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Nicolina
03-31-2005, 10:34 PM
Based on my own experience in the sex industry, I have to disagree with you, Jenny. I've run into a LOT of guys who seem far too socially inept to be able to maintain a real relationship, and they use the industry to fill this void in their lives. I've also run into some guys who were disfigured by childhood illness (e.g. extensive heart surgery) or accidents and have a hard time finding a sexual outlet. It's not that they're "too ugly to find a girlfriend," exactly, but more that they're too self-conscious to go out looking.

Hell, I myself am apparently too ugly to get laid::) ....It's true. It's been a long dry spell and I'm thisclose to calling a male escort myself :O

Jenny
04-01-2005, 06:44 AM
Well, I've certainly met a lot of guys that I wouldn't go out with. But I'm sure that someone, somewhere is similarly ugly/disfigured/shy/inept and that they could be very happy together. If you do call an escort, let me know. I always wanted to, just so I could say that I had done it - you know experience the other side. I'm not an escort, personally, but you get my meaning.

Katrine
04-01-2005, 06:56 AM
A dear friend of mine from undergrad is super unattractive, shy, and socially inept. It tooks him months to even be able to talk to me in the computer lab at the dorms where he was a proctor.

He's 29 now and finally has gotten his first date and first kiss from an equally shy Romanian girl. I'm not sure of her looks. The poor boy is super homely in a Rick Moranis "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" way.


There is hope.

Jenny
04-01-2005, 07:24 AM
My boyfriend from high school was really ugly. Like so that people actually looked at us when we were affectionate in public (I'm talking about the hand holding kind of affectionate, not the blowjob kind of affectionate). But I adored him, we went out for two years (which, as you know, in high school is practically a lifetime commitment). Of course, now he's a transgendered lesbian woman, but we are still good friends.

gdamadg
04-01-2005, 08:05 AM
Hell, I myself am apparently too ugly to get laidimages/smilies/rolleyes.gif ....It's true. It's been a long dry spell and I'm thisclose to calling a male escort myself images/smilies/shocked.gif


I have yet to go as far as to pay for it. But there has been thoughts. I am not a totally unattractive person, and I don't seem to have a problem meeting girls.

But sometimes you just go through dry spells, or strings of bad relationships, and you just want the sex. :P lol

And paying for a no strings fling, with someone who should know what they are doing, is a lot cheaper than what you might have to go through trying to meet someone.

LilSweetVixen
04-01-2005, 09:43 AM
LSV, guys always pay in cash. He paid her, but when she asked for an additional big loan, he said his checkbook was in his car, and left to avoid dealing with her. They start to plead and cry. It's a real downer that negates all the fun you just had. :-[

ohh I see. that sucks:-\

LilSweetVixen
04-01-2005, 09:46 AM
I don't think they're all bums, I think some guys buy it because it's hard to find and they're horny. They could live in the middle of nowhere. And they have a fantasy girl they want to be with.

Nicolina
04-01-2005, 02:55 PM
Jenny, I've dated a couple of ugly guys, too. Good looks are nice, but not a first priority. Plus, the ugly guys try harder..... A stripper I once knew told a good story about this:

I knew her in the late 1980's, but she was in her early fifties and had been around since the days of real burlesque. I think she'd also worked the Combat Zone in the seventies. She was a tall redhead with a pioneering torpedo-style boob job...

She said there was a customer who kept offering her money for OTC activities. She continually refused, mostly because he was extraordinarily ugly. The price rose until he offered her a grand and she relented. "And do you know," she said, "I almost gave him that money back? It was the BEST SEX I had ever had in my LIFE. And after that, I HAUNTED him. I would not leave him alone. I followed him around BEGGING for it."
So take heart, you homely guys :) ...And work on those skills... ;)

Chicagoeditor
04-01-2005, 10:28 PM
So take heart, you homely guys :) ...And work on those skills... ;)

Me, my hunchback and my club foot thank you for this inspiring story, Nic.

Sh0t
04-02-2005, 08:01 AM
I don't find it very inspiring for them because without the initial expenditure of a grand, he would have never gotten into bed with her.

