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Happy_Camper
03-05-2004, 02:51 PM
Fish I think number one is the answer except for the patching things up part. She (Miss A) did say later that I acted like she wasnt even there when the ATF? would walk by. Truth is, if I was playing a game it was with the ATF? and Miss A was an unintended casualty.
I am pretty sure 3 is out considering what I have heard miss A say about her.
Now number 2 is questionable. I did spend a little less on her than I have on other nights, but it wasnt really me keeping her there all night. In the past with the ATF I was there to keep her company some nights and not even spend on her besides some drinks. She was there to work, I was there to hang out and if it was slow she had a friendly face to join. Miss A it seems is expecting me to spend, spend, spend everytime I am there. So I either need to explain whats up, or not go in as often. Miss A is not the hustler type, she waits for people to ask her for dances. Now sitting with me that isnt going to happen as often except her stages. The ATF and I would sit, scan the crowd, and together pick out who she should acost. I tried that with miss A and she would rather sit and talk with me (hell once someone approached her at my table and she didnt go). I have said before that I am not one who pays for talk, I only pay for dances so its not like I encouraged this behavior. I also am not going to ever tell a lovely lady to go away. they are adults (normally) and can decide if/when they need to work.
And yes my club has that rule (usually) about approaching tables that already have dancers there, but except for new girls everyone knows me and stops by all night.
Richard_Head
03-05-2004, 08:38 PM
It might be fun to somehow, maybe via body language or something, send him a non verbal message that things might not be as he believes. Gotta be careful though...supposedly hes like 6'4" and pretty built up LOL I might have to get MW to come up here and watch my back 8)
Damn FBR you like playing with fire don't you, I'd suggest you think twice about this one, who knows he could be some psychopath, not worth taking the chance IMO.
Moneywise
03-06-2004, 12:01 AM
I might have to get MW to come up here and watch my back
FBR
I would see him eye to eye and most likely outweigh him ringing in at a svelte 270ish. ;D
fishnet
03-06-2004, 11:06 AM
Most likely I will find another chick to hang out with...probably Miss R. Shes ripe for the pickins LOL Im sure Miss B will try to get me to spend money on her in an effort to show BD that she owns the club I most likely wont oblige her. I sense there could be some good drama.
FBR
FBR, there is lot's of potential here! LOL. You could take Miss B up for dances and play fucko king. If you kept her up there for a couple hours, BD might go insanely jealous and totally blow it with Miss B. On the other hand, not spending on her would help sell the message he is costing her $$$ inside the club too. One thing for sure are Miss B's lies about how well off he is will come home to roost when he doesn't spend any money. :D
SportsWriter2
03-06-2004, 11:27 AM
Fish, I agree this is an all or nothing situation, but the latter sends a more consistent message. FBR can comment to Miss B that BD looks a Mob soldier (or whatever the equivalent diss would be in his region). Miss B needs to understand that BD's presence in the club makes her less desirable.... I don't understand why BD would come inrto the club.
fishnet
03-06-2004, 03:42 PM
Acually SW2, I don't think there is anything to be gained here. Miss B made her decision a long time ago. She will continue to lie in the bed she made come hell or high water. ::) FBR will have the pleasure of demonstrating how much $$$$ she lost in the decision. Considering there are personal feelings involved, at least on FBR's part, that is small consolation. :(
HC seems to be in a similar situation in the his ATF decided she isn't going to work for his $$$$ and appears to have blown him off.
HC in your TR you said the things the ATF said came off as SS. Care to elaborate? I suspect you didn't get many replies to your questions simply because there wasn't enough info. :P
Happy_Camper
03-06-2004, 05:58 PM
HC seems to be in a similar situation in the his ATF decided she isn't going to work for his $$$$ and appears to have blown him off.
HC in your TR you said the things the ATF said came off as SS. Care to elaborate? I suspect you didn't get many replies to your questions simply because there wasn't enough info. :P
Funny thing is, I started feeling like I had too much details in the reports I had been writing.
Maybe I should go to the beginning and write up the trip. As for ATF not working for the $$$, I threw some tests (read 'games') at her and she played along. For instance, she was onstage I told her ,"If I am to believe I am still your favorite, your going to have to prove it before I take you back to VIP". So what does she do? She kisses me right there in front of everyone (and I have no idea where Miss A was, but I am sure she heard of it). So I did indeed take her to VIP and we may have talked more than she danced. I felt most everything she said was a line and insincere. I caught one thing she said as an outright lie, so I just started to assume it all was. And the dances were not as great as I remembered. Thus my entire post referred to her as ATF?, because I think I have lost the spark for her.
fishnet
03-06-2004, 06:11 PM
LOL...you didn't include any of that. ::) How much time elapsed between being kissed in public, the trip to the VIP with the old ATF and the hurt looks from Miss A started? That could explain it all. :P
BTW_ Impatiently awaiting results of FBR's private with Miss D today. FBR where are you???? LOL. ;)
Happy_Camper
03-07-2004, 02:27 AM
LOL...you didn't include any of that. ::) How much time elapsed between being kissed in public, the trip to the VIP with the old ATF and the hurt looks from Miss A started? That could explain it all. :P
There was about 15 - 20 minutes at least. The ATF? is never fast at coming back out. Miss A was on stage when we went up there. I stopped to tip her first. She thought it was funny that I would make ATF? wait for me to do that. So she didnt have the hurt feelings at that point (or didnt show it). Then while up getting dances the ATF? looked out and told me that Miss A was waiting at my table. After I came back down it was about another 10-15 minutes before Miss A came over again. At that point I got the cold shoulder.
