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waikikamukau
12-04-2004, 09:39 PM
Couldn't think of anything worse than finishing in a club with only a naked dancer in front of you.

Best left for the bedroom, or alone if you are that desperate to release tension.

FONDL
12-05-2004, 11:21 AM
Just out of curiousity, how many of you people work in or go to small high-contact clubs where there's little or no supervision of the LD rooms? I get the impression that most of you only have experience with low contact gentlemen's clubs. Such places are the exception, not the rule, most clubs are small neighborhood dives. I don't think the opinions expressed on this thread are very typical of either customers or dancers at the majority of clubs, I think most of you are expressing minority views for this industry.

crystalstarfire
12-05-2004, 01:41 PM
i work at a high contact club where lap dances aren't supervised-thank goodness. The booths are very dark and private so that the customers can be comfortable and relaxed. I work quite well there.

yoda57us
12-05-2004, 02:58 PM
I have to agree with FONDL here. I've been reading this thread for days and thinking to myself that, with all do respect, most of you folks - dancer and customer alike-wouldn't last a single shift in the clubs I frequent.

DeepGreen
12-05-2004, 04:56 PM
Just out of curiousity, how many of you people work in or go to small high-contact clubs where there's little or no supervision of the LD rooms? I get the impression that most of you only have experience with low contact gentlemen's clubs. Such places are the exception, not the rule, most clubs are small neighborhood dives. I don't think the opinions expressed on this thread are very typical of either customers or dancers at the majority of clubs, I think most of you are expressing minority views for this industry.
The clubs I frequent would be characterized as "high-contact" (two-way) clubs, with private lap dance booths given little or no supervision. I can't say whether or not my views with regard to the topic of this thread are typical of the customers there. However (IMHO, happily for me), I have never had a dancer offer to help me "finish"--even in high contact clubs. I'm sure that there of lots of typical customers out there who feel differenty, or have different experiences. This notwithstanding, I still view finishing during a LD as something to be avoided. My opinion.

afxturnip
12-05-2004, 05:18 PM
J I don't think the opinions expressed on this thread are very typical of either customers or dancers at the majority of clubs, I think most of you are expressing minority views for this industry.


You're just figuring this out NOW?

}:D ::) }:D

-afx

Bijou
12-05-2004, 07:54 PM
There has been a hand full (er, not that) of times when I gave a LDto a guy and he came in his pants. Only once was I descusted but the rest of the times it was pretty amusing being that they were not touching themselves or the fact that their pants and belt was very much on.

Djoser
12-06-2004, 01:39 AM
Just out of curiousity, how many of you people work in or go to small high-contact clubs where there's little or no supervision of the LD rooms? I get the impression that most of you only have experience with low contact gentlemen's clubs. Such places are the exception, not the rule, most clubs are small neighborhood dives. I don't think the opinions expressed on this thread are very typical of either customers or dancers at the majority of clubs, I think most of you are expressing minority views for this industry.

I have worked in two smaller and three medium-sized clubs where there was little or no supervision of the LD rooms, and have been close friends with many dancers who have worked primarily in these kinds of clubs. My girlfriend did work in a large and ostensibly classy club where Russian and American prostitutes did a booming business, and made the process of giving lap dances by the clean dancers a real ordeal.

If you want to believe that most dancers just love it when a customers pops a load of jizz all over them, be my guest.

I do agree that the dancers who post here on SW are exceptional, but I doubt very much whether the majority of dancers in the USA have as their primary goal that their customers all bust a nut.

