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whitelight97402
10-29-2008, 11:30 AM
Right on latin god, i dig your style, i find myself in a similar place as far as the SD thing goes, weird cause i am totally down for the fantasy in the club or going out and things like that, yet when it comes to a semi 'fantasy' relationship, it just doesn't appeal to me, it must be real or not at all. I don't know why the line.

Seems smart on her BF thing as well.


Anyhow, i'd be curious to hear how it comes together, how the trip goes.

latingod
10-30-2008, 09:15 AM
Ok, so I got a call from my ATF, OTC girl....she broke it off for good with her boyfriend and wants to see me tonight when I get back...So I said "at The Club?? at what time will you be there tonight??" and she says..."No silly let's meet for dinner and have a real date!!"...

After that I told her I've been really busy, so I'll probably be very tired when I get back, but would like to still see her, and wanted to know if she wanted to come over to my place and I'll make dinner for her, she agreed to it, so I'll see her tonight...

hockeybobby
10-30-2008, 09:59 AM
Read the first post in this thread in order to glean the level of detail in the description we are expecting regarding your OTC Holy Grail tonight with your ATF.

Looking forward to your story later ;)

JoeUnCool
10-30-2008, 11:41 AM
Ok, so I got a call from my ATF, OTC girl....she broke it off for good with her boyfriend and wants to see me tonight when I get back...So I said "at The Club?? at what time will you be there tonight??" and she says..."No silly let's meet for dinner and have a real date!!"...

After that I told her I've been really busy, so I'll probably be very tired when I get back, but would like to still see her, and wanted to know if she wanted to come over to my place and I'll make dinner for her, she agreed to it, so I'll see her tonight...

I hope it works out for you in a positive way.

whitelight97402
10-30-2008, 11:51 AM
I hope it works out for you in a positive way.

yeah me to....

Earl_the_Pearl
11-03-2008, 12:40 AM
That isn't really OTC it is dating. OTC is "dating".

whitelight97402
11-03-2008, 12:39 PM
That isn't really OTC it is dating. OTC is "dating".

not sure what you are getting at? I am confused....

Earl_the_Pearl
11-03-2008, 02:02 PM
not sure what you are getting at? I am confused....
To me OTC is a paid "date". If one dates with just the regular girlfriend expenses I don't consider that OTC.

I would caution PLs to never date a dancer as they are not capable of a relationship without the hustle and if one forgets one is a trick it will get very expensive.

latingod
11-25-2008, 12:35 PM
Ok, latest update...so we got together for dinner, and had an amazing time at my place (first time she's ever been to it)...and after dinner, drinks and conversation I took her home...well close to home as she lives with her BF....
We agreed on our trip to Vegas in a couple of weeks, she was leaving a day ahead and then I'll leave on friday to meet up with her. Without her knowledge I upgrade her tickets to first class, so she calls me right away and tells me how did I do that, because airlines are so uptight now about giving passenger's information and what not....I just told her, you just need to ask the right questions and be nice!!
We met up in Vegas, had a great weekend, took her to a show that she wanted to see, got the best seats and they actually took her up to the stage and made her participate in it (all arranged by moi) and she was so thrilled and excited, so after that we went back to my hotel and had the best time ever. Now i know she really likes me and I do like her.
On our way back she told me not to come to the Club anymore nor spend any money on her, because she wants me to see that is not about the money or what I spend on her at the club, that she really likes me and that she wants to be with me. She asked me for a couple of weeks so she can make the proper arrangements and break up with her BF...

We'll see how things go...I'm traveling this week and next, so I won't see her until I get back and again I tiold her not to expect to hear from me, that I want her to make her mind up and think what she really wants.

I'll catch up with you guys later....

Earl_the_Pearl
11-27-2008, 03:30 AM
I'll catch up with you guys later....
Cut to the chase; did you swap body fluids. Dancers swap body fluids with casual PLs. :-[

Dirty Ernie
11-30-2008, 01:02 PM
... we went all the way ....

This little phrase from the 50's means they had sex.

