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mr_punk
11-14-2004, 06:41 PM
http://www.ihatestrippers.com/ihs/index.cfm

i stumbled upon this site from zbone. although, there is nothing new or revelatory (at least to me) concerning the subject. however, i did find the 'stripper phone' section interesting. while, i have no idea about the veracity of the phone calls. as far as i am concerned, the question is academic because it's pretty funny all on it's own.

in any case, it really isn't that unusual of a story in a sc. i remember a stripper was showing-off some expensive piece of bling-bling some moronic PL gave her around the holidays. while she acted as if she was truly grateful for the gift. i wasn't fooled a bit by her false modesty. mind you, this is the same stripper who once had this same PL cooling his jets (and not because she was busy) like a schmuck for practically her entire shift because she was pissed off at him for reasons that i've, thankfully, long since forgotten.

oh, be sure to take the poll at the bottom of the page. i had to refrain from responding since it didn't contain the following choice:

Don should do the following:
step 1) buy a double-barreled shotgun and saw about 6 inches off the barrel.
step 2) load both barrels and give the shotgun to the stripper.
step 3) have the stripper place the shotgun in Don's mouth. (while making sure to get both barrels in his mouth)
step 4) cock both hammers and pull the trigger.

now, that's what i call taking the appropriate action. ;)

Katrine
11-14-2004, 07:47 PM
This deserves a link in the pink site.

This guy is an idiot and deserved what he got. People get scammed by opportunistic con artisits all the time. They are often truly snowed. Not this guy........

Notice that the second highest vote on the poll is that he had it coming....

Katrine
11-14-2004, 07:49 PM
For the record, I think what the girl did is a shitty thing as well.

Katrine
11-14-2004, 07:50 PM
The Tao of Stripping is pretty good though, at least regarding not sleeping with your customers to maximize profit. Every time I've ever slept with a customer and he returned for more, he wanted the sex at a discounted price, bleh!

Darcy Hawthorne
11-15-2004, 02:35 AM
OMFG. :rotfl: That shit is priceless.

Moneywise
11-15-2004, 08:24 AM
LOL @ Don!
Friday i'm all yours baby.

LOL OK! Nice find. :)

MW

Moneywise
11-15-2004, 08:33 AM
Great 2 a.m. call from that stripper btw. Wow!

Ms. L reminds me of someone that might have possibly helped create that website..lol

MW

sander8son
11-15-2004, 09:47 AM
thats a great site. kat you fucking retard, read number 9 of the tao. you're not supposed to tell custys/possible custys that you have or would fuck your customers.

i clicked on move on.....because i figure guy can't afford an attorny or a hitman... personally, i think he should terrorize her in online forums. just ruin business for her, but stay away from her person. he's a moron and asked to be taken....but his fucking parrents got rooked too which they didn't ask for. they were just helping their son. so thats not cool.

but hey, lesson learned. never trust a women unless shes bound and gagged in your trunk.

doc-catfish
11-15-2004, 12:24 PM
God, that guy sounds like someone that I work with. /:O

You know what's really sad? The fact that there most likely isn't a SC on this planet where there isn't at least one episode of this ca-ca going on.

From now on, I suggest we refer to PL's as "Dons". :idea:

yoda57us
11-15-2004, 12:38 PM
My personal opinion is that the whole scenario was created by some idiot with nothing better to do. Probably paid for too many lap dances thinking it would lead to a relationship and decided to lash out. The phone calls are way too textbook to be convincing.

OK, just call me Mr. Cynical. I know customers and dancers like these two losers exist but I just can't ever imagine being that stupid.

KC Joe
11-15-2004, 01:37 PM
My personal opinion is that the whole scenario was created by some idiot with nothing better to do. Probably paid for too many lap dances thinking it would lead to a relationship and decided to lash out. The phone calls are way too textbook to be convincing.

OK, just call me Mr. Cynical. I know customers and dancers like these two losers exist but I just can't ever imagine being that stupid.
It's amazing just how many stupid people there are and how stupid they can be.



What kind of moron would accept a $200 bill with dub-ya on the picture. The problem is that stupid people keep having stupid kids.

Katrine
11-15-2004, 07:34 PM
Yup, you make something idiot proof, and then whadaya know, along comes a new and improved idiot.

I love that cliche!

mr_punk
11-16-2004, 05:45 AM
My personal opinion is that the whole scenario was created by some idiot with nothing better to do. Probably paid for too many lap dances thinking it would lead to a relationship and decided to lash out. The phone calls are way too textbook to be convincing.or maybe not. it may very well turn out to be legit. stranger things have happened in a sc. how many times have you been on the recieving end of a 'dialing for dollars' telethon or 'SOB story' phone call from a stripper?


