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Rath
06-15-2004, 10:11 AM
that's the great thing about having a brain and using it, Rath. I am free to recognize that "legal" and "illegal" do not always corrolate directly into "right" and "wrong". Witness segregation as a example of this. Throughout history, when any people lived under tyranny, intelligent people had no problem discerning what was important and what was irrelevant and had the wherewithal to do what was right. Surely you aren't implying that Rosa Parks, John Keys, Ghandi and various others should have resorted to mass criminality because they flaunted stupid laws in rebellion?

Your argument sounds very like that of the local cops who assume we're all hookers because our feet are too far apart. That doesn't endear them to me.


There you go making MY point again.

That's EXACTLY my argument. "Legal" and "illegal" do NOT equate with "right" and "wrong". That's what I'VE been saying repeatedly. So how cum every time I say that on the Pink Site, I get jumped on?

My whole point is that when you (you said it above) and your colleagues on the Pink Site say that customers are wrong to want extras cuz extras are illegal, it doesn't make any sense, because that, by itself, doesn't prove your point. You're apparently agreeing with me. Fine. I'd rather agree with you than disagree.

But now you've got to explain why extras are wrong. We've agreed that you can't rely on the fact that they're illegal, because that doesn't prove anything. You've got to say why you REALLY think they're wrong.

And not just wrong for you, but why it's wrong for any customer to even want them. Because THAT'S what the women on the Pink Site keep saying.

Darren
06-15-2004, 10:50 AM
I don't hold the same opinion of men who are single or in open relationships.I do however have a problem with people pretending to be monogomous in a relationship. It's unfair and cruel not to mention the physicaly danger risks that go along with sex


"unfair and cruel"? i don't doubt you. however,it looks like under the right conditions. you are offended by more than just the potential health risks. fine by me, it's a natural reaction. i'm sure that the vast majority of women would probably be both morally offended and concerned about the health risks by their SO cheating. i'm also sure that most women don't give their men permission to sleep with other women. most women would be absolutely devastated by the issue. hell, i'm definately sure most women would have a problem giving their men permission to go to a sc to ,"spend my...uh..our money to watch a bunch of whores take off their clothes.". however, when you say it's one and not the other, it gives the false appearance of trying to be impartial and non-judgmental when that isn't the case at all. most people don't react in a calm and reasonable manner when confronted with this issue.like i said, i have no problem if you are morally offended by the act. i have no problem if you want to have your cake and eat it too, but at least acknowledge it's existence.



Laura, I hope you can see I did/do see your side of this discussion. See my posting above where hopefully I paraphrased your concern. I am hoping you can see I am not attacking you and I am trying to be fair/objective in my comments.

Mr. P makes a very valid point though, let me try to explain.

If we are taking about kissing in a SC and the health risks, that is one thing...

But your comment also spilled over into the area of monogomy and honesty, and mr. p is right on the money when he suggests that most of your married customers that come into the SCs are sneaking around when the come to the SC, they aren't honest with their spouses what goes on, and their spouses sure has hell would be upset if they knew (even if it doesn't go as far as kissing).

While you may draw the line at penetration or kissing, in many spouses minds the difference between sneaking around and getting a table dance, a partial contact dance, a full contact dance, a kiss during the dance, sexual activity during the dance is one of degree.

As hard as it is to swallow, in some people's minds you are the other woman, the paid for other woman.

That is why I think we need to keep this discussion focused on the health risks, and we need to avoid taking into the realm of complete honesty and monogomy because if you bring up the morale issuse ... well in many women's minds their husbands are not being monogomous by going to a SC. Without coming across as cruel, your seeing some defensiveness because you are not acknowledging that you make your living being the paid for other woman. That if it wasn't for men's attitudes you wouldn't be making much of a living doing what your doing. There is the contradiction Mr. P raises.

