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RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 05:13 PM
Most seem to figure in that we're 'easier'......We'd be easier to fuck with, etc. It'd be something of a trophy that you could float around to your friends,"Dude, I am dating a stripper".

I've seen some just say "Well, She's naked. Might as well go see if I can fuck her"....If Half of the guys in a club thought that. Would you understand that could be one of the reasons why a lot of strippers won't date customers? She doesn't want to be seen as a piece of meat.

I'd date guys that weren't customers, and as soon as they found out I did 'stripping'....Sexual Questions come. I'd sit there wondering were they serious.

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 05:17 PM
Then don't reat us like suckers who were born yesterday and are too stupid to discern between "Wow I love your tatts - lets go get busy in the champaign room" and real interest lol...

My number one pet peeve in a club is a girl who fakes interest to get $... If I think you are hot, and u know how to move, you will get paid, and I won't ask for any stupid extras or make rude comments... I expect a dance, not a GF... now if this is real interest, then bring it on ;) lol
We are selling something, It's called hustling. Yes, we have to compliment you to get something out of you. We can't say,"You're really damn ugly. Would you like a dance?"......Maybe that'd work for someone who was deaf, but not for the general population. She might be interested in you but if you're paying out 500 at the end of the night, You just got played, my friend.

Some dancers might be interested, Who knows. But it's a business.....We need to pay our bills as much as you do.

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:17 PM
Most seem to figure in that we're 'easier'......We'd be easier to fuck with, etc. It'd be something of a trophy that you could float around to your friends,"Dude, I am dating a stripper".

I've seen some just say "Well, She's naked. Might as well go see if I can fuck her"....If Half of the guys in a club thought that. Would you understand that could be one of the reasons why a lot of strippers won't date customers? She doesn't want to be seen as a piece of meat.

I'd date guys that weren't customers, and as soon as they found out I did 'stripping'....Sexual Questions come. I'd sit there wondering were they serious.
I see ur points, althouh I disagree w/ them somewhat... Personally my friends would be more impressed if I was dating a med student...

As far as "Well, she's naked, might as well go see if I can fuck her," what about the STRIPPERS, who upon leaving the club and walking through the parking lot, saw what I drive and asked me if I wanted to party? Was that because they were interested in ME as a person, or cause they thought I could afford a Kg of blow?

You are fun to argue w lol...

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:20 PM
We are selling something, It's called hustling. Yes, we have to compliment you to get something out of you. We can't say,"You're really damn ugly. Would you like a dance?"......Maybe that'd work for someone who was deaf, but not for the general population. She might be interested in you but if you're paying out 500 at the end of the night, You just got played, my friend.

Some dancers might be interested, Who knows. But it's a business.....We need to pay our bills as much as you do.
No, you don't need to be told that you are ugly as a customer lol, but shouldn't it be up to the customer to solicit the dance? He (or she) is the one paying...

And if $500 is nothing to you, as it is for many men that frequent NYC SCs, then I don't consider that getting played, I consider it getting entertained...

DeepGreen
12-01-2004, 05:20 PM
Hmmmm...sounds like some customers here are desperate for validation or permission to hit on dancers. /:O IMHO, I agree with Rose (and the other similar posts by dancers)--SC's are fun, it's great to talk to strippers--but if you are going there to try to get a stripper to date/go home with you, you are there for the wrong reason, and are likely to annoy many dancers.

I would suggest listening to the dancers on the board. Seems like the universal sentiment among these women is that they want to be treated with respect, and do not like to be asked out by customers. Period. Please believe them. :soapbox:

My two cents.

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 05:21 PM
I see ur points, althouh I disagree w/ them somewhat... Personally my friends would be more impressed if I was dating a med student...

As far as "Well, she's naked, might as well go see if I can fuck her," what about the STRIPPERS, who upon leaving the club and walking through the parking lot, saw what I drive and asked me if I wanted to party? Was that because they were interested in ME as a person, or cause they thought I could afford a Kg of blow?

You are fun to argue w lol...
Well, Here's the difference in that......It wasn't inside the club. It was outside, was it not? What we do in our daily life is a completely different than what idiot we hit on in a club.

