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Chuck149
01-04-2004, 03:27 PM
Well if Ms. B asks about it, just tell her you didn't think "Boat Dude" would approve of a private LMAO
SportsWriter2
01-05-2004, 09:23 AM
FBR, you CAN be more ruthless once you understand that many dancers LIKE this. You are sooo close to winning the lottery here. My comments:
* Miss D mentioned Miss B and the BJ thing to gauge your reaction. Act like you've been there, done that, and it's all good. Dancers will do wild stuff when they know you're as wild as they are.
* Chuck is on the mark. Tell Miss B that you would have had the private with her but for BD. After the private with Miss D, bring her closer to an even money split with Miss B inside the club.
* Miss B has to understand that BD is costing her. Don't say you had a private with Miss D. Just say, "If BD didn't limit your options, you're the one I'd be doing privates with now."
* Never hesitate to use (or even make up) a pretty girl from another club. Dancers fear what they can't diss. And then dancers can't just assume you're talking about another dancer in their club.
* I could go on, but I don't want to upset Rayanna.
* The more upset dancers get, the more they want you.
Lilith
01-05-2004, 01:21 PM
FBR, you CAN be more ruthless once you understand that many dancers LIKE this. You are sooo close to winning the lottery here. My comments:
* Miss B has to understand that BD is costing her. Don't say you had a private with Miss D. Just say, "If BD didn't limit your options, you're the one I'd be doing privates with now."
I'm going to agree with this. Before you all drop from heart attacks, I have my reasons. Namely, if she is serious about BD then she needs to be put in the scenario of Money vs. Love (for lack of a better word). Once one wins out over the other, she'll be a better dancer because then she'll have her focus. Currently she seems to be trying to have her cake and eat it too, which is not good for business.
* Never hesitate to use (or even make up) a pretty girl from another club. Dancers fear what they can't diss. And then dancers can't just assume you're talking about another dancer in their club.
Fan-fucking-tastic idea. Have Megan send you pics and you'll have the flock all atwitter instantly.
* I could go on, but I don't want to upset Rayanna.
* The more upset dancers get, the more they want you.
I think SW2 is trying to tell Rayanna something here. *chuckle*
Spanky
01-06-2004, 03:34 PM
FBR - Every time I read one of your Miss B vs. Miss D posts I realize just how much of a Babe in The Woods I am at all this. ;D
And to the rest of you who can not only follow FBR but are able to offer advise - Bravo!
The only thing I could follow here is that good things come to you when Megan sends you pictures - LOL. ;)
Seriously, not knowing all the players as well as others, I agree that Miss B has to recoginize that if her relationship with BD is starting to impact your time and fun with her, then she is subject to being out faved by Miss D.
I think I'm starting to learn some of the ways of you more experienced players. I cut back on my visits to Fav 1A due to her taking me a little too much for granted. Surprise, surprise, guess who's interest level seems to have gone up recently.
And I thought we go to these places for the LDs. ::)
fishnet
01-06-2004, 07:23 PM
Hey FBR, don't leave us hanging! Did you call Miss D today. Is it a go for Friday? ;D
LOL Yes indeed ;D I called around 1:30 as promised. I got her voice mail and I thought shit >:( I left her a message and she called back around 2. She immediately said "Were on for Friday, right?" ::)
Miss D apologized for missing my call. She was eating lunch with Miss A from the club at the time. The restaurant they were at is only about 4 blocks from my office. She mentioned that she eats there almost everyday LOL Not sure if she was giving me the 411 or if it was just a casual comment. If I werent such a slow thinker I would have said "Hey, thats only a few blocks from where I work...why the hell didnt you invite me?" LOL
So as I said, Friday appears to be firm (no pun intended :P ) Were gonna meet at 2PM at the hotel bar for a couple of drinks and then off to the races. She plans to work that night so as it stands it wont be a lengthy private...only a couple hours max. But thats OK. If, God forbid, it doesnt work out well, I will be glad it was so short. If things go as planned, I'll have incentive to book more time for the next one 8). Miss D did mention to me the other day that shed love to have a regular monthly thing if I was cool with that.
As always, I will keep you posted. I may not be able to post the graphic details ::) but I think you'll get the gist LOL
FBR
I think I'm starting to learn some of the ways of you more experienced players. I cut back on my visits to Fav 1A due to her taking me a little too much for granted. Surprise, surprise, guess who's interest level seems to have gone up recently.
