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brmcmh
12-20-2009, 06:15 AM
My first post here after lurking for a while ... hope you all don't slam me too much. This post should probably be called "The (so far unsuccessful) Pursuit of The Holy Grail".
In the last year I've considerably stepped up the frequency of my SC'ing. Mostly after work stops at a nice club that happens to be about halfway between my work and home. So, of course, I have a favorite (let's call her Ms. L). She seems very receptive to OTC, and I've been trying to arrange it for a couple of months now, but something always fouls the plans. I'm starting to wonder if she's maybe just stringing me along. (ok, I realize I'm on the verge of sounding like a naive idiot)
About 2 months ago we actually made arrangements to meet. I was in the club on a Thursday night. We agreed to meet the next day for dinner and fun before she came to work. She said to pick her up outside the club about 4:15. So I showed up and waited .... waited ... waited until after 5:00 ... no show.
(Sorry -- Gotta go -- I'll have to finish this post later)
brmcmh
12-20-2009, 09:41 AM
... picking up where I left off...
I waited around till after 5, and she doesn't show. I go to a nearby restaurant and grab a bite, then go into the club around 6-ish. It's Friday and my wife is out of town visiting her sister so there's no need to hurry home. I hang out for a while, have a couple drinks ... chat with a few of the dancers ... finally around 7:30 she appears on stage. I go up to tip her and before I say anything she's apologizing and says as soon as she gets off stage she'll come over to talk. Turns out she was waiting for her boyfriend to give her a ride (why she doesn't drive is another story altogether - maybe a later post), he normally gets off work at 3, but she forgot this day he worked till 6, and she didn't have my phone number to call and let me know. (So we exchange phone #'s). I suggested we try again tomorrow - she says how about 4:00 - I'm thinking okay the Buckeyes play at noon so the game should be over by then (I do have priorities, you know) - so I say OK 4:00 it is. All this actually took place over the course of a couple hours with a few drinks and some really nice lap dances mixed in.
Next day (Saturday) I'm hanging out at home - wife's out of town and the kids are away at college, so nobodies around - around 3:30 ish I start geting ready to go meet her. I'm sort of laughing at myself cause I feel a little nervous like a teenager going on a date -- how ridiculous is that? Anyway my phone rings and it's her number. She's so sorry, but she has to cancel cause her baby has a high fever and can't hold down food and she's taking her to Childrens Hospital (this was at the peak of the H1N1 Flu). I said fine, hope everything turns out OK and I'll call you later in the week.
So, at this point I'm 0 for 2!
The number she gave me was her home phone. She said her cell phone was stolen. I call a couple times the next week but either there's no answer or she answered and said she was busy and could I call back later. I stop in the club a few times over the next few weeks ... as I said before my habit is to stop in after work - arriving around 5 or 6 and leaving between 7 and 8 - if I'm out any later than that the wife would start asking questions. Unfortunately Ms L doesn't usually arrive until 7 or 8 so you can see the problem. The couple times we see each other we had some very enjoyable LD's, shared some stimulating conversation (seriously, that's as much the reason I like her as her smokin hot body!), and continue to discuss OTC possibilities but no definite plans. She mentions more than once that her birthday is coming up ... hint, hint! One other funny sidenote - she tells me her 3 year old dumped the cordless phone in the toilet so whenever she talks on the phone she has to use the speaker phone.
By this time I figure that communication issues are a major impediment to my goal, so a couple weeks ago I bought a prepaid cell phone and a card with an extra $30 of airtime. When I saw her in the club I said "I bought you an early birthday present", and pulled out the phone. She was very excited and cute, and put my number in it and everything seemed very cool.
Since then most of the times I called there's no answer. Once she answered but said she was busy and could I call her later. Last Tuesday I went in the club (after having tried to call several times that day to find out what time she was going in). I saw a waitress who she's friends with and asked her if she gave L a ride to work - she said "No, I haven't talked to her in 3 or 4 days". When I said Ms. L didn't answer her phone, she said she probably lost it or had it stolen. By this time I was just about ready to give up on L. I bought a couple drinks for another dancer, had a pretty fun time talking to her then headed home. The next morning as I'm leaving for work I check my voice mail and there's a message from Ms L. She had arrived at the club after I left and heard I had been there and was sorry she missed me. Just hearing that message (and her voice) got my hopes up again.