If you go in a strip club and say you flash around $5,000 bucks. You'll have about 15 strippers running to get to you. Now do you think they give a shit about what the name of your cat is, or how you cried when Bambi died? "Fraid not.

I am saying in general.

A strip club is for fun. We make money, You enjoy the show, etc.

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:22 PM
Hmmmm...sounds like some customers here are desperate for validation or permission to hit on dancers.
Not my point at all... my point is simply that I think many more dancers than let on to it on this board have or do date customers, that's it...

Vyanka
12-01-2004, 05:23 PM
Russ....


Bro, it's ENTERTAINMENT. LOL. She complimented you, & asked you to the champagne....Hello, trying to make a lil living. She's not trying to pick you up, c'mon now.

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 05:24 PM
And girls like pretty cars in general ;)

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:26 PM
Well, Here's the difference in that......It wasn't inside the club. It was outside, was it not? What we do in our daily life is a completely different than what idiot we hit on in a club.

If you go in a strip club and say you flash around $5,000 bucks. You'll have about 15 strippers running to get to you. Now do you think they give a shit about what the name of your cat is, or how you cried when Bambi died? "Fraid not.

I am saying in general.

A strip club is for fun. We make money, You enjoy the show, etc.
The incident I was referring to happened in a SC parking lot... that's not "daily life" - still a SC environment if you ask me...

And no, I don't think they care about my cats name, nor do I want them to... I want them to dance and thats it, I don't need to be showered w/ praise in order to pay up lol...

I'm just saying, on a rare occassion a dancer might find something diff about a customer for some reason and actually say something like that which she means...

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:27 PM
Russ....


Bro, it's ENTERTAINMENT. LOL. She complimented you, & asked you to the champagne....Hello, trying to make a lil living. She's not trying to pick you up, c'mon now.
Darling, that was a hypothetical situation... never really happened, I was just trying to make a point... ;)

DSUsb19
12-01-2004, 05:28 PM
If you go in a strip club and say you flash around $5,000 bucks. You'll have about 15 strippers running to get to you. Now do you think they give a shit about what the name of your cat is, or how you cried when Bambi died? "Fraid not.
;D ;D Lol, Rose. You need to start an advice column. You beat the heck out of Dr. Laura.

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 05:28 PM
It can happen......But just because a customer in a strip club with 50 bucks to spare gets a compliment about his yellow teeth doesn't mean that it's love.

Vyanka
12-01-2004, 05:31 PM
It can happen......But just because a customer in a strip club with 50 bucks to spare gets a compliment about his yellow teeth doesn't mean that it's love.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Sorry Russ, I misread but you get my drift. ;)

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:33 PM
It can happen......But just because a customer in a strip club with 50 bucks to spare gets a compliment about his yellow teeth doesn't mean that it's love.
When did I ever say anything remotely similar to that? lol

Anyway, I have to go to the gym... need to get ripped so ALL STRIPPERS WILL LOVE ME AND WANT TO TAKE ME HOME FOR FLASHING A TWENTY

And Rose, darling, you are an annomoly...

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:36 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Sorry Russ, I misread but you get my drift. ;)
:P

DJRR
12-01-2004, 05:43 PM
It's anomaly, But I know ;) Spelled it wrong on purpose to see if you'd correct me - CONTROL FREAK haha... tty ladies... :)

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 05:44 PM
When did I ever say anything remotely similar to that? lol

Anyway, I have to go to the gym... need to get ripped so ALL STRIPPERS WILL LOVE ME AND WANT TO TAKE ME HOME FOR FLASHING A TWENTY

And Rose, darling, you are an annomoly...
It's spelled anomaly but I know ;)

Casual Observer
12-01-2004, 06:12 PM
Most of the customers aren't classy, and some are dogs. This is sadly very true. It's also why I generally have a great time at a club--separating wheat from chaff, if you will.

:D


Then don't reat us like suckers who were born yesterday and are too stupid to discern between "Wow I love your tatts - lets go get busy in the champaign room" and real interest lol... Dude, the reason that RD and the other girls here post as they do is specifically because most guys in strip clubs are suckers who break at the first sign of a good hustle and lose their grip on reality; they enter the club without realistic expectations.