Good Luck LG, but it seems every other post she breaks up with her BF and in the next one she's going home to him. You don't seem to be too hung up about a "real" relationship with this dancer, but I hope you're just not in denial for the board's sake.

whitelight97402
12-02-2008, 02:44 PM
i don't agree with ernie, their situation has been brewing for a long time, it is super real, she digs him, sweet tale LG, either way it ends this sounds like something very real, congrats and i don't mean that as some locker room, holy grail 'high five', it is hard to find people to connect with and seems like you've done it.

latingod
12-08-2008, 06:11 AM
Lads, so she had the talk with her bf and they broke it off... He just moved out from her place and as of last night we are oficially dating, she told me she finally realized that she didn't loved the guy anymore and that she couldn't spend time without thinking about me ( which is nice to hear). We are going to give it a try and see if things work. I really like and she likes meso we will see. She will be moving to a new place closer to mine next week. I think this can work....

Rosary
12-08-2008, 06:23 AM
Lads, so she had the talk with her bf and they broke it off... He just moved out from her place and as of last night we are oficially dating, she told me she finally realized that she didn't loved the guy anymore and that she couldn't spend time without thinking about me ( which is nice to hear). We are going to give it a try and see if things work. I really like and she likes meso we will see. She will be moving to a new place closer to mine next week. I think this can work....

Good luck! Maybe you will even get some FREE PUSSY!

whitelight97402
12-08-2008, 12:34 PM
sounds great latingod, that is awsome, hope it doesn't become more then you bargained for, seems like she is going to start having a serious emotional commitment toward you, hope you are feeling it to.

as for the 'free pussy' comments above, seriously, grow up already, no wonder dancers get disgusted with certain types of cuties....

hockeybobby
12-08-2008, 03:02 PM
Treat her good LG. Good Luck.

Earl_the_Pearl
12-13-2008, 11:40 PM
Good luck! Maybe you will even get some FREE PUSSY!
There is no free lunch.

Earl_the_Pearl
12-14-2008, 06:29 AM
Escorts of comparable looks and service are $200 to $250 an hour and watch the clock so as not to keep the next trick waiting. I find OTC is $150 to $200 for 1.5 to 2 hours of total GFE plus a stop at the drive through wile taking her back home::) .

The "relationship" doesn't end after OTC as there is still the stripper/PL in the club "friendship". /:O

Up date and I do mean UP. I had a "date"/date last week with an OTC that is a head turner, 5' 9" in flats and about 120 pounds. Bless the first of the month.

Met at DD 9:30 PM as I don't think she wanted me to know where she lived. Had coffee then went to a bar. Me two beers her four shots of Hennessey. I asked if she wanted to get a room, YESSSSS. Three and a half hours of LD with extras.

As I was laying in her arms I was figuring out how much to give her. I wanted to give her half of my stuff but decided on $300, she NEVER mentioned money and did not complain about the gift.

I guess I passed the audition we stopped at Burger King as I drove her home. She wants to "date" again before Xmas. :D I might give her more then $50 an hour this time.;)

Is 38 years to big an age difference? Nah.

whitelight97402
12-16-2008, 12:37 PM
had yet another amazing experience this past weekend. got to the club super late, was out with other friends earlier, was sorta bummed that things were winding down about to close, asked around to see if anyone wanted to party, i did have some party favors from earlier, anyhow no takers, oh well, i am heading home and decide to give my cab driver buddy a call since i hadn't seem him yet that night and ask if he knows about any after hours parties or anything, he didn't but he is driving a mutual dancer friend back to her apartment and he puts her on the phone, she isn't ready for sleep yet either, sweet!

anyhow she gets over to my place, we talk for a few hours, it was pretty cool because it never snows in this part of Oregon and it was snowing that night anyhow hot hot memorable evening in front of the fireplace. I drove her home at like 10 the next morning, super sweetheart she is.

Earl_the_Pearl
12-18-2008, 01:23 AM
super sweetheart she is.
In nature that is called a symbiosis. Mother nature knows best. :teacher:

moscm
02-06-2009, 07:20 PM
Well, I'm going to do it!

