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Lapaholic
09-05-2007, 06:25 AM
"Claudia is a very sweet lady of breathtaking beauty. She can inspire love and devotion from a cold stone... among other things. Combined with her porn star status, she can win any man she wants and she can afford to be picky. But the decision Claudia needs to make for herself is this: Does she want the life of an occasional porn star (but otherwise normal Brazilian girl) who accepts men at face value and lives life openly and directly? Or, is she really more comfortable as an undercover FBI agent, surrounding herself with secrecy, espionage, and cover up? She can't be both. And the sooner she makes her decision... and makes the correct one... the sooner this agonizing tale can finally yield to a happy ending."

WTF?????

Where the f&ck has the FBI been in all this ... I hope she makes the correct decision. Poor Claudia, she prolly wishes she could find Bianca too!!!

Richard_Head
09-05-2007, 08:26 AM
And the sooner she makes her decision... and makes the correct one... the sooner this agonizing tale can finally yield to a happy ending."Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't she already made her decision and he just fails to accept it? Move on already Jeff.

Lapaholic
09-05-2007, 12:25 PM
Does he think she is with the FBI and thats why she cant be w/ him. Has this guy gone off the deep end or what ....

242_fair
09-06-2007, 12:58 PM
I really really really want to read the email about what the porn star said!!!

Phil-W
09-06-2007, 02:18 PM
And the probability that said dancer bears any resemblence in real life to this idiot's fantasies?

Problem she (whoever she may be) has got is that there's no practical action she can take except to hope said nutter never tracks down her address or other contact details.

Don't need to be a pyschologist to work out that if he ever meets her face to face in a secluded place this is not going to have a happy ending.

Phil.

Mastridonicus
09-06-2007, 05:55 PM
Seriously, You guys don't know what an old man, who's spent an AGE looking for the prize in the cereal box got her?

Really?

Think about it:
-Secured a gift (I.E. Expensive and Rare)
-Make a Decision (After continuous talks of devotion and loyalty from her)
-Happy ending. (Happily ever after)

This isn't that special 24 karat gold studded lub he wants her to use on her to sacrifice some unborn children.

He's gonna ask her to marry him. Bet ya.

Ladies and Gentlemen, it's all downhill from here. Even when ya don't think it can get worse

RoseWhite
09-06-2007, 06:01 PM
^^Sweetheart, apple of my eye, the marriage proposal he's already done. Literally years ago. It's been on the site in the form of "The Immigration Proposal". Scroll down a little here (http://www.voltabianca.info/index2.html). It just goes without saying!

The lifelong gift he referred to most recently was the purchase of "claudiabella.com". On his main page: "8/24/07 - After a month's effort and over $1,000 U.S. in total expenses, it was finally confirmed today. I have successfully purchased the "claudiabella.com" Internet domain from a European domain registrar who reserved it primarily for speculation purposes. Once a reliable means of reaching Claudia is established - whenever that is - I will offer it to her as an ongoing gift that she will have for the rest of her life."

Mastridonicus
09-06-2007, 06:09 PM
Hahahahah.....Jesus CHRIST.

See what happens when you skim?! Man, this woman is thorough.

In my own defense and disgust however, I refused to go through that site any more than the one page, since when I read the whole thing forever ago. :D

RoseWhite
09-06-2007, 06:27 PM
Sorry babe. I yam what I yam.

So, when are you gonna buy "rosewhite.com" for MY lifelong symbol of devotion?!? :lovestruc

FBR
09-06-2007, 07:13 PM
^^ Mast doesn't pay for...well...you know ;)

FBR

242_fair
09-06-2007, 08:38 PM
Well this is scary

"Thanks for providing her mobile number. I need to think about how I'm going to handle this. Perhaps when my plans for Rio are finally in line, I'll call her and arrange to be a client"


If Claudia - somehow - turns out to be "just" a double of Bianca and I am convinced of that, I would be there to apologize to her in person. If not (a lot more likely), then we will be face to face with no comfortable escape for either of us.