Your continued efforts to get girls here to get validation for picking up chicks at strip clubs is making the rest of us PLs look good, dude.

countrywitch
12-01-2004, 06:13 PM
I think theres a fair chance that the dancers that we're aquainted with here on SW are largely the exception to the rule. They have computers,internet access,a place to put a computer...electricity that hasent been shut off..etc etc...this alone weeds out a goodly percentage. The idea of "strippers" is a poor generalization too,theres LOTS of strippers.some work at Scores,some work at the litle shithole bar out behind the truckstop,Theres a wide variety,with diverse motivations and countless possible responses to any of a zillion possible scenerios.Kinda like regular girls anywhere else.You all know shitloads of strippers will date a custy,whole bunches of em never would,some will blow ya for a stamp bag in the shitter of the shell station.I kinda think we're dealin with the smarter,more inteligent ones here. Like Casual Observer said earlier,the ones you'd like to date mostly wont,and the ones that are easy are probably more trouble than they're worth. Oh well... my .02

Casual Observer
12-01-2004, 06:19 PM
Like Casual Observer said earlier,the ones you'd like to date mostly wont,and the ones that are easy are probably more trouble than they're worth.

Casual Observer's Universal Stripper Conundrum is a right bitch.

: sigh :

yoda57us
12-01-2004, 07:16 PM
It's easy JZ. I just look for cute, responsible, drug-free dancers who would be interested in taking money from a sincere, deep thinker such as myself.

officegangsta
12-01-2004, 07:48 PM
A strip club is for fun! Buy dances, talk to strippers, etc....Have fun! If you 'connect' with someone, Whatever floats your boat. That says it all, IMHO. Bullseye! Very refreshing to see a realist point of view. :D

bigteninch
12-01-2004, 08:09 PM
generalizations make it easy to make the complex simple. like, oh your a dentist - have you thought of suicide lately... or, oh she has her closthes off, she must be easy and lonely too - chances are good that she already has a S/O, but that doesn't stop everybody either...

so what does someone go there for? enjoy some converstation with an attractive person within a somewhat more sexual situation? I personally believe if a person is looking for someone to "meet" they would have better luck at the Gap.

I think the original posting that pasted the obvious generalizations on here to be very amusing, since it summed up all the typical shit a typical friend of mine would say after he was unsuccessful at getting a girls number after spending a few dollars for a few minutes of a girls time...

oh yeah, and just maybe it's against policy both the clubs and the girl's

bambiblue
12-01-2004, 08:47 PM
Lmao! that was funny in a purely entertainment value sorta way!

Oh my god...was that funny or what?

DJRR
12-01-2004, 08:56 PM
The idea of "strippers" is a poor generalization too,theres LOTS of strippers.some work at Scores,some work at the litle shithole bar out behind the truckstop,Theres a wide variety,with diverse motivations and countless possible responses to any of a zillion possible scenerios.
very good point...

Fuschia
12-01-2004, 09:16 PM
Okay, this is the part that irks me:

>2.) The above listed argument that most strippers are married or have SOs... I personally don't think this is true... Most of you say that you are stripping ONLY for the money - if that's the case, then you wouldn't be stripping if you didn't need the money, i.e your SO was taking care of you the way he should be... if you don't need that income, then the whole "doing it ONLY for the $" argument is totally out the window...<



This doesn't even make sense. How many people really make enough money to support their SO and maybe some kids? Any how many women would take it? At least half the strippers I know are married or long term with someone. Another quarter have bf/gfs. I think maybe a fourth of the girls in my club are actually single. And we all need money. We work. I don't know if maybe the people you know are different than the people I know, but few women I know live off an SO. And few guys I know make enough to totally support a family.

So either you're arguing that strippers are all really single (and therefore fair game) or that they aren't single and are stripping for some other reason than money. I for one am really single, but have never dated a customer. I just can't buy that someone has spoken to me for 3 minutes, already likes me so much, wants to take me out, thinks I'm special, blah blah blah. I also don't give out my number to guys in regular bars, until I have spoken to them for awhile, preferably while neither one of us is intoxicated, which generally means, I don't give out my number anywhere where people are drunk. This is often a bad idea, I've found.