I've never had or asked for 'outside the club' before. But sometime in the next few days, I'm going to go for it.


Sunday through Tuesday is when a local club has 2 for 1 lap dance nights. I haven't been there since August of last year.


This shouldn't be hard. The last time I went, a stripper offered OTC sex. I didn't take her up on it, but I will this time. If she's not there, I'll try to proposition one of the other girls.


Results to come...

yoda57us
02-06-2009, 08:33 PM
This shouldn't be hard. The last time I went, a stripper offered OTC sex. I didn't take her up on it, but I will this time. If she's not there, I'll try to proposition one of the other girls.


Hmmmm...well, you know your home club better than I do but, where I come from at least, asking a girl if she wants to engage in prostitution is not really the same thing as accepting an offer from one to do the same.

Good luck though...

Earl_the_Pearl
02-08-2009, 09:13 AM
asking a girl if she wants to engage in prostitution is not really the same thing as accepting an offer from one to do the same.

Good luck though...
What prostitution? It is just two people that know each other spending time and one spending money. There is a "club" in Iverington where the dancers don't ask they just pull it out at the bar. A drink and twenty.

yoda57us
02-08-2009, 10:50 AM
What prostitution? It is just two people that know each other spending time and one spending money. There is a "club" in Iverington where the dancers don't ask they just pull it out at the bar. A drink and twenty.


Um, OK, What does a hand job at the bar have to do with seeing a girl for sex outside the club? Earl, I pay for sex all the time. I'm not making a moral judgment but it is what it is, no matter what you choose to call it.

And again, my point was that it is being offered, not asked for. There is a difference.

Earl_the_Pearl
02-08-2009, 08:21 PM
And again, my point was that it is being offered, not asked for. There is a difference.

Huh?? Ask and ye shall receive. I'm talking about time of course.::)

yoda57us
02-09-2009, 08:08 PM
Huh?? Ask and ye shall receive. I'm talking about time of course.::)

Of course...}:D

moscm
02-09-2009, 11:45 PM
Haha, well, I ended up going to a different club just to see how it was, and I didn't ask or get anything from anyone :P. Maybe in a couple more months. I don't have the dough to go more often than that.

Big Dick McGhee
02-17-2009, 10:01 AM
Need a bit of help. Been going to strip clubs for over 10 years, dated handful of strippers. There's this hot girl I know, about 25, seems nice. She has a regular customer who will take her to the VIP Room for 5-6 hours at a time at least once a week. My question is, about what percentage of dancers fuck their sugar daddies? I've also seen him tip her $100 on stage a couple of times.

whitelight97402
02-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Need a bit of help. Been going to strip clubs for over 10 years, dated handful of strippers. There's this hot girl I know, about 25, seems nice. She has a regular customer who will take her to the VIP Room for 5-6 hours at a time at least once a week. My question is, about what percentage of dancers fuck their sugar daddies? I've also seen him tip her $100 on stage a couple of times.


i'd want to know more about the club, whether it is a dive or a nicer place. it is possible it is a straight hustle, no sex, most guys who are actually getting 'it' are less likely to drop hundreds on the stage, but you never know...

if the point of this is to find out whether she does bookings or what not, i really suggest simply asking her in a respectful way and make sure that you are alone because she will have to say 'no' if people know what is going down. also, you will be able to tell alot about her hustle when you put her on the spot like this.

Big Dick McGhee
02-18-2009, 08:58 AM
It's a pretty upscale place in suburb of a BIG city in the Northeast. The girls are majority white and pretty, big boobs club. All nude, no booze. They have cameras in the private dance area and VIP rooms but when someone is in there for hours at a time how do I know they don't switch them off?

Earl_the_Pearl
03-05-2009, 12:39 PM
My question is, about what percentage of dancers fuck their sugar daddies?
Isn't a Sugar Daddy a big sucker?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v17/earlcamembert/suggar-daddy.jpg
I can't speak for others but no honey/no money.

miabella
03-22-2009, 02:17 AM
why do you care whether she is doing extra for the money or not? what is it to you that some other man is giving her money, since she is, after all, in that business?

