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yoda57us
07-18-2007, 07:22 AM
Lol - it is kind of weird that I have my back up so hard about this.
I don' think it's weird at all Jenny. My impressions about this guy are colored by my experiences as a customer who has lusted after women I new I couldn't have and how I reacted to the situation. Your impressions are coming from the POV of a woman and a dancer and, as such, someone who has to worry a lot more about stalkers and their behavior than I do. Naturally I'd like to think that I'm right and that Jeff is only harmful his own psyche and his bank account but I have to admit that the longer this goes on the more I lean towards psycho and not just love-sick PL.
rockie
07-18-2007, 08:14 AM
Jeff has documented for the world to see something that has clearly evolved into a stalker case, and yet he continues the pursuit without interruption. Every dancer that sells the fantasy has a customer that doesn't understand that it's an in club sales job. Among the comforts of the stripclub environment is relative anonymity. Jeff 's pursuit certainly shows how that anonymity can change.
xdamage
07-18-2007, 08:19 AM
Jeff reminds me of someone who aspects of Borderline Personality Disorder, or someone who was parented by one. He has a notion about relationships that is typical of those with BPD in which they view others as all good, or all bad, and in which they will take their entire life's worth of emotional pain and believe (really believe without any question) that someone else out there is going to make it all feel better. Of course invariably nobody can live up, and eventually Jeff is going to reach the breaking point and completely devalue her (the other extreme), but he has so much of his hopes and (unrealistic) expectations riding on her now that he is basically going to go all in, or all out.
BrunetteGoddess
07-18-2007, 09:31 AM
I believe I read that he concluded that this HAD to be Bianca not just by her picture, but because by doing more research he found that Claudia Bella had worked at the same club as "Bianca", same insurance company, same life story, etc, so he concluded those coincidences were too much to just be anyone but her.
Creeeeepy guy.
Katrine
07-18-2007, 12:45 PM
Nope. He has no actual proof that its the same woman, or that Claudia Bella has ever been to Massachussets. I wonder if Jeffy reads this thread? 'Cause I would love to do the MySpace thing!
Jenny
07-18-2007, 01:00 PM
I really wouldn't Katrine, unless you want him tracking down and scaring the hell out of some Russian girl named Katerina or something, some place where you used to live. Dude is fucking Michael Myers - he's never going anywhere fast, but somehow he is just there at the end.
There is my caveat - if you do it, I totally want to see.
xdamage
07-18-2007, 01:20 PM
I wonder if Jeffy reads this thread? 'Cause I would love to do the MySpace thing!
Really hard to know what all is going on in Jeff's head, but to be on the safe side, I'd steer clear of him.
yoda57us
07-18-2007, 01:28 PM
Nope. He has no actual proof that its the same woman, or that Claudia Bella has ever been to Massachussets. I wonder if Jeffy reads this thread? 'Cause I would love to do the MySpace thing!
I doubt he reads here considering how quickly he blew the both of us off when we tried to reason with him via email years ago...yes, it's been years! I had to create yet another email address and internet persona just to infiltrate his web site...Jeff doesn't like it when people tell him he's crazy...
I really wouldn't Katrine, unless you want him tracking down and scaring the hell out of some Russian girl named Katerina or something, some place where you used to live. Dude is fucking Michael Myers - he's never going anywhere fast, but somehow he is just there at the end.
There is my caveat - if you do it, I totally want to see.
Me Too!
Lapaholic
07-18-2007, 06:45 PM
Did u know that Claudia has an IMDB listing. Must make Jeff proud with titles like these:
Apprentass 5
Buttman's Bend Over Brazilian Babes 4 ( Wow 4 of these)
Apprentass 2 ( She must have nailed it so well she's back in 5)
Cumstains 4
Service Animals 8 ( I dont want to think about that one!!!)
Latina Fever ( OF course we knew that one)
Oh the list goes on. So obviously Jeff likes anal ... go figure!!! I bet his close circle of freinds cant wait to meet her!!!
ANd her imdb "starmeter" is up 18%. But her sickometer is also up 110%.
Cyndi08
07-18-2007, 07:40 PM
I wonder if it bothers him to watch her porns. At first I would think not, but he is so controlling.
The main theme in all of his writings is his wish the ride in on a white horse and save her from what she must do... being a sex slave and all. He really wants to rescue her and it has just gone too far.
Katrine
07-18-2007, 09:02 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1169634/
WTF? So she was in all of these movies AND working in the club AND learning at the insurance company, etc, etc.......all in 2004?? This can't be the same girl!