OK, just call me Mr. Cynical. I know customers and dancers like these two losers exist but I just can't ever imagine being that stupid.you mean like paying for a dancer's bolt-ons, rent, car payments, vacations, etc. all in return for mere conversation or fantasy? fortunately, a lot of suckers...uh...gentlemen ::) are willing to do that for strippers, yoda? why can't you get with the program? ;)


The Tao of Stripping is pretty good though, at least regarding not sleeping with your customers to maximize profit.sure, but those types of transparent tactics (ie: SOB stories and their ilk) only works on customers who don't know any better. granted, that type of customer is represented by most of the sc customer base.


Every time I've ever slept with a customer and he returned for more, he wanted the sex at a discounted price, bleh!!perhaps, what he thought about the quality of the sex the first time around is reflected in the discounted price. fear not, kat. you could always brush up your skills the next time you go to houston. ;)

Moneywise
11-16-2004, 06:28 AM
sure, but those types of transparent tactics (ie: SOB stories and their ilk) only works on customers who don't know any better. granted, that type of customer is represented by most of the sc customer base.
I once was blind but now I see. Thankfully I am no longer part of that majority. Thanks Ms. L. Preesh. :D

MW

KC Joe
11-16-2004, 06:08 PM
I recognized a club Don was talking about. Wonder if I've seen him or the dancer before. :O Usually alot of fat guys at the clubs.

MissTaylor
11-18-2004, 03:57 PM
What saddens me about this is I'm witnessing it going on with one of my FAVORITE customers...rather former customer. This bitch has him wrapped around her little finger and it's gotten to where he's not ALLOWED to talk to me anymore :( I genuinely like this guy and pray he wisen's up to her behavior. She's one sick bitch. Last time I saw him in the club he kissed my hand and she went nuts. I don't care that he's not my "customer" anymore...I care because I've lost a friend. Poor guy.

doc-catfish
11-18-2004, 04:59 PM
I recognized a club Don was talking about. Wonder if I've seen him or the dancer before. :O Usually alot of fat guys at the clubs.
I recognized three clubs, all of them in Kansas, and I almost swear that "Don" sounds like an ex-supervisor of mine. This was a guy who actually went over to Russia to get one of those mail order brides.

Yes, and he was fat too.

SportsWriter2
11-19-2004, 08:56 PM
What saddens me about this is I'm witnessing it going on with one of my FAVORITE customers...rather former customer. This bitch has him wrapped around her little finger and it's gotten to where he's not ALLOWED to talk to me anymore :( I genuinely like this guy and pray he wisen's up to her behavior. She's one sick bitch. Last time I saw him in the club he kissed my hand and she went nuts. I don't care that he's not my "customer" anymore...I care because I've lost a friend. Poor guy.
Some dancers like Miss Taylor go out of their way to develop caring friendships with customers (within the constraints of the fantasy game), only to see more manipulative dancers capture these men with false promises.

Likewise, some customers go out of their way to develop caring friendships with dancers, only to see more manipulative customers capture these dancers with money and drugs.

Within this subculture, all the players seem to get worse over time, not better. :(

yoda57us
11-20-2004, 10:49 AM
you mean like paying for a dancer's bolt-ons, rent, car payments, vacations, etc. all in return for mere conversation or fantasy? fortunately, a lot of suckers...uh...gentlemen ::) are willing to do that for strippers, yoda? why can't you get with the program? ;)

OK, I admit it. I bought a dancer a computer for her birthday once. She had already paid off her car, wasn't interested in a boob job and she can vacation at home in Brazil for free so the only thing left to throw away the money on was a Pentium II (ok, it was a while ago). Can you beleive the witch actualy used it for schoolwork???? I'll never fall for that again! /:O

Casual Observer
11-21-2004, 10:45 PM
Within this subculture, all the players seem to get worse over time, not better.

Sad, but true.

mr_punk
11-22-2004, 03:38 PM
Some dancers like Miss Taylor go out of their way to develop caring friendships with customers (within the constraints of the fantasy game), only to see more manipulative dancers capture these men with false promises.this is what i meant about hand-wringing over the act of objectification. miss taylor is no different than most strippers in that she objectifies her customers. she just may be nicer going about it. however, i think blaming the other stripper in this case is pretty weak. remember, he's paying her to sit on his balls. if he can't figure out that he's not paying her to tell him whom he can or can't associate. i hardly think it's the stripper's fault. besides, if he wants to behave like he's pussy-whipped (mind you, the odds are that he's not even getting a whiff of the pussy) that just makes him an all too common sight in a sc...a gullible PL. i hardly think the other stripper in question is Rasputin.