Damn FBR you like playing with fire don't you, I'd suggest you think twice about this one, who knows he could be some psychopath, not worth taking the chance IMO.
RH, if he messes with me, I'll just whip out the plaque Mr_P awarded me and smack him upside the head. Who in their right mind would challenge the 2003 "Fuckoe Of The Year"? 8)
Seriously, I'll behave. More than anything Im just curious to see this guy. I wonder if Miss B will introduce him to me?
I would see him eye to eye and most likely outweigh him ringing in at a svelte 270ish. ;D
Thanks MW! If popping him with the plaque doesnt work, I'll just say to him "Hey BD, meet my friend, Tiny"
FBR, there is lot's of potential here! LOL. You could take Miss B up for dances and play fucko king. If you kept her up there for a couple hours, BD might go insanely jealous and totally blow it with Miss B. On the other hand, not spending on her would help sell the message he is costing her $$$ inside the club too. One thing for sure are Miss B's lies about how well off he is will come home to roost when he doesn't spend any money. :D
Fish, I agree this is an all or nothing situation, but the latter sends a more consistent message. FBR can comment to Miss B that BD looks a Mob soldier (or whatever the equivalent diss would be in his region). Miss B needs to understand that BD's presence in the club makes her less desirable.... I don't understand why BD would come inrto the club.
Acually SW2, I don't think there is anything to be gained here. Miss B made her decision a long time ago. She will continue to lie in the bed she made come hell or high water. ::) FBR will have the pleasure of demonstrating how much $$$$ she lost in the decision. Considering there are personal feelings involved, at least on FBR's part, that is small consolation. :(
Fish and SW, you guys both make great points and thus my delimma. I think both approaches would be " interesting" and to be honest, kinda fun. Miss B has to be aware of the dollars shes losing so not spending on her but instead on someone else would twist the knife a bit. Dragging her up to the LD area and drowning her in cash wouldnt be a total loss (I love her dances) but its tough on me emotionally and somehow contributing a bag of cash towards another fun weekend trip with BD doesnt blow my skirt up either. I'll probably decide at the last minutes but please feel free to throw in any more thoughts you have ;D
Oh, and one final thing. Miss D told me yesterday that Miss B found out about BD's proposed trip to the club via another dancer rather than directly from him and that Miss B is none too happy about it. Miss D is convinced the Miss B and BD are not "going together" anymore and shes just maintaining the appearance of a relationship with him for reasons unknown. I know she had been bragging a lot about all his money, boat, BMW (used but still a Beemer LOL). I found that an interesting twist which may unfold on Tuesday.
FBR
PS: Fish Im working on the TR and hope to have it posted today. It wont be substantially different than the last one so if you guys get tired of reading them or if they start seeming too repetitious let me know.
fishnet
03-07-2004, 08:58 AM
Oh, and one final thing. Miss D told me yesterday that Miss B found out about BD's proposed trip to the club via another dancer rather than directly from him and that Miss B is none too happy about it. Miss D is convinced the Miss B and BD are not "going together" anymore and shes just maintaining the appearance of a relationship with him for reasons unknown. I know she had been bragging a lot about all his money, boat, BMW (used but still a Beemer LOL). I found that an interesting twist which may unfold on Tuesday.
FBR
Given the above. I say Miss B exercises dancer perogative and flakes on the shift. LOL. :D
Moneywise
03-07-2004, 09:29 AM
After further review this belongs here.
Phone report:
So I called her tonight. She had given me the number to the pay phone in the dressing room. Another girl answered the phone. I could tell by the conversation that 3-4 girls were in there. I ask to speak to Ms. L. The girl tells me to hold on. After a minute she comes back to the phone and says "Who's this"? I give her my name and she's like HEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYYY (name) this is Ms. S.
Ms S is my ATF's closest friend and she's ultra hot. on the limited occasions I have gone when my ATF wasn't there I hit Ms S up pretty good. I've haven't taken her to the VIP yet but I can definitely see that happening one day. Anyways, Aside from some hot hot action I have no other interest in Ms S.
My ATF (OTH) captivates me in more ways than one. So Ms S goes hunting down my ATF. A minute later she's on the phone.
Hello
MW: Whasup beautiful?
Heyyyy! How have you been?
MW: Pretty good. I was just thinking about and wanted to hear your voice. (barf) :D
MW: So how are things going tonight?
Slow! I'm doing dollar dances! I never do dollar dances! I took Friday off and spent it with my kids.
MW: Just chillin?
Yep. It's slow tonight too. It's warm outside. When it gets warm things slow down a little.