WiseGuy_TX
09-06-2007, 09:19 PM
...i'm sure everyone has noticed, each time he thinks she has "denied/rejected" him, he goes into a form of rage/denial. I'm just not sure if he's going to use a Glock or a Smith & Wesson.

yoda57us
09-07-2007, 01:18 AM
It's a bit long but I've decided to post the email that Jeff got from Claudia as it seems evident he is not going to post it on his site...
Of course, what fun would her email be without his long winded and PLish-bordering-on-psycho response

Hello Jeff!
I am contacting you to let you know that you have a big misconception!
I call myself Claudia Bella, but unfortunately, I never lived in the
United States nor danced at some nightclub. I did several films.
Never was I with you. Please, I would like that you continue the search for
your Daniela. But I insist that you withdraw my pictures from the Internet.
You now have my email in case you want to leave your message, but I am certainly not who you are seeking! I feel very sorry.

Lucienne Batista

and the response from Jeffy boy...

Dear Lucienne,

After I received your astonishing message yesterday, I spent over an
hour perfecting the translation, and much of my time since then trying
to digest it. I now believe you and trust your word. But why did you wait until
late August to contact me, instead of late June or July, shortly after Sam
made you aware of my web site? Why did you withdraw your listing from
Contatos and disconnect your prepaid cell phone back in July? My
telecommunications friend says it was a deliberate disconnect
initiated by the customer. Daniela did the same thing a couple weeks
after she left the club and totally disappeared.
I hope you weren't afraid of me. I humbly apologize if you were.
Please, if you prefer to make a living as an escort (and it wouldseem
preferable to working Discoteca Help or the termas clubs - especially
for an established porn star), by all means, please reinstate your
wonderful listing. And try to see if you can get your old number back
so established customers can find you again. I have tremendous respect
for you and have no intention to do you harm.

The old saying goes that everyone has a double out there somewhere.
But as you can see from my web site, you and Daniela are more than
that. You are practically clones of each other and the two of you are
from the same city, no less. Every (and I mean EVERY) physical
characteristic you have she has, and both of you even picked the same
tattoo and put it in the same place on your bodies. (Damn that tattoo!.. )
And, as if that weren't enough, the similarities don't stop there.
The two of you also have the same personality characteristics. "Casting de
Modelos" is a masterpiece of a movie not just because your beauty and
sexual power come through so graphically. But your personality comes
through so strongly as well. In the scene around the pool where you
are sitting with your first partner, your gestures and the placing of
your hand on his shoulder is totally compatible with Daniela's
personality. When this partner falls asleep before he finishes, the
look on your face is the same look that Daniela frequently had when
she came on stage to begin her dance routine. Your exchange with
Ellen Matheus, again, is totally consistent with Daniela's personality.
Your acting ability and screen presence, by the way, is absolutely
awesome. I say this as a person with a media background who can
appreciate such things. You have more talent than most mainstream
American actresses. And the flow of your Portuguese speech during your
encounter with Dino is more poetic than anything I've ever heard in English.
What is so odd and disorienting about this situation is that back in
February, when I began to think that your image was actually Daniela,
I fell in love all over again. But apparently, it turns out that since
that time, I was not loving Daniela but identical characteristics as
expressed through you. It now seems that for the last six months, I
haven't really been loving Daniela at all. Prior to seeing your image,
I had largely given up the search (sadly) and was preparing to move
on with my life.

Another disorienting aspect is the timing of your message. Just this
past weekend I finished a month long process of acquiring the
"claudiabella.com" Internet domain. Yes, that's right. I now own it.
If you do a Whois search, you will see all my contact information,
address and everything. I was still convinced that you were Daniela
and that I was estranged from you. I wanted to buy the domain and find
a way to offer it as a gift in an attempt to ease the estrangement.
The domain purchase was not cheap. I had to buy it from a European
domain registrar who also speculates in domain names. Someone at that
company must have heard of you and thought the name had potential
value. Prior to March 2005, you or anyone else could have registered
"claudiabella.com" for less than $10 U.S. But now, because it fell
into the hands of speculators, it ended up costing me $900 U.S.
(around 1800 R$) just for the domain and another $160 U.S. in
additional fees. It's hardly a sum I can afford given my income and
other expenses. But I did it anyway. I wanted the estrangement to end
and I thought a dramatic purchase like this was my best shot.