Since then I tried her phone Thursday, Friday and Saturday and no answer. Not sure why she hasn't activated the voice mail on that phone.
Now that I've put all this in writing, I realize just what a PL I sound like.
Any comments / suggestions (or dope-slaps across the forehead) from the wise denizens of SCJ would be much appreciated.
Cheers!
KS_Stevia
12-20-2009, 09:55 AM
Flakey stripper. Get dances if you see her in the club. Don't expect more. That was awfully sweet of you to get her a phone though (but I do have doubts she doesn't have a cell phone already).
She's not going to do OTC. She isn't even doing a good job keeping you as a customer, and you seem to be a good customer, proactive, prompt, organized, etc. She's had plenty of chances for your business.
You Know Me
12-20-2009, 03:58 PM
brmcmh,
Just read your own post.....i think you already know, you just want confirmation.
CONFIRMED
3-Legged Man
12-20-2009, 04:17 PM
It might be a good idea for you to invest time and money in the other dancers. Obvious, Ms L is taking you for granted and is unlikely to go through with OTC while you're so willing to accept excuse after excuse. You may actually find another girl that won't play so many games. Time's up. Move on.
Phil-W
12-20-2009, 04:27 PM
.....So, of course, I have a favorite (let's call her Ms. L). She seems very receptive to OTC, and I've been trying to arrange it for a couple of months now, but something always fouls the plans. I'm starting to wonder if she's maybe just stringing me along......
Read no further......
SS: 1. Customer: 0.
Phil.
Richard_Head
12-20-2009, 07:08 PM
Start spending on somebody else, she'll pick up her game if she wants to keep you as a customer.
minnow
12-20-2009, 07:41 PM
YKM, 3 Legger, Phil & R_H all gave good advice. I have a basic question for you to consider for all of your club visits: Aren't there any other dancers that could strike your fancy/float your boat at least nearly as much as the subject dancer? (OTC hints notwistanding).
Somewhere on this site is a piece of advice from Chili Palmer about OTC that I always remember - "The dancer always chooses". If she really wanted to see you OTC, she would make it happen.
Dancers can be complete flakes, but when it comes to an opportunity to make money, they can become incredibly organized and committed quickly and easily. Enjoy her dances in the club, but don't fall into the trap of buying more dances than you really want , or making her car payment, or paying for anything else in the hope that somehow this will motivate her to see you OTC. Remember - she chooses.
brmcmh
12-23-2009, 07:07 PM
Thanks all for the feedback and advice.
yoda57us
12-23-2009, 08:15 PM
You are being played. When a dancer with a boyfriend wants OTC from an older customer with a spouse it is for only one reason: Money. She may let you take her to dinner once in a while to keep you interested in spending money on her ITC but she will most likely keep stalling, canceling or just not showing up. She may have sex with you for money but I doubt it since she wouldn't be stalling you like this.
For what it's worth, I only had to read part one to figure out where this was going...
jasmine22
12-23-2009, 09:18 PM
anyone who has to go on a public forum to brag about some chick they banged.....probably never banged her in the first place. No one cares get a life loser
^^ whose post are you responding to? Or are you talking about the thread in general?
FBR
sadbuttrue
01-25-2010, 10:45 PM
I thought I would tell you folks that I hooked up with the dancer I had talked about (Miss P), the one that brought me to this site about 7 years ago. She was the one I had spent so much time OTC with as friends. Well, a couple of years ago, she and I hooked up for a Friends with Benefits type relationship. It was short-lived about a few months, but was good while it lasted. At least I got some validation for the time and money I spent years ago.
Although I could have made it last longer, I eventually had to say goodbye, because it was not the same any more.
-Sad-
Kellydancer
01-26-2010, 03:03 PM
I just found this thread and not sure whether to laugh, cry or both. First off, I think some stories are BS. I get that many guys dream of screwing dancers. I dream of screwing hot guys. Having said that, I am currently dating a former regular and I'd be disappointed if he was talking about me online (though to be fair we are waiting on the sexual aspects since both of us want that to be special). We started as platonic friends and both of us want a serious relationship. If those of you are serious and having all this sex with dancers, I'd go get a STD test. If you are happy having sex with people you don't care about, more power to you, but not my thing. If you truly want a relationship with a dancer do what my boyfriend is doing and take your time and treat her right.