Likewise, some customers go out of their way to develop caring friendships with dancers, only to see more manipulative customers capture these dancers with money and drugs.it's the same thing. in the case of the former, we all like money. sure, strippers absolutely adore it, but they can always say "no" or turn down the cash. in the case of the latter, i might be dating myself, but have you ever heard of the phrase, "cash, ass or grass"? if some stripper associates with a customer or dealer because he/she has some really good blow and she wants some of it. she should either pay for it, give up the ass or start a meth lab in her basement. otherwise, no one is holding a gun to her head and making her powder her nose.


Within this subculture, all the players seem to get worse over time, not better.it's neither, sporty. it is what it is. you might not like or agree with the choices people make, but objectification turns bad when you don't have the other party's permission.

yoda57us
11-22-2004, 03:57 PM
Mr.P: Wow.....I agreed with all of that:-\ /:O :O :-\ /:O :O

SportsWriter2
11-22-2004, 08:14 PM
miss taylor is no different than most strippers in that she objectifies her customers. she just may be nicer going about it. however, i think blaming the other stripper in this case is pretty weak. remember, he's paying her to sit on his balls. if he can't figure out that he's not paying her to tell him whom he can or can't associate. i hardly think it's the stripper's fault. Mr P, I just think your reductionism misses most of the fun. JZ had a nice TR today in which most of the meaning was "off balls" (to coin a term for your reductionist lexicon).

Because dancers and customers can talk anonymously, you find types of relationships that rarely develop in the real world. Even the most intense ATF I ever met connected "off balls" most of the time.

mr_punk
11-23-2004, 08:27 AM
Mr P, I just think your reductionism misses most of the fun. JZ had a nice TR today in which most of the meaning was "off balls" (to coin a term for your reductionist lexicon).what difference does it make? fine..let's remove balls from the equation and my question is still the same, sporty. all i'm asking is how can you characterize a stripper as being some sort of nefarious svengali. in particular, i don't get all this concern over guys (or strippers for that matter) who have been around sc long enough and should know better. at that point, he goes from "unknowing sucker" to "very willing sucker". at that point, he has to realize that all strippers have "caveat emptor" stamped on their foreheads. at that point, can you really paint the stripper as the bad guy, when the stripper in question must be doing something right because whatever she's selling, the customer sure seems to be buying.

i find that attitude just as condescending when it come from strippers as well. "oh, that poor young and fresh-looking stripper. she doesn't know what she is doing. that evil customer preyed upon her by somehow forcing her to agree to take his money and give him a blowjob". or "that poor young hot-looking stripper. that evil customer must have somehow forced her to use her own hand and coke spoon to take a toot while he snorted coke off her tits." gimme a break.



Because dancers and customers can talk anonymously, you find types of relationships that rarely develop in the real world. Even the most intense ATF I ever met connected "off balls" most of the time.well, you got me there, sporty. boy, it sure is hard to find relationships like that in the real world. it seems like you can only find controlling women, whom you pay not to have sex and treat you like you're her bitch in a sc. on second thought, i can think of two. ..............it's called marriage and divorce. http://web.gay.hr/smilies/tomato.gif ;)

SportsWriter2
11-23-2004, 10:24 AM
Well said, Jay. ::)

My ATF always left money on the table with me. When she left dancing, she remained one of my best friends. And I don't know anyone who's lower maintenance or more fun to be with. ::)

yoda57us
11-24-2004, 10:32 AM
Sometimes it's easy to think guys who spend a lot money on dancers are being taken for a ride. I've had "extras" girls, "no contact" girls and "you can keep your dress on" girls over the years. In all cases I enjoyed their company and it was money well spent. Though some may think that not getting the most "bang for your buck" (yeah,bad pun) from a dancer is allowing yourself to be ripped off I've never seen it that way. There is something to be said for the honesty that comes with relative anonymity in a customer/dancer relationship.

I abhore stereotypes, especialy as related to dancers and this industry but strip clubs are not bible school. It's a business and women are in it to maximize revenue. My now retired ATF NEVER left any money on the table with me or any of her customers. We had a great time and we were and still are great friends but, in the SC environment, money was her only reason for being there and the primary reason that she would spend a couple of hours with me on my visits. She managed to hold my attention with a minimum of BS. Other girls use varying tactics to seperate us from our cash. Whatever works is fair game once you walk through the doors of your favorite SC. If your not prepared for that you should just stay home.

doc-catfish
11-24-2004, 04:14 PM
Strip clubs can be a very "caveat emptor" enterprise indeed, esspecially when in most cases you're paying $20 minimum just to sample the goodies. That's why I tend to grimace a bit when I hear some of the ladies on the pink side complaining about how cheap some customers are, or how we should be tipping extra.

OTOH, I think it would greatly diminsih the fun of the club experience if I felt that I needed a Consumer Reports like grade on every dancer's looks/mileage/personality attributes just to consider purchasing a dance. Sometimes the mystery of not knowing what you're going to get is what makes it fun, albeit expensive fun.