Bridgette
12-06-2004, 06:31 AM
I have travelled alot, much of which was done by the seat of my pants and therefore I've worked pretty much every type of club, from skanky dives to worldclass. I can tell you that while most clubs may be skanky dives where contact is largely unsupervised, MOST girls do NOT like it when customers cum. Some may make that a goal in return for a larger tip, but I can assure you no girl wants to be jizzed on all shift long. Furthermore, MOST of the girls who work the skanky dives and participate in heavy contact are doing so OUT OF NECESSITY to survive in that environment, NOT desire. And even IF some freak of a girl does like to be jizzed on, if she's any kind of businesswoman she learns quickly that once a guy cums he stops buying dances, and since MOST girls want to sell as many dances as possible, it follows that she would at MINIMUM want to prolong it as long as possible ::)

I swear, the stupidity of some guys never ceases to amaze me ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

SportsWriter2
12-06-2004, 07:29 AM
I have to agree with FONDL here. I've been reading this thread for days and thinking to myself that, with all do respect, most of you folks - dancer and customer alike-wouldn't last a single shift in the clubs I frequent.
Wow Yoda, I'm in awe!!! I've never even tried to last a whole shift in the clubs you frequent. I feel used and dirty after four hours. I don't even want anyone to touch me after that. :O

money
12-06-2004, 10:11 AM
To Bridgette and Susan, you have to remember, clubs in different parts of the country vary by the way they do things. I fully understand your thinking of having guys buy more dances. But come to NJ, where MOST clubs, have the dancers do half hour on stage, then a half hour off, to do your dances. Ok, then they usually want to change during their half hour off, so you are limited to how many dances you can get done. Most of these places are not those big clubs, where you have a couple hours to wander around to get dances. Obviously, if you have a couple hours to kill, you want to keep your customer as long as possible, or you can end up wasting alot of time. But here, most dancers have customers waiting, because the time is limited. If a guy blows his load after say 3 songs, she doesn't care about not getting more money, because the odds are, someone else is right behind! Then she has to go back on stage shortly anyhow. So remember ladies, every state, city and club is different.

Bridgette
12-06-2004, 10:23 AM
Money, perhaps you missed the part where I said I've travelled alot and worked in pretty much every type of club. I've even worked those small skanky dives where girls are on stage for a half hour at a time and where mileage is high. Even at those clubs, most of the girls don't want to be jizzed on all night long! ::)

FONDL
12-06-2004, 10:43 AM
I'm surprised that some of you interpreted my comments to mean that I'm in favor of finishing during a dance. That wasn't my objective at all, I was merely trying to point out that I think there are a lot of both customers and dancers out there who think that's the whole point of a lap dance (even though they may not like it.) Just an observation. Anyway, I think this kind of discussion is a subset of a much larger discussion that maybe if I get a chance I'll start. I think I'll call it "sluts and slobs," which ought to draw some attention. And please, if you post on it, keep your sense of humor. That often seems to be lacking in some of these discussions.

money
12-06-2004, 11:38 AM
Bridgette, I would not call these bars in NJ skanky dives, it is just the way things are done in this state. Secondly you are correct, they don't want jizz on them. They will always say, "just don't get it on me". Thirdly, I just want to make a point, this isn't me! LOL I hardly do dances anymore and when I do, I never go long enough for it to happen! But I will tell you, I would not call the bars I go into skanky dives as I do not go into those places! Bridgette, come dance @ Titillations, see how much money you can make NJ style! Working a half on and a half off.

Katrine
12-06-2004, 02:00 PM
Fuck the half on, half off! We just worked a place like that in NOLA, and its sooo much more profitable to be able to cruise the room hustling dances. I don't need to walk on top of some bar, knocking over drinks and ashtrays, beggin for a dolla :(

Adina
12-06-2004, 02:13 PM
Just out of curiousity, how many of you people work in or go to small high-contact clubs where there's little or no supervision of the LD rooms? I get the impression that most of you only have experience with low contact gentlemen's clubs. Such places are the exception, not the rule, most clubs are small neighborhood dives. I don't think the opinions expressed on this thread are very typical of either customers or dancers at the majority of clubs, I think most of you are expressing minority views for this industry.

