View Full Version : hallelujah! why extras exist and why they will never die
LauraLove
04-08-2004, 12:52 PM
It is pretty clear that Mr. Punk is the epitome of MALIGNANT NARCISSISM and MYSOGYNY
Doesn't this sound like Mr. Punk?
1. Lack of empathy, or the existence of functional empathy, or empathy by proxy.
2. A feeling that he deserves everything ("entitlement").
3. Exploitation of objects.
4. Objectification/symbolisation
5. Manipulative behaviours (Using personal charm, ability to psychologically penetrate the object, ruthlessness, and knowledge and information regarding the object obtained,
largely, by interacting with the object).
6. Intellectualisation through generalisation, differentiation and categorisation of objects.
7. Feelings of omnipotence and omniscience
That comes directly out my Psych course textbook ! It should be said also that people like that are prone to violence particularly domestic violence and in extreem cases- rape :yikes:
Makes me wonder if domestic abuse charges have ever been filed against Mr. Punk during any of his many divorces ?
polecat
04-08-2004, 01:38 PM
I have to agree on all counts, Laura.. as the previous posts are proof enough.
I'd also add he has strong tendency towards denial- which he illustrates through unconnected diatribes (i.e. maintaining a self-titled "risk-taker" stance while describing preferred activities that suggest the other, while also having to create fictional and false depictions of other's "conclusions" or "opinion" without any substantiation or backing).
So if you add denial with strong examples of delusion, you pretty much have the guy nailed.
mr_punk
04-08-2004, 01:43 PM
ok, ive really stopped reading this thread. for a like the past 15 to the last 8 posts ive only read the quotes that punk quotes and his replies. from the last 8 on, i just skipped completely.that's okay sandy. i know you mean well. in any case, you did a pretty good job.
nobody is forcing these girls to do anything they dont want to. if they dont want his money, they can not dance for him and focus their attention elsewhere.sure. futhermore,the idea behind my original post was that:
A) the sc industry will continue to attract strippers that may have "unsuitable traits". if people like PC or Bridgette considers extras to be an "unsuitable trait"...fine. however, those strippers continue to work and flock towards the industry.
B) the sc industry really isn't too concerned (due to other reasons) about the type of dancer they attract. as long as she has a pulse and can pay the stage fees and tip-outs.
i was hoping to hear some realistic and practical solutions from the other side. instead, all i got was this:
PC Solution: place the onus on the customer as well as the dancer or he shouldn't ask for mileage. a nice egalitarian idea, but not very realistic. however, i don't see it happening anytime soon.
Bridgette's solution: customers shouldn't expect mileage. a bit pie-in-the sky for my taste. also not a very practical solution. IMHO, the demand for mileage hasn't decreased over the years.
LauraLove
04-08-2004, 02:31 PM
Wow- this is great !The internet is a fantastic source of peoples mental and emotional issues, makes for great case study ;D ;) ;D Here are some quick examples of Mr. Punk fitting the list on malignant narrcisism and mysogyny.
Lack of empathy, or the existence of functional empathy, or empathy by proxy.
well, cry me a river...if i believed that strippers actually took larger risks than myself or others, perhaps i would be more sympathic. if i sound callous or cruel....good.
if they want to be "legal" and don't want to be exposed to risk then get out of the industry.
A feeling that he deserves everything ("entitlement").
for example, take a two way contact club. where you can touch everything, but the kitty. is it a high mileage dance? very high, compared to an air dance. still, i consider the mileage to be average by the club's standard. for me, the mileage has to be higher than the club's standard.
Intellectualisation through generalisation, differentiation and categorisation of objects.
i'm not making a special exception for sc. feel free to do so if you wish. to me, it's all one big sex industry and they're all sex workers and they all take risk.
polecat
04-08-2004, 02:34 PM
A) the sc industry will continue to attract strippers that may have "unsuitable traits". if people like PC or Bridgette considers extras to be an "unsuitable trait"...fine. however, those strippers continue to work and flock towards the industry.
A fine example of delusional displacement and denial.
PC Solution: place the onus on the customer as well as the dancer or he shouldn't ask for mileage. a nice egalitarian idea, but not very realistic. however, i don't see it happening anytime soon.
And yet another.
As mr_punk would be hard-pressed to find anything in any post even closely suggesting extras as "unsuitable traits", and moreover even the slightest hint of onus on customer and dancer, this concludes this lesson in pointing out individuals that live in their own delusional fantasy world that requires elementary-school level displacement and self-denial.
No progress or communication can hoped to be achieved with such individuals since they will just continue to pull out delusional and unsubstantiated stances and force them upon people with no such prior declarations or inclinations. It's a requirement for their superiority complex as it helps them maintain a self-feeling of omnipotence, while everyone else around them scratches their head puzzled and shrugs.
Honestly, most people grow out of this by the time they get out of high-school.
LauraLove
04-08-2004, 02:55 PM
i was hoping to hear some realistic and practical solutions from the other side. instead, all i got was this:
Somehow I doubt there's any truth in that statement , but what the hell :)
Here is a solution for you.
Stop seeking your extras in stripclubs.
Stick to the situations like brothels and escort agencies. Your risk of not getting what you ordered doesn't justify you putting countless dancers, who have not agreed to you getting extras, at risk too just so you can get your rocks off. :irked:
In all your so called reasoning of why a stripclub is better suited than say the escort scenerio the only people who were at risk were you ( the buyer) and the provider. In the stripclub scenerio you and the provider putEVERYONE in the building at risk. That is just so cracked :crazy:
None of those people agreed to you getting your "extra" .
Your saying that those people just being in the industry requires those people to accept the legal risk in prostitution, well that is completely lacking in logic.
If we wanted to accept and take that particualr risk, we would be prostitutes and not exotic dancers.
Katrine
04-08-2004, 03:08 PM
Is that really a practical solution though Laura? Punkie is by far NOT the only man seeking extras in the club. Even if some SW angel converted him, there are more guys who are less honest about their intentions but far more sinister in their actions waiting to whip it out in front of the next girl....
My only recommendation is what I do to avoid extras; if they whip it out or make me an offer, humiliate them and make them feel stupid for asking. A) They will get more dances and tip out of guilt, then find a girl who will B) They will make a big stink about it but it gets them out of your hair...
Yes, I do feel the brunt of the responsibility belongs to the woman, just like birth control should be the responsiblity of the woman. We have more to lose and I don't see that system changing from a sex/strip industry standpoint as long as their are enough taboos and moral outrage to keep my business BOOMING!!!!
Roarrrrrrrrrrrrr!!! Bring on the fuckers, its like bowling and the raincoaters are my pins!!!
Chuck149
04-08-2004, 03:20 PM
Well folks, I think this thread is has lost it's way. Let's move on.
Chuck