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FBR
01-27-2008, 05:43 PM
^^^ Jenny if I had good intuition, I wouldn't be asking. But if I had to guess I suspect she would take the money from me with no cums and get her orgasms from her extended network of young guys. I mean, if push came to shove. That is why I will be a puss and not press the issue.

FBR

Jenny
01-27-2008, 05:45 PM
^^^
Yeah, FBR - I suspect that your intuition there is right on and that she's meeting your for the money and not your prowess as a lover.

FBR
01-27-2008, 05:51 PM
^^ Jenny I hate reality. Thank you, though, for your comment. It hurts in a good way. But I will soldier on.

FBR

Katrine
01-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Wha? I'd let you get me off 6 times for $500 and no sex. That's the easiest money that girl is ever going to make. She is very lucky. I always came on paid dates if I was sober enough to be able to get off.

Jenny
01-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Oh come now. I'm sure your prowess as a lover is amazing. Just not amazing enough to pay her rent.

But really - you wouldn't get along well with me at all. I'm the kind of person that says: "We're not on the clock. Stop touching me." And I'd expect you to laugh.

FBR
01-27-2008, 06:01 PM
Wha? I'd let you get me off 6 times for $500 and no sex. That's the easiest money that girl is ever going to make. She is very lucky. I always came on paid dates if I was sober enough to be able to get off.

LOL Kat. Miss D would wither from your competition. But you should have prefaced your comment with "Before I was a millionaire stockbroker and financial adviser...". We all know you are off limits now. Drat.

FBR

Katrine
01-27-2008, 06:07 PM
We all know you are off limits now. Drat.

FBR

I don't know, I wouldn't turn down a good opportunity. Once a whore.....you know the rest. And its hard to become a millionaire when you spend all your dough! :-\

FBR
01-27-2008, 06:09 PM
But really - you wouldn't get along well with me at all. I'm the kind of person that says: "We're not on the clock. Stop touching me." And I'd expect you to laugh.

Jenny, so now along with having to pay for any attention I can get, you are telling everyone I have no sense of humor. Humor truly was my last island of self esteem.

FBR

mr_punk
01-27-2008, 06:13 PM
Not irrelevant at all. Most men care about the provider's pleasure as an indicator of their own prowess and virility. Most johns are like you and yoda than like Punkita or aggied.true. in the end, it's really all about him. which is why i don't bother to make that claim. if a sex worker actually cums 5 times..fine. if not..well, that works for me too.

Kat I agree. But with a qualifier that Punk's SCJ published escapades have been confined to the club. Perhaps OTC he is a lover par excellence. He never talks about it so it is a mystery.no, i've dropped subtle hints here and there, but i don't write about the HG for the same reason i don't write TR. it's an exercise in redundancy.

Jenny
01-27-2008, 06:27 PM
FBR - I said that I was sure your prowess was amazing. What more do you want from me?
Jenny, so now along with having to pay for any attention I can get, you are telling everyone I have no sense of humor. Humor truly was my last island of self esteem.

FBR

Katrine
01-27-2008, 06:55 PM
FBR - I said that I was sure your prowess was amazing. What more do you want from me?

Rimjob?

In response to the earlier discussion about a possible threesome...there doesn't have to be lesbian activity in a threesome. They could be be pleasing only you!

hockeybobby
01-27-2008, 07:03 PM
Rimjob?

In response to the earlier discussion about a possible threesome...there doesn't have to be lesbian activity in a threesome. They could be be pleasing only you!

This could be a useful technicality FBR. You won't have to scrap your principles now to enjoy a little ffm ;)
hb

Jenny
01-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Rimjob?

In response to the earlier discussion about a possible threesome...there doesn't have to be lesbian activity in a threesome. They could be be pleasing only you!
Dude - you know I'm really uptight about back door activity.

3some - I can't imagine that Miss D would be that careless with her meal ticket.