Although it was obviously not intended, my efforts over the past two
months have undoubtedly done harm to your career and reputation. I
feel the need to make it up to you in some way. I can use the purchase
of the domain for that purpose. I may now own it, but it really and
truly should be yours to use. What I propose is this: I can buy a
hosting package that would only cost from $5 to $9 U.S. per month.
When I have one lined up, I can email you the user name and password
so that you will have FTP access to the site. You could then use the
space as you see fit. Most of the more popular American porn
performers (male and female) have their own web sites. But even if you
don't want one, there are private places on the space where you can
store photos or a portfolio that you can make available to producers
who may not be familiar with you. My promise is that I would always
keep the monthly payments up to date via automatic credit card debit
so that the performance of the web space is uninterrupted. I would
really like to do this for you, so let me know if I can.

Finally, if there is any other thing I can do from my vantage point
here in the States, let me know. It would be my pleasure to help
someone as beautiful and as immensely talented as you are. I should
also take that trip to Rio which I have been proposing for months,
regardless of how this search has turned out.
Thanks for finally getting in touch with me. Let me know if I can
provide you with a web site or help you in any other way.

Sincerely,
Jeff

P.S. It may be a couple more days before I can take the pictures off
the web site. Your message is requiring a lot of things to be
reshuffled.

I got this email from Jeffy Boy almost two weeks ago. Claudia's pictures are still on his site even though she asked him to remove them and he agreed. Jeff is his own webmaster. He could have had the pictures down by the end of the day if he really wanted to take them down.
It's clear to me that what Jeff is really in love with is the whole obsession of wanting something he can't have.

Phil-W
09-07-2007, 01:33 PM
I think this FBI thing might be what psychologists call cognitive dissonance.

We all like to think we are rational in what we do. When evidence comes along to suggest our belief systems are wrong we adjust those belief systems to make us (in our own minds) appear rational again.

Jeff started out thinking Caludia Bella was his ideal woman and was sure to fall in love with him - only unfortunate circumstance prevented it.

He then spent umpteen thousand dollars in a futile search for her. Either he's not found the right person, or he has found the right one and she's sensibly avoiding him.

Jeff's belief systems do not allow him to think that this woman has zero interest in him (and is probably scared shitless by him) - so he has to come up with a alternative belief system that explains it.

Her being an undercover FBI agent explains (to him) why she's been so difficult to find and so good at avoiding him.

That way he avoids having to face up to the truth that she'd far rather he left her alone - cognitive dissonance at work.

Phil.

Jenny
09-07-2007, 04:05 PM
I think he is using "FBI agent" as pejorative hyperbole - while I do think he is a stalker and dangerous, I don't think, based on that post, that he actually thinks she is an FBI agent. I think it is just referring to what he thinks are unreasonable degrees of secrecy and multiple names and stuff (and no wonder it is "unprecedented even in her industry" - seeing as he is most likely dealing with 3 different people). Similarly - like he writes back to her, being conciliatory and trying to draw out another response and saying that he believes he made a mistake - he obviously doesn't believe he made a mistake. Being crazy doesn't mean that he is incapable of lying.

Richard_Head
09-07-2007, 10:22 PM
I got this email from Jeffy Boy almost two weeks ago.

Interesting, you got that email 2 weeks ago, then on 9/4 he writes:


I am stating once again for the record that beyond any doubt, Brazilian porn actress Claudia Bella IS the Bianca I knew (http://www.voltabianca.info/positive_ID_match.html) as a club dancer in Fitchburg, Massachusetts in 2004.

Obviously he's not buying Claudia Bella's story.

Mastridonicus
09-07-2007, 11:00 PM
Interesting, you got that email 2 weeks ago, then on 9/4 he writes:



Obviously he's not buying Claudia Bella's story.

He's so SMART. Communicate with her via e-mail and fein discretion, and shhhh, secretly tell his PUBLIC WEBSITE VIEWERS cause it will never get back to her.

Really, we can call the guy stupid all we want. But really, the manufacturing going on here is genius. He is whipping whole stories out of thin air, this guy is going to snap.

WiseGuy_TX
09-08-2007, 04:24 AM
...thanks for posting the email, Yoda, thats good stuff. I hope Jeffloony does'nt come here and realize he has spies.