As the story says, she refused him until he offered the right amount of cash. She found out he was good in bed AFTER he had to shell out 1000 bucks. So, as I see it, the moral of the story is: If you are ugly, offer plenty of dough until maybe the chick will sleep with you, then possibly you might be good enough in bed that she will give you your money back...except she didn't.

He should have spent his money on some golf clubs and a olympic weight set and took out his sexual frustation on golf balls and weights.

There is no such thing as thousand dollar pussy*, only thousand dollar idiots.




*Women are priceless as individuals and as mates, but the sheer physical act of sex in my view isn't worth that

SportsWriter2
04-02-2005, 08:35 AM
As the story says, she refused him until he offered the right amount of cash. She found out he was good in bed AFTER he had to shell out 1000 bucks. So, as I see it, the moral of the story is: If you are ugly, offer plenty of dough until maybe the chick will sleep with you, then possibly you might be good enough in bed that she will give you your money back...except she didn't.
He should have offered her $1000 minus $100 every time she had an orgasm. I'll bet he amortized the grand over at least 10 sessions, so he ended up with a "fun friend" rate overall. Trust me, that is the least expensive way to go. :)

Even if you start with a "fun friend" rate, you still need a giveback for coming or they never learn to crank up higher. :-\

Nicolina
04-02-2005, 09:18 AM
I don't find it very inspiring for them because without the initial expenditure of a grand, he would have never gotten into bed with her.



But Sh0t, this is a thread on why guys buy sex, and the happy part of the story is that once he spent the grand, she wanted to play again, presumably for free, or at least a greatly reduced rate....

I'm surprised to hear you balk at the figure. From what I've read on these boards, it's not all that uncommon for some of you to drop close to a grand just on a night out at the SC (I admit I was pretty shocked to learn this. I'd have milked you guys much more aggressively if I'd known! :P)

Also, my initial point was that guys who aren't so handsome try harder...and some girls have figured this out :)

gdamadg
04-02-2005, 05:44 PM
In one way or another, we all end up paying for sex. Just not directly.

mr_punk
04-02-2005, 09:30 PM
Based on my own experience in the sex industry, I have to disagree with you, Jenny. I've run into a LOT of guys who seem far too socially inept to be able to maintain a real relationship, and they use the industry to fill this void in their lives.but isn't your experience totally based inside a sc? true, you probably have a larger number of socially inept PLs in a sc. however, it's unlikely your socially inept PL is a large part of the sex buying crowd. if he's too scared to even ask a stripper out. how is he going to muster up enough courage to get an escort?


Actually this is entirely untrue - although paying for sex is the simplest, easiest quickest way for ANYONE to have sex, nobody is too ugly to get a girlfriend - and I'm sure I don't have to say that nobody is too handicapped. (Shaw actually said this when talking about Pygmalion - that the really interesting attractive people are always single, and that nobody was too ugly or unpleasant to get married).she's right or rather shaw is correct. you don't have to be good looking to get married or date. there are plenty of men married to or dating unattractive women and vice versa.


He should have spent his money on some golf clubs and a olympic weight set and took out his sexual frustation on golf balls and weights. There is no such thing as thousand dollar pussy*, only thousand dollar idiots. *Women are priceless as individuals and as mates, but the sheer physical act of sex in my view isn't worth thatwell, there you have it. if you don't think it's worth it, then it probably isn't worth it. however, you're comparing apples and oranges. it's like a someone thinking that a customer paying a stripper to sit on his balls is a waste of money because you're paying her to pretend to like you.

Nicolina
04-02-2005, 10:11 PM
but isn't your experience totally based inside a sc?

As a matter of fact....no.

mr_punk
04-02-2005, 10:39 PM
As a matter of fact....no.well, that was an enlightening answer.

Nicolina
04-03-2005, 01:11 AM
hey, you asked a question and I answered it.

I don't think it's any more difficult for a socially inept guy to walk into a massage parlor or call an escort service than it is for him to make a stripclub his second home (as I've seen many do.) In fact, the SC is the more social (and therefore perhaps the more intimidating) environment. Dancers who are hit-and-run hustlers have no time for needy PLs; in general, because of the briskness of business, strippers don't have to waste their time with customers who make them uncomfortable (as I'm sure you may have noticed.)

However, when the same PL walks into a massage parlor, the chances are that whatever girl he chooses won't refuse to service him just because he seems to lack social skills.