MW: (In my SUV on the celly in the Taco Bell drive thru) It is soooo nice out tonight. I'm looking at that beautiful moon and can't help thinking of you. ::)
whatever. (embarassed)
MW: laughing ;D
MW: So are you going to be there on Monday.
Oh yeahhh. (eager)
MW: I can't have you doing dollar dances. I'm looking forward to seeing you.
(Ms S has been in the background shouting things I can't quite make out and my ATF keeps telling her to be quiet. (embarassed)) ???
I'm looking forward to seeing you too.
MW: I had better let you go. I wouldn't want to keep you from those dollars. ::)
Whatever. It's not like we're busy or anything. Do you have to go?
MW: Not really.
MW: Wouldn't it be nice if the two of us were out on the beach right now? (pathetic I know..lol) :o :o
Yes.
MW: I'm going to let you go because I don't want you getting in any trouble.
Ok. Well, I guess I will see you Monday.
MW: fo sho
Bye
MW: Bye beautiful. 8)
((I'll have a Fiesta Taco Salad please))
TR coming right up on Tuesday. ;D
Given the above. I say Miss B exercises dancer perogative and flakes on the shift. LOL. :D
Surprisingly, BD was the one to flake. I made a point of hitting the club at the approximate time of his presumed arrival. I talked to Miss B (up in the dance area of course :P) and she told me he had changed his plans for the evening. I think she may have had something to do with that. She told me she doesnt like it when he comes to the club. All those clever plans and strategy all for naught. As I think about it Im wondering if hes an urban legend. The only thing that makes make believe the contrary is that Miss J told me hes a "cutie" so I guess he does exist.
I was kinda bummed when I got back I was hoping for some drama. I sent Miss B an email but then a few minutes later sent Miss D one suggesting a private for this coming weekend LOL
FBR
fishnet
03-10-2004, 04:34 AM
Damn! And I had my set on the FBR "Drama" station all night last night. ::)
LMAO its funny the conversations you have with strippers. Last night I was hanging out for a while with Miss J. Shes an on again off again flockette but I guess she was on last night. We were talking and out of the blue she asked me if I would pay her $10,000 for a BJ hahahha I just looked at her in my most deadpan expression. Pretty soon the number was less than $1K LOL I didnt say yes or no but considering the privates with Miss D for less than 5 small including lunch and the hotel, Miss J has her work cut out for her.
FBR
NVJosh
03-10-2004, 06:22 PM
I love the old joke...
Man: Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?
Woman (after some deliberation): Yes, I think I would.
Man: Would you sleep with me for a hundred dollars?
Woman (immediately): NO! What sort of woman do you think I am?
Man: Oh, we've already established that. Now we're just negotiating the price.
mobius7
03-11-2004, 05:02 PM
Hey guys...my first time posting to the 'Drama' thread. I had some odd drama today, although maybe it won't seem so odd to you crusty veterans.
I've been working up the courage to call my dancer friend and ask her out for this weekend....had lunch with her yesterday, and she indicated she'd like to hang out sometime away from the club. I was planning on calling her tonight, but low and behold, my cell phone rings this afternoon, and its Ms Angel!
After a bit of chit-chat, she says "I have to ask you something." Uh oh....
"Today 'trixie' from the club called me and told me you were in getting dances from her, and bad-mouthing me. She said you don't like me and think I'm a bad dancer. Were you at the club, and did you say those things?"
What the fuck???!!!! >:( >:( >:(
I assured her that I hadn't been at the club today, and that I had never even said 'yes' to a dance from 'trixie' before. I had no clue where that came from???!!! I told Ms Angel how much I enjoyed her, and that I was sure she could tell that from our time together. She sounded relieved, and said 'trixie' is just trying to stir up trouble. At this point I asked her if she'd like to do something this weekend.
Long pause on her end...
"I'm not sure anymore. I need to figure out what this Trixie stuff is about first." FUCK FUCK
[email protected]!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
So...we said our goodbyes...and now I'm sitting at my PC steaming mad. I don't get it at all. I have never even said 'hi' to trixie before...I know who she is....I have turned her down a few times for dances, but she never seemed pissy about it. Now it seems like my dream-date may not even happen. Ms Angel seems to be doubting me...which really pisses me off. I know I need to just calm down and not act all whipped/clingy...but I want to get it all fixed now. i was really hoping to see Ms Angel this weekend.