I know that in your mind (and many people's minds) there is a reasonable distinction between sex/kissing and dancing but it is not so clear in evey woman's mind. I think if you either a.) acknowledge the contradiction, or b.) focus on the health issues only and not the morale issues of paying to see another woman, you will get a better reaction.

Hope that helps.

RCJ
06-15-2004, 11:06 AM
My whole point is that when you (you said it above) and your colleagues on the Pink Site say that customers are wrong to want extras cuz extras are illegal, it doesn't make any sense.

And not just wrong for you, but why it's wrong for any customer to even want them. Because THAT'S what the women on the Pink Site keep saying.


I think it is a safe assumption that people in any profession get approached to do things that are illegal. I know that I do. When confronted with these situations, my decision comes down to my ethics and morals(this is where right from wrong takes over). If I have a moral/ethical issue with doing something that is illegal, my response to my customer is simply, "That's illegal," When I have my salesman shoes on, I have found that discussions relating to morals and ethics can quickly make the other party feel as though you are being judgemental of them, this is poor salemanship. I would also like to add that there are certain illegal requests from customers that infuriate me, where as others do not. I think that the extras topic to a dancer that does not do them would qualify as one of these, hence, the its illegal reply. Morals differ too much and often turn into a very confrontational debate.

Rath
06-15-2004, 11:11 AM
I understand that in the club. But these are supposed to be honest discussion boards. I guess what you're saying is that honest discussion is impossible. I can see that. But to me at least, that just makes these boards a waste of time. I guess I should have known that to begin with.

Rath
06-15-2004, 11:15 AM
But, PS --

But what if you routinely did mostly illegal things in your profession anyway? Wouldn't you say that using illegality as an excuse would then be pretty lame?

PPS -- I've got to repeat this: we're not talking about what someone would say to ward off customers in a club. We're talking about what they say in discussion outside the club, where we're all trying to learn from each other. Don't you see a difference? Wouldn't you state your objections differently, and perhaps a bit more honestly and objectively, if you were talking to some of your friends over a beer?

Rath
06-15-2004, 12:09 PM
Most Bizarre Title Ever Seen On A Thread On A Board Devoted To Strip Clubs

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Biting The Hand (Or Whatever) That Feeds You

[DELETE LINK: I had no idea there was a rule against linking to the "Ladies Only" forum on SW. It makes sense.][If anybody cares, I was, in fact only making fun of the title, not the content of any posts in that thread.]

aggieed
06-15-2004, 12:15 PM
LOL! I was about to comment on that.

You know, I was thinking of discussing the health risks of smoking and second hand smoke in strip clubs...

Chili Palmer
06-15-2004, 12:21 PM
No great loss for this site. She had nothing to add here except a lot of sanctimonious horseshit; let her stay and post among the 100s of "Why Can't I Make Any Money?" threads that litter the pink site.

CP

Tigerlilly
06-15-2004, 12:26 PM
Rath if you are asking for honesty maybe you should try it yourself- I think it's pretty clear you have an agenda with all this extras discussion. I think it's to plant seeds of doubt in dancers minds that unless
they submit to extras they will not continue to earn a good living. You said that isn't your goal. Fine, I'm not going to call you a liar, but if my take on it was wrong how about you clarify what your agenda actually is ???

Also just because people don't see the world exactly as you do doesn't mean they are being dishonest.

For me I didn't want to do contact much less kiss or other extras because I wasn't comfortable with any of it for many reasons, but we'll just call it personal limits in order to save time a web space. And gee what a surprise it must be to you that I earned myself close to a million dollars in less than 10 years doing zero contact, zero extras-- and zero out of the club "dates" So sorry but the put or or get out theroy you were expounding on SW crumbles to the ground ;D

You've been making the statement that all dances are not legal anyway -- including so called clean ones, so what's the big deal. Well sorry but that is incorrect.

It's is totally dependent on locality. In some parts of the country your statement holds true but in many other areas it does not. The point is you do not have the right to expect dancers to do illegal things, sure you can ask but you have no right to do all this complaining because many dancers prefer not to sell what you are trying to buy.