In my experience, I don't think there's a huge difference in the demographics of the customer base for strippers vs. prostitutes (especially not where you're concerned, mr. punk, since you seem to treat SCs as whorehouses whenever possible.) If anything, I'd say your average SC customer is more "normal" and well-adjusted than your average john. (Very unequal sample sizes, though.)

yoda57us
04-03-2005, 06:32 AM
Yes, there are some socialy inept men out there , but in this day and age, you'd have to be a troll not to be able to find SOME woman in a club, a church group or a poker game who will go home with you. The vast majority of men who pay for sex are doing it as an extracuricular activity away from a spouse or SO. They may not be Mr. America types but they are getting laid for free on a regular basis. Any working escort will confirm this. If you read escort listings, many of them actualy prefer married men as they know that they will cause less drama. Just as with strip clubs, often the best customers are married men.

mr_punk
04-03-2005, 02:11 PM
I don't think it's any more difficult for a socially inept guy to walk into a massage parlor or call an escort service than it is for him to make a stripclub his second home (as I've seen many do.)so, you worked in a massage parlor? yeah, but you're missing a couple of important points. a massage parlor or a sc are legal businesses and anonymous places. an escort service is not and that's a serious impediment for any person.

In fact, the SC is the more social (and therefore perhaps the more intimidating) environment.and that social environment is merely a facade to the real business of grinding dicks. it's only intimidating to those who are socially inept in the first place.

However, when the same PL walks into a massage parlor, the chances are that whatever girl he chooses won't refuse to service him just because he seems to lack social skills.and that same PL doesn't need social skills to get a dance in a sc. he doesn't need to talk. a stripper will do enough talking for the both of them. all he needs is some money.

Dancers who are hit-and-run hustlers have no time for needy PLs; in general, because of the briskness of business, strippers don't have to waste their time with customers who make them uncomfortable (as I'm sure you may have noticed.)any dancer will sit, listen and hold a customer's hand all night and listen to his tales of woe if the money is right.

(especially not where you're concerned, mr. punk, since you seem to treat SCs as whorehouses whenever possible.)i never considered them whorehouses. OTOH, cock-grinding emporium is a more apt description or would you prefer more euphemistic terms like "entertainment" or "dancing"?

Yes, there are some socialy inept men out there , but in this day and age, you'd have to be a troll not to be able to find SOME woman in a club, a church group or a poker game who will go home with you. The vast majority of men who pay for sex are doing it as an extracuricular activity away from a spouse or SO.sure, you don't need to be good looking or super suave to date or get married. however, if a guy is strictly using a sc to interact with women because he is socially inept. going to a sc isn't going to help him to be less socially inept. in reality, it's an impediment. most men who see a sex workers (i'm including strippers in this group) use them as a supplement because they can provide the one thing that one woman cannot provide. a man's appetite for variety.

Sh0t
04-03-2005, 02:17 PM
that social environment is merely a facade to the real business of grinding dicks.

Very eloquent



a stripper will do enough talking for the both of them

Another gem

yoda57us
04-04-2005, 12:44 PM
most men who see a sex workers (i'm including strippers in this group) use them as a supplement because they can provide the one thing that one woman cannot provide. a man's appetite for variety.

This is exactly my point. Be it SC, Massage Parlor or Escort Service. The inept fraidy cats and the nerdy basement dwellers are certainly part of the equation. However,normal, well adjusted guys who are somehow attached and simply want some trouble-free variety on the side are the largest demographic when it comes to paying for sex. Smart providers know this and most of the ones I've met prefer it.

DrJM
06-08-2005, 02:09 PM
It all really depends on the man....sometimes its the only way men can get sex, they justify spending money by saying that all women are prostitutes in a way since you spend money on them....they rationalize their actions by stating that they want sex without emotional attachments...etc.

I think in reality it has to do with a feeling that a certain trait is lacking, and that the lack of this trait prohibits them from being able to acquire sex the old fashioned way.

For a lot of men, it has to do with control issues....buying a woman, using her....its not exactly a healthy thing to do....

Personally, I think there are too many easy people in the world to have to worry about paying for it.