I get the impression that the customers here are the minority. Most customers in a strip clubs aren't glued to the web 24/7 searching for ways to improve their "mileage" and hiding behind internet tough-guy personas...just travelling businessmen, bachelor party revelers, guys who just got a divorce or broke up with their SOs, and the like who are seeking a pleasant diversion. I dunno, if I were a guy, I'm not sure I'd be proudly boasting that I can bust a nut from a friction dance. I think I'd be a little embarrassed and want to keep it to myself. :-\

yoda57us
12-06-2004, 06:41 PM
I've heard lots of dancers talk about getting guys off and not one of them liked it or looked forward to it. Then again, none of them liked stripping either. They were all in it for the money. The dumb ones try to get it over with in a hurry. The smart ones try to make the guy last 3 or 4 songs.

hallrvdrul
12-07-2004, 10:11 PM
Those smart ones do not get the repeat customers with this technique.

merely_lurking
12-07-2004, 11:46 PM
I still don't see what the big deal is about dancers getting cum on themselves, especially if you are making a lot of money to get the guy off. Just get a napkin and wipe it up, problem solved. It's not like you have to lick it up or anything, unless you negotiate for more money to do so.

Madcap
12-07-2004, 11:51 PM
HIV, dude.

I'd be worried too. And i don't care what you got to say. I'd be worried about fluids from any stranger.

Bridgette
12-08-2004, 04:15 AM
Fondl, while I agree that there are more high mileage than low mileage clubs and dancers, I would seriously question your assertion that more customers and dancers actually think cumming is the POINT of getting a lapdance. In my extremely varied experience, I have always seen that MOST customers are actually just there for a good time, not to cum in their pants, and the dancers who encourage that are usually doing so for extra tips, not just because they think that's already the objective.

Money, as Kat said, we just worked one of those half on half off clubs and it sucks. For the kind of work THAT requires I can make 2-300 more in the same hours at my home club just cruising the floor hustling dances. There are only so many laps you can do in a half hour, and at $20/song it doesn't add up to enough even if I danced every single song nonstop between stages. I'm thinking you guys severely overestimate what the girls make in those clubs; either that or you UNDERestimate what a hustler makes in other clubs. ;)

SportsWriter2
12-08-2004, 06:52 AM
I still don't see what the big deal is about dancers getting cum on themselves, especially if you are making a lot of money to get the guy off. Just get a napkin and wipe it up, problem solved. It's not like you have to lick it up or anything, unless you negotiate for more money to do so. Shaving sensitive areas can create lots on tiny abrasions that put dancers more at risk for HIV. I wouldn't want anyone to think I added to their risk profile. :-[

If I'm with a dancer for the first time, I always tell her that no one in the club has ever gotten me off. She'll either feel more comfortable getting into it OR (rarely) she'll say something like, "I wanna be the first to get you."

Dancers I really like sometimes get upset because they can't get me off, but I have a tantric explanation that makes them happy. Except for one young Brazilian who doesn't know enough English to understand what I'm saying. :)

Staying dry has its rewards. A gorgeous young favorite once confided that she thought cum was poison bleach, and I was the only guy she trusted, so she wanted to meet me OTC for DT practice. For free. :O

money
12-08-2004, 07:44 AM
Bridgette, you would be proud of me, as one thing I have never done, is ask a dancer how much money she makes! I have no idea how much any of these dancers make. All I know is some make more than others! LOL But you still have to understand, every club is different. The club I go to, where I have gotten to know this one ex-dancer very well since she retired, she would tell me that this one customer would just give her $300.00 for the sake of just giving it to her. You remember Chuck that posted on here, I think you met him, but he had this one favorite @ the club when he came down here, and you don't even wanna know how much he spent!!! Cuz he told me and she confirmed it! LOL So you have to remember, half hour on, half hour off, work the room for 2 hours, whatever, if you have big spenders, no matter how the club is run, you will make $$$!

yoda57us
12-08-2004, 11:24 AM
Those smart ones do not get the repeat customers with this technique.
Excellent point. I know a dancer who tells guys she can get them off in two songs-and backs it up. On a Saturday afternoon you almost need an appointment to get a dance from her.