Richard_Head
07-18-2007, 09:05 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1169634/
WTF? So she was in all of these movies AND working in the club AND learning at the insurance company, etc, etc.......all in 2004?? This can't be the same girl!That's just blasphemy I tell you!!!! Of course it's her!!!
Lapaholic
07-19-2007, 04:40 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1169634/
WTF? So she was in all of these movies AND working in the club AND learning at the insurance company, etc, etc.......all in 2004?? This can't be the same girl!
Not only did she have time to get it up the yoohaw ( yes yoohaw ) by thirty different guys in just 2004, she managed to steal Jeff's heart. A very busy girl indeed!!! Plus she had already done "Service Animals" by the time she was swooning Jethro er I mean Jeff.
What does jeff tell his mom about the love of his life? I imagine its like Sylar and his mom in "Heroes".
Mom did u watch the dvd I gave u, "CUmstains 4"? Isnt she a dream? If Claudia/Bianca would only marry me, i know i could be good.
Yikes!!!
yoda57us
07-19-2007, 09:05 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1169634/
WTF? So she was in all of these movies AND working in the club AND learning at the insurance company, etc, etc.......all in 2004?? This can't be the same girl!
Well, Let me preface this by saying that I don't actually believe it's same girl either. That being said, very often actresses shoot a large number of scenes in a short period of time to be released one at a time over an extended period-sometimes as long as a year or more....
Of course, the fact that Bianca had no visa and would not be able to ravel freely back and forth from Brazil to the US would make the whole "commuting porn star" thing a bit far-fetched.
See, the stripper/insurance lady scenario works well. The stripper in Massachusetts/Porn star in Rio thing really doesn't make much sense...only to Jeff I guess...
yoda57us
07-19-2007, 09:11 AM
I wonder if it bothers him to watch her porns. At first I would think not, but he is so controlling.
My hunch is that he is spanking his monkey two or three times a day while mumbling dirty words and calling his long lost love a cheap slut.....hope he's using some lube....:O
The main theme in all of his writings is his wish the ride in on a white horse and save her from what she must do... being a sex slave and all. He really wants to rescue her and it has just gone too far.
That's how all PL's start when they fall in love with a stripper. "let me take you away from all of this, you are too good for this" blah blah blah! The deeper into the sex indusrty he thinks she is getting the more irrational his behavior seems to be getting.
Lapaholic
07-19-2007, 05:45 PM
My hunch is that he is spanking his monkey two or three times a day while mumbling dirty words and calling his long lost love a cheap slut.....hope he's using some lube....:O
:rotfl:Ahhh that was funny!!!
yoda57us
07-19-2007, 06:02 PM
:rotfl:Ahhh that was funny!!!
TY, I have my good days and my bad days....;D
Richard_Head
07-19-2007, 10:03 PM
He's back at it:
7/18/07: I discovered this afternoon that Claudia also removed her Orkut profile. Everything, network and all, gone. This is so tragic. I never intended this. I'm getting very concerned about her. I ask any mature, trusted friend with face to face access to PLEASE sit down with Claudia and talk about this situation before she confines her life to a cave. And please contact me (http://www.voltabianca.info/contact.html) and let me know that you have or you will. Claudia... sweet dove... I love you... I love you.
7/19/07: Claudia... sweet dove. I apologize for the accusatory nature of my open letter of July 16th which appears below. I am human. I was angry and hurt. For three years of my life, my number one goal had been to find you and restore our friendship. I spent $7,000 and went through more than you can imagine. I've lost so much. It's hard. It's just so hard...
Please, I want you to forget about all this current turmoil. I want you to think back to the days at the club when you first met me. Think back to your initial impressions and intuitions toward me. Think back to the second private dance you performed and how compelled you were to hug me afterwards, not just once, but twice. Those impressions and intuitions are the truth about who I am and my role in your life, not what's happening now. Please, focus on that truth. I love you.
http://www.voltabianca.info/
Cyndi08
07-19-2007, 10:07 PM
Think back to when you hugged me, not just once but twice....
Oh bother :-/
Richard_Head
07-19-2007, 10:11 PM
Think back to when you hugged me, not just once but twice....If that's not true love I don't know what is!!!
Katrine
07-19-2007, 10:11 PM
Hmmmm, she's removed her other profiles too? Perhaps this lady really is afraid that he will find her and take actions? EVEN if she isn't the same girl! He's just that creepizoid. Yoda, you must talk to him, do something, please....sweet dove!
Jenny
07-19-2007, 10:14 PM
Well geez. I didn't know that she was compelled to hug him. Twice. This actually changes everything.