Sigh....what the fuck?
money
03-11-2004, 05:14 PM
LMAO!!! Newbies, you gotta love em! First off, you have to understand the way dancers are. They will almost ALWAYS believe what other people say, and not what you say. You can be totally honest and sincere, but they will always believe someone else. Secondly, get used to crazy excuses. If you stay in the game long enough, you will hear and see even more fucked up shit than what just happened. Also, in the future, if you ever have anything lined up with a dancer, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY should know about it! You cannot tell anyone, and she cannot tell anyone. It is nobody's business. Trust me, I have gotten in trouble with that one by opening up my mouth. Now if I ever have anything going on, my lips are sealed. Anyhow, keep up the stories, as you are keeping me amused!
fishnet
03-11-2004, 05:19 PM
No arrangement with a dancer is ever certain until it actually happens. LOL. :D
I have to admit I've never been stood up on a playdate but that's different. There was always enough money on the table that they would have been foolish to flake. :P
SportsWriter2
03-11-2004, 05:27 PM
Mobius, we have parallel lives. Mine was almost crying when I walked in one day cuz another dancer called her and said I told some other girls she was "a fuckin whore."... Some dancers are so down they can't stand seeing other dancers happy.... See Angel in the club again. Hold her and reassure her. Trixie has probably "warned" her about you, and she probably has one friend to vouch for anything she says. Money is so right about telling NOBODY when you meet outside the club.... The communications circuits in a SC are unbelievable. I went to a club for the first time in years. The next time I walked in EVERYONE knew my name. I asked what was up with that, and a dancer told me the girl I hung out with the first time "talks about you ALL the time."... I could tell you some REAL horror stories where guys got banned from clubs by jealous dancers telling horrible lies.
NVJosh
03-11-2004, 06:09 PM
Ah....welcome to the wonderful world of DP (that's Dancer Politics for those of you without a glossary). Lord only knows why Trixie called her and told her this. My guess would be you turned down Trixie and then spent a bunch of time and money with Angel, and Trixie wants a piece of that action. So, she poisons Angel against you. Now, you go to the club, talk to Angel, she say "I don't think so!" and Trixie swoops in and says "Aw, hon, lemme take care of you." Its a cut-throat world out there...or in there, as the case may be.
Here's the good side. Its still real obvious to me that Angel likes you because she took the time to call you. If you were "just another customer", she wouldn't have cared. She would have just given you a "fuck you" the next time you saw her. However, she also works in an environment where stuff like this happens all the time, so she's a bit gunshy.
I agree with money...keep any outside contact/relationship on the QT. Don't mention it in the club, don't tell your buddies about it, don't have her tell her friends she's going out with you (unless as a standard safety precaution) and you'll find this much easier to manage.
I also agree with SW2. Go back to the club to see her. Hold her, reassure her, and I'd add, 'don't get any dances from her.' Again, youe want to show her that you care for Sue the person, not Angel the dancer. When you're done, just tell her "look, I'm going to get out of here. I know you're working and I don't want to take you away from that. We'll have plenty of time to talk later. Just call me when you're done with work today. I don't care if its 2 in the morning. I just want to talk to you when we're not in this environment."
If you really care about her, she's worth putting in special effort...and she'll definitely appreciate that you see her as more than a dancer.
Good luck and don't get angry...anger solves nothing and is a waste of energy that you could use to plan fun activities for the two of you.
Moneywise
03-11-2004, 10:55 PM
I also agree with SW2. Go back to the club to see her. Hold her, reassure her, and I'd add, 'don't get any dances from her.' Again, youe want to show her that you care for Sue the person, not Angel the dancer. When you're done, just tell her "look, I'm going to get out of here. I know you're working and I don't want to take you away from that. We'll have plenty of time to talk later. Just call me when you're done with work today. I don't care if its 2 in the morning. I just want to talk to you when we're not in this environment."
Most excellent advice SW2/NVJosh! ! !
I keep trying to do this because I want my ATF to know I care on that level but every time I go I end up taking her to the VIP.. FVCK FVCK FVCK. :-[ ;D :-[
Richard_Head
03-12-2004, 12:15 AM
Okay, let me be the pessimist, I'm kind of surprised that no has brought up the possibility that Ms Angel was making up this story about Trixie in order to give herself an "Out" for any possible out of club meeting with Mobius this weekend, with the idea of stringing him along from SC visit to SC visit, seems to be fairly standard operating procedure to me for many dancers. Of course I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but to me everything seems to leading in that direction.
fishnet
03-12-2004, 05:32 AM
That is a possibility RH. Angel had her hook set in Mobius long before this though. She didn't have to go to lunch and pick up the tab if that was the only angle. :P Somehow the DP explanation makes more sense to me.
mobius7
03-12-2004, 06:41 AM
I appreciate all of the advice guys....
I called her last night, and was kind of worried to do so, but it turned out being a good thing, I think. We talked for almost 2 hours, and she told me all sorts of stories about how things work 'inside the club' between the dancers, etc.....she told me she knows I didn't say anything like that about her, and she and I are going to go watch "lord of the rings" tonight at the late showing. (not the most romantic movie, but we're both fans). I'm trying to keep a small part of me detached, but it seems like she likes me. I'll keep you posted.
NVJosh
03-12-2004, 10:25 AM
Okay, let me be the pessimist, I'm kind of surprised that no has brought up the possibility that Ms Angel was making up this story about Trixie in order to give herself an "Out" for any possible out of club meeting with Mobius this weekend, with the idea of stringing him along from SC visit to SC visit, seems to be fairly standard operating procedure to me for many dancers. Of course I could be wrong, and I hope I am, but to me everything seems to leading in that direction.
mobius' latest post makes this kind of moot, however I was basically on fishnet's page here. Ms. Angel has done too much to make your version of things seem that likely. While I agree it definitely could have been a possibility, I'd rather he go in no the optimist side, rather than the pessimist.