As to why extras are "wrong." My opinion on this is because the legal issues put everyone who makes their living from working there at risk because of your (and the pro's) behavior. People you don't even think of like the cooks, the door girl and so on..... all these people can be arrested (depending on local laws) club owners can lose their liquor licenses (a very expensive loss by the way often over 30 grand) the rest of the dancers can all be arrested and have perm. sex offender records -- the list goes on and on.

Is all that worth you being able to get your high mileage? I don't think so.

I have read all the arguments about why you boys don't just get an escort and I think it's absolute selfish
CRAP. If you boys must buy extras or sex you should only be putting yourself at risk. Anything else is "wrong" in my mind.

In closing I'd like to comment to GoldClub- your response to Laura's pain and rightful anger was one of the most cold hearted things I' ve had the displeasure of reading. It lacked any sense of human compassion. You should be ashamed

Tiger now stepping off the :soapbox:

Rath
06-15-2004, 12:46 PM
Rath if you are asking for honesty maybe you should try it yourself- I think it's pretty clear you have an agenda with all this extras discussion. I think it's to plant seeds of doubt in dancers minds that unless
they submit to extras they will not continue to earn a good living. You said that isn't your goal. Fine, I'm not going to call you a liar, but if my take on it was wrong how about you clarify what your agenda actually is ???

That is INCREDIBLY insulting to the women on the boards. I don't think they're that malleable or stupid, and I think it's a shame that you apparently do. And really, why would I care if a lot women I'm never going to see, who live in cities far from me that I'll never visit, do or don't give extras?

You're never going to believe this, but really what I care about (in discussion) is intellectual honesty. Really


Also just because people don't see the world exactly as you do doesn't mean they are being dishonest.

No. They're being dishonest when (a) they contradict themselves every time they make another post and (b) they make arguments that ignore or misrepresent what they in fact do.


For me I didn't want to do contact much less kiss or other extras because I wasn't comfortable with any of it for many reasons, but we'll just call it personal limits in order to save time a web space. And gee what a surprise it must be to you that I earned myself close to a million dollars in less than 10 years doing zero contact, zero extras-- and zero out of the club "dates" So sorry but the put or or get out theroy you were expounding on SW crumbles to the ground ;D

No it doesn't, Tigerlilly, because the perhaps sad fact is that this industry has been changing and evolving and so is now materially different from when you were working. (I think Melonie has it nailed: once strippers got off the stage and started giving one-on-one dances to customers, it became inevitable that things would ratchet up over the course of the years.) I never denied that it was fairly easy to make a lot of money just talking and flirting and stuff in the 90s. I'm denying that it's easy to do that NOW. Every stripper I know -- including ones who don't do extras -- tells me that's true. And the girls posting on the Pink Site seem to think so, too, when they're not being tendentious on the subject of extras.

Also, you misrepresent me when you say my position is "put out or get out". My position is "get out if you're not making money." If you're making enough money doing what you're comfortable with, then of course you have no reason to get out.


You've been making the statement that all dances are not legal anyway -- including so called clean ones, so what's the big deal. Well sorry but that is incorrect.

That is absolutely NOT what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that since most strippers are already doing a lot of things that are illegal, illegality can't be the real reason for their disinclination to do extras.

I don't know how many times I can repeat this, but here it comes again: I would never say that any girl should do extras who doesn't want to. ALL I'm saying is that, in a disinterested objective discussion, she should be honest about why she doesn't want to.


It's is totally dependent on locality. In some parts of the country your statement holds true but in many other areas it does not. The point is you do not have the right to expect dancers to do illegal things, sure you can ask but you have no right to do all this complaining because many dancers prefer not to sell what you are trying to buy.

Again you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not "complaining" that any stripper won't sell me extras. I get enough of what I want now. I have no reason to complain.