FBR
01-27-2008, 07:36 PM
Dude - you know I'm really uptight about back door activity.

Kat knows the details? How? That could be a great story }:D


3some - I can't imagine that Miss D would be that careless with her meal ticket. I'd rather hope for the simple truth that she wouldn't want to share me. Ha!

FBR

yoda57us
01-27-2008, 07:37 PM
Yoda, I assume that you were thinking along the same lines as Kat but that you do enjoy a woman who gets really, really juicy.

Yeah, juicy is good, squirting is a pain in the ass for me since I'm down there face first much of the time....


Having argued the merits of physical evidence of her satisfaction, one could make the case that her pleasure or lack thereof is irrelevant considering that it is play for pay anyway and not a true romantic relationship.
FBR

I think that there is a gray area between simply "paying for sex" and a romantic relationship. I have paid for a lot of sex over many years. Sometimes it was just about me getting off but in the past several years it has been much more about finding steady ladies who enjoy their work, enjoy sex and enjoy making a lot of money. Realistically it is still a job and obviously not every guy is a joy to be with. That does not however mean that the sex can't be fun for both parties when the chemistry is there. Romance is a whole other issue. You don't have to be romantically involved with a woman to enjoy having sex with her.

Katrine
01-27-2008, 08:14 PM
Oh, and I might have mentioned this before at other times. I can get myself off in any sexual situation whether or not I have any interest or attraction to the guy. I just play out one of my fantasies in my head, and bam. As a matter of fact, I pretty much always do that, even with a partner I'm attracted to.

My point is, aside from shitting on FBRs escalade parade, is that the provider isn't necesarily orgasming from you as a person, but rather using you as a human dildo. Which is kind of hot.

FBR
01-27-2008, 08:22 PM
My point is, aside from shitting on FBRs escalade parade, is that the provider isn't necesarily orgasming from you as a person, but rather using you as a human dildo. Which is kind of hot.

Kat. Whoa. I totally didn't consider that. Do you have any suggestions how I could make it about me? I mean, I'm more than willing to bring scented candles and a Barry Manilow CD if you think that would work.

FBR

yoda57us
01-27-2008, 08:35 PM
See, this is my quandary...


You and I yoda. We are one kindred spirit.

It's scary but true Kat. "Good yoda" wants to give you a cyber-hug...:)



I don't know, I wouldn't turn down a good opportunity. Once a whore.....you know the rest. And its hard to become a millionaire when you spend all your dough! :-\

But "Evil yoda" wonders what constitutes a "good offer" ;D}:D

FBR
01-27-2008, 08:46 PM
But "Evil yoda" wonders what constitutes a "good offer" ;D}:D

Evil Yoda wants to bang Kat into next week. Just say it. The confession will cleanse your soul, sir.

}:D FBR

yoda57us
01-27-2008, 10:51 PM
Evil Yoda wants to bang Kat into next week. Just say it. The confession will cleanse your soul, sir.


Alas FBR it's been a while since I was even capable of banging a woman into the next hour much less the next week....:-[

I am quite good at the simultaneous suck:-X and nibble:P and have been known to deliver quite the enthusiastic rim job...and I like to cuddle...:)

At this point I leave the heavy lifting to the younger boy toys...it sucks to get old.../:O

Katrine
01-28-2008, 12:14 AM
and have been known to deliver quite the enthusiastic rim job.


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

All Good Things
01-28-2008, 04:38 PM
I just play out one of my fantasies in my head, and bam. As a matter of fact, I pretty much always do that, even with a partner I'm attracted to.

Of course you do.

How successful have you been letting guys take over your mental fuck-me track and push you hard and relentlessly into those dark, fucked-up places you haven't been in a while? }:D


The provider isn't necessarily orgasming from you as a person, but rather using you as a human dildo. Which is kind of hot.