Needless to say, a particular service that Customer A may consider worthless (or at least not worth the seller's asking price), might just be what Customer B is looking for. I would never pay a dancer to sit in some cushy back room, just to riff-raff and drink overpriced bubbly for $500/hr, but if that's what floats another guy's boat, so be it. Some out there prefer their "mileage" to be of an alternative nature. If those customers feel that they're getting their money's worth, then who am I to judge?

Katrine
11-24-2004, 06:08 PM
Ugh, ya'll are giving me such a headache with this thread. I might respond but I'm pretty exhausted from taking a country PL for the ride of his life for more than double the average Austin POP....

peace out ;)

Katrine
11-24-2004, 06:10 PM
Btw Punkster,
Miss Taylor is good peoples, she isn't evil like I am. If you have seen her in a french maid costume like I have...you might easily forget some of your "raincoater" principles and fork over a good chunk of what remains of your retirment fund ;)

SportsWriter2
11-24-2004, 06:39 PM
Ugh, ya'll are giving me such a headache with this thread. I might respond but I'm pretty exhausted from taking a country PL for the ride of his life for more than double the average Austin POP....

peace out ;) Funny how life balances out. I had an "I just like you" dancer for half the Providence POP. ;)

mr_punk
11-24-2004, 11:51 PM
I've had "extras" girls, "no contact" girls and "you can keep your dress on" girls over the years. In all cases I enjoyed their company and it was money well spent..sure. i'll buy a dance or two from a stripper with limited mileage. if she's cool, if i'm in the mood and she keeps the DP to a minimum. of course, i'll never buy dances from them in bulk like i do for the dancers who have proven their worth. however, i'm not going to burn any bridges over a dancer's limited mileage. they're not totally useless. they can be a good source of infomation. more importantly, sometimes if you just sit back and let the industry work it's magic and marinate the stripper for a bit. it's not unusual for today's uptight lapper to be baked into tomorrow's porn star lapper in about 2-3 months....bon appetit. ;D


Whatever works is fair game once you walk through the doors of your favorite SC. If your not prepared for that you should just stay home.i couldn't agree more. that's why i don't get all this concern. strippers should get down on their knees and thank somebody that willing suckers are coming through the turnstile and spewing cash on a nightly basis, even if those same suckers are accidentally splooging in their pants. hell, i get down on my knees and thank somebody. thanks to willing strippers, i have to buy lube for my finger by the pallet at Costco. thanks to willing suckers, i have a limitless supply of comedic fodder at my disposal. shit, the entertaintment value alone of watching these guys crash and burn is priceless. ;)

SportsWriter2
11-26-2004, 07:53 PM
sure. i'll buy a dance or two from a stripper with limited mileage. if she's cool, if i'm in the mood and she keeps the DP to a minimum. of course, i'll never buy dances from them in bulk like i do for the dancers who have proven their worth. however, i'm not going to burn any bridges over a dancer's limited mileage. they're not totally useless. they can be a good source of infomation. more importantly, sometimes if you just sit back and let the industry work it's magic and marinate the stripper for a bit. it's not unusual for today's uptight lapper to be baked into tomorrow's porn star lapper in about 2-3 months....bon appetit. ;D
It's the other way around with me. The high mileage dancers burn themselves up and get off in two songs. Then they just wanna have a GF experience on the sofa off the clock. :-\ Fortunately, I know a beautiful young dancer who has incredible hang time and bright blue eyes. :)

sander8son
11-26-2004, 08:41 PM
lol, sporty, how have you not choked to death on this taradiddle yet? thats right, i mastered the thesaurus.

oh no, high milage girls rub me raw then just wanna make out and cuddle for free. its soooooooo tough.

<gag>

SportsWriter2
11-26-2004, 09:24 PM
Sandy, NOTHING beats hang time for me. And then I don't have to listen to some chafed curly blonde cutie tell me you didn't want to be friends if she wouldn't.... Never mind, that was back when you were a guy. ;)

sander8son
11-26-2004, 09:28 PM
heh, good reply. did she tell ya the whole story? or just the end?

SportsWriter2
11-26-2004, 09:46 PM
Just the end, her version. I always promise to listen to the whole story next time, cuz I know something worse will happen to her before next time. ::)

sander8son
11-26-2004, 09:56 PM
Just the end, her version. I always promise to listen to the whole story next time, cuz I know something worse will happen to her before next time. ::) how could it possibly get worse if theres no way i could be involved in any future stories? i hope you realize the universe revolves around me.


her version. hmmmmm, that could be interesting.

i believe we're breaking rule 2a. ok, i dont know what number, but its both off topic and is a one on one conversation. but ive never been much for SCJ/SW's rules. and now that im a broad, i dont need to follow rules. those are only for men.