Big Dick McGhee
03-26-2009, 09:40 AM
Good question, I thought this girl & I were friends, she said we were and communicated OTC for several months. She's smokin' hot, but why should I care about someone who doesn't care if I'm alive or dead?

Earl_the_Pearl
04-03-2009, 07:00 PM
.....why should I care about someone who doesn't care if I'm alive or dead?
Sex is better then love, love stinks. So does morning pussy but in a different way.

Earl_the_Pearl
04-24-2009, 09:30 AM
If one wants to "date" OTC now is the time. Money is tight, very tight and the dancers are hungry. There are clubs in north New Jersey where OTC is the norm. This is of course a short OTC "date" a few hours with no boy friend/girl friend pretense. Pure escort experience.

I have found three types of OTC. The one described above plus the sugar daddy/sugar baby type. This involves spending a few days together a few times a month. This involves taking them shopping and to have their hair and nails done. They like to eat and drink and require money for bills. Sex does not happen 24/7 even though that is what I want.

The third is a long term significant other type. This involves paying her rent and bills but one has a key to her apartment. It becomes almost a marriage but one can do as one pleases because one is still paying her for her time and has a home to escape to.

All three require one to pay for her time as one would have to do in the club. REMEMBER IT IS A BUSINESS.

Big Dick McGhee
04-25-2009, 08:16 AM
Earl, you are the man and speak the truth. I recently had a dinner date w/ a nice stripper from a club I frequent. Nothing extravagent, just a nice meal and conversation. We plan on getting together again OTC so wish me luck!

Earl_the_Pearl
04-25-2009, 07:03 PM
Earl, you are the man and speak the truth. I recently had a dinner date w/ a nice stripper from a club I frequent. Nothing extravagent, just a nice meal and conversation. We plan on getting together again OTC so wish me luck!
If you are a generous gentleman and treat them like a person luck http://forum.stripperweb.com/images/themes/sw4/icons/crossfingers.gif will not have anything to do with it. If you make them cum that is a plus. Just remember it is a business, play for pay. No play no pay be strong.

I know these much younger :flirt: women would not "date" me if I were not generous and harmless. It is a business never forget it, it will save you from being consumed emotionally and financially.

Golden_Rule
04-30-2009, 09:28 PM
I have found three types of OTC. The one described above plus the sugar daddy/sugar baby type. This involves spending a few days together a few times a month. This involves taking them shopping and to have their hair and nails done. They like to eat and drink and require money for bills. Sex does not happen 24/7 even though that is what I want.



Its not a couple of days at a time, though I suppose it could be if both involved wanted that... but since most of the guys involved [including myself] are married the couple of day thing is out. So I would hardly think that is the norm.

Day trips that include shopping and meals are certainly in vogue. Hair and nails, I've ponied up the cash but way would I want to be around for that? Why would she want me around either?

Anything that imparts money from one to the other in a way that DOES NOT suggest prostitution. When the sex happens, which is often, it is sweet and it can be indulged in without the dancer beating herself up that she is involved in prostitution [sure its a mental dodge, but no worse than some guys pull on themselves with the "I'm not really cheating when I go into the strip-club and get a lap dance" number.]
:)

Earl_the_Pearl
05-01-2009, 08:36 PM
Its not a couple of days at a time, though I suppose it could be if both involved wanted that... but since most of the guys involved [including myself] are married the couple of day thing is out.

Hair and nails, I've ponied up the cash but way would I want to be around for that? Why would she want me around either?


As for marriage, I'M FREE AT LAST I'M FREE AT LAST. So that is not a problem.

Hair and nails it is ether pay for a taxi or drive; drive a 5' 9" 130lb 41 years younger then I am dancer. As for why would we want each other around. I am an old white guy and to have me on a leash is a status symbol in some circles. She wanted me to have my toes done with her, OMG, that is so gay. I went for a walk in beautiful down town Passic instead. ::)

Why would I want her around? If you saw us together you would know. ;)

Big Dick McGhee
05-04-2009, 10:11 AM
Earl is the MAN! I'm mid-40's & date girls at least 10-15 yrs younger than me. Early 20's strippers rock!

commanderadama
05-31-2009, 01:38 PM
Earl is the MAN! I'm mid-40's & date girls at least 10-15 yrs younger than me. Early 20's strippers rock!