We aren't necessarily better than people, but this is our job. I've gone into a store and though the sales guy was hot (Hello Express Guy! :), but I don't try and hit on him because he's at work. When he expesses interest in what I'm buying, I know it's part of his job and his sales pitch. It doesn't make him a bad person. He's making a sale. He's working because he needs money, and maybe a killer discount on clothes. I don't get how stripping is any different...

Fuschia

All Good Things
12-01-2004, 09:20 PM
Look, they're performers. You don't get mad at a stage actress because her profession of interest on stage isn't "real." Of course it isn't real. She's an actress. How hard is this to comprehend?



Edit note: The post responded to was deleted, so it made this post irrelevant... but this part was pithy :) - JZ

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 09:23 PM
Just ignore SomeDumbGuy you guys....He's just trying to start crap.

Ignore him, and have fun! Jay will take care of it eventually.

DJRR
12-01-2004, 09:24 PM
Okay, this is the part that irks me:

>2.) The above listed argument that most strippers are married or have SOs... I personally don't think this is true... Most of you say that you are stripping ONLY for the money - if that's the case, then you wouldn't be stripping if you didn't need the money, i.e your SO was taking care of you the way he should be... if you don't need that income, then the whole "doing it ONLY for the $" argument is totally out the window...<



This doesn't even make sense. How many people really make enough money to support their SO and maybe some kids? Any how many women would take it? At least half the strippers I know are married or long term with someone. Another quarter have bf/gfs. I think maybe a fourth of the girls in my club are actually single. And we all need money. We work. I don't know if maybe the people you know are different than the people I know, but few women I know live off an SO. And few guys I know make enough to totally support a family.


Fuschia
Hmmm... maybe it's different around here... personally I know that I wouldn't get married or have kids if I didn't have enough income to support my growing fam... any money my wife makes will be icing on the cake...

I'd agree w you that maybe 1/2 of the dancers are married or have serious SOs - to me that means the other 50% are basically single or actually single...

DJRR
12-01-2004, 09:27 PM
we don't go to work, take our clothes off and dance around in your laps for a hobby.
awww shucks lol :boxedin:

Fuschia
12-01-2004, 09:37 PM
Well, if you live in NJ, you're going to have to wait a LONG time to afford to get married then! I spent most of my life in NJ, and well, I can't afford to live comfortably there. I don't think most people wait until they can fully support a family to get married-it's not 1890! Most of my friends from NJ work(except for a few unemployed ones right now), and so do their SOs. NJ is not so different from Ohio.

Also, I said maybe a fourth were single. Still, it doesn't mean we are looking. Or looking in the club. Or that we want to be hit on at a club. I can't imagine getting mad that Express guy wouldn't date me-"but I bought a shirt!!".

Fuschia

VenusGoddess
12-01-2004, 09:39 PM
5, 4, 3, 2, 1...and the eject button has been pressed!! ;D

RoseDelight
12-01-2004, 09:39 PM
Wooooohoooooooo! Go Jay!





Edit note: ;D - JZ

Fuschia
12-01-2004, 09:42 PM
Does that mean we can get back to arguing like normal people then? ::)

Fuschia

DJRR
12-01-2004, 09:44 PM
Well, if you live in NJ, you're going to have to wait a LONG time to afford to get married then!


Nah, I'm good now financially if I had the right person... right person is def harder to come by than money... everything def is overpriced around here tho... a million bucks doesn't even get you a really impressive house anymore - normal 5 BR colonial, I mean nice, but not MTV cribs style...




Also, I said maybe a fourth were single. Still, it doesn't mean we are looking. Or looking in the club. Or that we want to be hit on at a club. I can't imagine getting mad that Express guy wouldn't date me-"but I bought a shirt!!".

Fuschia


Again, who ever said anything about being mad if a stripper didn't want to date me? Never mentioned anything of the sort, yet you all seem to keep refuting a point that I never made - perhaps someone else did...

yoda57us
12-02-2004, 07:28 AM
Most of you say that you are stripping ONLY for the money - if that's the case, then you wouldn't be stripping if you didn't need the money, i.e your SO was taking care of you the way he should be... if you don't need that income, then the whole "doing it ONLY for the $" argument is totally out the window
DJRR, you may have missed it, but some time in the 20th century women became strong, independant and self-sufficient. Even a married woman wants and often needs income of her own for any variety of reasons not the least of wich is self respect and control of her own destiny.