Spanky,I do think its some natural law of Stripper Physics LOL If you treat them really nice..kind of like you would with a real life GF, they think you are a PL and treat you like shit. On the other hand, if youre cool with them but make them think that, although you like them, theres tons of other strippers ready willing and able, then they kiss your butt. I find it very bizarre but interesting LOL
Ive been through the whole gammut. Crash and burn RIL, PL, Player ad naseum. Right now Im having a good time working the Miss B/Miss D angle. Hopefully, all these machinations will work out well for me. If not, guess Ill have to start over with some other dancers LOL
FBR
fishnet
01-09-2004, 04:15 PM
I'm sure FBR's private went just fine! ;D What I really want to see is the drama report filed after Miss D wags her index finger at Miss B and says: Deedleeedle! I did a private with FBR. LOL. Ole FBR is gonna have to do some fast talking to get out of this one. Of course tossing BD in her face will probably quiet Miss B down pretty quick. This thread is about to get really good. :D
NVJosh
01-09-2004, 05:39 PM
Miss A loves to f*ck
God bless Miss A ;D
electric_head
01-09-2004, 08:45 PM
Way To Go FBR sounds like a great time.
I need to get to the club and get some drama started LOL I talked to Miss D the other night. Shes working Thursday night so Im planning to stop by the club and see whats up. Havent heard from Miss B. Shes back at school and I know she is busy. Last time I talked to her she said she was only able to work Fridays and Saturdays. Guess I may have to make a Friday stop at the club too LOL
FBR
fishnet
01-16-2004, 08:56 PM
Anyways, she asked me Have you been hanging out with Miss D? I dont think she liked my Yes reply LOL but what the hell am I supposed to do? LOL
FBR
LMAO! You mean you didn't add.... "Hell yeah! I have to do something when you are with BD." :D
Spanky
01-16-2004, 11:09 PM
While we were sitting at the bar drinking beforehand I picked up some club gossip from Miss D
Miss E ...is banging the owner of the club.
FBR
First of all, FBR - you are the man!
Now, How common is it for dancers to bang the owners and managers at the club for better shifts or for whatever reason? Anyone have any feel on this? Is it rare or somewhat common place?
Thanks!
fishnet
01-16-2004, 11:16 PM
While we were sitting at the bar drinking beforehand I picked up some club gossip from Miss D
Miss E ...is banging the owner of the club.
FBR
First of all, FBR - you are the man!
Now, How common is it for dancers to bang the owners and managers at the club for better shifts or for whatever reason? Anyone have any feel on this? Is it rare or somewhat common place?
Thanks!
My guess would be somewhat commonplace. There was one dancer at my club that was incredibly good at what she did. She was dating one of the owners. I guess they took things to the next level because she suddenly stopped dancing. And they hadn't stopped dating.
LOL... the DJs probably get as much as the owners and managers. ;)
Anyways, she asked me Have you been hanging out with Miss D? I dont think she liked my Yes reply LOL but what the hell am I supposed to do? LOL
FBR
LMAO! You mean you didn't add.... "Hell yeah! I have to do something when you are with BD." :D
LOL Like I often say, Im a little slow LOL Usually if I manage to think of some great response, its about 2 days later :o LOL
BD's name came up a couple times. I good naturedly ;) gave her a little bit of shit about it. She looked at me all serious and said "FBR, we're friends. You should be happy that I have some stability in my life." I couldnt think of a single smart ass thing to say to that one. Where is MrP and/or ML when you need them? LOL
FBR
fishnet
01-18-2004, 04:51 PM
Father forgive me for I have sinned LOL
FBR
You are forgiven my son! Go forth and ply her with alcohol. maybe a little money and see what happens. ;D LOL.
SportsWriter2
01-20-2004, 08:15 AM
SportsWriter2 always seeks out the best in drama. Thanks to voice message forwarding, he's never far from the fun.
Sometimes a favorite takes things for granted and messes up. Her regular then has the option to dump her completely. In this ending the favorite took it badly. Here is her last cell phone message transcribed as a poem.
When a favorite gets dumped, she has difficulty coping when her former regular spends time in the club with someone else. She may even try to create an incident and get him banned.
This cell phone message references another layer of drama. The regular liked the favorite's friend in another club, so the favorite regularly "told stories" about her friend. After being dumped, the favorite called her friend and left a message that the regular "talks shit" about the friend. When the friend told the regular about the call, he set the record straight with specific details the friend had revealed only to the favorite.