Fuck it's hot. Something I know a little about. It's important to enjoy your work. :)

Casual Observer
01-28-2008, 06:28 PM
Goddamn, why don't you all get a room already.

yoda57us
01-28-2008, 09:04 PM
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.


Woo Hoo! Yeah we do!

Katrine
01-29-2008, 12:23 PM
Of course you do.

How successful have you been letting guys take over your mental fuck-me track and push you hard and relentlessly into those dark, fucked-up places you haven't been in a while? }:D


Obviously not very successful given that I can't keep a steady fuck-toy. Sucks.:'(

SportsWriter2
01-29-2008, 04:01 PM
and have been known to deliver quite the enthusiastic rim job...
SC public health trends: Younger dancers are sucking more. Older customers are licking more. :-\

yoda57us
01-29-2008, 04:13 PM
Obviously not very successful given that I can't keep a steady fuck-toy. Sucks.:'(


Warning: Blatant Suck-Up Post Alert....

Having spent several hours captivated by your wit, personality and extreme hotness I can only assume that most of the men in Austin are either gay, married or morons....

yoda57us
01-29-2008, 04:15 PM
SC public health trends: Younger dancers are sucking more. Older customers are licking more. :-\

If you say so Sporty...

SportsWriter2
01-29-2008, 07:37 PM
Having spent several hours captivated by your wit, personality and extreme hotness I can only assume that most of the men in Austin are either gay, married or morons....
...or maybe she dismembers them and throws them in a dumpster. You'll never know what you missed. :-\

FBR
02-12-2008, 09:54 PM
So I went to a new restaurant yesterday afternoon with Miss D for drinks and some customer/dancer bonding time. Miss A (the stripper who I imagined was trying to fucko me when Miss D was in the dressing room) bartends there part time. It was overall pretty fun but the coolest thing is that she comp'd the shit out of my bill. This is kind of an expensive, swanky place. I had 3 Bloody Marys, Miss D had two double shots of Absolute. Plus we both had a cup of French onion soup (they float these tiny fried onion rings on top which I've never had before...delicious). I was expecting a 60-70 dollar tab but the bill was $24 with tax! Holy shit! I quickly paid the bill and tipped Miss A $30 ;D

FBR

FBR
02-12-2008, 10:37 PM
Obviously not very successful given that I can't keep a steady fuck-toy. Sucks.:'(


Kat I find it bizarre that you are struggling to hang onto a satisfying steady fuck. I take yoda's word that you are hot. Plus you are very cool here and a pleasure to talk to. I'm starting to think that instead of wanting to hang out with regular guys you are psychotically attracted to self centered gay ass metrosexual boys. I'm about to start up a collection to raise the money to get you some therapy, hon. All of us here are rooting for you. Even the Punkster, I bet.

FBR

yoda57us
02-17-2008, 09:05 AM
I'm there, yo! And thanks for the therapy fund offer FBR. I already have a therapist. Thank dog for great health insurance, it only costs $6 a session.

Dang! Such a deal....My "therapy sessions" run $300 an hour and, for some reason, insurance just won't cover it.....

Katrine
02-17-2008, 11:08 AM
Dang! Such a deal....My "therapy sessions" run $300 an hour and, for some reason, insurance just won't cover it.....

I spent a shitton on premiums and copay last year. This time I elected for the best plan my provider offers. Its about $50 a month, plus $100 into an HSA, and its awesome! Even that $6 is pre-tax! Yay corporate benefits. :D

JoeUnCool
03-13-2008, 05:20 PM
Wow, this thread, which started out with such promise went bad. I can't believe I spent the time reading it. I was going to post about the "WTF just happened" night. I think I am just going to pass on it. I have no desire to be made fun of by Jenny, Kat, or anyone else. I guess I'll just take it to the grave.......................

Jenny
03-13-2008, 05:23 PM
Dude - if you don't want to be made fun of, you probably shouldn't post here at all. Posting in blue means being made of.

