head over to the bar to get some ones, and still I'm the only PL who tips her. Just sad. I ask her to stop by for some dances (I always use the plural), she agrees but can't seem to remember to only person in the club who tipped her. Oh well. I find another amazonic dancer; soon we are groping each other on the floor and finally in the VIP. This gal really laid it on thick, and I enjoyed every minute of it. At one point, she asked my age, and I told her "47". "No way," she says, "you don't look like more than 30!" I laugh, and then she grabs my package and says, "and this certainly doesn't feel like 47, either." Good times. I'm about to finish up and bail when I spot Lexus, a 4-Clydesdale dancer if ever there was one. Genetically perfect to begin with, she has mild enhancements up top which only make her even better. With her mileage moving up, too, we go for eight dances until she's called onstage. C'est la vie. Now, it's time to bounce out.
Morning follow-up note: woke up Sunday with a terrible pain in the my shoulder. Couldn't figure out why, then it struck me: Massage dancer strikes again! I winced a few times, but didn't think it was that bad; my muscles would beg to differ. Ladies, please: no shiatsu in the club, okay?
CP
someyoungguysomeyoungguy
12-06-2007, 09:59 PM
I'll be visiting Phoenix later this month, and I want to say thanks for making AZ clubs a lively forum here.
Everybody has there own favorites, but it looks like I should go for the Hi-Liter and Christie's-Phoenix when the sun's up, and Centerfolds come sundown, right? (I'm a man not too picky on looks, much prefer the need for privacy and mileage.)
Thanks again for all the help!
Chili Palmer
12-07-2007, 08:32 PM
Dayshift: Hi-Liter AND Centerfolds. No other club (except maybe CCP but the hot girls have fuckos stacked five deep) even needs to be open before 5.
Night: Bourbon Street. Mileage is back where it rightfully belongs. Feel free to PM me and I'll send you some names.
CP
Jay Zeno
12-10-2007, 09:04 PM
I'm heading to Phoenix in a bit with a couple days to call my own. I might browse a club.
But I just posted for recommendations in Pink. I should've looked here. Got some reading to do. Anybody got updated recommendations beyond the last two posts?
Jay Zeno
12-11-2007, 05:20 AM
All good questions. I'd rent a car, so transportation won't be an issue. I've generally enjoyed the quieter afternoons more than the party evenings, although it's all good.
Have fun, feel free to shoot me a PM if you want any more intel (or if you want a wingman).
RH speaks the truth about the charming old Hi-Liter and Christie's Phoenix. Both are relatively centrally located and easy to get to. I also think Bourbon Street Circus is a nice afternoon stop. If you are looking for that "something extra" then just scroll back and read CP's reports from Centerfolds, and you may decide it's worth a little longer drive. There are many more clubs in the Phoenix area, but IMHO after those already mentioned, the curve starts to decline rapidly as you move further down the list.
If the timing worked out, and you were interested, you could probably get one or more of us AZ-junkies to meet up with you and serve as tour guides. ;D
Jay Zeno
12-11-2007, 09:17 PM
If the timing worked out, and you were interested, you could probably get one or more of us AZ-junkies to meet up with you and serve as tour guides. ;DA Blue SF? Or more precisely, an SCJF? SCJFPDX? Men socializing voluntarily? What would the ladies think? It'd be as shocking as though we stopped and asked for directions.
I'm buying the first round.