The last cell phone message took place right after the friend called the favorite and said their friendship is over. Keep in mind that the favorite rarely uses the F word in normal conversation, and she has no idea where the regular lives.
the last cell phone message
you fuckin loser,
i'm callin the fuckin cops on you tomorrow;
i'm gettin a fuckin restraining order against you
how dare you go in my friends club and talk shit about me,
saying I say that she fucked this guy and sucked that guy,
and she has this disease and that disease.
who the fuck are you?
you fuckin perverted scumbag;
you fuckin loser;
you have no right!
you're gonna die alone;
you're gonna be in strip clubs the rest of your fuckin life.
nobody likes you;
everybody thinks you're a crazy psycho,
and I should never have gotten involved with you in the first place.
so be prepared to have fuckin restraining orders
delivered to your fuckin house tomorrow,
cuz I'm callin the fuckin cops.
you don't wanna fuckin do this to me,
and if you ever walk into [my club] again,
you can walk right the fuck out,
cuz you're gonna be fuckin banned from there.
cuz you're fuckin crazy,
and everybody hates you,
just like I do,
and I don't give a fuck if you die tomorrow,
you fuckin filthy scumbag.
Final note: In case you wondered, she used 17 F words.
High Roller
01-20-2004, 08:53 AM
When a favorite gets dumped, she has difficulty coping when her former regular spends time in the club with someone else. She may even try to create an incident and get him banned.
Good post SW2! After some of the things that have happened since OR's return, I can't help but think OR and OMTM are plotting something along these lines. They are watching us and making it pretty obvious they are doing so. It would be totally in character for both of them and wouldn't surprise me in the least if they enineered an incident. ::)
SportsWriter2
01-20-2004, 02:40 PM
The call was indeed real and sounds frantic. One of Sandy's friends listened to it.... When you see it on paper and arrange the lines, it's really a desperate poem to protect the heart from further pain.... She later sent an e-mail saying he had fucked her over more than anyone in her life.
Lunch with Miss B was very nice. In spite of my stated intentions, I didnt ply her with alcohol LOL Instead we just had a nice lunch at a Thai restaurant and shot the shit. She wanted to go somewhere for an after lunch drink but unfortunately I had to go see a customer late this afternoon and didnt want to smell like booze. She said "Cant you just have a couple drinks and then chew some gum?" LOL Damn, she was making it tough on me ;D We discussed maybe coffee but there wasnt anywhere close by for that. Since she had mentioned working tonight I knew she didnt have a whole lot of time anyways. I wound up taking a raincheck. Her parting words were "Call me"
Miss B looked very hot today. If funny how a woman youve seen nearly naked dozens of times (and actually naked twice ;) ) can look so hot in street clothes. She met me right after class and totally had the college student look going on. Yummy :P Our waiter made about 50 trips to our table to refill my water glass even when it didnt need it LOL I think he was trying to get some free wood LOL
Im surprised she made such a strong effort to continue our engagement beyond the hour or so I was anticipating. We were having a nice conversation but still.... Maybe she thought Id give her money if we wound up hanging out for a few hours and then she wouldnt have to go to work or at least work a full shift. I dunno. Regardless, it was a nice time.
Im glad she didnt ask me when I was going back to the club. I didnt want to tell her that Im planning to meet Miss D tomorrow for a couple hours or until my funds run out. I suspect she'll find out anyway and if that happens, Im sure I'll hear about it. Whenever she mentions her the reference is always "Miss D...your new girlfriend" ::) It would be nice if she was jealous over something other than the money LOL
FBR
SportsWriter2
01-21-2004, 07:50 PM
My ATF used to say, "I'm jealous..." whenever I spent any time with anyone else. So I would ask if she was money jealous, attention jealous, or SW2 jealous. Turns out that money and attention from a quality regular defines a dancer's status inside a club. You can't separate the three.... So take heart that Miss B is jealous over YOUR money, FBR.
I didnt tell Miss B that I had a playdate with Miss D tonight. Actually I didnt know Miss B would be working...Thursday has been an off nite for her since shes been back to school. I about shit when Im sitting there getting major wood from Miss D's grinding and lo and behold there stands Miss B LOL Im sure my wave to her was pretty lame but Im like WTF LOL
That was a first for me. I learned later that Miss L told Miss B that I was in the club. But for her to come up to the dance area alone just to anounce her presensce freaked me out LOL Its amazing what the desire for money or the fear of losing said money will do to you LOL
FBR
fishnet
01-22-2004, 09:38 PM
LMAO!!! Well she just had lunch with ya the day before. :D If Miss B didn't get any dances from ya that will probably be the last time too. :P
SportsWriter2
01-23-2004, 06:53 AM
Fish, I think Miss B has insecurities about where she'll end up on the flockette list. This is where FBR takes her aside and explains that her down side is the way she lets BD limit her options.... If he doesn't play one against the other, he's a NICE GUY, the saddest kind of PL.
fishnet
01-23-2004, 01:43 PM
I agree with you SW2. I just like to razz ole FBR because were buds. I'm sure he'll work getting busted to his advantage. ;D
Kitty Kats compete and I should use that to my advantage more often. If you treat the dancers too well they take you for granted. I can think of several instances where I deviated from my usual pattern to get dances from another girl or girls before getting dances with the regular. Each time ended up being a great night with the fav and increased mileage too. :o
Sporty, I do tend to be a nice guy LOL and no doubt that will limit me somewhat. Its apparent that Miss B and D are competing for me (I mean my dollars, not for ME personally) Im leaning towards Miss D right now because privates with her are a sure thing. Miss B, on the other hand, really seems to be hooked on BD. That hasnt impacted her performance at the club but for now the privates with her are toast. If the circumstances are right, I may try and have the conversation you refer to. I will have to handle it just right though.