Dude - Jeff - if you love something... set it fucking free. Don't track it to Rio and then scare half to death.
lestat1
07-19-2007, 10:24 PM
This guy is like Lenny with a mouse that he pets too hard and crushes.
yoda57us
07-20-2007, 04:13 AM
Just for the record, Brazilians hug everybody twice and kiss you on both cheeks. They only want you sexually if they hug you three times....
Kat, my sweet dove, as much as I enjoy watching this train wreck I have been considering emailing our pal Jeff again....
He completely ignored the last two I sent but that has never stopped me before....
Lapaholic
07-20-2007, 05:09 AM
Please, I want you to forget about all this current turmoil. I want you to think back to the days at the club when you first met me. Think back to your initial impressions and intuitions toward me. Think back to the second private dance you performed and how compelled you were to hug me afterwards, not just once, but twice.
OH My God ... she does love him!!!!
Ill miss Jeff after he swallows the barrel of his favourite firearm.
Katrine
07-20-2007, 06:03 AM
Just for the record, Brazilians hug everybody twice and kiss you on both cheeks. They only want you sexually if they hug you three times....
Kat, my sweet dove, as much as I enjoy watching this train wreck I have been considering emailing our pal Jeff again....
He completely ignored the last two I sent but that has never stopped me before....
True, and the Dutch kiss you 3 times. French kiss twice. Russians kiss once ,etc.....
I think there are two different Claudia Bellas. The earlier Claudia looks like a TOTALLY different woman than the later. Early claudia has curly hair and a very full mouth. Later Claudia, different facial structure, etc...
But her figure is the same, so perhaps Claudia had some work done. Brazil is the capital of cosmetic surgery. My friend had some stuff done inexpensively in Sao Paolo.
Cyndi08
07-20-2007, 06:12 AM
I think it's very likely it's the same person, simply due to Jeff's disturbing attention to detail and how extensive his obsession is... unfortunately. I wish someone could get through to him. This is stalking. If she wanted him, she could have found him.
yoda57us
07-20-2007, 10:58 AM
But her figure is the same, so perhaps Claudia had some work done. Brazil is the capital of cosmetic surgery. My friend had some stuff done inexpensively in Sao Paolo.
Yeah it is....I know a couple of dancing Brazilian sisters who schedule their trips home to visit family along with cosmetic procedures. Boobs, lips, butt, nose, vagina (yup!) Tummy tucks (one of them has had two new belly buttons since I've known her), thighs..and a few things I've probably forgotten...
I guess Bianca could be Claudia....heck, anybody could...
"It's hard. It's just so hard..."
Yep, I bet it is Jeffy.
Oh well, back to the video...
sander8son
07-22-2007, 05:18 AM
Yeah, anytime I think I'm approaching PL behavior I can console myself in the fact that I've never walked the streets of Framingham Ma. showing total strangers a drawing of a stripper that I can't seem to locate....
Framingham? No. But Fall River,MA? Well thats a different story, now isn't it you sick freak :P
As far as the timetable goes, the villian in this story(Bianca, naturally) left our dear hero (Jeffy-poo) in early summer 2004. May I believe. Thus, she easily could've made all the 2004 porns in either the US before she left, or in brazil upon returning home. Or some here, some there. So its still plausible.
:idea:You know, I've got a rediculous amount of credit and plenty of vacation time. Perhaps I should offer to buy Jeffy and myself plane tickets to Brazil so I can get a front row seat for all the action.
:photos:
yoda57us
07-22-2007, 05:59 AM
Framingham? No. But Fall River,MA? Well thats a different story, now isn't it you sick freak :P
Hey , there are REAL psycho killers in Fall River...I don't even joke about that place....
As far as the timetable goes, the villian in this story(Bianca, naturally) left our dear hero (Jeffy-poo) in early summer 2004. May I believe. Thus, she easily could've made all the 2004 porns in either the US before she left, or in brazil upon returning home. Or some here, some there. So its still plausible.
I believe she bailed on him some time in July...and it scares me that I know this.
You know, there are SO many Brazilian strippers in Ma/RI/Ct it really wouldn't shock me to find out that dear old Bianca has been doin' the naked samba at some other club or two for the past three years. Jeffy was willing to spend thousands on newspaper adds and private dicks but he never really conducted any sort of exhaustive strip club search. I tried to email him about some clubs worth checking out and he really didn't want to hear it. He turned her and himself into a martyr almost from the start of this foolishness and refused to believe she was doing anything but hiding from either INS, an abusive ex or Jeff himself...the old saying applies...what a loser.
:idea:You know, I've got a rediculous amount of credit and plenty of vacation time. Perhaps I should offer to buy Jeffy and myself plane tickets to Brazil so I can get a front row seat for all the action.