And that's another reason why I suggested he basically go in on a "no dances" policy. If that's what she wants out of him, he'd find out very quickly.
NVJosh
03-12-2004, 10:35 AM
I also agree with SW2. Go back to the club to see her. Hold her, reassure her, and I'd add, 'don't get any dances from her.' Again, youe want to show her that you care for Sue the person, not Angel the dancer. When you're done, just tell her "look, I'm going to get out of here. I know you're working and I don't want to take you away from that. We'll have plenty of time to talk later. Just call me when you're done with work today. I don't care if its 2 in the morning. I just want to talk to you when we're not in this environment."
Most excellent advice SW2/NVJosh! ! !
I keep trying to do this because I want my ATF to know I care on that level but every time I go I end up taking her to the VIP.. FVCK FVCK FVCK. :-[ ;D :-[
Okay...so next time bring enough money for cover, 2 rounds of drinks, and maybe a bit to tip her for her time if need be. Leave the rest home, including checks, ATM cards and marketable securities. :P That way you won't have the VIP tempting you.
OTOH, if you always end up in VIP, maybe subconsciously you don't want anything more, or have convinced yourself she would never be interested in anything else, so why bother?
The longer you put off a convo like this, the less likely it is to happen, and the less likely you're going to get the result you want, because you'll move more and more from "potential relationship" to "ongoing source of funds."
Moneywise
03-12-2004, 10:50 PM
Okay...so next time bring enough money for cover, 2 rounds of drinks, and maybe a bit to tip her for her time if need be. Leave the rest home, including checks, ATM cards and marketable securities. :P That way you won't have the VIP tempting you.
OTOH, if you always end up in VIP, maybe subconsciously you don't want anything more, or have convinced yourself she would never be interested in anything else, so why bother?
The longer you put off a convo like this, the less likely it is to happen, and the less likely you're going to get the result you want, because you'll move more and more from "potential relationship" to "ongoing source of funds."
I always end up in VIP because I want to ravish her and have no willpower after having had a few drinks and the usual wonderful conversation. I never take more than the "cash" I plan on spending. Last Monday was my last "weekly" visit until she calls. I'll see how long it takes her to miss the $250 a week. My guess it not long at all.
She's a great girl. I'm just a big softie when it comes to taking the hard line but I see this is what I must do in order to venture into the next level. ;)
MW, your adventures are fun to read :P
Josh makes a very good point. You need to decide what you are expecting from the "relationship". Im not sure you have up this point ::) As I see it your choices are:
A) Being satisfied to have a customer/dancer relationship strictly in the club . Obviously you will continue to work and spend towards maximizing your mileage there. ;)
B) Push hard to take it outside the club but still on a money basis. Its pay per view but you are getting the cookie or some variation of that. This is the type of relationship I have with Miss D 8)
C) Develop it into a boyfriend-girfriend dating relationship. As has been stated, if this is your goal, you need to cut the money ties and stop seeing her in her club as a customer. In all likelihood, you may need to stop going to that club altogether. It will be romance not T & A :lovestruck:
Keep us posted ;D
FBR
Moneywise
03-13-2004, 08:43 AM
C) Develop it into a boyfriend-girfriend dating relationship. As has been stated, if this is your goal, you need to cut the money ties and stop seeing her in her club as a customer. In all likelihood, you may need to stop going to that club altogether. It will be romance not T & A :lovestruck:
Keep us posted ;D
FBR
Definitely C bud. I'll keep you posted. lol. You know I will. Why haven't I done this sooner? I guess simply due to the fun factor. We have so much fun drinking and chatting at the bar plus I feel as though I am not doing her any justice if I don't giv her something. As difficult as it will be I am going to take the hard line from here on out and see where it leads me.
Hold her, reassure her, and I'd add, 'don't get any dances from her.' Again, youe want to show her that you care for Sue the person, not Angel the dancer. When you're done, just tell her "look, I'm going to get out of here. I know you're working and I don't want to take you away from that. We'll have plenty of time to talk later. Just call me when you're done with work today. I don't care if its 2 in the morning. I just want to talk to you when we're not in this environment."
The next time I visit the club, which will not be until after she calls me, I will most definitely only take the money I usually spend at the bar (60-80 bones) and take this angle. I'm very interested in seeing how she reacts to it. TR or Drama report forthcoming depending on her reaction. ;D
Your opinions/comments are always much appreciated.
MW
I talked to Mr D Friday regarding our club visit. He had a blast and wound up staying about an hour after I left :D I think Ive corrupted him ::)
He was talking to me about his dances with the lady that joined us late..the friend of Miss D's. I think I have my alphabetic names screwed up. I believe this girl has been referred to as Miss N some months ago. The is also the girl who would have been part of the girl-girl that was first offered to me by Miss D. The Miss N I mentioned in my last TR was actually Miss E (I think). I once sent Fish a "Cast of Characters" PM with all the names spelled out. Maybe he still has a copy and can send it to me LOL
Sorry to digress...Im sure most of you dont give a shit anyway LOL
Well, back on topic, Mr D was telling me Miss N gave him some awesome dances full of all sorts of grinding and other frisky activities. She damn near got him off :o or so he said. He then went on to tell me that Miss N offered him a private session...no FS but some nice manual manipulation. Then she dropped the bomb by suggesting "Hey, maybe we can hook up with FBR and Miss D for a double". He about shit LOL He wasnt offended or anything just kinda blown a way.