Fish, I hope I can work things to my advantage. Certainly, it was a wierd situation for me, probably because I am a "nice" guy. I could tell that Miss B was hurt by my lack of attention. And not just because of the money IMO. The offal from our privates was that we have, perhaps, developed a little closer relationship than is usual for customers and strippers. Witness the phone call to me the other night when those damn dogs were about to kill each other. She was frightened and turned to me for comfort. I was touched although some of you may be thinking PL LOL
For the record, I didnt ignore Miss B last night by any means. I bought her several drinks, chatted her up some and tipped her some cash but I didnt do any dances with her. Having said that, I felt my confirmed play date with Miss D took presidence. The fact that Miss B happened to show up on an unscheduled night wasnt my problem. Maybe she doesnt understand that she would be "owning" me at the club had she not made the decision to nix the privates.
Miss D called me earlier this evening from the club. She said it was busy but there wasnt anyone there she knew and on top of that they had a large number of dancers working. Of course she invited me up to hang out with her. I told her Id try to make it if I could but I had some stuff to do. Later, as I thought about it, I probably should have just told her no. My warchest is down to almost nothing and as much as Id like to think I could skate by on my charm and good looks LOL you gotta have money to go to strip clubs. So instead Im here reading the board and posting LOL Im sure since I didnt commit she wont necessarily be expecting me. It would have been fun though...she is very sexy and fun to hang out with.
Since my WC is so thin right now for the next few weeks I'll just have to live vicariously off of the posts of my fellow junkies. Damn, I cant wait to get my next playmoney check. Miss D is on for another private pretty much on a moments notice. That will wind up being around 5 small by the time you figure in everything. Should be no problem with a couple trips to the club to spare. As Im typing this I am having flashbacks of that afternoon Dayummmm Miss D definitely doesnt buy into the old joke that the definition of "oral sex" is just talking about it LOL
FBR
Chuck149
01-24-2004, 07:09 AM
FBR, the way I see it Ms. "B" wants to be your friend Ms. "D" wants to be your "sex slave"
Let's see, "friend".... "sex slave" .... now which one would I choose… hmmm tough decision.
NVJosh
01-24-2004, 08:16 AM
How about a friendly sex-slave?
SportsWriter2
01-24-2004, 08:34 AM
Thomas Jefferson would love this thread.
fishnet
01-24-2004, 09:24 AM
Thomas Jefferson would love this thread.
What a sad state it would be if we failed to follow in the footsteps of the founding fathers. LOL. :D
High Roller
01-25-2004, 04:59 PM
I was in the club last night. ;D My first dances were with Miss T. She drives a couple hundred miles to work at this club and I asked why she didn't work the home town club. Whoa! I didn't expect the answer I got. There is a blonde hottie with pics on our site that currently works for the competition. I never knew why she switched. :P It turns out she was fired from my club and Miss T's home club.:o
In the other club there was a dancer named H. She had a safe at home and this Miss S knew where it was. She convinced her boyfriend to go for it. He broke in, beat the shit out of her dog, trashed the place and stole the safe with 3 large in it. The getaway car belonged to Miss S. Miss H came home in time to get the license plate. The cops went to the club and questioned Miss S who confessed everything. 10 of the club's top girls quit. The club lost sooo much money the owner was forced to sell. He was also a partner at my club which is why Miss S got fired here as well.
Richard_Head
01-25-2004, 06:26 PM
In the other club there was a dancer named H. She had a safe at home and this Miss S knew where it was. She convinced her boyfriend to go for it. He broke in, beat the shit out of her dog, trashed the place and stole the safe with 3 large in it. The getaway car belonged to Miss S. Miss H came home in time to get the license plate. The cops went to the club and questioned Miss S who confessed everything. 10 of the club's top girls quit. The club lost sooo much money the owner was forced to sell. He was also a partner at my club which is why Miss S got fired here as well.