:photos:
Sandy, you really want to sit on a plane with this guy for twelve hours?
sander8son
07-22-2007, 06:16 AM
I believe she bailed on him some time in July...and it scares me that I know this.
May, July, Whatever. Still plenty of time to make a handful of movies.
You know, there are SO many Brazilian strippers in Ma/RI/Ct it really wouldn't shock me to find out that dear old Bianca has been doin' the naked samba at some other club or two for the past three years. Jeffy was willing to spend thousands on newspaper adds and private dicks but he never really conducted any sort of exhaustive strip club search. I tried to email him about some clubs worth checking out and he really didn't want to hear it. He turned her and himself into a martyr almost from the start of this foolishness and refused to believe she was doing anything but hiding from either INS, an abusive ex or Jeff himself...the old saying applies...what a loser.
Yoda, please... there's no room for logic in this thread.
Sandy, you really want to sit on a plane with this guy for twelve hours?
The way I see it, if Jeff actually does find Bianca, one of the two of them will die within 24 hours of that. This way, I'd get to see someone get murdered. Who knows, might get to see one of them get raped too; before, durring or after murder? who knows, maybe all three.
So hell yah I'd sit next to him for 12 hours on a plane listening to his psychotic ramble. He'd be so amped up about finding her. And his enthusiasm would spread to me. I'd be so amped up by the fact that I know I'd get to watch one or both of them die, yet he has no clue. How can I resist that?
yoda57us
07-22-2007, 07:24 AM
May, July, Whatever. Still plenty of time to make a handful of movies.
Agreed. She could have shot a couple of scenes in a weekend and been back to her insurance job on Monday and back to the club any nite that same week.
Yoda, please... there's no room for logic in this thread.
Yeah, what was I thinking....
The way I see it, if Jeff actually does find Bianca, one of the two of them will die within 24 hours of that. This way, I'd get to see someone get murdered. Who knows, might get to see one of them get raped too; before, durring or after murder? who knows, maybe all three.
So hell yah I'd sit next to him for 12 hours on a plane listening to his psychotic ramble. He'd be so amped up about finding her. And his enthusiasm would spread to me. I'd be so amped up by the fact that I know I'd get to watch one or both of them die, yet he has no clue. How can I resist that?
Lol, I guess you can't Sandy....bring a camera!
RoseWhite
07-22-2007, 07:50 AM
I predict he IS going to find his way to Claudia Bella somehow, face to face. It doesn't matter that it's not the same person. He believes it is, and now he has a real, tangible, concrete person to aim for.
This face-to-face happens one of two ways.
Outcome A:
HER: "Jeff who?" (And/or "Oh shit, it's that guy who has me mixed up with some stripper in America & prompted me to take down my page!")
HIM: (eventually) *Blammo!*
Outcome B:
HER: "Jeff who?" (And/or "Oh shit, it's that guy who has me mixed up with some stripper in America & prompted me to take down my page!")
HIM: *returns to America, writes update* Our dream nearly came true, but it is so much worse than I thought. Poor Bianca is either in denial of our love or has been brainwashed into amnesia. When our eyes met, I saw, for a moment, a flicker of recognition - just a moment, but it was unmistakable. She blinked. Not once, but TWICE. There is no doubt that she was blinking the tears away. For whatever reason, she is resisting our destiny.
But all is not lost! This final resistance only proves just how much she really loves me, deep in her core. This means we are, at last, in the home stretch. I now intend to help her seek medical attention to break through her amnesia, if that is what's ailing her now.
BianClauDaniela! Whatever has happened, whatever you have done, don't resist! Forget your guilt and shame! Give in to me! I know I saw that look in your eyes as I was being dragged away by your bouncers! You owe me! You owwweee meeeee . . .
For those who could like to contribute to her medical help, I've started a fundraiser, and plan to return to Rio at a date in the near future.
And so forth. I think the latter scenario is most likely.
yoda57us
07-22-2007, 11:15 AM
I predict he IS going to find his way to Claudia Bella somehow, face to face. It doesn't matter that it's not the same person. He believes it is, and now he has a real, tangible, concrete person to aim for.
I completely agree. It doesn't really matter if this is the same girl or not. It's a real live woman that he might actually be able to track down....though I still don't think it would be all that easy.
WiseGuy_TX
07-22-2007, 12:15 PM
"The Great Smoking Gun - "It's the tattoo, stupid!" The same pattern, the same size, the same location (her right lower torso). She probably had it done around the year 2002. In the Claudia Bella photo that appears on the cover of "Apprentass 6" (below) she does not have it yet and she was probably only 18 or 19 when that feature was produced. With both Bianca and Claudia, it is the only marking on their bodies." - Jeff Gill...I think i saw this episode on "King of the Hill"
"As we suspected, when Bianca decided for some reason that a compliment I gave her warranted my death penalty from her life " - Jeff Gill...death?