What I'm saying is sort of the obverse: that strippers who won't sell extras can't complain that they can't make enough money. And again, I'm not telling them they have to sell extras. I'm just saying that if you can't make enough money within your limits, then your only option is to find some other kind of work (not because I want you to, but because it's silly to keep doing a job if you're not satisfied with the money you're making). Just don't blame customers for not wanting what you're selling.


As to why extras are "wrong." My opinion on this is because the legal issues put everyone who makes their living from working there at risk because of your (and the pro's) behavior. People you don't even think of like the cooks, the door girl and so on..... all these people can be arrested (depending on local laws) club owners can lose their liquor licenses (a very expensive loss by the way often over 30 grand) the rest of the dancers can all be arrested and have perm. sex offender records -- the list goes on and on.

Is all that worth you being able to get your high mileage? I don't think so.

I continue to think that doesn't make sense. The only mainstream-club arrests I've now heard of -- the ones Lilith described in Jacksonville -- weren't for anything we'd call extras, but for things like women wearing thongs or letting their hair brush against a customer.* THAT doesn't prove your point. SHOW me somewhere where a waitress or a cook -- or another stripper, for that matter -- got arrested for working in a place where some other girl was doing extras. I've never seen it. I've never heard of it. I'm not claiming omniscience, but until someone comes up with a real-life example to back up their parade of horribles there isn't any reason to believe it, is there?
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* I guess there were famous arrests at the Gold Club in Atlanta. But those only involved club management and maybe a few of the women specifically involved.

Tigerlilly
06-15-2004, 01:03 PM
That is INCREDIBLY insulting to the women on the boards. I don't think they're that malleable or stupid, and I think it's a shame that you apparently do.

I don't think that about them - I feel you do.

As for your not believing that entire clubs and all employees can be negatively legally affected by extras- I don't have the patience to go through these sites to point out the many examples, maybe someone else will do so but I will share a personal experience of my own.

In Tampa in 99-2001 many raids took place where they arrested all dancers on shift as well as several customers. I believe Bridgette has a similar story about New Orleans. Ask Lilith about Jacksonville -- come to think of it didn't she tell a story just yesterday about a dancer who was in the dressingroom in her street clothes who got arrested.

Ugh-you know what you are a waste of my time to continue explaining these simple concepts to- I gave you honesty like you asked so you know what-- deal with it ::)

Rath
06-15-2004, 01:07 PM
As for Lilith in Jacksonville, she specifically said that it wasn't for anything we'd call extras.

As for Tampa, thank you for the information. Of course, you know I have to say something argumentative, so let me ask you this: did anybody take a job at one of those Tampa clubs not knowing what went on in them?

(I'm really not trying to be hostile, although I have a pretty strong feeling you don't see it that way.)

Rath
06-15-2004, 01:11 PM
I don't think that about them - I feel you do.

This has been said a million times on a million boards, but the big problem with internet discussion boards is that you can't see the person you're talking to. I'm sure this conversation would be much friendlier and more civilized if we were sitting across a table from each other (I guess it would best be a pretty big table, though, just to make sure things stayed safe) and chatting, being able to see that neither of us is, in reality, a needy near-rapist nor a heartless golddigger.

Tigerlilly
06-15-2004, 01:32 PM
one last thing before I leave you Blue Boys for the day- the Ladies Only link and the heartless joking made about her pain needs to be removed. It's Ladies Only for a reason. And linking and making fun of her like you guys did here is OUT OF LINE.

Rath
06-15-2004, 01:38 PM
That's right. You girls can say all kinds of horrible, insulting, hypocritical, disingenuous, and deluded things about us. But we call you on it, and we're both heartless and invasive of your "girls only" space.

You know what? I'm off both these sites. It's just too fucking weird here. Bye. It's been fun.

Lilith
06-15-2004, 02:52 PM
That's right. You girls can say all kinds of horrible, insulting, hypocritical, disingenuous, and deluded things about us.

Pot, this is kettle. It's all meant without rancor anyways, so don't take it so to heart.