Damn, that is messed up.
smooth
01-25-2004, 07:32 PM
In the other club there was a dancer named H. She had a safe at home and this Miss S knew where it was. She convinced her boyfriend to go for it. He broke in, beat the shit out of her dog, trashed the place and stole the safe with 3 large in it. The getaway car belonged to Miss S. Miss H came home in time to get the license plate. The cops went to the club and questioned Miss S who confessed everything. 10 of the club's top girls quit. The club lost sooo much money the owner was forced to sell. He was also a partner at my club which is why Miss S got fired here as well.
Daymn... who knew S had it in her to plan and jack another dancer. She seemed really sweet too when I saw her at her new club. And this girl is young... maybe 19 or 20... and is from a small town. We actually exchanged a few PM's in the past.
Moneywise
01-27-2004, 04:28 PM
Dayum. I bow to the SC prowess of some of you guys. *grin*
I have a hard time concentrating on just my ATF Let's call her Ms. L. Lately she has been bringing her friend, Ms. S, over to sit for a bit whenever I arrive. To be honest it's quite funny to get some of the looks I get from some of the other guys in the club when I am chatting it up with two of the best looking there LOL.
Some guys are like WTF. He's just sitting there and not buying any dollar dances. Yeah but I am buying drinks and conversating. Thats' something these girls complain a lot about. Guys will sit and just stare at them like zombies all tongue tied.
Ms. S is simply tagging along to try and mooch a LD. I usually buy both of them drinks when they sit together. Eventually Ms. S gets the picture after I have devoted my attention to Ms. L long enough and walks off to make her money. I really need to try what some of you do and spread just a little bit of my money around when I first get there to see how it affects Ms. L. :)
MW, yeah quite a few of the sexy dancers have "Hangers On". If these ladies are hot, fine, but usually they are not. Dont succomb to pity dances whatever you do. Drinks are cool though...thats being a gentleman who knows how to play the game.
FBR
The Canadian dudes are coming back to town tomorrow. Looks like a trip to the club tomorrow night is in the works. I just called Miss D to see if shes working then. I laid some major CS on her but unfortunately she cant work :(. I could tell she was thinking dayum Im missing out on money LOL
Interestingly, she brought up Megan and the aborted visit to Dayton. She says she doesnt understand why Mike didnt book her and was going to talk to him again. Maybe she did torpedoed me but I wonder why she brought it up? I thought I knew how to handle SS but this one is over my head LOL
On the plus side, shes more than ready for next Tuesday. I cant wait ;D Miss D is smokin hot :P Ive shared a few details with a couple of board buddies and the keys on my keyboard are still blackened from the flames LOL
FBR
Bosshog
01-27-2004, 10:20 PM
Okay, FBR. I'm feeling left out. PM me the details! lol
SportsWriter2
01-28-2004, 03:54 AM
Wanna swap, FBR? :P
Greetings gentleman!
Since I'm a newbie, a little background info is in order. My name is TT, and I'm a junkie! I'm single and live in a smallish midwestern college town, where I frequent a small, relatively inexpensive club ($3-$5 cover; $15 laps) 3-6 times a month (been a patron at this club about a year), usually for about an hour of entertainment per trip. My burn rate per trip is usually somewhere between $80-$120, which is more than enough to make me a quality regular in this town, as most of the patrons are poor college students (read: no-dance-buying freeloaders and shitty tippers). I have an ATF (Miss A) at this club, of whom I've been a regular of for 9 or 10 months. She's a dark haired, porcelain skinned, 23 year old goddess (5'5" maybe 110 lbs. and a natural 34C-24-34) and I enjoy both her excellent company and sensuous laps. I'm not at all a RIL, rather I quite understand my niche in this game we all know, love, and play. I've been lurking for about a month here, and I've found this site to be an extremely valuable resource. All of your collective adventures, misadventures, and general wisdom born of experience have both grounded me and made me a heads up regular.
Now to the drama:
My ATF has a boyfriend she's been dating maybe a year and a half, and she and I have never seen each other outside of the club. However, I've successfully negotiated my first ever private with her (I suspect that this is behind her bf's back), and as I've never had a private with anyone, I'm looking forward to the event with great anticipation. Note: Miss A lives in a townhouse with 3 other strippers that I'm friendly with when clubbing.
Anyway, upon my last visit, I was approached by one of said roommates, Miss P, while Miss A was changing in the back. Miss P and I have never really been more than superficially friendly with each other, but on this night we had a heart to heart of sorts:
Miss P: So what's going on with you and Miss A? She says that you've got it bad for her.
TT: (laughing) Well, I adore Miss A, and enjoy spending time with her when I visit, but I know she's got a bf and I'm not dangerously obsessed with her, or really pursuing her, or anything like that.