Gendai73
06-09-2005, 02:50 PM
because it's available

Derek
08-06-2005, 02:24 PM
I like fucking strippers - I pay them to fuck with me OTC. I am 40+ and 20 something gals are not interested in me unless I pay for it. 30 somethings hard to get too. High pct of men Houston makes it tough.

Strippers are very inexpensive compared to a regular GF anyway.

It is more convienent just to pay for it than runing the gamut of the dating game thing anyhowl. Sort of like would u rather just go thru a fast food drive thru or wait a long time at an expensive restaurant.

LemonLime
08-09-2005, 08:55 PM
Pick up lines for you know what that I've gotten at work.

1.
Guy: Can you bake me like you baked that cake?

Me: I’ll bake your mother.

Guy: What do you mean by that!? (Actually angry.)

2.
And Finally, just last night I got:

Guy: Inever get dances. Can I get your number? Or you want to come by my place.

Me: Look buddy, I’m not going to fuck you.

Guy: (self righteous) Who said anything about fucking? Maybe I just wanted to TALK and have some coffee. (then he made this ridiculous “upset” face.

(It was 3:30 AM)

The solution:

Nothing. If you’re a human yawn there is little you can do in a five-minute conversation while “Shock The Monkey” is playing. Go home and shock your monkey.

All Good Things
08-10-2005, 07:13 AM
^ 10 posts and I already love you.

I'm sure I'm not the only one.....

MinahSky
08-10-2005, 11:04 AM
Just take a look at my signature...

pet_rock
08-10-2005, 11:38 AM
Um, I guess it was you who responded when I said I thought it was Clark Gable who said it first?

Googling "pay her to leave" (as an exact phrase) turns up our own SW in the top ten results, but also attributes it to Chef from South Park, author Dashiell Hammet, Hemingway, Charlie Sheen, Clark Gable and mostly unknown...

Now I'm pretty old and I definitely heard it before Charlie Sheen was around, so he was quoting an old-timer when he said it--I'm just not sure who.

Anyway, I agree with the sentiment expressed therein no matter who said it first!

SportsWriter2
08-11-2005, 12:08 PM
Sometimes they don't leave (8/11 Philadelphia Inquirer):



Man feels 'awful' about girl's death

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David F. Downey does not feel responsible for the death of Ashley Burg, his attorney says.
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By Keith Herbert and Larry King
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Inquirer Staff Writers
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By David F. Downey's account, he is an innocent who did nothing wrong and feels "awful" about the death of a teenager he hired from a Philadelphia escort service.

The Montgomery County businessman entangled in the investigation into the death of 17-year-old Ashley Burg said that he thought the girl was 22 years old and that he never had sex with her.

Burg's body, clothed only in underwear, was found Aug. 1 along Old Red Lion Road in Northeast Philadelphia. The cause of her death has not been determined, though a preliminary drug screening found the presence of cocaine in her body.

The day before, the teen had been dropped off at Downey's home shortly after midnight.

"He's not doing well," his attorney, Thomas C. Egan III, said of Downey, 52, whose Limerick Township home was searched this week by investigators.

Egan said Downey did hire women from escort services, but "purely for companionship," not for prostitution. Downey does not feel responsible for Burg's death, because he had nothing to do with it, Egan said.

Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce L. Castor Jr. said yesterday that it could be weeks before he decides whether to file criminal charges in the case. Castor is awaiting toxicology reports and analyses of any evidence removed from Downey's home.

A technology consultant, Downey has cultivated a reputation as a well-connected, blunt critic of complex bureaucracies and politics that, in his view, harm many large organizations.

This year, he joined the consulting firm KSR Associates L.L.C., a group of former corporate officers who advise private companies and government agencies on business strategies in the mid-Atlantic states.

Burg, whose parents divorced when she was young, lived with her aunt and uncle in Willingboro, Burlington County, while attending Burlington County Institute of Technology, a vocational school. She would have been a junior in the fall.

Her aunt and uncle, Pam and Frank Schreiber, have declined to discuss Burg. Friends and relatives have said she went to live in New Jersey so she could improve her declining school performance in Philadelphia.

It is unknown how Burg became connected with the escort service that Downey called.

Investigators searched his house on Tuesday, seeking items such as illegal drugs, drug paraphernalia, financial documents and telephone records, according to a probable-cause affidavit.