But we call you on it, and we're both heartless and invasive of your "girls only" space.

I'm a long-term poster here and I'm still not entirely clear on whether Pryce deemed it verboten to take from Ladies Only to post elsewhere. You're somewhat new here, so probably didn't know this. I'm fairly sure that he did rule this at some point, though, so you might want to remove the link and double-check this with Pryce.



You know what? I'm off both these sites. It's just too fucking weird here. Bye. It's been fun.


Oh, come now. Don't be over-dramatic; it's only a debate and people can disagree. There's no sense in leaving over one harmless debate and missing all the other fun to be had.

Lilith
06-15-2004, 02:56 PM
Although it's incredibly presumptuous of me to say so, I think one problem here is that some of these women are in denial of the fact that they're sex workers.


That's a lame argument to counter my view that customers need to use some common sense on where they stick their tongues. In fact, it bolsters my call for good judgement; being devil-may-care in regards to your body with sex workers should be an obviously poor idea.

Lilith
06-15-2004, 03:17 PM
There you go making MY point again.

That's EXACTLY my argument. "Legal" and "illegal" do NOT equate with "right" and "wrong". That's what I'VE been saying repeatedly. So how cum every time I say that on the Pink Site, I get jumped on?

You'll have to provide references. I've been on hiatus for eye surgery and, even when I wasn't, did not read every thread, so I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

I can't possibly stress enough that I am not some collective representative of "the Pink Site". I do not embody anyone but me, and I have little control over what others do or say. If they have been unfair to you, all I can say in return is that I have been vocal in my distaste for sexism anywhere it rears its ugly head, including sexism against men on StripperWeb. My defense of what some posters insist upon thinking of as the "Blue Ball Site" has been well noted.



But now you've got to explain why extras are wrong. We've agreed that you can't rely on the fact that they're illegal, because that doesn't prove anything. You've got to say why you REALLY think they're wrong.

Laws on how far apart my feet can be are stupid and prove nothing by way of morality. That does not mean we blithely chuck the entire legal system, including points on theft, murder and assault. No, we instead work to fix bad laws to reflect reality.

Laws concerning acts of prostitution in strip clubs have merit and should be retained. I am a stripper, not a prostitute; blow jobs, Greek and BBFS are not in my job description. I have no issue with strippers who offer more mileage, but business should always be conducted in the proper venue. Prostitutes have their arenas, escorts have theirs, porn stars have their own medium and strippers have the strip clubs. The lines may blur from time to time, but the basic venues need to be upheld lest we cheapen the work of all.

I'm sure genuine escorts and prostitutes are just as incensed by extras strippers who undercut their marketable rates as non-extras strippers are at extras girls undercutting theirs. There is a time and a place, my man, a time and a place.



And not just wrong for you, but why it's wrong for any customer to even want them. Because THAT'S what the women on the Pink Site keep saying.


You seem to err in often assuming that I am some sort of ethereal spirit known as "the Pink Site". I hold my own opinions and am fully responsible for my own posts. Your issues with the posts and opinions of others should be taken up with them.

Lilith
06-15-2004, 03:31 PM
I continue to think that doesn't make sense. The only mainstream-club arrests I've now heard of -- the ones Lilith described in Jacksonville -- weren't for anything we'd call extras, but for things like women wearing thongs or letting their hair brush against a customer.* THAT doesn't prove your point. SHOW me somewhere where a waitress or a cook -- or another stripper, for that matter -- got arrested for working in a place where some other girl was doing extras. I've never seen it. I've never heard of it. I'm not claiming omniscience, but until someone comes up with a real-life example to back up their parade of horribles there isn't any reason to believe it, is there?
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Again, my clubs. The raid last May came from one gal openly prostituting; they just rounded up every other girl, the DJ and the manager while they were at it. Jacksonville Sheriff's Office gets a kickback for every strip club arrest, so all the other girls got a vague "violation of adult entertainer code", the manager was taken for the same reason and the DJ arrested for "obstruction of justice" (he tried to tell the cops that it wasn't fair to arrest everyone simply because they wanted that one hooker).