JoeUnCool
03-13-2008, 05:34 PM
Geez Jenny, do you troll the database looking for posts with your name? 3 minutes? The doctor can help you with your paranoia............. ;)

hockeybobby
03-13-2008, 05:44 PM
Geez Jenny, do you troll the database looking for posts with your name? 3 minutes? The doctor can help you with your paranoia............. ;)

She just knows the good threads to watch for Joe. This one has provided hours of entertainment for all of us. It looks like it's about to take a turn for the better too. ;)

But seriously Joe, being made fun of is half the fun. It's a badge of honour to take it and give it cheerfully.

JoeUnCool
03-13-2008, 05:48 PM
But seriously Joe, being made fun of is half the fun. It's a badge of honour to take it and give it cheerfully.

HB, I'm into self deprecating (or is it self defecating......I always get those two confused) humor.

JoeUnCool
03-13-2008, 06:01 PM
She just knows the good threads to watch for Joe. This one has provided hours of entertainment for all of us. It looks like it's about to take a turn for the better too. ;)



I don't know if I would say its going to get better. }:D I don't think I'll open up regarding that night anytime soon. ::) I'll probably share some instances of other events that occurred OTC. :)

Katrine
03-13-2008, 06:29 PM
No one is going to beg you. Share if you want.

JoeUnCool
03-13-2008, 06:39 PM
No one is going to beg you. Share if you want.

And "I'll respect you in the morning" ;)

Honestly, I probably will. Just not today.

I apologize for my comment being taken out of context. This thread really went down hill after a while. FBR, Kat, and Jenny seemed to be giving each other a lot of $hit in it. I had assumed my comment would be taken that way. I guess being a new guy, my dry humor went undetected.

JoeSoUncool

Jenny
03-14-2008, 12:01 AM
Geez Jenny, do you troll the database looking for posts with your name? 3 minutes? The doctor can help you with your paranoia............. ;)
No. I'm looking for YOUR name. I just find you that interesting.

hockeybobby
03-14-2008, 08:04 AM
No. I'm looking for YOUR name. I just find you that interesting.

You just never know what's gonna turn Jenny's head. She's so deliciously unpredictable that way.

JoeUnCool
03-14-2008, 04:54 PM
No. I'm looking for YOUR name. I just find you that interesting.

A good therapist could help you with your problem. ;)

FBR
04-06-2008, 05:37 PM
I just came off of a really nice vacation time with Mrs FBR. It was a long time coming and was really good. But I already have an OTC scheduled with Miss D tomorrow. If there ever was a time to get back to the real world this would be it. But I keep thinking about Miss D's Lady Godiva hair, curvey shape, natural D's and her beautiful smile. And the RR lotion fun.

I will most likely be a slut tomorrow. I liked me better when I could be a dawg and not worry about it.

Just venting, guys.

FBR

yoda57us
04-08-2008, 07:16 PM
I just came off of a really nice vacation time with Mrs FBR. It was a long time coming and was really good. But I already have an OTC scheduled with Miss D tomorrow. If there ever was a time to get back to the real world this would be it. But I keep thinking about Miss D's Lady Godiva hair, curvey shape, natural D's and her beautiful smile. And the RR lotion fun.

I will most likely be a slut tomorrow. I liked me better when I could be a dawg and not worry about it.

Just venting, guys.

FBR

We all have choices to make FBR. I was at Disney about eight years ago on a family vacation when I went down to the pool alone one morning to get out of earshot from the wife and kid and return a VM left by my then ATF. We talked about when I was going to be home and if I was coming in on my birthday. Even then I was way past the point of feeling guilty about my lusting after beautiful young women from foreign countries...it's only gotten worse but I have to be honest, I like me just fine.

I mean, as long as we are just venting....

azdd
04-08-2008, 10:20 PM
We all have choices to make FBR. I was at Disney about eight years ago on a family vacation when I went down to the pool alone one morning to get out of earshot from the wife and kid and return a VM left by my then ATF. We talked about when I was going to be home and if I was coming in on my birthday. Even then I was way past the point of feeling guilty about my lusting after beautiful young women from foreign countries...it's only gotten worse but I have to be honest, I like me just fine.