On the other hand, Weekday girls can get $200 or $300 out of a RIL if they know how to slow down when it's time, feed the guy a nipple for a few minutes, talk about the weather while he goes limp, and then start all over again....I know a girl who can make $1500 on a Monday afternoon doing this. There is a science to the whole thing...

Sporty: Brazilians generally understand much more than they appear to. ;)

FONDL
12-08-2004, 01:04 PM
My ATF and her friends used to joke about the used condoms lying on the floor in her club when the lights were turned on at the end of the night . That doesn't sound to me like a group of girls who weren't expecting guys to finish. This was just your typical small town local lap dance factory. Incidently laps were $10 each (they're $15 now) and these girls made lots of money. Most of them were so busy that they rarely got a chance to sit down. You people can believe what you want but lot of customers went there to get off and the girls all knew and expected it. And I can name a lot of other clubs that are just the same. They're your typical sluts-slobs-joints kind of places. And they drew a fair number of nice guys and some nice girls too. Like me and my ATF.

Brittany
12-08-2004, 05:32 PM
I guess that you are right about some clubs fondl. These are the places that I would never work in, even for a night, to save my life. Whatever money I could make just wouldn't be worth it to me. If it came down to that, I'd rather make my 1500 (or more) off one guy being an escort than be some sort of cum factory for every guy in the club. Just what would be good for me I guess, the girls you probably encounter are happy being there and doing that or would go elsewhere, different strokes for different folks.
I'm not very familiar with sluts-slobs-joints type of places. I've always chosen to avoid them because I KNEW that there was easier (and often more) money to be made elsewhere.
The whole big fish in a small pond isn't really for me. I'd rather be one of the big fish in the big pond (or even the medium fish in the big pond if that was the case).
I like dancing for nice guys that are just there for some entertainment and to see pretty women. The whole sluts getting off slobs in small town joints thing really doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, so I guess we are talking about two totally different things here.

Bridgette
12-08-2004, 08:23 PM
If you're talking about small town clubs, yeah, most of those in my experience tend to be joints full of slobs and sluts. But those NEVER employ as many dancers as the city GCs, or draw as many customers, from my experience. There are lots of guys in those areas who will make the drive out of the small town to avoid the joint because they prefer the nicer GC atmosphere and girls. And all the best looking girls in those joints quickly move out to the city GCs when they realize they can make more money with less bullshit there, leaving only the girls who can't make it in the GCs (and a limited few who for whatever reason don't wanna leave their small town comfort zone).

I think there are MORE customers on the whole now, who've mostly been brought into the scene by the GCs, who NEVER would have gone to the joints before. Even when I worked a skanky dive here and there I saw more guys who were just looking for a good time than who seriously expected to get off in the corner. YES the % of slobs going to joints is higher than slobs going to GCs, duh - but I still say that on the whole, the nice guys still outnumber the slobs.

Fondl, I've got a pretty good idea some of the clubs you're talking about, small clubs in MD where mileage is high and cleanliness is low. I think the fact that GCs are still relatively new in MD has your perception a bit skewed. This area is a bit of an anomoly in the whole SC scene, but nonetheless, the new GCs ARE attracting more customers away from the joints, and more guys who never went to the joints before. Hell, what I gather from locals is that city of Baltimore has only recently made opening GCs attractive here, in efforts to attract more convention business. I myself see loads of guys every single weekend who drive in from PA, DC, VA, NC - JUST to come to the GC I work in, and they all could have stopped in a cheaper more high mileage joint, but they didn't. So that in itself says alot of guys just aren't interested in the joints at all and will go out of their way to avoid them.

Nothing I've seen in this industry tells me slobs outnumber nice guys on the whole. If they did, all us nice girls would be out of business!