That's the method here. They hear about a club with a dirty dancer, then show up and haul everyone off to let the judge sort it out in the morning. Even if they were really just bored and felt like raiding, that's what they use for the judge. "We had a tip on prostitution, so..."

goldclubbing
06-15-2004, 04:33 PM
Wow! Hard to believe so much venom concerning kissing, deep throat or otherwise! Tigerlilly hard to believe that what I wrote is the most cold hearted thing you have ever read or heard...you need a much thicker skin...are you sure your a stripper? As for Laura...I was not minimizing her pain or her sisters or exbrother in law, if it was taken that way I do appologize...I'm not a malicious person. However, I do think some of you ladies need to find other work because your deluding yourselves about what you do and how you do it. From some of the comments I read on the pink site you would think you guys are nurses instead of STRIPPERS! You sit on married mens laps all day for money and except drinks and attention from them and are somehow disgusted by those same men? And yes I do know dancers who hate men or have been wronged by men and that is why they dance...to screw over men. But not all men who are your clients are pigs. I for one like to enjoy a SC from time to time with my SO. I know many men find that silly but how about you ladies? Hard to take advantage of a man when his wife is with him. If what you do and the people you do it for are disgusting get another job. These clubs would not exist without women working in them...so aren't you ladies part of the problem you are mentioning here...you offer an opportunity for infidelity and the kind of problems Laura and the rest mention. But I know its hard to make one million dollars in ten years at a normal job...so be thankful men are pigs sometimes so your not working for $10 an hour at Macys! PS: Laura, it is crappy what happened to your sister and being a father and a happily married monogomous man I would go insane if my SO ruined that. My only point was we all need to have fun sometimes, and yes kissing is part of that, life is too short and much to serious these days.

sander8son
06-15-2004, 05:26 PM
well, i think we can all agree: extras are great. you have no idea how much money i made in one of the stalls in the mens room last night giving bjs!!!!! sure i had to give one of the bouncers 10% to keep quiet, but small price to pay.

oh, the comment about some of the ladies on the pink site being in denial about stripping being a sexual industry(or however it was phrased) is dead on. wether or not it has any relevance to this topic, i dont know, and i dont care.

hey, what is the topic anyway?

hmmmmm, should i comment on the ladies only issues here? my thing is, ive only personally met and inspected the genitalia of two of the supposed ladies on here, and both tested positive for vagina(negative for penis, incase you were currious). so if either of them posts in ladies only, i know its a lady. EVERY other "lady" that starts a topic in there or replies is possibly a man or woman in my opinion. hell, maybe i have a female character that i use to post in there? (id be smart enough to log on from a different location, use different words and grammer.....so no, you wouldn't know).

i respect the ladies only section by not posting in it. i do read it from time to time(when im really bored). so although posting links out of it is "wrong", creating a female character would technically be "right". however, if you ask me, id rather people be themselves and not create various names and just post away. so although linking out of ladies only may be discouraged, i think its still better than the accepted and unprovable alternative.
*MODIFIED TO ADD: the "right" to post in ladies only is determined solely on ones sellection of female gender and not based on gender tests. and there's no rule/law stating that if you have a penis you can't select female as your gender in an online forum.*

also, laura's sisters situation does suck, theres no denying that. her sis' ex hubby is a douchebag and i think we'll all be chearing his slow death.....the link from the ladies only site of her post was a more indepth post of what she had stated here. so i really dont see that in-linking as being that heinous a crime (its not like any extras were committed ;D lol)

ok, law crap time. yes, if the pigs wants to arrest a girl, or everygirl in the club, they can easily find some minor reason(non-extras) to do it. so i can see where you'd say that you can get arrested anyway, so illigallity of extras is mute. HOWEVER, with severity brings extra scrutiny. holding a customers hand is far less likely to draw a red flag than blowing a customer stage side(yes, i picked extremes, i know). so the more prevalent and more hardcore the extras are, the more likely the club will be busted.