Amen Richard_Head. It was odd for our PL from hell to cave-in so quick by the second sentence into his email. Then midway he tries very hard to pacify her by appearing harmless and apologizing. Then he tries to bait the hook by ending it with a harmless way to stay connected by GIVING THE GIFT TO HER and making monthly payments forever. Then, tops it off with a casual "maybe i'll take that trip to RIO ....(to confess my love, my sweet dove, and put a bullet in your porn star head so this agonizing tale can finally yield to a happy ending)".

yoda57us
09-08-2007, 04:55 AM
I think he is using "FBI agent" as pejorative hyperbole - while I do think he is a stalker and dangerous, I don't think, based on that post, that he actually thinks she is an FBI agent. I think it is just referring to what he thinks are unreasonable degrees of secrecy and multiple names and stuff (and no wonder it is "unprecedented even in her industry" - seeing as he is most likely dealing with 3 different people). Similarly - like he writes back to her, being conciliatory and trying to draw out another response and saying that he believes he made a mistake - he obviously doesn't believe he made a mistake. Being crazy doesn't mean that he is incapable of lying.

I agree, In addition to being a delusional PL Jeff also has issues that he has spoken about on his site with authority, government and society in general that are all rolled into his "Search for Bianca". He will never admit to himself, or his readers that he is wrong as it would mean an end to the search.


...thanks for posting the email, Yoda, thats good stuff. I hope Jeffloony does'nt come here and realize he has spies.


I know Jeff looked at this site in 2004 after both Kat and I emailed him about the futility of his then fledgling endeavor. He didn't want to hear from any nay-sayers and told us both to basically go fuck ourselves. I infiltrated his site and got on his email update list by sucking up and using a different name and email.
Jeff is not interested in the truth...or at least not in any other version of it than his! I doubt he has ever come back here but if he has he's never mentioned it in his writings.

sander8son
09-08-2007, 06:38 AM
First off, he's not suggesting she IS an fbi agent. He's saying that she could become one. In his delusional world she has two choices, be an occaisonal porn star in brazil OR marry him, move to the US, and become an FBI agent. That's just common sense. He thinks that the way she uses multiple names and avoids him makes her a perfect candidate for a job with the "FBI". What he's really thinking of is spy movies as he clearly has no idea what an agent really does.

I also like how he was going to give claudiabella.com to daniella/bianca, but now that he's found out it's not her, he's going to keep the site, but allow claudia to use it how she likes... so she can post everything private she wants and he has access to it. Something tells me its what he would've ended up doing with daniella/bianca... which ofcorse is who he's still convinced he's talking to.


Genius Jeff, pure genius. Yoda, I purchased www.yoda57.us for you. I'll extend the same offer to you as Jeff has to Claudia.

yoda57us
09-08-2007, 06:37 PM
Yoda, I purchased www.yoda57.us (http://www.yoda57.us) for you. I'll extend the same offer to you as Jeff has to Claudia.

My very own stalker! Yes! I have finally arrived...

WiseGuy_TX
10-01-2007, 05:56 AM
9/27/2007 ...perhaps Jeffy and a coworker are booking sweet dove's escort services. Any new emails Yoda?

"Behind the scenes work is now beginning, and it may even alter the schedule and lifestyle of one member of the support team, and possibly myself."

Lapaholic
10-01-2007, 06:30 AM
I just love the friend who can detect "lying" even in translated writings. What a wiener!!!

Yes Yoda ---- any emails on the ol' bff support network?

sander8son
10-01-2007, 09:18 AM
Is yoda a member of his support group? Are you the one who knows when people are lying in text?

yoda57us
10-01-2007, 04:34 PM
No new Emails....

It appears that Jeff has done exactly as we all probably suspected he would: Convinced himself that Claudia is lying to him in order to continue the justification of his "search".

What fascinates me is the fact that Jeff seems to have such a team of experts at his disposal. Email routing and server experts, translators who read minds, it's amazing!

Support system? Lol, give me a break! He's taking the advice of total strangers on the internet who see him for the self-righteous and gullible fool that he is.

Though I am not a member of this "support team" that he claims exists I have tried to give him sound advice a few times based on my experiences with Brazilian dancers. His understanding of how life in this country is for an illegal alien is basically flawed and his logic of how stripping or the porn industry work is also completely off-base. Whenever I tell him something he doesn't wan to hear he simply doesn't respond to the email. His "support team" are probably all bleeding him for cash by telling him what he wants to hear.

Richard_Head
10-01-2007, 07:06 PM
No new Emails....