According to Egan, the search found no drugs.

Castor said police did seize bank and telephone records, as well as a couch cushion bearing a star pattern. Burg's autopsy revealed a star-patterned impression on one of her legs, and Castor said it might help investigators determine her approximate time of death.

Downey has told police that Burg arrived at his house shortly after midnight July 31 after he contacted a woman identified by police as Kim Victorine. She is described in the affidavit as a go-go dancer at Tattle Tales South, a bar in Port Richmond.

Burg became severely ill, Downey said, and went to sleep for almost 24 hours. At 1 the next morning, Downey called the escort service to send someone to get her.

He said that when two people arrived, he paid them $2,000 to get her medical care, according to the affidavit, and $600 to pay off an unspecified debt.

Downey said Burg was alive when she left the house.

But a woman who helped dispose of Burg's body told police that the teen was already dead. Christine Shute, identified as an employee of Tattle Tales South, said she found the teen lying in her panties on Downey's couch, blood coming from her nose, the affidavit says.

The affidavit says Downey frequented the bar at 3182 Richmond St. The property is owned by former Philadelphia Police Officer Richard Jumper, who was acquitted in 1989 in a federal police-corruption case in which Jumper and other members of an elite narcotics unit known as Five Squad were accused of conspiring to steal money from drug dealers during searches.

Jumper declined to comment yesterday. The manager at Tattle Tales South is James Cattalo, another former Five Squad member, who was convicted in the case.

Shute said that she and her companion, Mike Tees, got lost trying to find a hospital after leaving Downey's house. They finally drove to Philadelphia and disposed of the body.

Victorine, Shute and Tees could not be located by The Inquirer.

Philadelphia court records show that Victorine, 22, has 2004 convictions for simple assault, burglary, theft, criminal mischief, recklessly endangering another person, and conspiracy. She is on probation.

Shute, 21, was placed in a first-time-offenders program last year after pleading guilty to drug possession.

Their current addresses could not be obtained.

Downey, meanwhile, is a college graduate who moved into his three-bedroom, $480,000 house last year. He has been divorced since the mid-1990s, and has children who live with his ex-wife.

Downey attended Temple University, and his resume lists a master's in economics from Temple and further studies at the University of Pennsylvania and Massachusetts Institute of Technology during his consulting career.

A spokesman for Temple said that school records were incomplete, and could not say whether Downey received a degree.

Since joining KSR, Downey's resume says, he has helped the Department of Homeland Security analyze immigrant-processing and cargo-handling systems. A call to the agency was not immediately returned.

GiselleQ
08-11-2005, 06:33 PM
From personal experience, most people in prostitution which I have known (inlcuding myself at that time) used coke.
Seems to me that majority of the clients and the girls who provide the service are on coke.

I know you can make real good money doing this, but the bad part of it are the uncertainty, the paranoia, and the flaccid sex involved.

I feel sorry for that girl, but sounds like she was at the wrong place, wrong time.

Only other thing I can add is that there by the grace of God, go I.

I came close to dying by cocaine overdose twice. Would have thought the first time was enough. No it wasn't.

Katrine
08-11-2005, 07:05 PM
That poor girl. Nice fucking article. I could give a shit where the john went to college or that he works for Homeland Security. Everyone will have an excuse and just get off so they can forget about the poor dumb slut. Awful, just disguisting. He let her die on his couch of an overdose and the others just dumped her body on a road. I feel sick.

SportsWriter2
08-12-2005, 07:36 AM
I know you can make real good money doing this, but the bad part of it are the uncertainty, the paranoia, and the flaccid sex involved.


I'm glad you made it out alive. Thanks for sharing your insight.

GiselleQ
08-13-2005, 07:21 AM
Some notes on being an escort model.

What to do first after ariving at the John's.

The second you get to the guy's house or hotel, it's a good rule of thumb to (after asking permission) get right down to just a thong. I do this right away because if you wait until he asks you, he might rip you off by telling the agency that he's not going to pay because you kept your J. Lo tracksuit on for the first hour and smoked menthols while nursing a cider and didn't even look at his manhood

DEODORANT
Strippers and prostitutes (and fags, for some reason) all know this secret way to prevent ingrown hairs after you shave your swimsuit area. It's simple and cheap and it never fails. Put deodorant on it. I think there's something about the alcohol in the deodorant that opens the pores wide enough that the hairs can't ingrow. It's the same principle behind that really expensive Tend Skin shit, but deodorant works about 80 times better.