Miss P: Have you ever met bf? He's kind of a stroke.
TT: (again laughing) No. We've never had the pleasure, and I'm not really interested in meeting him.
Miss P: (Leaning in and looking directly in my eyes) Listen ... If you want to get Miss A, you've got to be really assertive and aggressive with her. She's really submissive.
This concluded our conversation as Miss A returned to my table after changing, but this conversation continues to blow my mind. Two things I know to be true from my prior experiences at this club are:
1) None of Miss A's roommates seem to like her bf. Others have reported unsolicited, negative opinions of him to me.
2) Miss A DOES have a submissive personality. In all of the time I've known her, I've never directed an imperative to her that she has responded to in the negative. Not that any of my entreaties have been essentially overbearing (wear this, put those on, stop wearing that, do this on stage, etc.) but I do know that to be true about her.
That being said, my game plan for the private was just to be a gracious host (I've got the home court advantage for this one), to relax, and just enjoy each other and ourselves, but my conversation with Miss P makes me wonder if my overall approach is too passive and I'm not recognizing or seizing an opportunity for something more intimate with Miss A. I realize that my best course of action is probably just to proceed as planned, but Miss P added an intriguing and mysterious dimension to all of this.
What I desperately need from you gentleman is some perspective on this new dimension. What would motivate Miss P to say this to me? Is this some sort of SS? How would you gentleman proceed in this situation? Again, I'm still not really interested in trying to replace her bf, but would not at all be adverse to raising the level of intimacy physically between Miss A and me. Any and all thoughts on this subject are welcome - especially from you Godfathers out there. SW2, I'd especially like to get your perspective. It's clear to me that you are the Johnny Chan of regular junkies and CS.
Thanks,
TT
SportsWriter2
01-29-2004, 08:05 PM
Johnny Chan, I like that. I usually get Mel Kiper, the ESPN football analyst.
This one's pretty obvious. Miss A has it bad for you. She talks about you to her housemates, who want the jerk BF out of the picture. Miss P is telling you how to take her down.... Miss A loves it when you tell her what to do. She probably likes being held by her hair. Ask her what she really wants that she doesn't get from her BF. Say things like "is this what you want?" and "look at you" when she gets into it. Be confident.... Read for insights on how they think.... Get her addicted in the first private session and the rest will be almost free. You want to become her Methadone Man, not her BF. Tell her she has to be responsible and goal-oriented if she wants time with you. Her housemates will absolutely LOVE you.... Be a little more directive in the club, but save your good stuff for the private sessions. On the down side, this is like playing a too-easy video game. You wish there was a next level.
fishnet
01-31-2004, 08:48 AM
2) Miss A DOES have a submissive personality. In all of the time I've known her, I've never directed an imperative to her that she has responded to in the negative. Not that any of my entreaties have been essentially overbearing (wear this, put those on, stop wearing that, do this on stage, etc.) but I do know that to be true about her.
Thanks,
TT
Given all the info, I think SW2 has it nailed! Just taking the above paragragh...that isn't enough to say she is submissive IMHO. I think any girl is going to respond favorably to customer requests or imperatives if they think it will keep the money coming. Both my current fav and the ATF have always obliged all requests of the above nature. It's just good business. :)
SportsWriter2
01-31-2004, 02:13 PM
Fish is right. Miss A's obliging behavior is consistent with a submissive personality, but that's not enough evidence. You learn to pick up on other clues, like the way she dances on stage.... In this case, Miss P has provided TT with the most important insights. Give her a hug her and tip her well.
fishnet
01-31-2004, 02:42 PM
Maybe we should start a new thread "Stripper Analysis" lol. I wouldn't classify this as drama...it could be the beginning of some. ;) SW2, From the beginning, Miss P has told me she is not the jealous type. She has always asked me questions about what I think of certain girls and I have been quite candid. When I start talking about another girl I find intriguing, she always asks if I want to get some dances from her and says she wouldn't mind. The one time I did get dances from another before she came out, the mileage went up. LOL. Last trip I was once again talking about a new girl and she said if I wanted dances from her she wouldn't mind. LOL. If I really wanted dances from someone, I would get them whether she minded or not. Any idea why she keeps stressing she is not the possesive type? Oh and I'm asking because it's about to be put to the test. I didn't hear from her this week. I would have gone up tonight. Instead, I'm going tomorrow with a couple of buds. She is certain to hear the same night that I was in the house. LOL. A little shopping never hurts. LOL. ;)
Fish, its amazing how sometimes they just dont get it LOL It doesnt take that much time and effort to write an email or two a week :-\ Oh well LOL Im lucky to get one every other month from Miss B. Have to say, Miss D beats her hands down on email activity.