FONDL
12-09-2004, 08:28 AM
Good post, Bridgette, I agree with most of what you say. But I've been to clubs all over the country and I don't think MD is all that different. In my opinion fewer than 20% of all dancers work in GC's, there just aren't that many of them. Name almost any city and I'll bet there are 10 times as many joints with strippers as there are GC's. You might want to read a new thread called "sluts and slobs II" that I recently started for more on this topic. (For your info, I often hang out in Gentlemen's Gold Club in Baltimore. Years ago I was a regular at Choo Choo's when my ATF worked there. I also used to go to McDoogal's fairly often and have been to many of the other clubs in MD, but I don't do the Block.)

Bridgette
12-09-2004, 08:40 AM
Well, there may be more JOINTS than GCs, but that doesn't say anything about the number of dancers working there, or the guys going there. In my experience, the GCs tend to have WAY more girls working and also more customers than the joints.

Went to the GGC in Baltimore on a Tuesday night with the bf, they had about 12 girls working and probably twice as many customers in the door. Went to a joint after, that same night, they had 3 girls working and aside from me and the bf, 3 guys in the bar. Just from my experience, THAT kind of discrepancy is normal between a GC and a joint. I might add that I am not talking about the middle of the road clubs, those that don't exactly qualify as GCs or joints. Most clubs fall into the middle somewhere...

And just for YOUR info ;) if you could manage to get over that irrational fear of the Block you might find the entertainment at my club quite nice ;)

Djoser
12-09-2004, 08:44 AM
My ATF and her friends used to joke about the used condoms lying on the floor in her club when the lights were turned on at the end of the night . That doesn't sound to me like a group of girls who weren't expecting guys to finish. This was just your typical small town local lap dance factory...

...They're your typical sluts-slobs-joints kind of places. And they drew a fair number of nice guys and some nice girls too. Like me and my ATF.

I have never seen used condoms on the floor in any club I have worked in (5 of them). Nor has my girlfriend, and she's worked in well over a dozen--including, regrettably, several that had a lot of extras going on.

Not that it doesn't happen, I'm sure. Just not in "your typical small town local lap dance factory", not in any part of the country I'm familiar with, and I've been around.

In every town of any reasonable size there will be what is referred to as a "jack-shack", however. These are the places that the average dancer will avoid at all costs, but crack-heads, desperate women, and a few unclassifiable types, some of them even perfectly nice people, will work. In Daytona it's called the Pink Pony, part of a national chain that has reached its nadir, in the crab-infested crotch of the nation.

That's not to say that all kinds of extras aren't available in all kinds of clubs, including some that are supposed to be 'classy'.

To find a club in which the majority of women will jack off or grind a guy to orgasm every 2-3 songs may not be too hard to do, in most parts of the country.

Doing the math, thats getting a guy to blow a load of jizz every 10 minutes, so on an average night--assuming a few breaks here and there, maybe it's slow early on--at least 25-30 guys blowing a load, per girl . Thats a lot of jizz...

Lots of the customers in these clubs are perfectly nice guys, if not too terribly picky about how or where they bust a nut.

To say that these clubs constitute a majority or even a major percentage of stripclubs is to be as delusional as any dancer who says such clubs don't exist.

money
12-09-2004, 09:36 AM
Bridgette hon, not to speak for Fondl, and not to be off topic, but as I have been to the block a few times, and I have to say, it is BRUTAL! LOL I know you work in a more upscale club, but the things I have seen dancing in some of the places on the block should be banned! LOL Plus I thought I was gonna get mugged walking the street.

Bridgette
12-09-2004, 09:50 AM
LOL money! Don't go to Bourbon St then ;)

FONDL
12-09-2004, 10:28 AM
Djoser, you've worked in 5 clubs, I've been to well over a hundred from all around the country, so I think I have a fair idea what's out there and what goes on. I'm not referring to jack shacks, nor am I saying that condoms on the floor are at all common, I was just trying to show a different point of view than the one everyone else seems to be expressing. This is a very large industry and gentlemen's clubs are only one small part of it. I don't think a lot of the ladies on this site realize that.