It appears that Jeff has done exactly as we all probably suspected he would: Convinced himself that Claudia is lying to him in order to continue the justification of his "search".

What fascinates me is the fact that Jeff seems to have such a team of experts at his disposal. Email routing and server experts, translators who read minds, it's amazing!

Support system? Lol, give me a break! He's taking the advice of total strangers on the internet who see him for the self-righteous and gullible fool that he is.

Though I am not a member of this "support team" that he claims exists I have tried to give him sound advice a few times based on my experiences with Brazilian dancers. His understanding of how life in this country is for an illegal alien is basically flawed and his logic of how stripping or the porn industry work is also completely off-base. Whenever I tell him something he doesn't wan to hear he simply doesn't respond to the email. His "support team" are probably all bleeding him for cash by telling him what he wants to hear.Hmmm, I wonder if I could bleed him out of a free trip to Brazil? I'm sure I could come up with some sort of vital information to 'help' him with his search.

sander8son
10-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if I could bleed him out of a free trip to Brazil? I'm sure I could come up with some sort of vital information to 'help' him with his search.

I had simillar thoughts: I wonder if I could become part of his team. Could be a fun and easy second job. }:D

Katrine
10-01-2007, 08:43 PM
http://www.aeropause.com/archives/wtf-cat.jpg


Unfucking believable? His logic makes as much sense as the pic I just posted. So if she's contacting him to tell him that she doesn't want him pursuing her any longer.......

Wow, just wow.:O

Darcy Foxx
10-01-2007, 11:59 PM
kinda makes you wonder how easy it'd be to get money out of him for fake information...

yoda57us
10-02-2007, 03:34 AM
kinda makes you wonder how easy it'd be to get money out of him for fake information...

Hmmmm....

Hello Jeff, you don't know me, my name is Buck Naked. I am an American male porn star from Boston who traveled to Brazil several years ago to shoot a porn film. On my flight I met a lovely woman named Deniela Bianca who told me she was also on her way to Rio to shoot several films while on a break from her regular job dancing at a strip club in Massachusetts.
During the entire 12 hour flight she kept talking about this handsome and charming man she had met at her club named Jeff...her pet name for you was "love monkey" and she just couldn't stop talking about how much she enjoyed grinding on your dick while you told her how beautiful she was and kept handing her $20 bills.

As fate would have it we wound up working on the same film and I had a scene with Bianca who uses the name Claudia Bella in her movies. Anyway, as I was schtooping her ass all she kept doing was calling out your name Jeff....to the point where it was actually getting a bit annoying! As we climaxed she begged me to shoot my "Jeff love seed" all over her face and breasts. She rubbed every last drop of my spooge into her body as she moaned and mumbled something about it being the only way she could have you.

Dude, this chick is into you big time! She's afraid to contact you as she doesn't think you will be able to accept her career as a famous Brazilian anal queen porn star. Do the right thing Jeff. Fly to Brazil, take Deniela in your arms and carry her off into the sunset where you can spend the rest of your life trying to satisfy her with your hopelessly inadequate non-porn star penis. For some reason none of the dozens of well hung guys she boinks every day both on the porn sets and durng her work as a every high priced escort seem to satisfy her. She wants YOU!
For a mere $5000 I can provide you with her phone number and the address to her mom's house where she stays while in Rio. By the way, when you get there, it there is a hanger on the door it means she's busy, come back later....

Things have been a bit slow for me in porn since the Herpes thing came out a few months after that shoot otherwise I wouldn't even ask for the cash. I just wanna see you two crazy kids get together!

Sincerely,
Buck

Nah, I couldn't....:O}:D/:O

sander8son
10-02-2007, 04:56 AM
Stop being a pussy. Do it.

Lapaholic
10-02-2007, 06:17 AM
Nah, I couldn't....

Yes u could! ....

WiseGuy_TX
10-02-2007, 06:46 AM
...something tells me Jeffy's support group member will get wood reading that text and know it's a lieeeee !!:D

Katrine
10-02-2007, 01:12 PM
Dammit, what is he going to do about her NOT wanting to contact him? Why is he remembering her fondly? Can ANYONE get through to him??

yoda57us
10-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Dammit, what is he going to do about her NOT wanting to contact him? Why is he remembering her fondly? Can ANYONE get through to him??