"During the first weekend in April - the same weekend of the death of my former boss.
I spent most of the day hiding my tears, followed by anger at a deceased former boss who caused my financial hardships in 2003 and early 2004. Those hardships prevented me from attending the club and meeting Daniela until a mere seven weeks before her departure. Had I had just one or two more weeks" - Jeff Gill...more death?, a killer i tell ya.
BTW, the pic i posted is the only Daniela Costa in MA. Not saying its his sweet dove, just saying thats what the internet turned up.
Mastridonicus
07-22-2007, 01:36 PM
http://www.voltabianca.info/positive_ID_match.html
This page is classic. Especially the piercings and cup sizes. Hoooowww embarrassing.
I bet the 7k would have kept her in the club. :/
Katrine
08-01-2007, 08:20 PM
Mas!
http://www.voltabianca.info/
Lapaholic
08-01-2007, 08:28 PM
O no mas!!! :eek:
Lets hope Claudia/Bianca/Whatever hasnt made any enemies lately... Maybe he is in his last throes ( like the Iraqi insurgency !) and this is one last desperate attempt to reach her. Course u know what that will mean - back to the strip bars in Fitchburg MA, Watch out ladies, heeee's back!!!!
Richard_Head
08-01-2007, 10:12 PM
Ok, who wants to send the email claiming to be a trusted friend of Claudia/Bianca/Daniela?
sander8son
08-02-2007, 05:12 PM
Ok, who wants to send the email claiming to be a trusted friend of Claudia/Bianca/Daniela?
Hahaha, fabulous! I think you should go for it!
SportsWriter2
08-02-2007, 08:09 PM
Hey , there are REAL psycho killers in Fall River...I don't even joke about that place....
No kidding. In 2006, Fred Dixon was convicted for the June 29, 2004 murder of Raymond Davila, who was killed when his wheelchair was pushed down a flight of stairs at the Ship’s Cove Apartments in Fall River.
I remember his "girlfriend" on the news that June night crying. She danced in Providence and clerked a telecom bodega in FR. She hooked up with old and disabled men, including Davila, for money and coke.
She was also a little freak who loved being taped (duct and video). Five feet, 94 pounds, cute, light brown and tight. One of my favorite psychos.
Sixteen months after the murder, she got deported to the Azores for assault with a deadly weapon (a Mercedes kompressor coupe). Did I start a web page about her? Did I follow her to San Miguel? Please, FR is full of cute little freaks. I found another one who lived four blocks from that telecom bodega.
You want some of that, Sandy? :)
yoda57us
08-03-2007, 07:44 AM
Nice post Sporty...even more irrelevant than usual....
SportsWriter2
08-03-2007, 11:20 AM
Nice post Sporty...even more irrelevant than usual....
I'm just trying to help you get over your Fall River fears. I'd also recommend Bill Reynolds' minor classic, Fall River Dreams.
yoda57us
08-03-2007, 11:28 AM
Fitchburg is actually a much scarier place than Fall River....
sander8son
08-04-2007, 10:43 AM
You want some of that, Sandy? :)
Was Lizzie Borden from Fall River? Because I'd plow her decayed ass.
Sporty, you know as well as anyone, I don't have standards.
Lapaholic
08-04-2007, 05:43 PM
Was Lizzie Borden from Fall River? Because I'd plow her decayed ass.
Sporty, you know as well as anyone, I don't have standards.
Yep ... Spooky ( note to self. Do NOT stop at Falls River on way to Cape!!! EVER!!!)
Maybe Jeff is from Falls River originally !!!
yoda57us
08-04-2007, 08:25 PM
Yep ... Spooky ( note to self. Do NOT stop at Falls River on way to Cape!!! EVER!!!)
Maybe Jeff is from Falls River originally !!!
Don't worry L, Fall River is not part of any direct route between Virginia and Cape Cod.
Lapaholic
08-05-2007, 02:56 AM
Whew!!! Note deleted, thx....
sander8son
08-05-2007, 04:51 AM
Don't worry L, Fall River is not part of any direct route between Virginia and Cape Cod.
Right, its only part of the most direct route. Take 95 all the way, then get on I-195 in south providence, brings you right through fall river on your way to the cape. FR really isn't that bad. You can find more thugs in Cheaters "Gentleman's Club" on a Wednesday night than you can find in all of Fall River.