Brittany
12-09-2004, 11:29 AM
We all know that there are smaller clubs out there Fondl, because every town that has some GC almost always has it's share of "joints". I just am smart enough to know that I could make more money in someplace that's NOT a joint, at least in this area, because as a hustler, I need LOTS of guys to be in the club to make good money. The more guys there are = more chances to hustle dances.
In Austin, the joints are The crazy lady, XTC, The landing strip, Foxxies, Peepshow Pussycats, and something called the Texas Lady. I would also classify Joy of Austin as a "kinda" joint.
The GC (and I use the term loosely, as Austin has gone way downhill) are: The yellow rose, Sugars, Perfect ten, expose, Palazio.
Now there are some towns that have nothing but joints. Take Killeen. But then it's an army town so that's kinda to be expected.

Katrine
12-09-2004, 01:28 PM
Foxxies, Peepshow Pussycats, Texas Lady????

Where are these places...I've never heard of them? Are they jack shacks?

Brittany
12-09-2004, 01:52 PM
I suppose they are jack shacks. I think each one pretends to have some sort of strip show going on, but in reality they're probably just what fondl would be looking for!

The first two are on i-35, the third on felton lane

aggieed
12-09-2004, 03:24 PM
Foxxies, Peepshow Pussycats, Texas Lady????

Where are these places...I've never heard of them? Are they jack shacks?
Foxxies is a "Swingers club" (on the weekends I think)/jack shack off 35 just South of 51st St. Never heard of Peepshow Pussycats. Texas Ladies is a very small GC way down in far South Austin near the airport. Never really heard anybody classify TL as a jack shack though.

Susan Wayward
12-09-2004, 03:33 PM
Nope, it's just a shack.

Bridgette
12-09-2004, 09:50 PM
Djoser, you've worked in 5 clubs, I've been to well over a hundred from all around the country, so I think I have a fair idea what's out there and what goes on. I'm not referring to jack shacks, nor am I saying that condoms on the floor are at all common, I was just trying to show a different point of view than the one everyone else seems to be expressing. This is a very large industry and gentlemen's clubs are only one small part of it. I don't think a lot of the ladies on this site realize that. Well, I will agree that MOST strippers in general aren't aware of the vast differences in strip club options. They may be somewhat aware of other clubs in their towns, but most are fairly oblivious to the fact that clubs can vary so widely. There's always the usual dressing room banter about "my club is better than that OTHER one", etc etc, but the fact is most girls have only worked one or maybe a handful of clubs, even if they've danced for years, and are quite ignorant to the huge variety in clubs. HOWEVER, I disagree that most ladies on this site are unaware. To the contrary, I think most are more aware than average about the existence of different club types and working options - thanks in large part to this site itself. A large part of what we do here is share information with each other about the different options.

What I think you're seeing on this site is more of a CHOICE on our collective part, to largely ignore the more skanky places in general conversation, because we generally choose not to work in those places, because we know there are better options. Many of us would be working in some of those skanky dives if we didn't know we have so many choices.

But just for record, I just did a quick count of clubs I've worked whose names I could remember, and the count came to 30. (I can post the list if anyone wants) I have worked more clubs than that, but I can't remember them anymore. Too much water under the bridge. And for every club I've worked, I have visited about 3 more, so I reckon my club experience certainly rivals yours. I might even say it exceeds yours due to the sheer fact I've worked in so many clubs, and therefore have a tad more insider knowledge than someone who's merely visited. AND some of the clubs I've worked or visited were outside the US, so there's just a little more variation of experience. From my experience, I would not estimate that the skanky dives employ more dancers or entertain more customers than the GCs. Not even close. I've seen too many instances where the skanky dive of a town had 3 girls working and maybe 3 guys, but the GC (or wannabe GC) across the street had several times more girls, a full parking lot and a packed house, on the same night, at the same time.