ESCORT AGENCIES
You'll notice escorts who work with an agency are a lot more patient than streetwalkers. Escorts are there for the full hour whether you get a boner or not. Streetwalkers, on the other hand, have a real live pimp, and he wants his money 15 minutes ago. If a john doesn't get it up with a streetwalker right away, he's dead.

RETURNS ON BEING AN ESCORT.
These are great. If the guy sends you back you make $40 without doing anything. All you have to do is pay the driver $10 to enforce the $50 minimum, and that's it. You're back in the car with your money and you didn't even take your jacket off.

DIGRESSION

GANG BANGS
Women in prostituion never get asked to do gang bangs because most guys think it's too faggy. The only place you will ever see gang bangs is in porn. I don't know much about it because I'm a whore and we don't watch porn. It's like you watching a movie about sitting at your desk.

MASSAGE PARLORS
Massage parlors will tell you in your interview that you don't have to do anything you don't want to and you can just jerk them off with a glove if you're grossed out.
What they don't mention is, that means you'll go home penniless. The money you make is all about what you can negotiate for yourself after the massage.
First, dude pays the agency around 40 dollars for the massage, which lasts 30 minutes to an hour. Then, after he's all "comfers cozers," you become a free agent and get to make your own money negotiating HJ and BJ prices.
The wage will be the average between how desperate you both are. Most places have a 3-2-1 plan, which means $300 for intercourse, $200 for a BJ, and $100 for a HJ, but those prices all go down the tubes when some other dumb girl does rear end action for $80.

HOW DID I GET INTO THIS?
Well, not by voluntary choice. Became a ballerina, first. Then I became this.
It is a long boring story.
Psychologists will tell you that it began as a result to some child hood traumatic experience.
Second-wave feminists like Andrea Dworkin and Catherine MacKinnon made up this cruel stereotype that everyone in the sex industry got molested by their kinfolk. I am not going into my little tale, but heck, statistics on incest are hard to gauge, but when you look at the number of women in the industry today and consider the fact that they ALL got molested, it kind of makes your stomach turn.
I guess that's why we can lie underneath someone who has no business being on top of us and not give a damn.
Oh well, my input. Thanks.

SportsWriter2
08-13-2005, 10:58 AM
Another gem, GQ. :)

We often make the distinction between streetwalkers and escorts, but rarely go beyond that. What about the single mom/nurse who has arrangements with a guy she met socially? Or two guys, neither of whom is aware of the other?

The Wikipedia article on prostitution suggests that a dinner date followed by sex might fit the definition of prostitution (en.wikipedia.org). It's a matter of context and intent. I once heard a girl in the next apartment tell her friend, "I'm not a whore. I don't sleep with guys I don't know."

Some dancers ask, "Why don't you guys just hire an escort?" There's something to be said for getting to know someone and understand her reasons first. :)

MinahSky
08-13-2005, 12:22 PM
What happened to that poor young lady could have happened to anyone, regardless of age, occupation, race, etc.

FBR
08-13-2005, 12:53 PM
Some dancers ask, "Why don't you guys just hire an escort?" There's something to be said for getting to know someone and understand her reasons first. :)

And an escort, even if she takes her watch off and lays it on the nightstand, still keeps an eye on it ;)

FBR

GiselleQ
08-13-2005, 01:46 PM
Escorts and Bachelor's Parties.

Hey, bachelor parties are the cash cow of whoring, but they're real scary.
Men have a tendency to try to outdo each other, so if you start the night with a BJ and cum in your eye, your last trip to the hotel bathroom will involve something along the lines of getting fucked in the butt without any lube while the guy pours shampoo in your eyes.
It may be bad, but it s darn worth it, though, because they usually only last for one to five hours and you can make $6,000 pure profit.

SportsWriter2
08-14-2005, 09:00 AM
Escorts and Bachelor's Parties.