Mr D asked me about it and I kind of blew it off saying I had heard that Miss N did some private parties on the side but didnt know for sure. Regarding Miss D, I just laughed and said "Well, if she ever did offer Id sure think long and hard about it" We both kinda chuckled over that.
I suppose my denial was convincing enough since we went back to business conversation after that. Truthfully, I dont have a huge problem with him knowing...Id just rather be the one to reveal stuff about that. Plus I know Miss D wouldnt want anyone to know. Safety wise, Ive got a hell of a lot more dirt on him than he has on me LOL Hes banging some chick in another city when he goes there on business ;)
I had lunch with Miss D Friday. This was an unusual event since she normally has lunch with her girlfriends on Fridays. Guess most of them are out of town for one reason or another so she called to invite me. We went to TGI Fridays and had a nice lunch and a few drinks. I mentioned what happened with Miss N and Mr D. She was very surprised that Miss N would proposition Mr D since she doesnt know him that well. Beyond that, though, she really didnt like Miss N dragging us into her schemes so to speak. I asked her not to pursue it with Miss N...there was really no harm done. Hopefully, she'll just let it go.
I have no idea if Mr D will take Miss N up on her offer. With what hes getting for free on his business trips (Ive seen pics of this chick..she is hot) I dont know why he'd want to spend 2.5 small for a hand job.
FBR
fishnet
03-13-2004, 08:51 AM
Didn't everyone recommend you ask her out (lunch or dinner) weeks ago MW? What happened? Did you ever ask? :P
SportsWriter2
03-13-2004, 09:30 AM
MW, your adventures are fun to read :P
Josh makes a very good point. You need to decide what you are expecting from the "relationship". Im not sure you have up this point ::) As I see it your choices are:
A) Being satisfied to have a customer/dancer relationship strictly in the club . Obviously you will continue to work and spend towards maximizing your mileage there. ;)
B) Push hard to take it outside the club but still on a money basis. Its pay per view but you are getting the cookie or some variation of that. This is the type of relationship I have with Miss D 8)
C) Develop it into a boyfriend-girfriend dating relationship. As has been stated, if this is your goal, you need to cut the money ties and stop seeing her in her club as a customer. In all likelihood, you may need to stop going to that club altogether. It will be romance not T & A :lovestruck:
Keep us posted ;D
FBR
MW, you're getting primo advice from FBR here. I would add another choice based on personal experience:
D. Take it outside the club as buddies. You just like each other for surfing, wild sex, lunch conversation, whatever. You cover costs, but no money goes to her. Some girls will NOT take money for sex.... These specialized friendships avoid all the potential incompatibles. ::)
Moneywise
03-13-2004, 10:22 AM
MW, you're getting primo advice from FBR here. I would add another choice based on personal experience:
D. Take it outside the club as buddies. You just like each other for surfing, wild sex, lunch conversation, whatever. You cover costs, but no money goes to her. Some girls will NOT take money for sex.... These specialized friendships avoid all the potential incompatibles. ::)
I like D too. ;)
She won't take money from me outside the club. I have already pursued that avenue of approach. Her response was of the "you're offending me I thought you liked me" variety without actually saying that.
I really like D though. ;D
mr_punk
03-13-2004, 10:03 PM
i meant to post this story a couple of weeks ago, but i've been swamped at work lately.
a tale of two sex workers
it was the worst of times.....
i set up a rendezvous with a stripper. the agreement was to meet for an early dinner and back to the suite for "dessert". first, some background information. i knew this stripper casually for a couple of months. initially, i put her on the back burner because while she did have a fantastic body. she never got nasty enough for my taste during the dances. as usual, i would only buy a limited amount of dances from her and only if i was in the mood to run my hands over her body. however, she always did make it a point to sit and talk with me (and try to sell dances) even though the odds of my buying a dance may be very remote depending on my mood.
anyway, i told her on more than one occasion, that she could make a lot more money from me "out of the club", rather than "inside the club". i guess stripper mentality got the better of her because she decided to ask me exactly what i meant by that remark. i had a pretty good idea of what it would take to make it worth her while and she accepted my terms. i met her downtown at a resturant and the hotel wasn't too far from the resturant. dinner went fine. she's a talker and will talk your ears off. however, i didn't mind because it gave me the chance to run through my checklist. let's see, condoms..check, lube..check, massage oils..check, blindfold..check. i like this hotel because it seems as if it was designed for this very purpose. it's located in a discreet location a couple of blocks away from a major street. the rooms have a huge mirror on the wall at the foot of the bed or the side of the bed and a smaller retangular shaped mirror which can be removed (with the help of a screwdriver) and placed on the floor ;D.