I do think that this geographical area is rather odd compared to most other areas, particularly other cities, where in other cities there will be tons of girls working the GCs and only a fraction working the joints, even if the joints outnumber the GCs, the GCs still have more girls and customers. Here that is just beginning to happen, from what I gather. I think it's pretty safe to say the majority of your clubbing experience is in this area, and considering that, I would say that you may be right, there may still be more girls working the joints than the GCs. GCs are still pretty new here after all. But from what I can tell, the CUSTOMERS are moving quickly to the GCs, which means the GC dancer numbers will follow in short order.

One point you and I seem to keep skirting though, is the fact of joint dancers migrating to the GCs when the GCs open up. Many of those girls may be sluts who learn to tone it down in the GCs or take it OTC, whatever. But they were sluts before they were "nice girls". If you look at it like that, at least in areas like this where GCs haven't really taken over yet, the sluts may still outnumber the nice girls. Given time though, I think that will change as well, as the girls see they can earn the money without all the extra, and new girls enter, etc.

Anyway, it's been an interesting discussion. Lots of good points made from all around 8)

Djoser
12-10-2004, 02:15 AM
Djoser, you've worked in 5 clubs, I've been to well over a hundred from all around the country, so I think I have a fair idea what's out there and what goes on. I'm not referring to jack shacks, nor am I saying that condoms on the floor are at all common, I was just trying to show a different point of view than the one everyone else seems to be expressing. This is a very large industry and gentlemen's clubs are only one small part of it. I don't think a lot of the ladies on this site realize that.

Hey, I've been to well over a hundred clubs too, in addition to working in 5, and having a girlfriend who has worked in at least a dozen. The vast majority of dancers that I have worked with, been friends with, or dated, are completely disgusted by guys who come during a lap dance, whatever they are doing to bring it on.

I'm not denying it happens, hell, one of the places I worked in was borderline jack shack, for that matter, and most of them had extras going on, even if it was a minority of the girls. I have worked with women who gave extras, and everyone knew it--though generally this was not a great way to win popularity with the other dancers who didn't. I have even stone cold busted a girl giving a guy a BJ in VIP (I was looking to see if I needed to skip her turn on stage--and I did, lol). I didn't bust her for it, there was no point to that--the manager would have laughed. She wasn't a bad person, though I did feel sorry for her.

But the thread topic is what girls think of guys popping a load of jizz. The majority of girls are grossed out by it, regardless of where they work, or how often they have to deal with it, or how much the guys want to believe they like it.

To say that the best policy is to get off a guy every 2-3 songs, as has been proposed here, may be true for a jack shack, but certainly not in the majority of clubs. To say that dancers who regularly follow this policy are typical is to be far more delusional than the average SW member.

The average dancer would be entirely grossed out by getting off 25 guys a night. Even once is enough to gross out most of them.

FONDL
12-10-2004, 11:58 AM
I agree with you that most dancers would be grossed out by that, I don't doubt that at all. I was only pointing out that there are a fair number of places and girls who disagree, and, like you, I've ecountered a lot of them in my travels. I once had a dancer ask me if I had a condom, and when I said no she handed me one and told me to put it on. That side of the discussion wasn't being represented on this thread so I thought I would do so.

leeah
12-14-2004, 02:45 AM
of course you should be worried! are these people who "don't mind it" joking??? lol! you could catch stds! if that stuff gets on your undies and seeps through to your actual area (ladies) or if it gets on or near your area i mean, who knows? what if a girl has razor burn down there? that's like a tiny open wound- if a guy cums and it touches that, you could get hiv or any other std! people need to think about that stuff!