ladies, dont praise me yet. i like to take a third side to pretty much every debate and argue for and against both sides. personally(regardless of wether or not i look for extras or not) feal that there is nothing wrong with "extras" dances/dancers.

life sucks huh?

mr_punk
06-15-2004, 06:34 PM
Most Bizarre Title Ever Seen On A Thread On A Board Devoted To Strip Clubs

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Biting The Hand (Or Whatever) That Feeds You


one last thing before I leave you Blue Boys for the day- the Ladies Only link and the heartless joking made about her pain needs to be removed. It's Ladies Only for a reason. And linking and making fun of her like you guys did here is OUT OF LINE.or maybe not. you know, after i read her "confession" concerning her sister. i didn't bother to respond to the issue. it could have been a genuine statement or it could be as genuine as a stripper's SOB story. laura doesn't post here much. i haven't seen enough of her posts to judge her veracity. if i just took her statement at face value. i would be inclined to go with the former. however, there were some statements in that SW post that gives me pause.



That's a lame argument to counter my view that customers need to use some common sense on where they stick their tongues. In fact, it bolsters my call for good judgement; being devil-may-care in regards to your body with sex workers should be an obviously poor idea.i'm not sure, but i think he was responding to my comment (reply #54), Lilth.

CrescentLuna
06-16-2004, 01:44 AM
Hey, I asked an escort, she said she does kiss her customers, and one girl that had worked at a massage parlor and she said she had only once.
So there.

Anyway, I think part of my particular reasons are a blend of hygiene and morals and purely, occasionaly, dislike. I will dislike you if you whine for a kiss, no matter how fresh your breath is and if I was unattached.

SportsWriter2
06-16-2004, 07:07 AM
Ever get this? It's my first dance with a girl who's exactly what I like. She's coming in close with her face, like she might want "touch and go" kisses. On the third pass her right lower lip connects with my right upper lip and she barely kisses. Then she comes back the same way with her tongue slightly out. :P

I didn 't have time for more dances, but just as well. I need time to decide about her. :-\

Nina
06-16-2004, 12:41 PM
A few of the extra's girls at one of my clubs kiss customers... They usually deal with regulars though- and I'm sure each guy wants to believe he's the only one and is special, but come on now over the course of 8 hours these chicks probably see 4-6 regualrs and 2-6 non regs... figure she's deep throating most of the regs and 1/2 of the non's and I'm betting these guys should make sure they have some extra $$$ left over for the doctor. Completely gross IMHO --no protection and it's visible to the entire floor.

Isis
06-17-2004, 12:13 AM
No way.... yuck ! anytime customers ask for that or try that its the end of the dance then & there

SportsWriter2
06-17-2004, 02:05 PM
Sometimes I have to take a holistic health approach. One of my favorites had a cold, and she was sooo sad that she couldn't kiss me. We did a private room and started deep kissing instinctively. Too late to turn back, so we just kept doing it.

She apologized, but i explained that being older, I probably had resistance to her cold virus. And she felt loved, so that was good for her immune system. She felt fine the next day, and I never got the cold.

Kids who go to pre-school get more colds than kids who stay home, but the pre-school kids develop resistance to more viruses by the time they reach elementary school.

Katrine
06-17-2004, 04:43 PM
Wow, what a shitstorm I started, rawr!!!

lestat1
06-17-2004, 04:47 PM
It is possible that a guy could be so desperate for even a kiss that he'd risk a deadly disease for one. Give me a couple more years and I'll let you know for sure. :'(

rickdugan
05-30-2013, 05:11 PM
^ You're a hero dude. Seriously. ::)

More importantly though, you bumped an ancient thread. Most of the people involved in the original discussion don't even post here anymore.