Also, I may have missed it but I don't recall any dancer posting that they don't date customers because they think that they are too good for us.

Djoser
12-02-2004, 01:37 PM
Maybe it was written by a guy.

But I wish you could hear some of the stories that my girlfriend tells me when she comes home. I have been a DJ for four years, and good friends with dancers for longer than that, and I still hear stuff that amazes me.

There are some days that she hates customers, period. Not that all of them are bad, or deserve it, but because so goddamned many just cannot get the concept through their heads--it's just entertainment!

They constantly ask her out. Every fucking night, in a zillion different ways--mostly rude, stupid, and predictable.

She actually had a guy with a modicum of class ask her out about a week ago. He was intelligent, respectful, not a perv, made a lot of money, reasonably good-looking, actually paid her to sit and talk with him when he came in the next night, instead of going to VIP, etc., etc. But guess what...

He still asked her if she had a boyfriend within 10 minutes of meeting her--a dead giveaway he wanted to ask her out, which he of course did, the next night, in a pretty serious way.

This guy was cool, relatively speaking. But he still made the assumption that it was OK to move forward so quickly, simply because she was wearing a g-string.

I have heard my girlfriend say basically the same things as the original poster many, many times, including the scathing references to dick size. It's only human to react badly to constant harassment, and at least it was done with some humor, if a bit more vitriol than many are comfortable with.

toxicgirl
03-12-2005, 01:08 PM
i liked this post. why? because many guys i meet otc seem to think they can treat me like garbage. half the time i lie about my work. i have not met a single guy who can treat me as more than a cum dumpster or emotional punching bag. many of them want to come to my work and watch me naked and not tip. they make comments about how i look. they piss me off, because i want someone who sees more than the exterior. yep, i'm becoming more of a man hater by the second. sorry boys...

fancygirl
03-13-2005, 02:44 AM
Wow. Somebody is really, seriously pissed off.

I wonder if this was built on an existing list of reasonably accurate observations. Each of the items starts out with an interesting point, but then veers off the road and sails over the cliff.

Also, it doesn't sound like something a dancer would write. It sounds like something a guy thinks a dancer would write (note the obsession in repeatedly insulting dick size, which is a dead giveaway).

Plus women don't generally use the word "fag." It's more of a guy's curse word...though that's just a generalization-- I've found it to be true.

SupportiveBF
03-13-2005, 03:10 AM
Okay, in response to the original post, if this is was a girl who wrote this, I can't imagine she makes much money, unless she's ridiculously hot and can be a bitch without having it matter much, AND she was having a really bad day, otherwise it's dude with a girlfriend who strips and he doesn't like it. Now, as far as all this asking dancers out stuff, what is the problem with that? Yes, I know it happens all the time, the girls don't want to date these guys, yadda yadda yadda, but how many guys ask girls out at their place of work every damn day? A good looking girl is going to get hit on whether she's dancing or serving burgers, it won't matter what she does, so why are the guys asking these really attractive, sexy dancers out, so much different?

dancerlala
03-13-2005, 03:37 AM
I actually think a girl wrote it. People have many different sides, and MANY people become more fearless when writing, rather than speaking. It's a chance for the alter-ego to fly, so the author could be a sweet-as-pie top earner, you really don't know.
Here's the deal. I wouldn't date a man I met in a strip club, NO MATTER WHAT. Wanna know why? It has nothing to do with any of the previous reasons mentioned. I don't think I'm better than customers, or think that they're all pervs, or they have smalldicks or blah blah blah. It's this, and I will try to say this as clearly as I understand it in my own head. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but it's the sad truth:
There was a time when we didn't know that you could buy another person. There was a time when we didn't know that you could suspend someone else's needs or desires or boundaries, or even identity just to fulfill your own. We called that time "childhood". Then we grew up, and learned about money, and everything changed. One the one hand, I'm glad people learned they could use each other/or suspend another's will, as long as the price was right - otherwise I'd be out of a job. But do I want that same man as my boyfriend or partner. Uh, how can I say this, FUCK NO!
I want the kind of man who says, "I just don't get strip clubs. They seem creepy. I know the women just want the money, they don't really want me. God I'd rather just give them the money than pay for the charade." I met a guy like that. I fell in love. He's never been inside a strip club and doesn't want to go. He has retained a piece of childhood that I find extremely compelling. There are some things money shouldn't buy.
I hope this makes sense.