Now back to your fantasies.
^ If you are holding out the goods your man is probably griping on some site that you don't know about ;) But seriously, don't weep for us. Or for yourself for that matter. The boys get together and talk in the basement. Maybe there are some tall tales thrown about...who knows and frankly who cares?
FBR
Kellydancer
01-26-2010, 09:33 PM
Oh, I am not holding out the goods. Not my style. I would be intrigued if he was here, but he's kind of embarassed he was a customer. Not sure why, but that's how he is. Actually, I wish he would chat about his strip club experiences.
"though to be fair we are waiting on the sexual aspects since both of us want that to be special".
I assumed from this that you are in charge and holding out. Any normal guy who wasn't getting it might smile to his girl but gripe to others. He would be welcome to post his SC adventures.
FBR
Kellydancer
01-26-2010, 10:24 PM
I'm not the one holding out. If it was up to me we'd be going at it.
^ Since you are willing, please let us know when your man wakes up.
FBR
Kellydancer
01-26-2010, 11:11 PM
I already asked him to post but so far he has zero interest. You never know.
fast tan77
03-29-2010, 01:36 PM
Your either the luckest SOB on the the planet or the best liar. Doesn't matter, great story.
hockeybobby
03-29-2010, 03:04 PM
I got one last one for you guys. Alas my days are over.....I think
Well that was a good one. You definitely found your Holy Grail. What do you mean your days are over dude?
You Know Me
03-29-2010, 09:35 PM
Well that was a good one. You definitely found your Holy Grail. What do you mean your days are over dude?
Its been so long and i really have no desire to go back. I dunno it just kind of lost its luster. I am having so much fun hanging out with friends and enjoying the single life that it has just kind of faded. I am not saying that i wont step in another one though. I am going to palm springs all next week and i already have gotten a few calls about what strip clubs we are going to. Haha they are going to be shocked when they notice i am no longer married. I am sure i will tag along one of the nights. I just dont need it now. I am no longer stuck in a loveless marriage and am free to do what i want.
It was a shitload of fun though and i still enjoy this website.
You Know Me
03-31-2010, 09:08 PM
Your either the luckest SOB on the the planet or the best liar. Doesn't matter, great story.
Haha Yah lucky i guess. I have a few more i could post but some of it is just too wild to believe and I know most would call it bullshit. Hell i have a hard time believing some of it. Plus none of those girls fucked with my head like this one...so i would feel bad posting those.
Mr Hyde
04-03-2010, 08:53 AM
what did that "first time" run you?
femmefatale88
04-16-2010, 01:54 AM
how much did you pay her if u dont mind me asking
SPLUT
06-08-2010, 06:45 PM
The fav threw a twist into our relationship last night and now I have to find a new fav. Can't see paying for laps in the club when the otc is much more fun.
You Know Me
07-26-2010, 08:38 PM
how much did you pay her if u dont mind me asking
I paid the same amount that i spent in the club the first time. Which was 3 preview dances and an 1hour in the vip. I figure what the hell i would have spent it in the club anyway and i really wanted to get to know her. I didnt need nakedness...i wanted time with no distractions. I ended up dating her for about 6 months and "It was the best of time and the worst of times"
hockeybobby
07-26-2010, 09:18 PM
The fav threw a twist into our relationship last night and now I have to find a new fav. Can't see paying for laps in the club when the otc is much more fun.
We need an update on this intriguing tidbit Mr. SPLUT.
The fav threw a twist into our relationship last night and now I have to find a new fav. Can't see paying for laps in the club when the otc is much more fun. Sounds like the drama I had with Miss B. After much work ITC I arranged OTC. The first was just oral because I was a dumbass and didn't bring a condom but number two was the HG because I was prepared. Some time after that, she told me she was interested in another guy and couldn't do it any more. I could write a book but I would be afraid that my wife would wonder about the book royalty income.