FONDL
12-14-2004, 09:27 AM
I agree, Leeah, that we should all be very concerned about STD's and body fluids. And that should work both ways. Which is why I've gotten really pissed off at dancers who take a customer's glasses and insert the temple into their crotch, or take a guy's head and shove it between their legs, or try to stick their tongue down the customer's throat or in his ear - I've had all these things and more happen to me and as a result I never sit next to the stage anymore. Nor do I go to clubs that offer extras. But let's face it, a lotta guys and girls do this stuff regularly, so obviously not everyone agrees with us, which was my earlier point. There's a lot of stupidity on both sides.

grove542000
12-23-2004, 04:38 PM
I agree that "discretion is the better part of valor." Sexual release is an awfully intimate experience to be sharing with a stranger in a dark room which may also contain other strangers. However, I do feel the need to point out that I have had a not-statistically-insignificant number of dancers from dancers who told me at the outset of the dance, or at some other point after the beginning, that they were going to, ummm, put me in a release situation. I've also had a couple of situations where a dancer (without any prior negotiation or discussion), started to pull down pants and boxers in an effort to get to some pretty close quarters action. I assume that a dancer's reasonable expectations would be different under these circumstances than would normally be the case.

I agree with FONDL--it is absolutely gross to have a dancer try to DFK me. I have no desire for that kind of exchange of fluids. In addition to the aesthetic considerations, from a public health point of view, it probably poses more potential health risks to a man than any "extra" other than FS (And I'm not interested in any "extras" at all). Is there some unoffensive way to ward this off, other than my standard default procedure--pursing my lips closely and turning my head away? Although this method lacks a little in the way of finesse, it seems to be effective. I have had this attempted by dancers who I wanted to keep getting a dance from, but just wasn't interested in swapping spit with.

Wwanderer
12-23-2004, 04:48 PM
it is absolutely gross to have a dancer try to DFK me. I have no desire for that kind of exchange of fluids.

If you are ever in Tokyo, I'd suggest that you take a pass on the "kissing clubs"; it sounds like they are not your cup of tea!

-Ww

tampadancer
12-23-2004, 06:54 PM
nasty nasty nasty!

LunaGirl
12-27-2004, 06:08 AM
Just a question but during the lap dancers does anyone worry about the possibility of contracting HIV. Just say they squirt, it goes through their pants and onto say your finger or something in which you have a cut. That's what I'm freaked out about when I start; what kind of the diseases the guy might possess. Hopefully if he does cum it won't go through so quickly and I can jump off before it does.

FONDL
12-27-2004, 11:04 AM
Brittany, I just noticed your post where you accuse me of looking for seedy extras-type places. I don't know where you got that opinion but let me say once more what I've frequently said before: I prefer nice clean places with nice girls and no extras. I purposely avoid places where extras are available. I don't much like the fancy gentlemen's clubs because I think they are overpriced. (Although currently I'm hanging out in one because my current favorite girl works there.) And I don't like the seedy joints at the other extreme either. I like the places in the middle: decent and clean but not so fancy that they have to charge high prices.

The only point that I've been trying to make here is that there are other options for dancers besides the fancy GC's, and some girls would probably make more money in these types of places where the competition isn't quite as strong. A lot of these smaller places take much smaller cuts from their dancers.

lestat1
12-29-2004, 05:11 PM
Lap dances at the clubs in my area now charge between $40 and $60 for *one* song! They were expensive before, and are only going higher. Not all clubs follow the model of numerous, cheap dances. Why would a dancer want to finish a guy off? Well in my clubs, the vast majority of customers get 1-2 songs (maybe 3, and 4 would be a rarity). Make them great, you get a tip and a repeat customer. At $40 to $60 a song, if a dancer gives an "average" dance, I won't be back to her. It's just too expensive. Which is not to say they must "finish" me off, but for most dancers in my area, it's the easiest way they know how to give an "above average" dance (I don't claim that the clubs in my area are very high-caliber).

Senegat
01-04-2005, 05:20 PM
So in conclusion, I don't like it, I no longer go out of my way to do it, and if it happens, he's paying me extra for it. And I'll argue with him about it until I get the money, or I'll threaten to tell the bouncers what he did LOL

And strippers wonder why thye have the reputation of con artists. The guys pay you to give them a tease, and instead you grind them, they come, and then you extort money from them by threatening to sig the bouncers on them? Classy!

Unless the guy planned to come by taking advantage of your mere dance, you have no right to demand money from him.