Hey, bachelor parties are the cash cow of whoring, but they're real scary.
Men have a tendency to try to outdo each other, so if you start the night with a BJ and cum in your eye, your last trip to the hotel bathroom will involve something along the lines of getting fucked in the butt without any lube while the guy pours shampoo in your eyes.

I had a friend who would hire the talent, usually two girls. He'd buy cheap towels and face cloths, two different colors not to be confused with hotel towels, and give them to the girls when their eyes started to sting. Nice guy. They always took care of him for free. :)

Sectumsempra
08-14-2005, 02:08 PM
Another reason to add to the list:

Your type is out of your league.

kassyS
08-14-2005, 03:02 PM
Walk up to an attractive stranger way out of your league and buy her a drink.
You always wanted to do it.
You’ve enviously watched your smooth friends do it. Now it’s your turn.
The fear is nowhere proportionate to the risk to your ego (she’s out of your league, remember?), yet it still requires a certain amount of courage.
It’s akin to sticking your hand down into the garbage disposal. The thing isn’t going to turn on by itself, but still...it might.
Whether you pay for it or not, it is still the same damn thing.

yoda57us
08-14-2005, 05:31 PM
Whether you pay for it or not, it is still the same damn thing.

How do you figure that?

If you pay a woman for sex it's only happening because you paid her. It may feel good-maybe even for her- but she wouldn't be there if you hadn't called her agency.

kassyS
08-14-2005, 07:44 PM
If getting laid is the object and you want it, you can go to a singles bar and may get lucky.
Or like you say, call the agency and make an appointment and this time you luck will be damned assured, it would be certain.
Either way you get laid, and so, it is the same thing.
The only difference is that one is more certain than the other. That is all.

yoda57us
08-14-2005, 07:54 PM
Well yeah, thats the only difference but it's a huge difference. Paying for sex-weather it's because you are a troll or because you have an SO and just want some NSA strange pussy is a whole lot different than going out and actually trying to charm the pants off of another human being. Though the resulting orgasm may feel the same for ten or fifteen seconds, there is something to be said for the emotional context of doing it the old fashioned way.;)

kassyS
08-14-2005, 08:26 PM
Yes, if one goes to a single bar for the purpose of picking up somebody, there is the emontional context of a predator prey situation. And in this case, the chase may be very gratifying.
But this is the whole point of this thread, why buy it?
Some people would not rather go through all this chase, hunt, and kill.
Why should they? When it can be so nicely and easily purchased.

I see no point in pushing this further.
Sorry, if I casued any offense, that was not my intent.

Thanks.

kassy.

MinahSky
08-14-2005, 09:28 PM
Taking a girl out on a few dates in hope of some p*ssy.....$300

Going to an escort and DEFINITELY getting a BJ/FS.....$300

Not having to talk to her afterwards.....PRICELESS

SportsWriter2
08-15-2005, 02:20 AM
Some people would not rather go through all this chase, hunt, and kill.

Some people like to go through the chase, hunt, and kill on a stocked game preserve.

Just saw your pics, Kassy. Wow! You have a Top 10 face when you wear clear lipgloss. :)

yoda57us
08-15-2005, 06:44 AM
Yes, if one goes to a single bar for the purpose of picking up somebody, there is the emontional context of a predator prey situation. And in this case, the chase may be very gratifying.
But this is the whole point of this thread, why buy it?
Some people would not rather go through all this chase, hunt, and kill.
Why should they? When it can be so nicely and easily purchased.

I see no point in pushing this further.
Sorry, if I casued any offense, that was not my intent.

Thanks.

kassy.

Kassy, no offense taken. I was merely responding to your post with my opinions. If we all saw things exaclty the same way this thread would have died last year.

kassyS
08-16-2005, 02:04 PM
First, thanks. One further additional comment.

Next, I like your analogy of SC as a stocked game preserve, however, it is more analogous to a fast food joint.

Well, basically, a guys got two essential needs.

1. Nutrition

2. Sex.

To satisfy nutrition, he can either go to a grocery store, restaurant, or a fast food joint. His needs for nutrition can be satisfied here.