FBR
SPLUT
07-29-2010, 07:12 PM
Similar tale. The Fav would text me about once a week and we would exchange several messages before she took a run at my wallet, but it was always about coming to the club. One day I get home from the gym and she texts me;
Fav: Do you want to hang out tonight?
Me: In the club?
F: We could go to the club or you could come over to my place.
F: Actually, I'd like to have you over, I've known you long enough and trust you.
I call her and ask if she wants to go get something to eat. She agrees and gives me directions. The PL in me takes control and I start think we are going on a real date. After about 2 minutes of that the Strip Club Junkie in me bitch slaps the PL down and I grab a couple hundred extra and stuff it in my wallet. As I drive to her place I was 99% sure this was a pay date,but that 1% kept a small hope alive.
I get to her place and we just talk for about an hour before she starts to complain about her phone not holding a charge. I told her we could stop on the way and see about getting her phone fixed. We hit up a Metro PCS store and it turns out her phone was water damaged and they wouldn't honor her warranty. She thinks about buying a new phone for a few minutes and I go the feeling that she wanted me to buy it for her, but I stayed the strong, silent type. The clerk swaps out the battery and it worked so she bought a new battery for $20. As she was paying she said "I'm glad you came out tonight, because I'm broke now.that was pretty much The confirmation I needed, but as we drove to eat she hammered it home with a " I should have gone to work tonight and make some money, but its such a nice night I can deal with it". This was a Monday night by the way.
So now I'm 100% sure this is a pay date, but pay for what? She was going to be sorely disappointed if she thought I was going to pay more than a dinner for just her company. At the least I wanted some naked lap dances on her couch. We go get some Thai food and then head back to her place where I light up a joint and we put a buzz on.
We start talking again as I give her a foot massage. She brings it back to money, telling me the club has been really slow lately and she doesn't even have cable as the money has been so sketchy lately. She starts talking about how she wants to get a steady job, and being the typical man I ask her what she wants to do besides dance. I meant it as what kind of a job she would want to do besides dancing. She took it as what did she want to do tonight besides dancing. She busts out with "Well we could do a blow job, or move this over to the bed for some naked fun. Either way I'll take my time". We quickly settle on an amount and head for the bed. A little petting goes on then she asks me if I brought a condom. CRASH. I tell her no, I didn't bring one as I wasn't really sure it would go this far. I tell her to hold on and I would be back in 5 minutes. I hit a nearby gas station and get her a pack of smokes and some Trojans. On the way to the gas station I get 2nd thoughts and think about bailing on her, but I buck up get the rubbers and return.
Let's just say that I've dumped the escort I was seeing because the fav gives much better head. I've seen her OTC a couple of times now and it just seems to get better each time. she keeps saying i should come see her in the club, but I just can't see paying for topless laps when much more is available. Especially since her club has a new owner who raised dance prices and charges you $20 each time you want to use the VIP.
Chili Palmer
07-29-2010, 11:43 PM
...As I drive to her place I was 99% sure this was a pay date,but that 1% kept a small hope alive...
...I got the feeling that she wanted me to buy it for her, but I stayed the strong, silent type...
...She was going to be sorely disappointed if she thought I was going to pay more than a dinner for just her company.
...A little petting goes on then she asks me if I brought a condom. CRASH. I tell her no, I didn't bring one as I wasn't really sure it would go this far.
Let's just say that I've dumped the escort I was seeing because the fav gives much better head. I've seen her OTC a couple of times now and it just seems to get better each time.
Great story, SPLUT. I wonder how many other Junkies reading this were nodding their head each time another detail reminded them of their own experiences. I know I did.
But seriously, dude, NO CONDOMS? Do you not have a "grooming kit" you keep in your car at all times, just in case? For shame, sir.
CP
SPLUT
07-30-2010, 03:47 AM
Live and learn Chili, live and learn. There's a pack of condoms in my glovebox right now.
It appears that Miss D and I will finally be doing the dirty tomorrow. I'm bringing the cash, she's bringing the condoms. More than the POP index but to be honest I don't mind paying a premium. We shall see.