As I said, I have tried. He never responds to the emails. He is much more interested in his obsession than he is in hearing reasonable truths.

Lapaholic
10-05-2007, 09:23 PM
Apparently Mr Jeff had received an email from a frequent traveller to Brazil ( Artic maybe ??) who says he knows Cluadia and the email Jeff received is from her. Amazing how this guys gets all his thoughts confirmed...

Behind the scenes work is now beginning, and it may even alter the schedule and lifestyle of one member of the support team, and possibly myself. ( IE I will have to stop masturbating to Anal Nation - Brazil and take a road trip ... ) Perhaps he and Artic will go to Brazil and the final confrontation may be at hand...


I luv this part in his updated missive ->Another tidbit of "damning evidence" also emerged one morning when I was in the mood to replay parts of "Brazilian Island II." During her encounter with her partner, I noticed Claudia was wearing a tiny piece of jewelry on her nose. It was barely decernable and it had escaped my attention on previous viewings. One night at the club, Bianca and I were conversing at the bar. I was standing right next to her and I noticed that on that evening she was also wearing a tiny piece of jewelry on nose. It may not have been located on the same side of her nose that Claudia used on the day of her scene. But it was there and I clearly remember it.

Wow 2 chicks have a nose peircing alert the media... pretty uncommon in the adult entertainment industry... I like how he calls it "damning evidence"...

Anyway ... more good stuff Jeff!!!!

Phil-W
10-06-2007, 04:31 AM
Behind the scenes work is now beginning, and it may even alter the schedule and lifestyle of one member of the support team, and possibly myself.

Happy thought.

Perhaps this guy's support team is the doctors in a mental hosital trying to convince him he's delusional.

Maybe Yoda could e-mail Jeff to tell him that Biancia's real name used to be Josephine, and if he was Napoleon in an earlier life, they'll be very happy together.

Phil. }:D

yoda57us
10-06-2007, 05:08 AM
Perhaps this guy's support team is the doctors in a mental hosital trying to convince him he's delusional.

I think that's part of the problem. Massachusetts keeps closing all of it's state funded mental institutions. Jeff obviously can't afford private psychiatric care since he is spending all of his money on the search for his sweet dove.

Of course, in this case, the best medication would have been a trip to Providence and a couple of full-contact Brazilian Lap Dances. If idiot Jeff had taken my advice three years ago he'd be on his 7th or 8th Brazilian fav by now and happily in lust with a variety of women he can never have...

Richard_Head
10-06-2007, 07:59 AM
He's becoming a bigger douche bag every day.


A short time later, I sent a copy of the message, along with my translation and response, to my support network. I have the absolute best support network on the planet and you are about to see why.

The response was immediate and demonstrative. A close friend of this effort replied explaining that he has received training specifically in how to detect when someone is lying through their written words. In either language, he told me that beyond any doubt, the person who actually wrote this message is LYING. Furthermore, the email had a US west coast time stamp and was routed via the San Francisco hub, which is not the usual manner in which email messages from Brazil get routed to the United States. So he was even suspicious as to whether Claudia actually wrote and sent the message. I then received a reply from a coworker at one of my jobs who is somewhat of an expert in tattoos and - let's say - also has her share of them. She reminded me that no two tattoos are ever the same and if I recognize her tattoo, there is only one person she could possibly be. A third friend later told me that she was suspicious of the message and sensed that something was wrong with it. She attributed her feelings to "a woman's intuition."Yes, that is quite the support team you've got working for you Jeff :loco:.


So, in light of these developments, what are my current feelings toward Claudia? Amazingly, over the past week, great fondness and love, informed by a very quiet, wordless "understanding" of what's going on here. OMG, leave the poor girl alone already.

Katrine
10-06-2007, 01:06 PM
So what's going on here? Is it the CIA again?

DB Cooper
10-07-2007, 07:19 AM
This is much too complex for the CIA. Only the Illuminati could be so devious. Someone must warn Jeff

mr_punk
10-07-2007, 01:49 PM
Yes, that is quite the support team you've got working for you Jeffa human lie detector/postal worker, tattoo art expert and a half-assed psychic. it's reads like a Super Friends episode on acid, "Wonder Twin powers, activate!".