SupportiveBF
03-13-2005, 03:44 AM
I think that makes sense dancerlala. The only difference I have with your boyfriend is I do get strip clubs, not so much because I enjoy them, although I do like to watch my gf dance, but I see the appeal it has for other men. Also, I want to understand as much about the work that my lady does as I can, so I do go to her club, talk to the other girls, etc. As far as not wanting to date a customer, that I understand, it's the disgust so many girls seem to have for guys even asking them out. Just say no, it's what girls do in every job, in every situation when they get asked out by a guy they don't want to date. You don't have to be disgusted by it, you're not entitled to be immune to getting asked out, just say no and move one like every other woman in the world.

AmericanDreams
03-13-2005, 03:59 AM
DJoser said it so well.
Too many of the customers just can't seem to accept the fact that it is just entertainment.

It's really a shame to because I think those guys would enjoy the clubs so much more if the could just deal with that fact

There aren't too may places where a 10 will cuddle and chat up a guy who is less than appealing in one form or another.

I just wish more guys could or would just enjoy it for what it is instead of trying to make it into something it is not.

Silky
03-13-2005, 05:14 AM
I would like to hear from the dancers' who married guys they met in the club ?? I remember reading their posts before somewhere. I think they would have some good input on this matter. Oh and as for the stereotyping that was mentioned on this thread earlier... Each type of customer will run into a different kind of dancer, or each dancer will eventually run into a certain type of customer. ... There are dancers who are into encounters after the club and dancers that are not.... they will eventually find the customers who are into encounters after the club..and there is your match...Obviously they will not match with the customers who are not looking for any encounter outside the club. Both dancers and customers can be seen as the seekers. Some seek money for dances. Some may seek more. On both ends of the tip rail. Sorry I rambled I am tired... bottom line is.. overall I think each type of person in the strip club envioment will seek to find an individual who will suit their needs. There may be some dancers who want needs fufilled beyond the club, and customers who do not want any needs fufilled beyond the club =)

anonymous1
03-13-2005, 08:18 AM
I actually liked it. Some days I do feel this sort of extreme loathing for the men in my club. Some guys are ok but we are still ulitmately there to make money. I thought it was a pretty funny post and I would like to repeat it to those customers who think they can lick us and grab us.

SupportiveBF
03-13-2005, 08:47 AM
The post wasn't talking about licking and grabbing you. No one ever said that was ok, it only went off on guys who ask dancers out. What is the problem with that? My gf gets asked out countless times every night, and often a marriage proposal or two a week, but it's just funny to her, not something she comes home and complains to me about. Why don't more dancers just see this as part of the game and like I said earlier, say no.

Super Cecil
03-13-2005, 09:10 AM
Why do so many male customers want to date strippers?

because it's human nature everyone at one time can be compared to a child
in a play pen. we can have as many toys as we like in the play pen. but if we see a prettier or shiner toy outside the pen we will scream until we get it.

and i've been a victim of this as well. no one is immune.

All Good Things
03-13-2005, 02:20 PM
i have not met a single guy who can treat me as more than a cum dumpster or emotional punching bag

TG, I've always liked your fierce independence and great wit. But this is just plain hearbreaking. Please consider giving the obnoxious shitheads a pass. Maybe the respectful guys piss you off, too, but please remember we are out here.

screaminpeachez
03-13-2005, 03:10 PM
5- Some men think strippers are cum bags. For example, while she is giving you a dance, you will allow your stank, disgusting ass little dicklet to ejaculate. This is viewed as intolerable and extremely disgusting. Do you think you can hide that warm wet spot on your pants? Maybe she won't notice. Maybe she likes it. Maybe you are a sick disgusting fuck who wasn't raised with manners or personal hygene.

sorry, while i agree with the majority of the column this is totally inaccurate for myself and many other girls

cum bags- no........ scum bags-maybe.>>> i don't allow or promote any ejaculations during my lap dances.
if i see a wet spot... dance over!!!! i don't want that shit on my leg.

sorry if i seem snobby but, i had to say it