after dinner, we headed back to my suite. as usual, i stripped immediately to avoid make-up stains, stray hairs, scents, etc from contaminating my clothing. then, i removed her clothing and moved her over to the chair which i had conveniently placed in front of the mirror. after about 10 or 15 min of kissing and mutual fondling in the chair, she stops and tells me that she can't go thru with it because she felt uncomfortable with the idea of FS ,but offered to give me a HJ instead. "i understand, but that's not really necessary." "if you're uncomfortable. i rather not have you do anything at all.", i replied. so, i gathered up her clothing and handed it back to her. she kept talking and apologizing while getting dressed, but i really didn't pay much attention because "plan B" is about to be activated, just as soon as i get her out of my room.
as i was helping her with her coat, she suggested that i compensate her for the time spent. uh oh, alarm bells ringing :scared:. i said, "sure. how much do you suggest?". i'll give her this much credit. she had a pair of brass balls that must have weighed 95lb apiece. she suggested half the amount previously agreed upon :shocking:. well, one good turn deserves another and since she started to show her ass (scamming attitude), it's time for me to show this flakey broad the door. i grabbed her by the arm and walked her out of the room. "you're not going to give me anything?", she asked. "you're standing outside of my room. what do you think?" :sarcastic:, i replied as i closed the door.
it was the best of times.....
the night wasn't a total waste. a very good semi-pro FBSM worked in the area. the massage alone is almost worth the fee. in fact, i canceled my regular appointment with her for that walking nightmare. i called her up on my cell phone and explained to her that this would be a much longer appointment than usual. fortunately, she was able to accommodate me and 30 minutes later, she was in my hotel room. i told her my horror story as she worked on my back. she laughed, asked me to turn over, and told me that she was going to suck me dry...................and she did :cloud9:. 3 or 4 hours???? (i'm sure, i blacked out at one point) later she stepped over my desiccated body :faint: lying on the floor snickering as she walked out 1.2k richer.
epilogue: this isn't the first time i doubted my own sanity.
i saw her again at the club. she came over and sat down next to me. she wanted to know if i was angry at her. i asked her if i ever raised my voice at her. she said no. she then explained that she overreacted and would like to try again. i told her no. i also told her that i really can't be sure that i can trust her to keep up her end of the bargain. she asked me to buy a dance and find out. ah, nothing is quite like the arrogance of young dancer. so, i bought some dances from her and the mileage was higher than before, but not quite up to my own high standards.............yet. if she ever does reach that point, perhaps i will take her up on her offer.
aggieed
03-13-2004, 10:21 PM
Damn, I guess if you wrote yours, it's time to write mine. LOL! Time to get cracking, but mine actually had a happy ending one week after I thought all was lost. Sigh...never underestimate the power of money.
Moneywise
03-13-2004, 11:34 PM
very very interesting and entertaining story mr_punk. Of course the mileage increases when she realizes what she could have had. ::) My guess is the next time will be actual FS w/o the half stepping. You've shown her that you mean business and don't have time to play games. I wish they had FBSM here. I guess that's the price I pay for being near the beach away from the big city life. :-\
fishnet
03-14-2004, 12:23 PM
Holy crap balls Batman!!!! :o Mr. P just posted his equivalent of a TR. :) And AE is soon to follow. :o This board and these threads just keep getting better and better. ;D
mr_punk
03-14-2004, 05:30 PM
My guess is the next time will be actual FS w/o the half stepping. You've shown her that you mean business and don't have time to play games. i'm not holding my breath. she's has no problem playing with my gameboy outside of my pants inside the club. however, if she moves on to some higher mileage inside the club. i might take her seriously and make another offer.
mobius7
03-15-2004, 04:43 PM
Well...a couple of pages back I was telling you all about my interesting back and forth at the club with Ms Angel. We did meet this weekend outside the club for a 'date,' and it was a blast. We watched 'Return of the King' at a late showing....only about 5 other people there. Made out like a couple of teenagers for much of the show....sorry Peter Jackson. ;D
We went our seperate ways after the movie. She wanted to know if I'd be stopping by to see her at work today. (alarm bells going off) I know you guys told me to keep this outside the club if I wanted something real...but I did go see her at work today. I only had enough cash for 3 dances back in VIP, but she made these worth every penny. She told me to call her later tonight.
So...I did have a real date...and although I paid for her movie ticket, that is pretty normal for any real date. I did go against the advice of the junkies and bought more dances from her today....I guess I wasn't wanting to act like we were 'exclusive' or anything after only one date. She knows I'm not a rich man, and doesn't seem to mind if I don't buy many dances.
This may sound bad, but I'm a little afraid to 'take the plunge' and try to take things to the next level physically. We haven't talked about it, but it would be a natural progression at some point considering how hot and heavy we've been in VIP and more importantly, out on our date. I have a fairly limited sexual past, and I really don't want to know much about hers at this point. I'm not the jealous type, but I just prefer not knowing. I want her bad...but I'm worried about screwing things up as well, if the relationship shing is going to progress.