Agreed

FBR
05-31-2009, 02:21 PM
I'm just curious. Big Dick and Earl, are you PFP'ing these women? I mean, if you are giving them money that is no justification for braggadocio. On the other hand, if you are doing the nasty with women substantially younger than you on a date basis as opposed to a money basis I'd sure like to know your secret :)

FBR

Earl_the_Pearl
05-31-2009, 03:03 PM
I'm just curious. Big Dick and Earl, are you PFP'ing these women? I mean, if you are giving them money that is no justification for braggadocio. On the other hand, if you are doing the nasty with women substantially younger than you on a date basis as opposed to a money basis I'd sure like to know your secret :)

FBR

Of course I'm paying. I'm not paying escort prices of $3,000 a day.

This is how it works; we both pretend it is not play for pay. I take them shopping and pay some bills. I will give them a few hundred dollars spending money, they never ask for it. I know their real names and even some SS numbers. I have access to there internet cell phone accounts so I can pay the bill on line. I have taken them and their children to dinner, it goes WAY beyond regular play for pay.

The other day I was at TGIF, big spender me, with two women more then three decades younger then I. As I was sitting there Hugh Hefner came to mind. Now Hefner is an Indy car to my Mustang but you get the picture.
If my relationships are play for pay so is Hefner's.

Even my more up front OTCs, agreed money for agreed time, turn into more then a pure escort relationship. They make me drive them home to save on cab fair; even making me stop on the way so they can run a few errands. This happens more times then not.

I had to turn off my hobby phone as the first of the month is at hand. Scores of dancers have my number and I theirs. I must not be such a monster as the pink side asserts.

I am of course single and loving it. ;)

hockeybobby
05-31-2009, 05:19 PM
Good point about Heffner.

Golden_Rule
05-31-2009, 09:02 PM
Getting easier and easier in these hard economic times to OTC.

Hit a place in Neptune, NJ last week with a wing-man friend of mine. He went OC [$250/half-hr VIP] with one dancer, I went OTC with another when she finished up for the night [$100 / about one hour + room].

We went to the Gallery/Holiday Motel, which if you are in NJ is local to Lawrence Harbor on Rt 35 near the famous Go-Go Rama and the now closed, but soon to be reopened, After Dark. $55/4 hour short stay with clean rooms, fire place, big jacuzzi tub [easily fit two, even three :) ] and round or heart shaped beds]. Highly recommended.

Big Dick McGhee
06-12-2009, 11:45 AM
Big Dick McGhee here, just to answer a recent question, NO, I don't pay to play to get dates w/ dancers. I am a good-looking guy w/ a personality, as you would guess this method is hit-or-miss. Some of these firls are pretty much ho's but a lot are very nice also.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-13-2009, 02:02 AM
Big Dick McGhee here, just to answer a recent question, NO, I don't pay to play to get dates w/ dancers.
That is dating not what I call OTC. OTC is the same as ITC just more private.

Earl_the_Pearl
06-14-2009, 06:50 PM
For me a great night is 450, That is Canadian; I'm paying too much for much less.

Earl_the_Pearl
08-11-2009, 01:09 AM
Getting easier and easier in these hard economic times to OTC.
My way too young no children long time OTC tried to get me to impregnate her. She must have been ovulating as she demanded all I had and more.

She had me tonally in her power as she attempted to insert my uncovered penis into her moist tight vagina. My ex did the same thing. I came to my senses and I covered it and am still under no obligation to pay child support. :crossfing

PatheticLoserCuckold
08-19-2009, 05:19 PM
My way too young no children long time OTC tried to get me to impregnate her. She must have been ovulating as she demanded all I had and more.

She had me tonally in her power as she attempted to insert my uncovered penis into her moist tight vagina. My ex did the same thing. I came to my senses and I covered it and am still under no obligation to pay child support. :crossfing

Thats will power right there.