I think your plan for a low alititude late night parachute drop to the club with your buds is excellent. ;D That should definitely stirr up the pond LOL And hell you never know, you may cast your line and snag another keeper ;) Miss P has raised the bar one hell of a lot but hopefully a few other girls will rise to the challenge LOL
FBR
SportsWriter2
01-31-2004, 08:40 PM
Fish, every dancer gets jealous and possessive when you find a girl she fears.... This is part of an e-mail from a dancer who claimed not to be the possessive type until I connected with one of her best friends: "So anyways, [R.....] told me you did a room with her yesterday, I am not mad but I didn't think you would do that with a coke head slut." :)... My ATF, now back in school, is still an e-mail dream. Several paragraphs with interesting insights 4-6 times a week. And I'm not even spending money on her!
SW2 - brilliant analysis! That website is a great resource, too. Thanks!
Fish - great point and well taken. I agree 100 % that such behavior is not necessarily indicative of a submissive personality - I just meant that within the context of Miss P's statement, I thought that she was telling me the truth. There are other examples too, but I didn't want to bog you guys down with exposition. I trust that a good time was had on Sunday!
I think I'm going to schedule that private for this Fri., so maybe that will provide me with an opportunity to post my first TR.
Thanks for all the good points and analysis! The war room is already busy planning for Friday.
TT
Moneywise
02-02-2004, 02:07 PM
Today's the day. I'll have a TR later. ;)
Moneywise
02-03-2004, 03:07 AM
I called ahead of time from the cell to make sure my ATF was going to be there. She works pretty much every Monday but I like to be sure. I arrived around 10pm. The atmosphere reminded me of the typical restaurant atmosphere in between meal hous. I quickly took up residence at the bar and ordered my favorite drink. I hadn't seem my ATf yet.
I walked in and strolled right by another dancer I had given regular dances to prior to getting caught up with Ms. L. Let's call her Ms. D. She said what's up to me and I just gave her the ol head nod. Well, she must not have liked that because she immediately approached me asking what was up with the cold hi. I apologized and gave her a nice warm hug. (I had ATF on the mind when she said hi) So Ms. D sat down next to me. She's petite and curvy with cute little breasts and an ass that would make a grown man want to slap his momma. She notices I haven't hooked up with my ATF yet and siezes the opportunity. She never drinks. The most I would ever see her drinking is Pepsi. She starts chatting me up and tells me about how she placed top five in a bikini contest on Super Bowl Sunday at a popular local establishment. I knew what she wanted and, to be totally honest, I wanted it too. So she led me back to the lap dance area. We talked for a few songs. Finally she danced for me. She's very toned and athletic so she does all kinds of moves that involve handstands. The dance was one of the closest I had ever gotten from her with lots of grinding. She then tried to stick her nipple in my mouth.No such luck as I kept my mouth closed. After the song she hungout for another couple of songs and tried to talk my ears off.
Strippers know what's up. She knew I was there to see my ATF yet she tried to monopolize my time. I dropped a little hint by grabbing her top from off of the couch and handing it to her. She was like " oh oh oh you trying to get rid of me?" Inside I was saying yes but outside I told her I just wanted to go back to the bar to have another drink. She shot back with "we can have the waitress bring the drinks here". By this time I had become just a little bothered and made it quite obvious I was distracted by my ATF who had walked out of the dressing room and glanced my way.
I finally made it back to the bar a good 30 minutes after leaving it and sat right next to Ms. L (ATF) who had already ordered one of the drinks we both usually get. She was sitting there sipping with this strange look on her face. I ordered the drink she had been sipping on and started talking and catching up. First we talked about her kids and how they had been doing. (I know that's bad but I like to hear it) We went from there to the Timberlake/Janet Super Bowl stunt. We both seemed to have gotten a pretty big kick out of it. We were talking about details of the game that you wouldn't have talked to your normal female about. I really liked that.