I guess I assume that strippers are used to HOT AWESOME SEX with guys...and I worry that I won't meet her standards, and then she won't want to see me again. Stupid of me to assume, but hey, this is a slightly different situation than I'm used to.
So....for those of you that have gotten 'personal' with dancers...should I be worried?
Had a nice conversation with Miss D today. I create drama out of nothing it seems. Guess thats why its my middle name LOL Anyways, all is good. So perhaps I'll be postponing my hiatus for a while.
FBR
fishnet
03-15-2004, 04:55 PM
I create drama out of nothing it seems. Guess thats why its my middle name LOL
FBR
LMAO!!! FBR I remember one time when Miss B didn't respond to a text message. You got your undies all twisted in a knot and were IMing about it when she called and the world was suddenly "right" again. Loving strippers is a bitch...but a helluva lot of fun. ;)
I guess I assume that strippers are used to HOT AWESOME SEX with guys...and I worry that I won't meet her standards, and then she won't want to see me again. Stupid of me to assume, but hey, this is a slightly different situation than I'm used to.
So....for those of you that have gotten 'personal' with dancers...should I be worried?
Mobius, I believe its a myth that dancers always have hot super active sex lives etc etc. Thats just the personna you are seeing in order to get you to get all horny and spend money. Again, IMO, their lives outside the club are pretty much in line with regular folks. Both Miss B and D are very hot but nothing I haven experienced before.
Im sure the ladies here can address your question better than me though.
FBR
LMAO!!! FBR I remember one time when Miss B didn't respond to a text message one time. You got your undies all twisted in a not and were IMing about it when she called and the world was suddenly "right" again. Loving strippers is a bitch...but a helluva lot of fun. ;)
Fish LMAO I went from the depths of despair to Cloud 9 during the course of a 10 minute phone conversation. And your right...lovin them is a helluva lot of fun... :P
FBR
Moneywise
03-15-2004, 05:11 PM
Loving strippers is a bitch...but a helluva lot of fun.
This had to be quoted for added emphasis. ;D ;D ;D
mr_punk
03-16-2004, 11:25 AM
I guess I assume that strippers are used to HOT AWESOME SEX with guys...and I worry that I won't meet her standards, and then she won't want to see me again. ;DFBR is correct. you really have nothing to worry about. strippers just like to project that "been there, done that" attitude. generally speaking, the quality of sex with the average stripper is on par with the average civilian. some are above average, some are below average, but the vast majority are just average. if i was looking for a woman to really clean out my pipes. a stripper wouldn't necessarily be my first choice.
NVJosh
03-16-2004, 12:16 PM
mobius - Glad you had a good date and, if you're visiting her at the club (which I still don't think is good for the long term), at least you kept the spending to a minimum. However, you were taking up her work time, so IMO spending was appropriate. Besides, you probably got her feeling all sexy so that she kicked ass the rest of the night. :)
Sounds like things are going well. Sooner or later (and I'd recommend sooner) when she says "Are you going to come see me at the club", you have to tell her "No, I just want to see you outside the club from now on." The longer you draw that out, the tougher it gets, and like moneywise, the more danger you're in of just becoming a regular customer.
For the sex aspect, I totally agree with mr_p. And again, treat her like a normal person relationship-wise, not a stripper. Take things as they come and don't assume "She's going to want to have sex on the next date because she's a stripper" or "She's had hundreds of lovers because she's a stripper" or "she thinks all men are jerks because she's a stripper" or anything. Just take it as it comes, don't assume anything and all should work out great.
SportsWriter2
03-16-2004, 02:24 PM
Most of the dancers I know have no BF or a BF who gets off too soon. All you have to do is care about what turns them on, cuz no one else does.
LapOfLuxury
03-16-2004, 06:27 PM
Loving strippers is a bitch...but a helluva lot of fun. ;)
Ack. Love is a helluva lot of fun only if it's mutual. Falling unilaterally in love with someone, stripper or non-stripper, is a bad and masochistic thing to do.
High Roller
03-18-2004, 08:20 AM
Those who have been on the board a long time know from my earliest reports that I was struggling with the decision to retire last year. First I was going to quit clubbing after the ATF did a photo shoot and went to dinner with me. Then I was going to quit when she moved to Vegas. Then I met HG and thoughts of retirement disappeared. ;D Last month my streak of 27 months with 2 or more visits came to an end. :( There have been some changes and I probably won’t hit a club again for 2 months. Then again this may really be retirement. If I can stay away 3 months, I might actually kick the habit. Soooo 3 days ago I wrote a “Dear HG” letter. I told her it looked like Valentine’s Day was my retirement party and I didn’t know when or if I would ever be back to the club. I signed off in a manner that indicated I didn’t expect to hear from her and I wouldn’t be writing again. I didn’t say those things though. Lo and behold… last night she wrote back with an e-mail 3 times longer than usual. :D She said she wanted to keep in touch even though I was in “retirement” and to keep writing her. An hour later she sent a 2nd e-mail with a picture of her new puppy. LOL. I always told you guys she was great with the SS. It will be interesting to see how long she “keeps in touch” with no money in the equation.