I mean, as long as we are just venting....

Been there, done that exact same thing as well. I once even went to a club in Hawaii to get LDs from Sunset Thomas while my family was hanging out at our hotel about a hundred yards away. More recently, on MLK day I took my wife to Phoenix so she could go wedding dress shopping with my recently engaged daughter. I dropped them off so I could go do my own shopping at REI, etc., but instead spent the afternoon with my ATF at my favorite club, which was about three blocks from the bridal shop! Like Yoda, my guilt meter broke a long time ago.....

Speaking of other close encounters between real life and club-life, I used to have my ATF's phone number in my cell directory with the name just coded as "Zzz". Once I tried calling her while I was at home, but got VM. She tried calling back just a few minutes later, but I had left my phone on kitchen counter and had gone out to the garage when it rang. My wife answered, and the ATF hung up, and I had to think quick to make up a plausible explanation for who Zzz was. Now, I just put in full names, sort of like hiding in plain sight, and can explain any name that comes up as a work colleague. (That little incident freaked out my ATF just a bit!)

Sh0t
04-12-2008, 08:59 AM
@FBR

Vent away buddy.It seems you are at a real crossroads of things regarding the women in your 'life'.

I've done my version of the above with various women. Out in a club with one girl, hitting on another at another part of the club. I've even go so far as to have hurried sex with women while another was waiting for me to return from "saying hi to friends", etc.

I don't have a wife and a mistress combo, but I have my own compressed-time versions.

I don't feel guilty usually, I get a thrill from being able to do it.

I'd have to be upfront about any potential outside-the-relationship activities though. I don't care much about sexual fidelity, but I'm a big believer in loyalty and such things.

Golden_Rule
04-23-2008, 01:39 AM
I think that there is a gray area between simply "paying for sex" and a romantic relationship.

I personally think that in the P4P arena that grey area is never greyer than when talking about commercial sex with strippers.

Certainly there are exceptions. I am sure that when Kat had a play for pay encounter she acknowledged it as such, but I find SOOO many dancers who muddy the water in this regard as to place them in a category of sexual services providers entirely of their own.

Candidly, that this is true is precisely why I seek such services from strippers.

Since these women go to such extreme lengths of mental agility to convince themselves they aren't actually being paid for the sex they are providing to their client they can't very well treat said client like a john. To do so would puncture the bubble of their illusion. So the client gets treated more like a boy-friend, or a friend with benefits. The sex is usually much more "real" feeling than with providers who cut off their mental selves from the client. Something this type of stripper/provider can not do because, again, dropping a wall in front of her psyche is an admission that the sex that is taking place is purely a commercial act and that would make her a prostitute and in her mind she is no such thing.

While I would normally find such a huge parting with reality troublesome, I feel in these situations if it can be maintained without there being any harm to the young Lady in question, I can keep my head below the clouds and my feet on the ground, and no one is getting hurt, while we are both getting what we want from it, it isn't a bad thing.

xdamage
04-23-2008, 05:36 AM
Candidly, that this is true is precisely why I seek such services from strippers.

Since these women go to such extreme lengths of mental agility to convince themselves they aren't actually being paid for the sex they are providing to their client they can't very well treat said client like a john. To do so would puncture the bubble of their illusion. So the client gets treated more like a boy-friend, or a friend with benefits. The sex is usually much more "real" feeling than with providers who cut off their mental selves from the client.


Sounds like a good explanation why some men would rather seek sex with a stripper, vs the sure-thing they could get from an escort.

I guess the only thing I'd add is that for some people the thrill is in a new conquest, a thrill that escorts really can't provide except via role play. Strippers represent some "challenge" for those who desire the thrill of a seduction.