I'm sipping on my drink at a regular pace while she sat and nursed her. I had to talk about her. I could tell it was one of her first few drinks of the night. I told her that by the time I left she would be faded. Meanwhile I am thinking about this present she got for me that she was supposed to have given to me tonight. Out of the blue she tells me she's up next and proceeds to the dj booth which is up a flight of stairs. A minute or so later she returns. At this time I asked her if she really wanted to go up on stage. She answered with a resounding "hell no!" I then told her to go tell the dj to take her out of the rotation. My main purpose was to find out what present she got me and to get a few dances. Well, after seeing her I went into fun loving, money spending mode and told her to let them know she was going to the VIP. We sat and continued to catch up on the week's events. Never once did she mention the present. OK. So I didn't make a big deal out of it either. We do 4 songs in the VIP and talk for the rest of the time. Her lap dances were of the " I missed you" variety. They were very close with plenty of opportunity to kiss in certain places. She must have brushed her nipples into my lips 20 times. 5 of those 20 I went ahead and reciprocated by lightly kissing and nibbling on them. I tried something different tonight. Inmstead of wearing my normal jeans I wore some slacks. DAMN. The lap dances are so much more personal with slacks on. She commented on it as well noting how much she liked the feel of my pants. (SS? lol)
VIP visits are 30 minutes but I tip so well at the bar that mine usually end up lasting 45 mins or so. After the 4th song her back is drenched with sweat. I took the opportunity to blow on her back while running my nose gently up between her shoulder blades. She appeared to really like that. So we eventually make our way back to the bar, order another round of drinks, and she begins really chattering with me mostly about movies she's seen and music we both recognize. (cont)
Moneywise
02-03-2004, 03:30 AM
(cont)
The dj then comes over the speaker with a birthday announcement which she always participates in. Instead of leaving to do it she says "ahhh fuck that" and stays put. I then told her to go do it and that I would be right here when she finished. She did it and left her drink with me. While Ms L. was up on stage Ms D. decided to approach me again. This time she directly asked if I wanted another LD which I replied "no thanks". She stood there next to me while I watched the bithday stage show thewhole time (drama).
Once Ms. L was done she quickly re-joined me. When Ms. D saw Ms. L coming she walked away (lol). Ms. L and I talked and talked and talked for at least a good 45 minutes while sipping on round after round after round. I'm well on the way to my goal of getting her nice & tipsy.
She tells me she'll brb and hits the RR. While she's in the RR Ms. D smoothes here way back over. I went ahead and purchased her an energy drink. She sat down in the seat Ms. L had occupied most ofthe night. Hmmm.. That was a little awkward. Thankfully there was a seat right next to me which Ms. L happily occupied upon returning. When she sat down my attention completely shifted back to her. Ms. D took her energy drink and proceeded to find the next LD patron.
The dj suddenly announces Ms. L is next. I popped her another $100 to head back to the VIP. This time we talked more intimately. She doesn't have a "boyfriend" but has some guy that's kind of off and on. She tells of how much she hates men and doesn't trust any of them. I quickly pointed out that she must have trusted me or else she wouldn't have left her drink with me as she normally does all the time. I'm kinda pouring it on a bit letting her know that I don't make it a habit of frequenting SCs. I work, take a class, and occasionally (twice a month) stop by to see her. By this time she's more relaxed with me than she's ever been telling me everything about her past BF (the father of her son). Long story short, I impressed upon her just how different the man sitting in front of her is. I even put myself out on a limb by asking her some pointed questions. She readily answered all of them with a closeness I hadn't seen before (in conversation).
We did a few more dances and spent another 45 mins in there. with lots of contact (dance or otherwise). I even asked her about this supposed gift. she apologized and said she had forgotten it. I shot back with "it must not have been that important" to which she replied "no no it's very important. It's not much but it is very important". So I agreed to get it next time but made it known I would not be back next Monday. (putting my foot down?lol)
We sat and talked until about 2:30 after leaving the VIP room at 2. During this time the conversation was very intimate. She sat facing me while I leaned over and had both my hands rubbing the back of her calves.
I mentioned lunch again. This time she was wanting to talk about where she might want to go. I just said " I'll take you wherever you go..it doesn't matter." (yeah i'm sappy) So we spent 10 minutes talking about places to eat. She couldn't remember the name of a restaurant so she took me to talk to the manager (whom I have developed a "hey what's up" relationship with). He named the restaurant . She then told him , right in front of the bartender I had been hot tipping all night, that we were planning on going out to eat. (surprised me)
The club closes at 3am. Ms D. is standing by the door. Damn. I promised her a 2nd dance and never came through on it. Oh well! I gave ms L. a big hug, told her to be good, and said goodbye to both her and Ms. D as I walked out. Ms. D just kinda stared at me and gave me the head nod with a little smirk action. lol
A little description of Ms. L: She's 23 or 24 with not one petite bone in her body. She has an ass that just won't quit, long dark hair, and green eyes. I believe she's mixed with black and italian. Her breasts are enhanced (which I typically don't care for) perfectly. Someone should have given that doctor an award. I'm a bigger, taller guy. She's the perfect combination of size, looks, and personality.
So that's my first TR. It included a little drama hence my reasing for placing it here. I'll keep em short from now on. :)
Moneywise
02-03-2004, 03:32 AM
Please pardon the grammatical errors. I typed this up while still feeling vodka remnants.
The Vodka's worn off. Editing time!