View Full Version : "Listen up, fellow Democrats"

Jay Zeno
11-07-2004, 12:16 AM
From a pretty successful one.

Casual Observer
11-07-2004, 05:53 AM
WJC was one of the few Dems that consistently and notably said not to underestimate GWB and his crew. No one listened to him then, and they're not listening now.

11-07-2004, 06:36 AM
Great link, JZ...

I found this bit especially interesting:

"In his speech on Friday to the Urban Land Institute, Clinton attributed Kerry's loss to the Democrats' failure to counter how Republicans portrayed them to rural and small-town voters.

Democrats "need a clear national message and they have to do this without one big advantage the Republicans have, which is they won't have a theological message that basically paints the other guy as evil".'

I'm sure a few Democrats are hearing Bill on that one...

11-07-2004, 08:50 PM
"If we let people believe that our party doesn't believe in faith and family, doesn't believe in work and freedom, that's our fault," he said.

The quote above about sums it up to me, Rove did a masterful job of not only defining the republican party as he see's it, but also the democratic party as he wants it to be seen and people just ate it up.

11-08-2004, 05:38 AM
Yup, RH, that bit about "faith and family" is pretty scary.

The last thing we need is for more people from another party jumping on that bandwagon. I bitch a lot about Fundamentalist/Republican ties, but there are many Democrats who also knuckle under to the "faith" and "family values" issues, and this has been going on for a while now--even if there are a lot less of them.

In spite of our much-vaunted Separation of Church and State, imagine an atheist running for President. Even though God has heretofore done little or nothing to balance the Budget, keep the economy running smoothly, or even keep whackos from blowing up the WTC and killing several thousand of His Own worshippers, noone could ever win that race without His Help, it seems.

11-08-2004, 07:26 AM
The scopes monkey trial, prohibition and other movements of virtue and values proliferated until the depression and finally a world war. Sometimes it takes some powerful reminders out there I guess to keep people focussed on the ball of survival.