Lapaholic
10-09-2007, 09:21 PM
BTW - i have been googling like crazy trying to find any info on the possibilty of detecting lies in someone's writing and I cant find a thing. You would think if someone is an expert that there would be something on the internet... You know a Professional Association, a book ... something. All I found was a small story on how Cornell was trying to detect lies in written form esp emails. THey were thinking that use of the passive voice and other writing tics mite enable a program or human to detect a lie in an email for example ... But they were researching the notion - not saying it was possible. Of course, using passive voice is also the sign of a bad writer - so go figure ...

This is leading me to the conclusion that Jeff's Support Network (JSN) mite just be imaginary ... who da thunk it??

Katrine
10-09-2007, 10:08 PM
I've busted a few crazy stripperweb trolls by figuring out who they really were through writing patterns. But I was also dead wrong on some too. Maybe the email psychic is ME and he's channeling my powers through astral projection?

Lapaholic
10-10-2007, 05:25 PM
^^^ Guess I better watch what I say ... er.. write ...

yoda57us
10-10-2007, 05:48 PM
This is leading me to the conclusion that Jeff's Support Network (JSN) mite just be imaginary ... who da thunk it??

Not imaginary, just a bunch of PL's with no life choosing to inhabit the internet like Jeff does. People like this thrive on each others fears and foolish insecurities. Jeff has spent over three years putting up hand bills, buying newspaper ads and maintaining his website. Crackpots attract other crackpots...

Phil-W
10-10-2007, 07:44 PM
BTW - i have been googling like crazy trying to find any info on the possibilty of detecting lies in someone's writing and I cant find a thing.

At the risk of stating the obvious, you could detect inconsistancies or incorrect assertions in a e-mail and deduce that someone was lying. However, if there were no verifiable statements that could be checked, it would be very difficult.

We tend to deduce if someone's lying through body language, tone of voice etc. We can do this either by meeting the individual in person, or via television (i.e. watching a politician giving a speech).

There have also been trials using (for example) computer programs to analyse for stress levels in telephone conversations to detect possible lies. However, with the present state of the art, this technology merely triggers a request for a face to face interview to follow up on the indication of a possible lie.

The probability that someone could tell if someone was lying in a short e-mail without verifiable facts seems to me to be pretty low. There's just not enough information on the person at the moment of writing to alow a judgement to be made.

Phil.

sander8son
11-03-2007, 08:50 AM
God-damn it Jeff, its been a month now. I need an update! Did you go to Brazil yet? You know what sucks about this whole thing is... we'll never see a conclusion. If he goes to Brazil and kills her, he'll either get arrested or killed himself. After which, there will be nobody around to update his page. And lets just say he somehow gets away with it, as dumb as he is, I don't see him writing about it on his page.

Now, lets say he goes there and she has some goons kill him, again, there will be nobody to update his page. Its tragic really.

The only way... THE ONLY WAY, we can ever know the true story is if Yoda or Kat(or both) travels to Brazil with him so they can report back to us.

Yoda/Kat, PLEASE, I'm begging you, convince Jeff to bring you along.

Katrine
11-03-2007, 12:36 PM
The only way... THE ONLY WAY, we can ever know the true story is if Yoda or Kat(or both) travels to Brazil with him so they can report back to us.

Yoda/Kat, PLEASE, I'm begging you, convince Jeff to bring you along.

I'm so fucking there! I was supposed to be in a wedding in Rio a few years ago, but it was during my first week in business school and at a new job. It also happened to be the week of 9-11 oddly enough, I might have gotten stuck in Rio for a while. Woe is me! :P

I'd be so down with seeing some hot garotas. And of course, solemnly accomplishing our mission you have sent us upon Sandy. 8)

yoda57us
11-03-2007, 06:26 PM
I'm so fucking there! I was supposed to be in a wedding in Rio a few years ago, but it was during my first week in business school and at a new job. It also happened to be the week of 9-11 oddly enough, I might have gotten stuck in Rio for a while. Woe is me! :P

I'd be so down with seeing some hot garotas. And of course, solemnly accomplishing our mission you have sent us upon Sandy. 8)

Lol, my now-retired ATF was visiting home when 911 happened and she WAS stuck down there for a while...

Seriously I've pretty much moved on to Asian women but for a chance to go on a garota road trip with Kat I could see going Brazilian again...}:D