FBR
rickdugan
01-23-2011, 12:48 PM
It appears that Miss D and I will finally be doing the dirty tomorrow. I'm bringing the cash, she's bringing the condoms. More than the POP index but to be honest I don't mind paying a premium. We shall see.
FBR
FBR, congratulations, though I did get a bit of whiplash from this. :)
In the last post I read about her, weren't things fizzling out on the Miss D front? In fact, your posts overall told a tale of a drastic scaleback in spending and other dancer activities.
Now it is condoms and cash...LOL.
Seems like things have taken a turn for the better, so congrats on that too and good luck tomorrow.
yoda57us
01-23-2011, 01:38 PM
It appears that Miss D and I will finally be doing the dirty tomorrow. I'm bringing the cash, she's bringing the condoms. More than the POP index but to be honest I don't mind paying a premium. We shall see.
FBR
There's nothing wrong with paying above POP if you are getting a somewhat known quantity and, in this case, you certainly are. Enjoy every minute of it FBR, you never know when it will be the last time...even when it's the first time!
Rick, you are right in that my spending on her has been almost nothing for the last several months. Partly because I have been more careful but mostly because the ROI just hadn't been there. Miss D pounded me hard this weekend with texts. Business has been bad here lately for most dancers. Anyway, after receiving 4 or 5 texts I asked her for the price of the Full Monty. I assumed I would not get a serious response but instead she quoted a number which while high was manageable.
Thanks yoda for the support in terms of exceeding the POP. As you mentioned Miss D and I have a lot of history. I have no idea how this will all work out but I am optimistic. The thought of finally having sex with her (granted for money so it isn't like I am her BF) does have my juices flowing.
FBR
yoda57us
01-24-2011, 07:38 AM
Thanks yoda for the support in terms of exceeding the POP. As you mentioned Miss D and I have a lot of history. I have no idea how this will all work out but I am optimistic. The thought of finally having sex with her (granted for money so it isn't like I am her BF) does have my juices flowing.
The best sex I've had in the last 20 years has been with women who were not my wife or my GF. Good sex is as much a mental thing as it is physical. The money may have put you in the room with her but once you are in the sack it's just two naked people doing what comes naturally. I'm not suggesting that full PL mode is in order here. You never want to forget what got you there but there is no reason to dwell on it either. Some girls can forget about the envelope full of cash and just have a good time with a guy and some can't really let go. Again, the fact that you and Miss D have a long history should be a big help. Don't over-think the cash aspect of it. Enjoy!
Redwolf
01-24-2011, 01:28 PM
Good luck, FBR. Be safe and have fun.
Things went well. More info to follow.
FBR
yoda57us
01-24-2011, 06:05 PM
Things went well. More info to follow.
FBR
Nice goin' stud! :thumbsup:
hockeybobby
01-24-2011, 09:11 PM
Excellent.
Lklucky
01-24-2011, 10:19 PM
If you don't care to say how much that's cool but can you do a range at least../:O
Smokeless
01-25-2011, 12:22 AM
Hooray!! :party: :party: (Finally.)
yoda57us
01-25-2011, 07:01 AM
If you don't care to say how much that's cool but can you do a range at least../:O
This isn't hustle hut. Sorry but that's just plain tacky...
I spent a half hour writing with some additional details and when I tried to review before posting the site fucked me. I am not going to spend another half hour. I'm pissed. Sorry guys.
FBR
yoda57us
01-25-2011, 09:07 PM
No need to apologize FBR. I for one don't need the details. Just happy to see you two crazy kids get together.;)
So do you think it was a one-time thing or will there be future opportunities?
rickdugan
01-26-2011, 07:33 PM
I spent a half hour writing with some additional details and when I tried to review before posting the site fucked me. I am not going to spend another half hour. I'm pissed. Sorry guys.
FBR
Completely understood. I must admit, however, that after all of the buildup, including the ups and downs you've had with her over time, I was looking forward to reading about your success in securing the prize. ;)
Nonetheless, I am glad that it worked out for you.
No need to apologize FBR. I for one don't need the details. Just happy to see you two crazy kids get together.;)
So do you think it was a one-time thing or will there be future opportunities? Well, from what she said she is eager for more but that could have been a thing of the moment. So I don't know.
FBR