To satisfy sex, he can either go to his GF or SO, call an escort agency, or go to a SC.
Obtaining satisfaction here is a bit more complicated. His GF or SO is not always a reliable source, and escort agency is very cost prohibitive, so what does he do?
He runs down to the friendly neighborhood SC.
Now, this is where I come in. I provide sex fatnasy fulfillment which can be purchased. And it is another service like any other service, it is there fore sale.

Lest somebody says that it is a waste, well, read the following quotation.

The use of the term "waste" is in one respect an unfortunate one. As used in the speech of everyday life the word carries an undertone of deprecation. It is here used for want of a better term that will adequately describe the same range of motives and of phenomena, and it is not to be taken in an odious sense, as implying an illegitimate expenditure of human products or of human life. In the view of economic theory the expenditure in question is no more and no less legitimate than any other expenditure. It is here called "waste" because this expenditure does not serve human life or human well-being on the whole, not because it is waste or misdirection of effort or expenditure as viewed from the standpoint of the individual consumer who chooses it. If he chooses it, that disposes of the question of its relative utility to him, as compared with other forms of consumption that would not be deprecated on account of their wastefulness. Whatever form of expenditure the consumer chooses, or whatever end he seeks in making his choice, has utility to him by virtue of his preference. As seen from the point of view of the individual consumer, the question of wastefulness does not arise within the scope of economic theory proper. The use of the word "waste" as a technical term, therefore, implies no deprecation of the motives or of the ends sought by the consumer under this canon of conspicuous waste.

----Veblen, "Theory of the Leisure Class"

Hey, it is his money, throw more of it my way.

threlayer
08-31-2005, 05:37 AM
Cheapest sex without complications is with a fuck buddy. Unless you want it frequently or don't have one. Then it bcomes a problem.

LemonLime
09-01-2005, 05:47 PM
Then how does one solve this problem?
Some guys get a "temporary" solution by going to the SC.
This is where a lot of them try to "buy" me by buying lap dance after lap dance.
Throwing wads of money as tips on stage while I dance.
And me, being the Capitalist Whore that I am, slowly but surely siphoning them dry drop by drop until nothing is left.

Once in an occasion, a customer will surprise me with an occasion gift.
Such as rings, watches, tickets, candy, and even at one time, a new motorcycle.
None of which I accepted.
All in the name of trying to get me to be his "buddy".

I have even had some of them offer me weed, pills, dust and even coke.
And when I refused, they said "Damn, I thought all strippers took coke!"

Some men would stoop as low as they can to achieve a solution to this "problem".

Well, they can try, and keep on trying, for as long as they try, my money keeps flowing in. And I love it.

Some helpful hints.

How to Pick Up Strippers
Gary Brodsky
GB Media Inc.

Remember, "to these malicious, twisted bitches, it's just simply too much fun breaking guys' backs and then leaving them to die in the gutter." Do not give them a dime! In this snappy 145-page tome, we learn how to get any stripper we want for free. This book seems so far from his original themes, it's hard to believe we're dealing with the Brodmeister


The Fool Proof Guide to Picking up Women
Gary Brodsky
GB Media Inc.

Wow. After nine CDs and three books, I thought I know what time it was…WRONG! Getting laid is about a lot of different things, but apparently you also need a list of pick-up tips on top of the previous tips to really hone in on your target. Chapters like "Girls Don't Look Twice at a Guy Who Is Nice" may seem to resemble the How to Be a Prick With Women CD really fucking closely, but have a second look. Did the Prick CD include "If you think watching a Three Stooges Marathon should take precedence over a black-tie dinner with her boss, she's going to have to attend the affair by herself"? No, it didn't. Come on, guys. You need all the facts.

Get Any Woman to Do Anything
Gary Brodsky
GB Media Inc.

Jesus fucking Christ, another one? That's five books and nine CDs all about the same goddamn motherfucking thing. What is the matter with you? Why are you still reading these? What are you, a fucking burn victim? Fuck! Go get a prostitute or something.

How to Use Black Magic to Get Women
Gary Brodsky
GB Media Inc.

Double-yewe tee eff?! Now we're using black magic? Now we have to go to hell to get laid? In this, the final chapter of the encyclopedia of getting laid, Gary has us pulling out "the red candles" and covering ourselves with "Do As I Say oil" (I swear on my mother's life, I'm not kidding). I am totally speechless. Goodbye.